I’m as mad about those people using the church for greed and all other evil. As a kid we left a church because the pastor was sleeping around and involved with drugs. We found a great one after that. Do you still believe or totally close off to going to church again?
Personally, I don't bother with organized religions. Keyword: organized. Growing older, I can find some truths in parts of scripture and I can apply it to my day to day. But going to a proscribed church only ever reminds me of how faith and belief has become an utterly utilitarian force for self-serving interests instead of the feeling and emotion that gives one purpose.
That's what people in general should do. Take some bits and pieces of advice and apply it in your life not worship a god just to be a decent person. But I think for some people, that's just an impossible task.
Think about how many people you know who are incapable of self-analysis.
They literally can't do what you are suggesting. They require social pressure and simple, easy lessons to keep them from turning into the socialist rank and file or whatever the degenerate trend of the day.
Think about how many people you know who are incapable of self-analysis.
They literally can't do what you are suggesting. They require social pressure and simple, easy lessons to keep them from turning into the socialist rank and file or whatever the degenerate trend of the day.
That's the problem with normies in general. The fact that they can get easily mislead into taking jabs that they shouldn't despite the fact there are information everywhere that it's not recommended. These are the types that should just probably go back to being religious. People like us can easily be decent without relying on religion.
That's no excuse. The fact that we've trained our society to have a slave mentality means that our objective should be to help them free themselves, not "find a new master".
Basically all of the Mega Churches are scams, most of the zealots were idiots and grifters, the entire "pray the gay away" movement was a fraud, and now we've got pastors responding to the stupidity of the Evangelist movement by becoming card-carrying progressives. The Anglican Church might as well be the Church of Satan at this point, which might actually be less ridiculous and degenerate.
The only solution I've seen from the degeneration of Christendom is to embrace Catholicism. You know, where the Pope is a literal Communist acolyte following Liberation Theology, and is the reference to "The Cathedral" we talk about, and whom invented the concept of Social Justice in the first place.
I'm with... FCD... on this, part of the problem here is how organized religion behaves. We need more local preachers standing up against this shit, and people learning valuable lessons of individual responsibility from the Bible, rather than collectivist apologetics.
The only solution I've seen from the degeneration of Christendom is to embrace Catholicism.
I know I might be biased on this point due to the way I lean, but its part of the whole point of Protestantism, and I find it strange that so many [for want of a better phrase] "neo-evangelicals" reject it in favor of Catholicism. They point to the fact that a lot of denominations of Protestants are just as, if not more, pozzed and in the grip of Liberation Theology than the Catholics, but that kind of misses the point.
At its most basic level, Protestantism says "When all else fails, you are your own church." Its why there are like five-hundred different Protestant faiths: "I dont like this denomination. I am going to go make my own! With blackjack and hookers! Wait..."
I have seen some stats that the average American Non-Religious individual is still more religious than most European Christians, in that they pray more often and go to church more often, they just dont have a defined church. Which tells me that the issue is not that Americans are becoming less religious. They just dont have a church they feel meets their needs. Which is probably what will spawn the 4th Great Awakening that gets brought up from time to time (since similar issues caused the 3rd)
Well I do believe the Bible condemns homosexuality amongst thousands of other things. My grandfather was always suspicious of churches that had a massive population. But I agree about studying the word. I love my church but it’s not the church that offers salvation. It’s Christ. But the progressive Christian movement is dangerous because they seem to want to conform to the world.
I think the solution mostly revolves around Americans bankrupting bad churches by not attending, and going to churches and donating to them when they do good work for the community.
Exactly. I have no problem donating to my church or volunteering because they’ve shown me they actually help. But you are right. Not all churches do. I’ve seen the bad side as well
I’m as mad about those people using the church for greed and all other evil. As a kid we left a church because the pastor was sleeping around and involved with drugs. We found a great one after that. Do you still believe or totally close off to going to church again?
Personally, I don't bother with organized religions. Keyword: organized. Growing older, I can find some truths in parts of scripture and I can apply it to my day to day. But going to a proscribed church only ever reminds me of how faith and belief has become an utterly utilitarian force for self-serving interests instead of the feeling and emotion that gives one purpose.
That's what people in general should do. Take some bits and pieces of advice and apply it in your life not worship a god just to be a decent person. But I think for some people, that's just an impossible task.
Think about how many people you know who are incapable of self-analysis.
They literally can't do what you are suggesting. They require social pressure and simple, easy lessons to keep them from turning into the socialist rank and file or whatever the degenerate trend of the day.
Thanks public education!
That's the problem with normies in general. The fact that they can get easily mislead into taking jabs that they shouldn't despite the fact there are information everywhere that it's not recommended. These are the types that should just probably go back to being religious. People like us can easily be decent without relying on religion.
That's no excuse. The fact that we've trained our society to have a slave mentality means that our objective should be to help them free themselves, not "find a new master".
If there’s bits worth paying attention to, it all is. And what it says is that a church was established.
I can respect that.
The spirit of the Reformation carries on.
Honestly, how many others were doing it?
Basically all of the Mega Churches are scams, most of the zealots were idiots and grifters, the entire "pray the gay away" movement was a fraud, and now we've got pastors responding to the stupidity of the Evangelist movement by becoming card-carrying progressives. The Anglican Church might as well be the Church of Satan at this point, which might actually be less ridiculous and degenerate.
The only solution I've seen from the degeneration of Christendom is to embrace Catholicism. You know, where the Pope is a literal Communist acolyte following Liberation Theology, and is the reference to "The Cathedral" we talk about, and whom invented the concept of Social Justice in the first place.
I'm with... FCD... on this, part of the problem here is how organized religion behaves. We need more local preachers standing up against this shit, and people learning valuable lessons of individual responsibility from the Bible, rather than collectivist apologetics.
I know I might be biased on this point due to the way I lean, but its part of the whole point of Protestantism, and I find it strange that so many [for want of a better phrase] "neo-evangelicals" reject it in favor of Catholicism. They point to the fact that a lot of denominations of Protestants are just as, if not more, pozzed and in the grip of Liberation Theology than the Catholics, but that kind of misses the point.
At its most basic level, Protestantism says "When all else fails, you are your own church." Its why there are like five-hundred different Protestant faiths: "I dont like this denomination. I am going to go make my own! With blackjack and hookers! Wait..."
I have seen some stats that the average American Non-Religious individual is still more religious than most European Christians, in that they pray more often and go to church more often, they just dont have a defined church. Which tells me that the issue is not that Americans are becoming less religious. They just dont have a church they feel meets their needs. Which is probably what will spawn the 4th Great Awakening that gets brought up from time to time (since similar issues caused the 3rd)
Well I do believe the Bible condemns homosexuality amongst thousands of other things. My grandfather was always suspicious of churches that had a massive population. But I agree about studying the word. I love my church but it’s not the church that offers salvation. It’s Christ. But the progressive Christian movement is dangerous because they seem to want to conform to the world.
I think the solution mostly revolves around Americans bankrupting bad churches by not attending, and going to churches and donating to them when they do good work for the community.
Exactly. I have no problem donating to my church or volunteering because they’ve shown me they actually help. But you are right. Not all churches do. I’ve seen the bad side as well