Well, maybe if they didn't alienate everyone by allowing charlatans to run megachurches that scammed old ladies out of their pensions with faith healing. You know, when they're not having sex with male escorts while zonked out on meth. Oh, but he just bought the meth a single time with the intention of throwing it away. How did he know where to score some crystal? Stop asking question! Also, it's totally normal to get a "massage" from a gay escort that's zonked out on meth in a hotel room.
I fully expect the Christcucks to get mad at me for pointing out why people like me became disillusioned with the faith instead of being mad at the people who do the thing that pushed people away in the first place.
I’m as mad about those people using the church for greed and all other evil. As a kid we left a church because the pastor was sleeping around and involved with drugs. We found a great one after that. Do you still believe or totally close off to going to church again?
Personally, I don't bother with organized religions. Keyword: organized. Growing older, I can find some truths in parts of scripture and I can apply it to my day to day. But going to a proscribed church only ever reminds me of how faith and belief has become an utterly utilitarian force for self-serving interests instead of the feeling and emotion that gives one purpose.
That's what people in general should do. Take some bits and pieces of advice and apply it in your life not worship a god just to be a decent person. But I think for some people, that's just an impossible task.
Think about how many people you know who are incapable of self-analysis.
They literally can't do what you are suggesting. They require social pressure and simple, easy lessons to keep them from turning into the socialist rank and file or whatever the degenerate trend of the day.
Basically all of the Mega Churches are scams, most of the zealots were idiots and grifters, the entire "pray the gay away" movement was a fraud, and now we've got pastors responding to the stupidity of the Evangelist movement by becoming card-carrying progressives. The Anglican Church might as well be the Church of Satan at this point, which might actually be less ridiculous and degenerate.
The only solution I've seen from the degeneration of Christendom is to embrace Catholicism. You know, where the Pope is a literal Communist acolyte following Liberation Theology, and is the reference to "The Cathedral" we talk about, and whom invented the concept of Social Justice in the first place.
I'm with... FCD... on this, part of the problem here is how organized religion behaves. We need more local preachers standing up against this shit, and people learning valuable lessons of individual responsibility from the Bible, rather than collectivist apologetics.
The only solution I've seen from the degeneration of Christendom is to embrace Catholicism.
I know I might be biased on this point due to the way I lean, but its part of the whole point of Protestantism, and I find it strange that so many [for want of a better phrase] "neo-evangelicals" reject it in favor of Catholicism. They point to the fact that a lot of denominations of Protestants are just as, if not more, pozzed and in the grip of Liberation Theology than the Catholics, but that kind of misses the point.
At its most basic level, Protestantism says "When all else fails, you are your own church." Its why there are like five-hundred different Protestant faiths: "I dont like this denomination. I am going to go make my own! With blackjack and hookers! Wait..."
I have seen some stats that the average American Non-Religious individual is still more religious than most European Christians, in that they pray more often and go to church more often, they just dont have a defined church. Which tells me that the issue is not that Americans are becoming less religious. They just dont have a church they feel meets their needs. Which is probably what will spawn the 4th Great Awakening that gets brought up from time to time (since similar issues caused the 3rd)
Well I do believe the Bible condemns homosexuality amongst thousands of other things. My grandfather was always suspicious of churches that had a massive population. But I agree about studying the word. I love my church but it’s not the church that offers salvation. It’s Christ. But the progressive Christian movement is dangerous because they seem to want to conform to the world.
I think the solution mostly revolves around Americans bankrupting bad churches by not attending, and going to churches and donating to them when they do good work for the community.
But of course, you opening with acting like a massive asshole by lumping everyone in the faith in with the absolute worst people in their group is totally okay.
Really jogs the noggin' why no one even wants to reason with you to get you to join back.
They won't engage with you to change your mind, they want you to stay right where you are. Children who can't differentiate between imaginary and reality are much easier to prosletyse to anyway. Besides the godboys need people like you on the outside that they can point at and feel holier than and morally superior to. Its all part of the christcuck cope.
It really sounds like you hate the organization, and then get mad at everyone involved in the overall faith. As if every Christian in the country held a vote about any of these things, or that even a majority of them approved of it once they found out.
Well, maybe if they didn't alienate everyone by allowing charlatans to run megachurches that scammed old ladies out of their pensions with faith healing. You know, when they're not having sex with male escorts while zonked out on meth. Oh, but he just bought the meth a single time with the intention of throwing it away. How did he know where to score some crystal? Stop asking question! Also, it's totally normal to get a "massage" from a gay escort that's zonked out on meth in a hotel room.
Of course, the only thing that changes with them is they moved onto young girls. Or maybe not.
I fully expect the Christcucks to get mad at me for pointing out why people like me became disillusioned with the faith instead of being mad at the people who do the thing that pushed people away in the first place.
I’m as mad about those people using the church for greed and all other evil. As a kid we left a church because the pastor was sleeping around and involved with drugs. We found a great one after that. Do you still believe or totally close off to going to church again?
Personally, I don't bother with organized religions. Keyword: organized. Growing older, I can find some truths in parts of scripture and I can apply it to my day to day. But going to a proscribed church only ever reminds me of how faith and belief has become an utterly utilitarian force for self-serving interests instead of the feeling and emotion that gives one purpose.
That's what people in general should do. Take some bits and pieces of advice and apply it in your life not worship a god just to be a decent person. But I think for some people, that's just an impossible task.
Think about how many people you know who are incapable of self-analysis.
They literally can't do what you are suggesting. They require social pressure and simple, easy lessons to keep them from turning into the socialist rank and file or whatever the degenerate trend of the day.
If there’s bits worth paying attention to, it all is. And what it says is that a church was established.
I can respect that.
The spirit of the Reformation carries on.
Honestly, how many others were doing it?
Basically all of the Mega Churches are scams, most of the zealots were idiots and grifters, the entire "pray the gay away" movement was a fraud, and now we've got pastors responding to the stupidity of the Evangelist movement by becoming card-carrying progressives. The Anglican Church might as well be the Church of Satan at this point, which might actually be less ridiculous and degenerate.
The only solution I've seen from the degeneration of Christendom is to embrace Catholicism. You know, where the Pope is a literal Communist acolyte following Liberation Theology, and is the reference to "The Cathedral" we talk about, and whom invented the concept of Social Justice in the first place.
I'm with... FCD... on this, part of the problem here is how organized religion behaves. We need more local preachers standing up against this shit, and people learning valuable lessons of individual responsibility from the Bible, rather than collectivist apologetics.
I know I might be biased on this point due to the way I lean, but its part of the whole point of Protestantism, and I find it strange that so many [for want of a better phrase] "neo-evangelicals" reject it in favor of Catholicism. They point to the fact that a lot of denominations of Protestants are just as, if not more, pozzed and in the grip of Liberation Theology than the Catholics, but that kind of misses the point.
At its most basic level, Protestantism says "When all else fails, you are your own church." Its why there are like five-hundred different Protestant faiths: "I dont like this denomination. I am going to go make my own! With blackjack and hookers! Wait..."
I have seen some stats that the average American Non-Religious individual is still more religious than most European Christians, in that they pray more often and go to church more often, they just dont have a defined church. Which tells me that the issue is not that Americans are becoming less religious. They just dont have a church they feel meets their needs. Which is probably what will spawn the 4th Great Awakening that gets brought up from time to time (since similar issues caused the 3rd)
Well I do believe the Bible condemns homosexuality amongst thousands of other things. My grandfather was always suspicious of churches that had a massive population. But I agree about studying the word. I love my church but it’s not the church that offers salvation. It’s Christ. But the progressive Christian movement is dangerous because they seem to want to conform to the world.
I think the solution mostly revolves around Americans bankrupting bad churches by not attending, and going to churches and donating to them when they do good work for the community.
"Maybe if I ask like a massive asshole towards this guy struggling to find reason with faith, that will change his mind!"
Nice job proving my point.
But of course, you opening with acting like a massive asshole by lumping everyone in the faith in with the absolute worst people in their group is totally okay.
Really jogs the noggin' why no one even wants to reason with you to get you to join back.
They won't engage with you to change your mind, they want you to stay right where you are. Children who can't differentiate between imaginary and reality are much easier to prosletyse to anyway. Besides the godboys need people like you on the outside that they can point at and feel holier than and morally superior to. Its all part of the christcuck cope.
It really sounds like you hate the organization, and then get mad at everyone involved in the overall faith. As if every Christian in the country held a vote about any of these things, or that even a majority of them approved of it once they found out.
"There's sin and hypocrisy in the world therefore Christianity is false" isn't much of a position.
Wait whose fault is it again that charlatans are "allowed" to run a church?