Exactly, it's just hate speech against whites and men that's based of regressive leftist ideology.
The term "incel" is generally used to refer to members of the incel community, though it's use against men in general who piss off feminists and regressive leftists for whatever reason is misandric hate speech.
Eh, it's very rare that I see the term used to refer specifically to one of the actual identifiable communities that exist (say, one of the forums), or even someone who would agree with the description of themselves as an incel. 99% of the time it's just an insult against a man.
True, most usages these days are just sexist hate speech by gender crits, regressive leftists, and similar extremists.
Most people who cannot get laid despite trying would use the term "involuntarily celibate" to disambiguate themselves from the community.
Extra fun fact: while the incel community is seperate from all other groups that hate regressive leftists and claming otherwise is considered offensive, the femcels are actually part of the gendercrit sphere. The incel community and the femcels do not get along as the incel community despises them for not trying harder by lowering their standards, while the femcels consider them all udesireable shitheads.
Incels have a saying: JBW. It stands for "just be White." The vast majority of incels are diverse (and disproportionately black, Asian, or mixed race). This is just more anti-White garbage being broadcast by jewish media.
Asian losers have a HUGE hard on for blaming everything for not being white.
I mean, considering the average Asian cock is the smallest in the world, it makes sense, especially given their whores hate the small peen and fawn over white men for being big having big(normal) cocks.
The dating site Ok Cupid used to have a blog where they compiled data and talked about it and insights. It was a good read.
One article showed the data that the least attractive female demographic to all men are black women, the least attractive male demographic to all women are asian men.
Another blog article showed that for men over 23 years old, making more than $100K was the most attractive to women. I remember this because the blog post said "basically if you are over 23 and not making $100K, go die in a fire".
Another post showed men being over 6 ft was more attractive to women.... etc, etc. As if that is news to anyone, but these younger generations dont believe their eyes unless its a data back up per reviewed paper.
And yet another proved that famous "80/20 rule", where women rated 80% of men less than average attractiveness while men rated women on a bell curve.
These of course were before the internet forcibly became PC. But you can find it out there.
there is intersectionality, there isnt hard/firm rankings, but aggregate data. Im sure ginger dudes, who are white, rank lower for women than non-ginger white dudes. But where ginger white dudes rank in relation to the other races, who knows.
Another odd dichotomy because female redheads according to OK Cupid blog, get the most attention.
Another odd dichotomy because female redheads according to OK Cupid blog, get the most attention.
Things like this are usually not coincidences. Its usually for the same reason. For example, Asian women are popular for being petit and feminine looking. Asian men are less popular with women for the exact same reason: being smaller and less masculine looking.
No, 'Incel' is not a racial term and the TV propagandizing anti-white racism to you - because of course it is.
This is why you shouldn't watch TV.
Congrats on spotting it, though.
We had a black Incel shooter just last week, although because he's black, the media are instead fixated on where he got the evil black rifle AR-15 from.
Eliott Roger, the supreme gentleman, the king of Incels, was of course, half-asian, and centered his half-asianness as part of what kept him from getting a girlfriend.
So no, 'Incel' is unequivocally not a racial thing and not exclusive to whites.
Half asian men do have it rough. Neither asian women or white women are typically interested. He had resentment for his sister because half asian women are the opposite; literally everyone is interested.
Were you voluntarily watching Chicago P.D.? To answer your question it’s the kid gloves treatment, it’s okay to say a “white neckbeard” can’t get laid, but to say an autistic 5’3 Asian male can’t get laid is racist. It’s societal bullying, they know men of European descent are constantly forced on the defensive so that’s why they are targeted. It also is probably a slighted attempt at more social engineering as “white” men are still the highest desirable mate along with Asian women. The latter might start trending down again soon because the appeal was in their social trends and obesity rates which is slowly normalizing.
3/5ish of the "community" is brown asian and indian, who are justifiably bitter that their phenotype makes them more likely short with less masculine features.
But the feminism-poisoned high-bodycount women running the writers rooms and content desks aren't allowed to express anything negative about browns so they rail against whites who have been an acceptable target for the last half century+.
Because as we all know, whether or not women will sleep with a guy is the best way to determine his moral character.
This is a point we should bring up to any dude who struggles with women. Dating is not a meritocracy, and women are awful judges of character. They're really not interested in good men, so rejection says nothing about your character. Anyone who observes the kind of men that women do pick can tell you that.
Obviously we all know that the entire history of "incels" does not begin with a term coined on an obscure blog on the early internet. It just somehow took over from "love shy". There have always been low-value men. The only thing that changes is the cultural context.
The word "feminism" was coined by a Frenchman who believed in state-sanctioned girlfriends, I always find that an amusing little factoid.
Because as we all know, whether or not women will sleep with a guy is the best way to determine his moral character.
i never understood that there is a general social sentiment that women are a good litmus test of a mans moral character. Women will sleep with a 130lb drugged out lead guitarist in a band who doesnt have a cent to his name and hasnt washed his hair in a week. Women will make a baby with a drug dealing thug who lives with his mother.
PS: there was a thread on a body building form where a guy posted on a dating site a picture of an attractive man with a bio saying he was a 3 time convicted child molester and women didnt care, he still go their numbers and posted their conversations. Another one posted an attractive man with an obvious swastika tat, same outcome.
i never understood that there is a general social sentiment that women are a good litmus test of a mans moral character. Women will sleep with a 130lb drugged out lead guitarist in a band who doesnt have a cent to his name and hasnt washed his hair in a week. Women will make a baby with a drug dealing thug who lives with his mother.
PS: there was a thread on a body building form where a guy posted on a dating site a picture of an attractive man with a bio saying he was a 3 time convicted child molester and women didnt care, he still go their numbers and posted their conversations. Another one posted an attractive man with an obvious swastika tat, same outcome.
I mean, are men any different? You put some single mother THOT with multiple kids, no job, begging for money, but with big tits hanging out there and simps are going to be all over her.
People are nasty and make shitty decisions when they think with their pussies or dicks. End of story. That's why we need a structured society control our animal side.
women have inherent value for being able to create life, up until about 35 they are seen as valuable for that alone, and they have exploited it big time.
But I wasnt talking about either sexes value, but who are the arbiters of judging moral character, and its absolutely not women despite the social sentiment for it.
If incels were honest with themselves, they'd admit what they really want is female validation.
Anyone with $200 in his pocket can get sex, if the celibacy was really the issue. If hiring a prostitute sounds gross, which I think it is, it's an admission that they really want someone who wants to be with them of her own accord, which equals validation.
But what these men need to understand is that it's not a validation at all, or at least not a validation worth anything, like you allude to.
60 seconds of sticky friction and empty words of affection, paid in cash or in trade for goods, actually is pretty disposable compared to all the experiences the world has to offer.
Now, men who want to start a family should focus on those experiences, because that not only also attracts women but the right kind of women, and help provide the wisdom to be a better father anyway.
The term used to be called "unrequited love", and it goes back much further than the internet. It has existed for all of human history. It is where a person experiences non-openly reciprocated love of a another. Typically between a young man and a young woman where the man experiences it, but it can go the other way too and it does. It used to be considered a sweet innocent occurrence between a young people because they are new to relationships. Even in the media, it was the driver of a lot of Rom-Coms, teen TV shows, coming of age shows/movies. It was never seen as a problem IRL or in media, but something that just happens with inexperienced and/or young people figuring out life.
But for whatever reason, thanks to feminism and virality of the internet it is now seen as a problem. I think a media amplified problem that isnt as severe or a problem at all, but the internet and media never lies right?
Remember Ellen Pao, the interim Reddit CEO tweeted that "incels are a problem" and asked the government "what are you going to do about it?" Probably after Elliot Rodger did his thing.
It’s the feminization of men. Single moms are the largest showcase of this, they raise feminine men who believe emotional outbursts and behaving hysterically are the only way to get attention. The tattoo/ piercing/ gender identity/ fetish obsession are all symptoms of this stupidity, we have allowed society to worship women and in turn hysterical emotionality for far too long.
When used by MSM, the blue-checks, AWFLs, and what have you it's just 2020s "neckbeard"/"virgin" with extra MISOGYNY courtesy of the supreme gentleman, Elliot Roger.
Funnily enough, minority groups are disproportionately represented among the self-described incel community.
Do people not think any race can be incels? Or is the suggestion that white men are so ugly they are the only group having trouble getting laid?
White men are the current group being used by Western intelligentsia as a bogeyman, so all of society's sins are ascribed to them, regardless of basis in actual fact.
It's basically another thing they tried to use to denigrate white males, it backfired like most of the shit they do as more men are comfortable just fending for themselves than women so we have so many articles of "why is there no men to date? I'm still unmarried and hitting 40!"
Definitely not. I feel like literally every dangerous incel in history has been ethnic haven’t they? The Santa Barbara dude, the Canadian, that dude from just last week.
The only exception I can think of is that dude from Atlanta or something that went after the massage parlors but wasn’t his issue that he was partaking?
The rub and tug shooter doesn't really belong in the "incel mass shooter" category. He was frequenting AMPs and blamed the women for his sex addiction. The media painted it as a "racist white male incel" situation because they're dishonest hacks. The reality of the situation was quite different.
That's the point that conveniently gets left out of the feminists' "entitled to sex" narrative. Companionship is just as if not more important than sex to those guys. It's a very blue pilled way of thinking considering what those "relationships" look like in reality, but it's dishonest to say that they only see women as sex objects.
InCel is plain Involuntary Celibate, with a contextual eye toward "the sexual revolution" and "free love"; withal its titular egalitarian promise. Simping actually resulted, and Incels were left out in the subsequent pidgeon-hole process of class-oriented polyamory-IRL. Polygamy is naturally inequitable, you see*; and Hypergamy only permits of monkey-branching among ever-higher-status Chads.
It has nothing to do with race+, but leftism is naturally racist at large, due to CRT... so leftists project their hate onto the subject.
* it leaves a sex-starved class of males that are historically spent in wars...
+ except in the sexual selection itself, which is highly personal and necessarily familial
Well thats bullshit. Arguably the most infamous incel is Elliot Rodgers who was a hapa ( mixed white - asian). Any fuckin person these days could struggle to form romantic relationships. I imagine women can be in the same boat but they just dont get hit with incel label. Instead incel women are called hambeasts or roasties.
AsianMasculinity is one of the oldest Reddit "incel" subs. I heard about it before incel as a buzzword even took off.
And black incels aren't uncommon in the slightest either. The "where my hug at" guy is a well known person even in the leftist shithole of Black People Twitter.
The "white" thing is just a leftist pejorative to demonize the incels, but ironically there have been many polls across various incel boards showing that its a very mixed community consisting of mostly foreign men in western developed countries. There is even a term in their community called "JBW" aka "Just Be White" where its minority men resentful about how white incels at least have the option to date minority women who find them exotic, whereas the ethnic incels have no options other than going back home.
Incels are basically a by-product of modern feminist ideology, but feminism can never be wrong in their eyes, so they shift the blame to some other group as a rationalization.
Incels bad
White people bad
Therefore incels white
I promise you, this is the extent of the Chicago P.D. writers' thinking on this matter
Exactly, it's just hate speech against whites and men that's based of regressive leftist ideology.
The term "incel" is generally used to refer to members of the incel community, though it's use against men in general who piss off feminists and regressive leftists for whatever reason is misandric hate speech.
Eh, it's very rare that I see the term used to refer specifically to one of the actual identifiable communities that exist (say, one of the forums), or even someone who would agree with the description of themselves as an incel. 99% of the time it's just an insult against a man.
It’s the new “virgin loser”.
True, most usages these days are just sexist hate speech by gender crits, regressive leftists, and similar extremists.
Most people who cannot get laid despite trying would use the term "involuntarily celibate" to disambiguate themselves from the community.
Extra fun fact: while the incel community is seperate from all other groups that hate regressive leftists and claming otherwise is considered offensive, the femcels are actually part of the gendercrit sphere. The incel community and the femcels do not get along as the incel community despises them for not trying harder by lowering their standards, while the femcels consider them all udesireable shitheads.
thats the extent of people social understanding of it, not just in media
Incels have a saying: JBW. It stands for "just be White." The vast majority of incels are diverse (and disproportionately black, Asian, or mixed race). This is just more anti-White garbage being broadcast by jewish media.
Asian losers have a HUGE hard on for blaming everything for not being white.
I mean, considering the average Asian cock is the smallest in the world, it makes sense, especially given their whores hate the small peen and fawn over white men for being big having big(normal) cocks.
The dating site Ok Cupid used to have a blog where they compiled data and talked about it and insights. It was a good read.
One article showed the data that the least attractive female demographic to all men are black women, the least attractive male demographic to all women are asian men.
Another blog article showed that for men over 23 years old, making more than $100K was the most attractive to women. I remember this because the blog post said "basically if you are over 23 and not making $100K, go die in a fire".
Another post showed men being over 6 ft was more attractive to women.... etc, etc. As if that is news to anyone, but these younger generations dont believe their eyes unless its a data back up per reviewed paper.
And yet another proved that famous "80/20 rule", where women rated 80% of men less than average attractiveness while men rated women on a bell curve.
These of course were before the internet forcibly became PC. But you can find it out there.
If the data was more extensive, I wonder if the least popular category of men for women would have been gingers.
there is intersectionality, there isnt hard/firm rankings, but aggregate data. Im sure ginger dudes, who are white, rank lower for women than non-ginger white dudes. But where ginger white dudes rank in relation to the other races, who knows.
Another odd dichotomy because female redheads according to OK Cupid blog, get the most attention.
Things like this are usually not coincidences. Its usually for the same reason. For example, Asian women are popular for being petit and feminine looking. Asian men are less popular with women for the exact same reason: being smaller and less masculine looking.
thats exactly the reasons why, its sad that its not common knowledge.
The term is called "neoteny" which is "youthful" traits, desirable in women, not desirable in men. Asians are the most neotenous.
women off all races do prefer white ben most and asian men least
No, 'Incel' is not a racial term and the TV propagandizing anti-white racism to you - because of course it is.
This is why you shouldn't watch TV.
Congrats on spotting it, though.
We had a black Incel shooter just last week, although because he's black, the media are instead fixated on where he got the evil black rifle AR-15 from.
Eliott Roger, the supreme gentleman, the king of Incels, was of course, half-asian, and centered his half-asianness as part of what kept him from getting a girlfriend.
So no, 'Incel' is unequivocally not a racial thing and not exclusive to whites.
Half asian men do have it rough. Neither asian women or white women are typically interested. He had resentment for his sister because half asian women are the opposite; literally everyone is interested.
Can confirm. I know a few really hot half Asian women and some of them aren't even half white. Asians have good genes I guess
Were you voluntarily watching Chicago P.D.? To answer your question it’s the kid gloves treatment, it’s okay to say a “white neckbeard” can’t get laid, but to say an autistic 5’3 Asian male can’t get laid is racist. It’s societal bullying, they know men of European descent are constantly forced on the defensive so that’s why they are targeted. It also is probably a slighted attempt at more social engineering as “white” men are still the highest desirable mate along with Asian women. The latter might start trending down again soon because the appeal was in their social trends and obesity rates which is slowly normalizing.
3/5ish of the "community" is brown asian and indian, who are justifiably bitter that their phenotype makes them more likely short with less masculine features.
But the feminism-poisoned high-bodycount women running the writers rooms and content desks aren't allowed to express anything negative about browns so they rail against whites who have been an acceptable target for the last half century+.
This is a point we should bring up to any dude who struggles with women. Dating is not a meritocracy, and women are awful judges of character. They're really not interested in good men, so rejection says nothing about your character. Anyone who observes the kind of men that women do pick can tell you that.
I mean a woman married Ted Bundy while he was on death row, kind of says it all.
No it isn't, you couldn't even make it a dozen words into your wall of text before typing something that was wrong.
Look up 'Alana's Involuntary Celibate Blog', that's where it came from.
Obviously we all know that the entire history of "incels" does not begin with a term coined on an obscure blog on the early internet. It just somehow took over from "love shy". There have always been low-value men. The only thing that changes is the cultural context.
The word "feminism" was coined by a Frenchman who believed in state-sanctioned girlfriends, I always find that an amusing little factoid.
i never understood that there is a general social sentiment that women are a good litmus test of a mans moral character. Women will sleep with a 130lb drugged out lead guitarist in a band who doesnt have a cent to his name and hasnt washed his hair in a week. Women will make a baby with a drug dealing thug who lives with his mother.
PS: there was a thread on a body building form where a guy posted on a dating site a picture of an attractive man with a bio saying he was a 3 time convicted child molester and women didnt care, he still go their numbers and posted their conversations. Another one posted an attractive man with an obvious swastika tat, same outcome.
I mean, are men any different? You put some single mother THOT with multiple kids, no job, begging for money, but with big tits hanging out there and simps are going to be all over her.
People are nasty and make shitty decisions when they think with their pussies or dicks. End of story. That's why we need a structured society control our animal side.
true, but no one says your average simp is a good litmus test of a womans moral character. thats the point you missed.
Women are judged for what they are, men are judged for what they have.
women have inherent value for being able to create life, up until about 35 they are seen as valuable for that alone, and they have exploited it big time.
But I wasnt talking about either sexes value, but who are the arbiters of judging moral character, and its absolutely not women despite the social sentiment for it.
Fair enough
If incels were honest with themselves, they'd admit what they really want is female validation.
Anyone with $200 in his pocket can get sex, if the celibacy was really the issue. If hiring a prostitute sounds gross, which I think it is, it's an admission that they really want someone who wants to be with them of her own accord, which equals validation.
But what these men need to understand is that it's not a validation at all, or at least not a validation worth anything, like you allude to.
60 seconds of sticky friction and empty words of affection, paid in cash or in trade for goods, actually is pretty disposable compared to all the experiences the world has to offer.
Now, men who want to start a family should focus on those experiences, because that not only also attracts women but the right kind of women, and help provide the wisdom to be a better father anyway.
Incel was invented by a woman
The term used to be called "unrequited love", and it goes back much further than the internet. It has existed for all of human history. It is where a person experiences non-openly reciprocated love of a another. Typically between a young man and a young woman where the man experiences it, but it can go the other way too and it does. It used to be considered a sweet innocent occurrence between a young people because they are new to relationships. Even in the media, it was the driver of a lot of Rom-Coms, teen TV shows, coming of age shows/movies. It was never seen as a problem IRL or in media, but something that just happens with inexperienced and/or young people figuring out life.
But for whatever reason, thanks to feminism and virality of the internet it is now seen as a problem. I think a media amplified problem that isnt as severe or a problem at all, but the internet and media never lies right?
Remember Ellen Pao, the interim Reddit CEO tweeted that "incels are a problem" and asked the government "what are you going to do about it?" Probably after Elliot Rodger did his thing.
The {media} version of the term is certainly slanted that way - it’s a new version of the “school shooter” narrative.
In both cases, the issue is a societal frustration/castration of manhood, leading to mass mental illness/degeneracy
It’s the feminization of men. Single moms are the largest showcase of this, they raise feminine men who believe emotional outbursts and behaving hysterically are the only way to get attention. The tattoo/ piercing/ gender identity/ fetish obsession are all symptoms of this stupidity, we have allowed society to worship women and in turn hysterical emotionality for far too long.
When used by MSM, the blue-checks, AWFLs, and what have you it's just 2020s "neckbeard"/"virgin" with extra MISOGYNY courtesy of the supreme gentleman, Elliot Roger.
Funnily enough, minority groups are disproportionately represented among the self-described incel community.
White men are the current group being used by Western intelligentsia as a bogeyman, so all of society's sins are ascribed to them, regardless of basis in actual fact.
It's basically another thing they tried to use to denigrate white males, it backfired like most of the shit they do as more men are comfortable just fending for themselves than women so we have so many articles of "why is there no men to date? I'm still unmarried and hitting 40!"
Definitely not. I feel like literally every dangerous incel in history has been ethnic haven’t they? The Santa Barbara dude, the Canadian, that dude from just last week.
The only exception I can think of is that dude from Atlanta or something that went after the massage parlors but wasn’t his issue that he was partaking?
The Atlanta dude, James whats is face? I thought he was jewish.
The rub and tug shooter doesn't really belong in the "incel mass shooter" category. He was frequenting AMPs and blamed the women for his sex addiction. The media painted it as a "racist white male incel" situation because they're dishonest hacks. The reality of the situation was quite different.
If it was about getting their dick wet and nothing else, they'd get an escort and call it a night.
That's the point that conveniently gets left out of the feminists' "entitled to sex" narrative. Companionship is just as if not more important than sex to those guys. It's a very blue pilled way of thinking considering what those "relationships" look like in reality, but it's dishonest to say that they only see women as sex objects.
yeah need sexy in a relationship and not paying for it
Unless you're Chad you're paying for it one way or another.
true but even if we're rich we can get the hottest girls just fat ones at best
The term was usurped years ago, as the first self described incel was a woman. It's now just the 'N word' for white males.
here you go
and no, incels are not only white guys, mostly white guys, or majority white guys.
I’ve seen that episode. I never knew there was a racial component either
The most (in)famous incel was half-Asian. Honorary I guess
InCel is plain Involuntary Celibate, with a contextual eye toward "the sexual revolution" and "free love"; withal its titular egalitarian promise. Simping actually resulted, and Incels were left out in the subsequent pidgeon-hole process of class-oriented polyamory-IRL. Polygamy is naturally inequitable, you see*; and Hypergamy only permits of monkey-branching among ever-higher-status Chads.
It has nothing to do with race+, but leftism is naturally racist at large, due to CRT... so leftists project their hate onto the subject.
* it leaves a sex-starved class of males that are historically spent in wars...
+ except in the sexual selection itself, which is highly personal and necessarily familial
Imagine watching a modern network TV show
Well thats bullshit. Arguably the most infamous incel is Elliot Rodgers who was a hapa ( mixed white - asian). Any fuckin person these days could struggle to form romantic relationships. I imagine women can be in the same boat but they just dont get hit with incel label. Instead incel women are called hambeasts or roasties.
God that is so fucking cringy. It always is when they shoehorn stuff like this into normie TV but this is a pretty bad case.
The last one, I think. Pretty much all of mainstream popular culture’s main purpose is to shit on and denigrate White people, men in particular.
Probably some sour grapes involved as well seeing as White People come out as most desirable in pretty much all interracial dating statistics.
AsianMasculinity is one of the oldest Reddit "incel" subs. I heard about it before incel as a buzzword even took off.
And black incels aren't uncommon in the slightest either. The "where my hug at" guy is a well known person even in the leftist shithole of Black People Twitter.
The "white" thing is just a leftist pejorative to demonize the incels, but ironically there have been many polls across various incel boards showing that its a very mixed community consisting of mostly foreign men in western developed countries. There is even a term in their community called "JBW" aka "Just Be White" where its minority men resentful about how white incels at least have the option to date minority women who find them exotic, whereas the ethnic incels have no options other than going back home.
thats what happens to developmentally stunted adults who are uncritically inundated with pseudo academic propaganda like CRT
Aren’t most incels asian or Indian lmao
Incels are basically a by-product of modern feminist ideology, but feminism can never be wrong in their eyes, so they shift the blame to some other group as a rationalization.