https://ruqqus.com/+Ruqqus/post/dns3/end-of-an-era
They burned down pretty quickly after they bent the knee to the cabal and banned a bunch of guilds that went against the narrative.
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And there you have it.
And nothing was lost.
How can one claim the "incel Nazis" destroyed the site if they're the reason it was solvent to begin with?
Naive christcuck idealism. Completely divorced from modern reality. And nothing of value was lost when they collapsed.
I am pretty sure the real reason was they banned people other than Neo-Nazi's/White Supremacists and the Incel community.
They could have avoided this had they explicitly chosen to ban those groups only along with any other questionable group as long as they were transparent and indicated this properly.
He is the kind of person that will refer to literally everyone he disagrees with or or anyone who doesn't want to conform to his comfy groupthink as an incel or Nazi.
Don't ban the groups, destory the groups by banning users for breaking TOS.
And it can be vague: 'We ban authoritarians.'
because they are shills.
hey if you're going to DDOS a website with a bunch of anti semitic / misogynistic content because you hate freedom of expression, be prepared to be labelled as an incel Nazi. Rightfully so
You post on KiA2, that means you are an Incel Nazi.
Jump off a building communist vermin. Only good commie is a dead commie. Commies arent people
"We didn't actually believe in free speech and were fucking cucks"
I like your version of events a lot better 😉
I'm astonished that was their interpretation of events. They really were retarded.
Its always the interpretation of events.
Rather than take responsibility for not effectively promoting and growing your site, just blame your users for being so toxic it stopped anyone from joining as the reason for stagnant/declining membership. And because "Nazi Incels" are meaningless words, it can apply to literally anyone you want to point to as proof of your claims.
Reddit itself used it very successfully, so clones of course would too.
Women are very talented at being what caused a man's downfall while convincing him to blame anything and everything else. Eventually you start saying stuff like this half believing it and half just knowing that if you name them as the real source of the problem they will hurt you.
If they truly believed in free speech they wouldn't care who used their platform or what they posted (with certain exceptions like CP). That means they don't champion or prioritize free speech, and thus they aren't worthy to run a platform who's entire premise is free speech.
Ruqqus sucked stalins and bernies dick
Low IQ morons. They're like a politician who answers a specific question with random platitudes and buzzwords. If you blame "nazis and incels" for various societal or personal problems, you fall into one of two camps:
You're just dumb. A stupid NPC. You speak passable English and appear as a human but there's no indication of deep thoughts or logic within. Perhaps autistic, smart enough to excel in the technical field but no subtle understanding of your user base, social dynamics, or how to answer a basic question.
You're a virtue signaler. You want to let others know just how woke you are so you answer in SJW code language. Those words carry a lot of connotative baggage in your social groups, but are meaningless to normal outsiders. You are either unaware or don't care that someone who doesn't talk like you hears your answer as "IKR those dumb retard virgins destroyed our site bro, it's a shame but what are you gonna do you can't win with haters bro."
Kind of leaning towards the first option. To destroy their own business so spectacularly doesn't speak to them being the brightest bulbs in the box. But they may be going for the second option to try and salvage their personal reputations with the Silicon Valley elites.
I think it's more likely they get attacked and threatened and repeating the lie is the act of contrivance to avoid being beaten further by the ones abusing them.
"We said we wanted a free speech platform and accidentally made one. Our bad."
We need to go back to random Internet forums. No more centralized bullshit.
I was just thinking today. Is IRC still a thing?
Yes, it's pretty easy to set up a private server on your computer, RPI, or a VPS. Or just start a channel on Efnet, Undernet, or Freenode. They don't give a shit what you talk about as far as I know.
Element based on the Matrix protocol is a more modern alternative. Many of the January 6th protestors planned and coordinated there. (and no, nobody was planning an 'insurrection' even on private channels)
Don't use freenode, everyone migrated to https://libera.chat/
Decentralized chatrooms exist. The problem is that a critical mass of people don't want to download the client.
Regular webservers don't cost that much to run, either. An interested community can easily fund them on donations and volunteered time.
IRC... OMG. Going back to the 1990s/early 2000s. What a time to be alive!
Answer: https://matrix.org/
That's what? Two alternatives dead? Voat and now Ruqqus? Is saidit around still?
Saidit was DoA. One of the sitewide rules was to follow the "Pyramid of Debate", which was the most nebulous of rules. It was basically designed from the start to allow tranny jannies to corrupt the site.
That's fucking retarded. Nothing is more open to abuse than making a rule policing how people can discuss. Even Faggit doesn't do that (yet).
I remember the lifeboat thread back on reddit.
The dude arguing in favor of Saidit said some of the dumbest and most ridiculous shit in order to brush off just how bad the rule system in place was.
IIRC didn't Saidit also have a built-in class for powerusers?
Which the site owner ignored and then called people names when pissy about being criticised about some things.
Simplest way to lose faith in any rule is so watch the person instituting it break said rule.
The rule the internet because nobody in real life will believe they're real women
Because if they go outside they know they don't pass. And so does everyone else. So literally leaving the house means they are well aware everyone they walk by is staring at them with shock, disgust, or judgement.
So they literally never leave their house, ever. Most don't even work because they are disabled in some other way to begin with, usually mentally. So they have 18+ hours a day on the internet every day to infest it.
They're poisonous losers out to destroy anything and everything to spite the world. I'm not a religious man, but if I were I'd think they were satanic. I shit on a lot of sacred classes, but the only ones I consider irredeemably evil are troons. The rest would probably be capable of being functional members of society if they were held accountable for their shit.
I used to be on saidit.net. It was run like dogshit. The owner banned me because I used swearing in my titles. Asshole. LOL. I used to be so loyal to that site, and he gave me the boot. Loser.
What about Poal? After one of Faggit's purges Saidit and Poal had AMA's on the Faggit subs to try to get the community migrate there. Did Poal suffer the same fate?
Pinging u/CatoTheElder as well since he seems to be aware of this stuff.
Helllllllllllll No.
Poal has removed all "problematic" posts, AOU routinely removes points (which means users can't post, respond, etc) from accounts he deems to be a problem, which is anybody challenging his bullshit. He personally begged me to come over from Voat. I did for awhile, then I don't know what the fuck happened to him. Mine and many others were put into a "Suspicious Behavior" category. I told him to suck my balls and left. I couldn't delete my account there, either. That option was removed for us in the same boat.
It's chock full of faggotry, but think of it as Reddit with two jannies, not thousands--actually one, now the other faggot "died".
If I recall right I got into an argument with that guy over on KiA2 on the lifeboat exploration thread about loli.
I got him to admit that his rationale for banning it was entirely personal, as well as a few other things.
I (correctly) pointed out that the site's rules would naturally devolve as the views of the administration shifted. Free speech would be entirely temporary.
I think the others pretty much covered it. Poal was better than saidit, it allowed discussion of the chosen ones, but it has some fuckery with paid memberships and tremendous butthurt about downvotes. Voat of course was the best, but then it went private and required a log in to even lurk, so I never went back to it. Do note: I never made an account on any of the other sites, including reddit.
Poal.co is the alternative to Voat.
no it is not , there are no alternatives to voat
wait voat.xyz/talk.lol died? ....yeah i know the origonals gone but something survived
We probably shouldn't celebrate this. This is a victory for the wokists and the globalists.
Whether they manage to successfully co-opt a dissident forum and keep it viable, or simply destroy it instead, they have still achieved their goal: one less community that doesn't conform.
They banned free speech on Ruqqus a long time ago. They conformed then and now they are gone.
Yup. Gave them a shot, but they became reddit 2.0 fast. Only without the money to support their bad ideas.
Get woke go broke
why does this always happen?
Because it turns from a passion project or hobby into a source of income or "something my name is attached to."
Which means now they want to look respectable and protect their source of money, usually by sanitizing it for ads and journo back pats.
For most Google Adsense is the only viable way to passively generate enough income to run the site, and to use it you need to adhere to Google's content restriction requirements.
I think a lot of people even here don't understand how much of a stranglehold Google has over clearnet.
Pretty much every site and every content creator is heavily incentivized to censor their content, and punished for producing verboten content.
It's why there's such a massively artificial and samey feel to what makes it to the "top" content these days. The creators are glorified actors that don't even realize or care they're reading off a script.
Exactly. The problem is when you sell yourself as "Free speech" principled, but then go back on that to make money.
That's by definition "selling out" and removes the single reason people used your product in the first place, thereby making the ads useless anyway.
This is why Andrew has been promoting Gab's Adsense alternative in his email updates. If there's a viable Adsense alternative, the shackles can come off.
My guess is they start smelling money.
Well I'm going to anyway.
Look at what u/Benevolentdictator posted (it's currently the top comment). It sounds like it either was or became Faggit 2.0 and is going the way Faggit needs to go. Unless they started out based and got infiltrated a communist shit hole collapsing under its own rot is a good thing. Even if it did get infiltrated it's still a victory for us, because it shows what happens when wokists drive off the original userbase without an endless supply of free money to shield them from the consequence of their shitty behavior. Faggit is next if the money dries up.
not celebrating, just reporting
I'm sad it came to this because the site had a nice interface
Hahahaha, fucking good. Captain Meta was a retarded faggot who was on a power trip. Glad that shit hole burned down. So was carpathianflorist and to a lesser extent, Villain.
Ruqqus attracted a ton of trannies too for some reason. They'd spend all day just stirring up trouble around the site and grooming ruqqus' admins on discord.
That thread is a dumpster fire, ugh.
Somebody mentioned communities.win. I hope they don't decide to move over here/
I bet they got paid off to shut down.
I know I haven't been back there since they banned a bunch of guilds and kicked out a bunch of people for wrong think. If they were willing to do that then then it was only a matter of time before I was considered wrong think too
Good. Fuck 'em. And these idiots don't even understand why their shit failed.
first voat, now ruqques, seems like they were created to be shut down.
Even though I think social media is cancer, I've been really damned impressed with Gab's CEO standing up to the tyrannical bullshit from multiple world governments.
Didn't gab ban porn or something? While I might not want porn on there that's still free speech.
Banning pornography is not really comparable to banning political discourse. I don't think the original argument to have it covered by the 1st amendment to the Constitution of these once-united states was particularly strong.
I might be misremembering because I never used Gab but I recall the porn ban was precipitated by loli posters (but I don't recall if it went as far as porn). Lolicons who got banned elsewhere gave Gab a shot, the owner (Torba something) saw it and basically said "fuck that you're outta here" which resulted in the porn ban.
Gab seems to be surviving despite (or because of) it.
I'm not sure of my own opinion on the matter.
Gab has leaned heavily into the religious angle, and it makes sense that a devout, proselytizing Christian wouldn't want to host pornography.
For me, I'm not looking for porn on Gab, and don't mind that it's not there.
Political speech not being censored is important not loli garbage. Want loli garbage go to twitter
assuming much?
I seem to remember them banning ALL types of porn
I don't even disagree with the loli ban, it makes sense from a tactical standpoint(though I still don't agree fully, art is free speech...I can just understand why they did it).