Some People are Large Language Models
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They’ve outsourced their critical thinking to the group in order to be seen as righteous, because society has been set up since WW2 to bash White people.
If you read the replies it’s almost entirely women not getting it.
This is why they shouldnt vote
There was a video on youtube awhile ago that described them as "bags of conditioned responses".
I had an experience with someone like this in college. There was some story of a kid who got raped by his female teacher and this guy did the typical normie "man i wish i was as lucky as him" shtick. I countered that the kid was too young to fully understand what was happening and that it would mess him up for a long time. This guy just looks back at me with the blankest stare I've ever seen. There was absolutely nothing behind those eyes.
That was the first time I encountered one of them and recognized it for what it was. It scared the shit out of me, because I realized that people like him were around me all the time, like skinwalkers, or Westworld robots that aren't aware they are machines. They say the words, but they don't really know or think about what they mean. They just know they are the things they are supposed to say.
And they get to vote.
You see this nonsense on scored, unfortunately, don't think I have seen it on KIA2, though.
It's basically everywhere. Being able to empathize with another human being is a higher IQ trait that a lot of people don't actually possess, mostly confusing it with sympathy. The caveat to that is that it can be misdirected toward things that shouldn't be empathized with, like murderers with sob stories.
This is why that liberal vs. conservative brain heatmap is such an important data point. It illustrates why liberals are a death cult. Their care priority is completely reversed from what it should be, to the point of turning them into oikophobes. It leads them to sympathize with people outside their tribe, and those people don't necessarily have the best of intentions.
You're describing it backwards. The inability to have empathy is a symptom of anendophasia, the lack of internal monologue. The part where you may care is it used to be extremely rare. The original studies had to be done in prisons. It's not rare anymore, and they've softened the definitions.
The definition used to place these people in the same lines as sociopaths. But, the definition of that family of diagnosis is too mean now that it is no longer rare.
We have scientific evidence skinwalkers walk among us and we can't do anything about it because it would be mean.
I think they were created intentionally. They aren't the type of people who care about following bad orders.
At least conservative npcs can be pointed towards maintaining the culture and country. Liberal npcs are destructive bot programs
It's because they're imaging themselves right now sleeping with that Woman, not themselves as a Child, or more importantly, the Child in question being in that situation.
David Icke calls them repeaters.
And I feel thats a pretty apt description. They dont learn to think for themselves but rather repeat back what they read in a book.
17 years ago now, lmao im old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBUqrHTjwh8
Doesn't matter, it's better than dying a virgin like will happen to me.
Probably due mostly to the fact that you don’t leave your house, and when you do you don’t speak with anyone, so you don’t know how to have conversations with people.
And because you’re a habitual liar.
I don't leave my house because I can't find peers when I go out. If the last half dozen times I've gone out haven't lead to me finding any peers why would I keep trying to do the same things that are clearly not working rather than wanting to try something different.
I don't speak to anyone because the only people I'm around besides my family are people I have no reason to talk to. If I was able to find peers I would be more outgoing, but every time I try my search comes up empty and any time I tell people about this online they call me a liar.
You barely go out. When you do, you keep your head down and you leave as soon as you can. You can't find anyone because you don't look.
You don't even know what different thing you want to do. You have to figure that out on your own. So many people have offered you help that you refuse to take, so now it's up to you to actually figure out what you want to do.
That's because you are a liar. You lie a lot.
I barely go out because every time is a demoralizing experience due to the lack of peers. It just gives me the feeling that I'm looking in the right place, Do you just expect me to loiter around for hours for hours waiting for people to come and go?
You sound like you're just continuing to deny the problem and insisting that I'm somehow not looking hard enough when from the way you and everyone else describe the world I should just be able to go out and encounter the demographics I'm looking for which admittedly DOES seem like how it works in some places but I don't know how to find those places near me. My area seems to be mostly elderly and Mexican which severely limits the ability to connect with anyone. A high population of the wrong demographics are even worse than a tiny population of the right demographics for being able to make peer connections.
There's nothing I enjoy and everybody seems to be focusing on the wrong aspects when they give me advice, all of it sounds more like a distraction that will only waste time rather than a targeted solution. Not just that but you keep saying I can just go out at any time and find things to do but my experiences seem to show the opposite.
Nope, you just twist my words into seeing me as a liar.
There is no “every time” you’ve done something because you’ve never gone out to just meet people and have casual conversation. That’s what you need to work on. That’s what it takes.
You aren’t trying hard, at all.
You can go out at any time, you are choosing not to.
You blatantly lie. It’s not twisting words, the things you type are blatant lies.
I have tried so many times over the years and can't find the opportunities. I keep trying and looking but I cannot find peers when I look. this has been an issue for most of my life and people always accuse me of lying and tell me that there MUST young people all over doing things. How the fuck am I meant to work on something when I can't even find the opportunities?
Mankind rediscovers the actual meaning of stupidity in the year 2026.
Because whether he denies it or not, what he's describing is what stupid is.
Yeah, words like stupid, idiot, and moron have colloquially been used as insults for so long, most assume they're synonymous. But they used to be specific classifications of people.
The other thing that's important here, besides not self censoring out of fear of offending, is understanding what he's describing.
A reward/punishment system is not an unknown. It's something any parent or dog owner should be familiar with.
"Idiots. —Those so defective that the mental development never exceeds that or a normal child of about two years. Imbeciles. —Those whose development is higher than that of an idiot, but whose intelligence does not exceed that of a normal child of about seven years. Morons. —Those whose mental development is above that of an imbecile, but does not exceed that of a normal child of about twelve years.” — Edmund Burke Huey, Backward and Feeble-Minded Children, 1912
I used to play an old Frankenstein computer game, and when you messed up the doctor called you those depending on how bad you did. These days you can't even have fun shit talking. But, I had fun playing that game that shit talked me!
I'm glad the magic spellification of language is entering the vernacular.
The problem is that it is completely false. It attributes some sort of mysticism to language that it has some inherent value, when the people saying the correct sequence of words to get the outcomes they want have a better understanding of language and it's usefulness. Saying words, without trying to gain an outcome from them, is just noise. Words are for programming people and now computers through LLMs.
There are witches, who do mean to cast a spell over you
And there are midwitches, who are just repeating a spell they've heard without understanding.
Yes, some people do mean words are magic spells. If you don't want to watch the full video, FF to somewhere in the middle, and listen to the guest speaker speak with intention. There is a difference. People that choose to ignore it, are allowing others to have power. Words do have power. But, be careful. I had to find this woman. There are more people on this topic than there used to be, and some of them take a wrong turn.
https://youtu.be/UHXxqbWoXH8
I see what you're saying, but I think "gain" can be interpreted less broadly. Language for communicating is technically a "gain" but is clearly different from trying to manipulate people into specific outcomes by calling them an -ism.
Words are just sounds that have representations of things. They work uncomfortably close to magic spells.
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---Lauren Chen tweet---
I just figured out why the Minnesota ICE death is bothering me so much.
This liberal woman was willing to take on federal agents, to disrupt ICE operations, in order to protect criminal Somalis.
Obviously, she probably didn't imagine she would be killed. But surely, she must have known that, at the very least, she could be arrested.
She has three kids. So she was willing to be separated from her kids to protect criminal Somalis.
Speaking as a mother, this is insanity. This is not rational thinking.
What it is, instead, is the result of liberal brainrot that convinces progressive women they have more of a duty to nurture and protect poor, brown (criminal!) strangers than their own country, and hell, even their own children.
I am praying for this woman's soul and for her family. But I mean it when I say this type of thinking is almost wholly responsible for the decline of Western civilization.
---Devon Eriksen tweet---
A vast number of humans, probably a majority, aren't people.
They are large language models.
I'm not saying this as a generality, as a clever or funny way of saying, "they are stupid".
No. I mean something very concrete and specific, and there are a lot of people who appear very intelligent, maybe even win awards for writing good poetry or something, who are nevertheless not people, not fully sapient, just a large language model walking around in a human body.
First, you have to understand what a large language model is.
It's a computer (organic or inorganic), which has been trained on a data set consisting solely of language (written or spoken), and rewarded for producing language that sounds like the data set, and is relevant to a prompt.
That's all there is in there.
This is why ChatGPT and Grok lie to you constantly.
It's not because they are somehow just indifferent to the truth — they actually do not understand the concept of "truth" at all.
For something to be a "lie", or an "inaccuracy", there has to be a mismatch between the meaning of words, and the state of reality.
And there's the critical difference. You see, in order to identify a mismatch between the state of reality, and the meaning of a sentence, you have to have a model of reality.
Not just one model, of language.
This is why Grok and ChatGPT hallucinate and tell you lies. Because, for them, everything is language, and there is no reality.
So when I say someone is a large language model, I do not mean he is "stupid". He might be very facile at processing language. He might, in fact, be eloquent enough to give great speeches, get elected president, win the Nobel Peace Prize, and so on.
What I mean is that humans who are large language models do not have a robust world-object model to counterweight their language model. They are able to manipulate symbols, sometimes adroitly, but they are on far shakier ground when trying imagine the objects those symbols represent.
Which brings us to this woman.
Most conservatives understand her behavior in terms of concepts like "suicidal empathy", or "brainwashing", or an "information bubble", interpreted as reasons why she is delusional, but the truth is far worse than that.
To delusional is to have an object model of the world that is deeply and profoundly wrong. But to have an object model of the world that is deeply and profoundly wrong... you have to have one in the first place.
To sapient humans, words are symbols, grounded in object model of reality, that we use to communicate ideas about that reality. We need those words because we don't come equipped with a hologram projector, or telepathic powers.
But for another type of human, that object model isn't very large or robust at all. It consists only of a grass hut or two with a few sticks of furniture, and it can never be matched up with the palaces in the air which she weaves out of words.
And so, to her, there is no reality. Or at least very little.
Reality consists only of her and her immediate surroundings in time and space, and words referring to anything bigger or more complicated are not descriptions of reality... they are magic spells which will make other humans drop loot or give her social approval.
You cannot correct her worldview with contradictory evidence, because there is no worldview to correct.
You cannot confront her with the logical inconsistencies in her worldview, because her object model doesn't actually have any, it's not complex enough for that.
The relevant parts of her world-object model can be summed up as follows:
"If I say Goodthing, I get headpats and cookies from all the people like me."
That model is simply not big or complicated enough to contain notions like self-defense or vehicular assault. She has no theory of mind for a man whose job includes violence. She cannot explain or predict his behavior.
It is too far away from her daily experience to fit into her reality at all.
And if she can't imagine things like these, how can she possibly imagine concrete meanings for vast and complex ideas like demographic replacement, culture shift, and western civilization?
This is not about intelligence or lack of it. This is about what her brain is trained to do.
Her upbringing, education, and life did not force, or even encourage, her to develop a robust world-object model. It wasn't necessary for her to get safety, approval, or cookies. She just had to be glib.
So it really didn't matter if she had an IQ of 125, or whatever, because if she did, then she was just an IQ-125-large-language-model, and only used that brain capacity for writing clever poetry, and saying things that aligned her to her local social matrix.
She couldn't actually understand the world no matter how smart she was, because her brain was trained up wrong.
I don't know if this is correctable, or if there was some critical developmental phase that was missed, but it doesn't matter, because once the LLM-humans are adults, they won't sit still for corrective therapy, percussive or not.
What's important is that they can't be taught things. They can be programmed to repeat stuff, and if you win a culture war, you can even program them to say the sensible stuff. But even then, they will just be saying it for headpats and cookies. They will never truly understand the sense of what they are repeating, because they don't understand things.
They are just Large Language Models.
And we have to figure out some way to take the vote away from them.
Good description of government schools there.
Thank you for that.
It's bad coding. The example that is most recent and memorable is Trump being president. After the 2020 election code was added to ai making it impossible to reach the conclusion that Trump won the election. To oversimplify
Trump is Preaident = FALSE
everytime. No matter what information was inputed, they had coded the conclusion to always be false. So, when Trump won 2024, that bad code was still there until people made a big deal about why. Why? Why wouldn't the ai say who the current president of the US was? Why?
The answer is bad code. Political code. Opinionated code. The machine is not hallucinating, or lying. It's following the instructions. The instructions, or input is shit, so the output is shit.
But, notice the PR that it's the tool not the developer? The tool isn't working correctly, not the making made an error.
No one funding AI actually wants "Artificial Intelligence".
They want obedient slaves.
Seems to me the goal of ai is to make the Georgia Guildstones possible, and true.
Thank you, been having a lot of trouble the last few days with Twitter (web) that doesn't allow me to scroll once the page is loaded (I'm probably blocking something important, shrug).
That's just NPC behavior with extra steps.
An NPC will believe what the group believes, to the detriment of what they said and did as quickly as a few minutes ago.
The last thing any of them want to be is an exiled apostate to the group. Because no one in the group hates others more than former members outside the think sphere realizing the group is not all it said it was.
I think it's just a deeper understanding of NPC. I've had to deal with it recently where something wasn't working, and I had people saying they needed to work harder to get it done. I got some sleep and came back with a solution. They were actually angry at me for not working hard.
Stupid people hate looking stupid.
They'll believe any ridiculous lie you tell them, as long as it gives them an excuse to not confront their inadequacy.
it's drug addict behavior.
Dopamine addiction has proven worse than heroin, crack, alcohol and HRT combined.
There are various studies that show that 80% of people have no inner monologue. They just exist, like NPC's.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38728320/
https://hurlburt.faculty.unlv.edu/heavey-hurlburt-2008.pdf?referrer=grok.com
That second sentence is somehow scarier than the first.
I disagree that this has nothing to do with IQ. Language is only a component of IQ. I'm willing to bet that if you take a Nobel prize winning "LLM human" who speaks as if he has an IQ of 120 and test him, you'll find he has an IQ of 98. After which, much ado will be made of the unfairness of standardized tests and how "mathematical skill isn't intelligence!"
If you actually have an IQ of 125 (the hypothetical number in the tweet), I don't see how you can't develop a model of reality. While IQ tests don't check to see if you are capable of telling the truth, there is a heavy emphasis on visualizing and mentally manipulating complex three dimensional shapes. One of those "I can't picture an apple in my mind's eye" fuckers would score abysmally, no matter how nice they talk.
The balancing of aggregate test scores between fields (verbal reasoning, abstract reasoning, etc.) to create a singular IQ, is basically just arbitrary. The theoretical general intelligence factor, g, is a significant portion of all those scores, so it still generally holds true, it's just too fuzzy on the details. Say you switch the weighting from 0.5 & 0.5 of two tests to 0.3 & 0.7. You're probably going to end up with a similarish number of >125 IQ results, but who is above and below that threshold is going to switch around dramatically.
Personally I think the weighting that gives the greatest possible contribution of g to results, on a population level, is the correct weighting in terms of quantifying the physical performance of someone's brain as a computational organ, and thus an individual's actual mental potential independent of training. But if you apply that to IQ test results the disproportionately high verbal IQ people are going to be very disappointed with their results, and they also just so happen to govern all the institutions that legitimize anything social "science" related to normies.
I remember my test scores from when I was younger. They showed a graph of what I was good vs very good at. Added up at the bottom for the final score. Idk what method that was, but there was no weight given in scoring. The test was then used to improve my skills in the areas I didn't test very well in.
That's not what my children experienced in school AT ALL. The sole purpose of these tests in the MD school systems is to earn the schools money. That's where teaching to the test comes in. That's where weighted test scores come in. The tests aren't being used for the benefit of the child. It's monetization.
I remember only one question from the first one I did in kindergarten. I was asked how and airplane flew I distinctly remember saying it was powered by an engine that let it stay in the air because of it's wings. The last one I took was in the 4th grade and I scored a 132 while my best friend and rival scored a 120 something.
I think the fundamental thing that IQ test measure is a person's ability to comprehend, infer, and break down principles and rules. Can you think for yourself essentially
Do you remember if those results were used to benefit you? I was very surprised between the different purpose of tests between when I was young, and when my kids were young.
The change is my opinion on why cities like Baltimore can't pass a single child. The tests serve the child no purpose.
The real benefit was the ability to be placed into the gifted class with people of similar intelligence where we would work on semester long research projects and play games like chess etc.
Elementary school in particular was painfully boring. I memorized most of the material in minutes and I just sat in class day dreaming or doodling unless the teacher was one that allowed me to read library books. I said it as a child and I'll still say it now but if public schools are going to exist then they should have a separate curriculum for the academically inclined students. I just happened to go to a pretty decent but small school where everyone knew everyone else's family well.
I went to elementary school in a different state than my kids. The quality there was better than private school here. Even when I moved in middle school I could see it. My 5ty grade history book in IL was my 8th grade history book in MD.
That whole tweet could have just said, that person would fail a new and improved Touring Test.
Authoritarianism grooms people into thinking in these extremely limited, low-time preference, and highly ideological terms through rhetoric and sophistry. That's the point.
Her whole job was to kill herself for the people who conditioned her. Yes, the media played a part.
Fundamentally, every institution in society is promoting psychological abuse tactics like your crazy ex-girlfriend with a cluster B personality disorder in order to spread that disordered thinking for the sake of concentrating power.
This is where the "Psychological Black Death" that WhatIfAltHist talks about comes from.
We are being told we only have two choices or the choices they give us.
Yup, and that is the grooming process.
The NPC meme was never really a meme, it was a preliminary diagnosis in need of a proper diagnostic test.
Devon has great takes and is also an excellent scifi author. His book Theft of Fire is excellent. The audiobook is one of the best I've listened to as well.
Disagree to some extent, pretty sure creative problem solving and critical thinking are at least partially innate.
Yeah, I think we're seeing partially people who genetically lack those abilities and partially people who had those abilities beaten out of them by government schools and mass media programming.
At this point we are seeing the children of children that got a shit education. There was no one at home with the right answer.
When my kids were in school the school got mad I was telling my kids," That may be the answer they're looking for, but that's not the right answer. " . The school sent out letters telling parental not to look at the kids homework. The kids were not allowed to bring books home some years either.
My kids had friends who's parents didn't have any issues with the materials I had to call my parents, and grandparents to get help explaining material because I wanted to make sure I wasn't skipping anything.
The knee jerk conspiratorial thinking has really irked me lately. It’s hard to have an intelligent conversation with many people that I even agree with on a surface level.
Of course we’re lied to constantly by media, academia, et cetera but that doesn’t mean a rando you watched on youtube can enlighten you about how the moon landings were faked.
One of my friends oldest friends has fallen into this line of thinking and I’ve just given up trying to talk to him about anything serious. Every event in history is some sort of cover-up.
We know what an NPC is
The Trump admin should be deporting Lauren Chen, her Leaf husband & her Nashville anchor babies.
First, I have an issue with LLM's not being able to apply logic. Truth tables are exactly LLM material. Probably the OG input.
Second, that picture of the apples reminds me of the people that can't visualize. They're like the people with no inner voice. They are real life NPC's in a way. Idk if that apple picture was intentional but, it has a meaning already.
These used to be rare. The numbers still say they're rare. But, back before reddit became dead internet theory there were threads on these. They used to have to do studies on inmates. Because not having an inner voice meant an inability to understand cause, and effect. As well as an inability to experience empathy, or putting yourself in another persons shoes. The people that didn't learn to pretend to be normal ended up in jail.
These aren't rare anymore. Idk if it's ASD or what, but I've read threads with thousands of people surprised they fit the description in some place on a scale of either no inner voice, or no ability to visualize.
If you're reading this, and you have an inner voice, I'm sorry I just made you read aloud in your head.
There's actually a fairly good sci fi writer who has no images. He just writes based on what he thinks sounds good. He doesn't picture his story at all.
That could be an artistic preference. My understanding is the two skills I mentioned above were taken as a given just 100 short years ago. Add in the ," Zero Tolerance Policy" in schools. Let's not forget a side of covid kids who don't have basic social skills because of masking. ( remember those kids terrified of people without masks?)
Seems rather designed. The killbox comes to mind.
Yes, I've felt for a long time some people are just human-shaped parrots. They make mouth noises to get stuff, and have zero thought behind it.
While its tempting to analyze by race (and probably accurate) this could happen to anyone. There is some crucial component of humanity you are not born with. This can easily be seen with feral kids "raised by wolves." Their brain never gets there and develops proper conciousness.
Like it or not, who you surround yourself with matters, so make sure they are people you want to be like.
It's not race. It's school system. I was reading the difference between public school books, and private school books the other day because G. Maxwell's father was in charge of McGraw-Hill. Then there is home homeschool books. Home school book brands can be private school good, and Wikipedia bad.
An example that would depend on your age. Did you have your own worksheet workbooks you ripped the page out to turn in, or did you always only ever get xerox copies? If you are old enough that you had workbooks your handwriting tattles on where you grew up. The school district bought the brands they chose.
I'd say the people who are most like LLM's are those that use LLM's.
You're being generous. Some of them are clearly Small Language Models.
Some are DallE 1 with full hallucinations.
Unironically, yes. People are just a machine that turns stimuli into waste heat and feces.
This all seems very plausible, but does anyone has any idea on how to scientifically prove it?
Soft science wise I've observed it. It's a combination of the Dunning Krueger effect and Propaganda. I've nicknamed it the Pokemon Fight effect. Everyone chooses their own expert and then quotes the three or four things taught to them. So, Neil Degrasse Tyson said that global warming is real, and he is an expert, therefore it must be real and for the reasons he gave. If the expert changes their reasons, so does everyone who follows them.
Add in media in general and a constant flow of subjects that you can't be an exact expert on every time. Then social pressure to follow. Everyone starts to use their Pokemon experts and think they have independent thoughts.
I expect it to work like religions arguing with each other. When I taught at a university in Utah I had friends who served missions. They said people would argue with them with the exact same ideas over and over again. Ironically, even after hearing this, other professors would say the same argument to me as a fact. I would then point out my own religion, and they would give me phrases I've heard hundreds of times. Some of these people are experts, and yet not.
Since much of modern propaganda is replacing religion with the ideas of the state or large organization, it wouldn't be a surprise to see that the same methods work. A full brain scan as it happens would be cool, but we would need way more advanced equipment to get that. So, if it's repeatable, and the patterns show the same, that's likely what is happening.