They are saying that the groypers were at war with Charlie Kirk so they assassinated him. I don't really care for the groypers, but it seems like a desperate attempt to associate the shooter with the "far-right".
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A friend has done an interview and said he was the only leftist in a Republican family. There is no debate, they are just muddying the waters. Also as Walsh pointed out, no groyper is going to call Charlie a fucking fascist FFS, it's nonsensical. Fuentes and Charlie had beef, but this type of radicalism towards white conservatives is reserved for the left. If a groyper type went haywire he would target Jews or something like that, not con inc. And like I said, even in the small chance that happened, the bullets would say kike lover and shit like that, not fucking fascist ffs
Never send your kids to college, especially in the big cities.
The Little Fish - Big Pond dynamic ruins teenage girls, and the colleges don't help.
If this is truly the assassin, and not a patsy for a false flag (a huge assumption right now), and if what you said is true, it probably explains why this man radicalized and acted out. Singular leftists from entirely right wing families fall out hard, and easily go more extreme left than "normal" lefties. These lone lefties go absolutely rabid and are really easy to inculcate into left wing propaganda and violent rhetoric, fueled off of hatred for their own families.
The FBI didn't find him, he was turned in by his own family after he bragged to them. That would be one hell of a strange set up for a false flag patsy.
Yeah, there are some people who have gotten so lost in the sauce they see everything as a psyop instead of admitting sometimes a spade is a spade.
As I said, I leave the possibilities open. However, if you don't think families are ever involved or willing to be involved in conspiracies, you're not well versed on the subject. As a small example, just look at what happened with the Sandy Hook school shooting. Tons of families went along with the narrative because they were either feds, crisis actors, or got their mortgages paid off. The school wasn't even in working order when the shooting supposedly happened.
This is precisely the mistake right wingers, and normal people in general, continue to make. You're trusting known liars. You're trusting the government and media, that lie to us all the time. Stop making this mistake. It makes you really easy to manipulate.
That is a good point, but I don't understand why the timeline has clear inconsistencies with his clothes and the gun.
The gun is nowhere on his body when he walks to the site and the idea he could conceal it in his jeans, even broken down, seems absurd when you see clear pictures.
The answer is accomplices. Probably three or four. At least one of which is likely to be faculty at the college.
I though that was obvious? I mean ffs that fucking Jew in the crowd was clearly in on it, trying to make everyone attack him and pay attention to him.
There's a lot of right wing influencers I don't like, but it makes absolutely zero sense to inflict violence on them.
Do you have that interview?
"bella ciao" is an Antifa slogan like "alerta alerta".
I guess the jury's still out on what "hey fascist, catch" means?
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I find it weird that a white guy from Utah murdered Charlie Kirk. Either soooooo many things went wrong in that family for the son to grow up that deranged or something strange is going on. I expected a tranny from a blue state or a black guy.
He grew up Mormon in Utah, and my guess would be he probably had a falling out with his family at some point. Ex-Mormons are notorious for swinging hard left and abruptly adopting extreme ideologies.
Damn, talk about a bad case of daddy issues then. You know, hating his father so he purposely became a monster in his father's eyes.
I know a lot of Mormons.
Homo. Guaranteed.
I assume furry
The overlap between any type of pervert and progs is essentially a hundred percent.
These comments were prophetic. https://nypost.com/2025/09/13/us-news/charlie-kirk-shooter-tyler-robinson-lived-with-transgender-partner/
It does make sense in a fucked up way. If you live in a state that is very homogeneous, white, traditional, Republican and religious then it's easy to not really appreciate those things very much. And take them for granted. It's easy to think the grass is greener on the other side(and that leftists are able to create some kind of utopia). I'm guessing a lot of people in Utah have to actually live in an environment that is the opposite of Utah to realize, the good things they have. Humans have a bad habit of building up this fantasy in their head of what the world is outside of their world. You ever notice the majority of white people who are not racist, have never lived near a lot of black people for many years? You ever notice the majority of white liberals grew up in these rich or wealthy neighborhoods that are mostly white? Easy for them to say diversity is a good thing and people who oppose it are "Evil Nazis" when they never had to live on a street that is like 10% White, 10% Arab, 10% Indian, 35% Latin American and 35% Black for many years. Being in favor of all this diversity, tolerance and despising everyone who is against those things to the point you are celebrating their deaths, is often the byproduct of being a sheltered spoiled brat with helicopter parents who made a lot of money. EDIT: One of the biggest flaws of humans is taking things for granted until it's too late.
So true. It happened to me, but I was young-ish when I went from a 97% white city to the east bay area and attending a high school that was 85% black. It was an eye opening experience to say the least.
I wish we could force all white people to live in a situation like that for a few months. Obviously that's not realistic and it wouldn't turn everyone conservative, but we'd definitely be in a much better place.
Yep, white people often have to experience racism and crime from blacks to realize, peaceful coexistence with them is not really possible. They need to walk by groups of black people openly talking about how white people are demons from hell or mutants who should be purged from existence as a part of their normal conversations to understand real life. They need to witness black men trying to have sex with every white women who has a white boyfriend or white husband out of spite. They need to witness that extreme level of hatred and tribalism. They need to witness blacks trying to break into their home.
All of that, plus they need to see that the black community is in a bad place because of the behavior and decisions made by black people. No amount of outside money is going to fix the situation.
Unfortunately forcing most people to live in that situation would also end with a lot of them dead, beat, raped or some other horror.
And while that's definitely an eye opening experience for everyone, its also much worse of a fate than "everyone should work a little retail to understand." Niggers are feral and the most time they have around white people the more they destroy.
He has ears lower than eyes, a sloped forehead, droopy eyes, abs sick- looking, colorless skin. Just the sort of guy who would say "Fellow whites, we must <something that's against White people's interest>!"
That's why Salt Lake and much of the Salt Lake Valley has a bifforcated culture. Either you are a member, and have belonged for generations, or you're not. Those who decide to not be go really far.
Reddit, isolation, and time. That's all you need to become a tranny and/or murderer
...or Discord... lots of neophytes get put through the Lefty pipeline that way.
Most of the most insane violent golems are mentally abused whites. Trannies etc. They have psyopped whites so hard from birth. Its disgusting.
You find it weird that an effeminate white guy was radicalized in college and murdered a right winger
I didn't know he was effeminate.
Have you seen how skinny and ill built he is? Dude oozes estrogen
Seems like he got super radicalized very early. Even before college, early in high school. Raised by the internet. There's a screenshot from his mom's facebook going around that implies his parents just turned him loose on the internet with no supervision.
The first sign that it wasn't a groyper is that the shooter was white.
I say this as I am as fucking anti-groyper as is physically possible. You faggots radicalized me (I don't see you as people, let alone racist. You're just Nazi fags, or literal mestizo fags larping as Nazis. You are, at best, the Useful Idiots of Feds, or you are just White Socialists).
This isn't them. Obviously. Bella Ciao is clearly a communist song, as it encourages anti-Fascist violence and recruiting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYIJ2r3AeiM
Obviously, it's not the Italian Royalists, Social Democrats, Liberals, or Monarchists calling for partisan war in Italy against Mussolini.
More than anything this is probably an attempt by communists to deflect their involvement and try and divide "the right". Not that the groypers are right, or deserve to be treated with any aspect of human decency. I'm sure the faggots might even fall for it.
You don't see us as people? That's rich. I wonder who else thinks its fair to shoot and kill anybody who is a "Nazi"? I wonder where this dehumanizing rhetoric will lead?
Ive always responded to you person to person but this is over the top. You don't wanna recognize our humanity because we are fed up with being mistreated and replaced because of our race, that makes you no different from the losers that think killing charlie kirk is just fine.
We ARE people. We deserve a homeland. And we deserve safety. People like you are pushing every last moderate out of the cuck inc party and right into Nazism.
Groypers are quickly showing how untrustworthy they are by trying to defend the left on Charlie's assassination
It is true. Fuentes was sweeping hard for the Democrats in his speech
It's almost like fuentes is a tranny loving fag or something and not an actual right winger
I haven't watched any Fuentes or groyper content since the hit myself, but I do see a minority of rightoids that are happy kirk was murdered. Still I don't see much defense of the left, like they don't like kirk cause kirk was a Zionist, fair, but definitely no love for trantifa.
YOU.
Difference is that you replaced "Nazi" with "jew". And to be clear, you don't accept that white people who disagree with you are white people, you see them as "secretly jewish" and then make excuses why they need to go too.
Don't fucking try to appeal to Liberal sensibilities when you want the government over thrown, the constitution eradicated, and everything replaced with literal National Socialism. You don't get to whine and complain when you get collectively blamed as a collectivist. Don't cry to me about 'dehumanizing rhetoric' when you line me, my family, and my friends up against a wall to be shot because you found a book in my library written by Thomas Sowell. You operate entirely off of the friend-enemy distinction, but you applied "enemy" to literally everyone who doesn't worship Catboy Faggot or Adolf Hitler. Me Ne Frago, retard.
Americans deserve a homeland. You don't. Like any other Socialist, you can piss off to someplace else.
This is in the running for most unhinged thing you’ve ever said, and that’s a tough list to crack.
He says he doesn't see "you all" as human but then cries out in pain and says you're dehumanizing him. I'm done entertaining discussion with him.
"you're unhinged!"
Cried the man advocating mass murder. I think I remember you making excuses about how raped white girls wasn't an issue because the British deserved it for letting their country be conquered by Islam. So much for all that 'racial solidarity', eh?
Hush.
Wait, where did he say that?
He's projecting his own psychosis onto others as per usual.
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Fuentes isn’t even that bad - he’s well read on the plagues of neoconservativism and zionism and often (not always obviously, that’s nearly impossible) makes good arguments. Why do you hate him so? Or is it just the fan base? (Far more understandable lol)
Fuentes has repeatedly endorsed leftists. He cant be trusted
Eh, normies have been trusting much much worse people than Fuentes for the past decade. Let me list the name, Boogie2596, Destiny, hbomberguy, mr beast, sam bankman-fried, Hasan Piker, Anthony Fantano, troons breadtubers. Why I call them much worse? They probably endorsed grooming kids to LGBT, BLM, troon surgery and vaccine mandate. I think we need to point out specifically why certain influencer is bad.
I also hate all those fuckers and people kept defending them too. Especially that son of a bitch boogie
Well he was so called mr rogers of the internet and people so badly expected boogie to live up to that image. When he couldn't fulfil that role, people were trying to cope making excuses like "I'm sure Mr roger had a few vices and etc etc." As for me, I wasn't fan of Boogie due to his wishywashy weak beta personality. Then again I didn't like most of the western content creators that became active in 2010 especially the people associated with Channel awesome and 15 years later, I feel vindicated.
That's exactly why I had a problem with boogie. He was spineless and to me it appeared like he came out of nowhere with popularity. He was a fat liberal fuck with no convictions so I found his influence and popularity strange. I also did not watch YouTube almost at all until 2019 so I wasn't persuaded by the popularity of random homos. Most all of them appeared to me how everyone now views Darksyde Phil
Was he though? This feels a lot like those titles people repeat until its associated with a person but few actually believe.
Wil Wheaton and Felicia Day were not literal king and queen of all nerds, but their marketing team certainly said it enough to meme it into reality for a short while.
Like you said on the second paragraph, "if you repeat a lie often enough, it eventually becomes true".
Sure, but it doesn't detract from his arguments.
As mentioned before, even NON Fuentes fans wanted him and Kirk to have a debate because Fuentes has a lot of irrefutably good points about the oppression of White males in Occidental nations. The idea was that even if you didn't like Kirk's politics or milquetoast corporate platitudes, one would be interested to know what his solutions would have been for the systematic problems Fuentes oftentimes brings up?
You don't have to like him to understand he still made good points that needed to be discussed on broader platforms.
See how easy that is?
Fuentes is literally a fed who's sole purpose is to suicide bomb the populist right. His fan base is far worse, but he's fundamentally an enemy of change.
You know how LBJ basically destroyed any changes JFK had made and ensured the Uniparty kept power after Eisenhower & Truman. Barry Goldwater challenged him in 1964, and everyone in the party felt (correctly) that Richard Nixon and John Rockefeller were "Liberal Republicans" of the establishment that weren't ever going to fix the country from what FDR had done. He voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act because (in it's original form) it explicitly violated the constitution and even went as crazy as to make private home sales directly fall under the jurisdiction of the US Congress.
The Left responded more hysterically than would ever be considered normal outside even our time. MLK and Jackie Robinson openly called him Hitlerian, despite the fact that Goldwater had been a long-time Civil Rights activist, who had been pushing for desegregation for decades. And yet, the purpose of reframing Barry Goldwater as Hitler and a Klansman couldn't be more of an imperative of both the FBI and the CIA under LBJ. Shit that nobody in the Democrat was saying about the Democrats who voted against it.
Allow me to read you this quote:
Over and over again, Fuentes has shown himself to be Robert Cleal here. When you consider the level of infiltration in the American Neo-Nazi movement for the past... SEVENTY years, it's not a surprise that these groups remain a quiet but permanent punching back that can be summoned up to scare normies from voting against the Uniparty.
What Fuentes did with Milo & Kanye on Tim Pool's show (along with other many ridiculous efforts to ingratiate himself into Trump's orbit), was to do the exact same thing. Take Trump's 2024 campaign out in the crib by linking him directly with Holocaust Denial and anti-semitism. It's possible that Robert Cleal was simply too stupid and uninformed to know that Goldwater was a "race-traitor half-kike nigger lover" that supported civil rights, or he got marching orders from someone else. Possibly feds, like the one on the very next page:
Page. 305
This doesn't even begin to cover the FBI's involvement, the Goldwater Rule's creation, the complete fiction of the media, and the direct efforts to have him lose the nomination by using itching powder to prevent delegates from raising their hands or attending the floor.
But let's be clear about this full spectrum intelligence warfare campaign against a Conservative, who challenges the Uniparty. In fact, let's remind ourselves that the CIA set up a domestic psyop unit in the offices of the National Press because they were so close to the MSM. You think it's a fucking accident that why the establishment right including Mitt Romney's Dad is actively trying to gatekeep Goldwater from power, that the media is openly promoting a Klu Klux Klan endorsement of a half-jewish Civil Rights Activist integrationist? An endorsement that could only be formed from either total ignorance, or feigned ignorance?
Then we see Fuentes actively being psyop'd at every available turn, and targeting the populist right, and even attempting to suicide bomb the Trump campaign, and you wonder why I hate him?
Because Trump's 2nd term is not the first real effort SINCE 1964 to undermine and damage the Fabian Socialist uniparty system that has been ruling America since Warren G. Harding left office, and I smell a fucking rat that is pushing objective nonsense.
He's too White to be a groyper.
YOU KNOW WHAT ARCH...
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... I CAN'T DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT BUT I STILL WANNA BE MAD, SO I'M KEEPING THE CAPS LOCK ON.
Everyone sees you.
You act like I'm hiding. Pretty sure I'm being very clear, and not mincing my words here.
"Bella Ciao" is a reference to Hearts of Iron IV. Same deal with "Catch this fascist" and the five arrows, it's just a Helldivers II reference. Most of the fucking shit is just videogame references.
That and B^U's Loss.
People are trying to read the fucking tea leaves about what it all means when all they gotta do it look at his Steam library.
Get the fuck out you absolute faggot
Bro.
WHAT DID YOU THINK HEARTS OF IRON WAS REFERING TO?
Some of these mofo's dont know any history, and it shows.
"There was a war???"
You know, maybe that's why some people deny the holocaust.
"If the Holocaust was real, why isn't it in the German tech tree? Checkmate, atheist!"
Wait, you mean to tell me that "Hearts of Iron" doesn't have anything to do with surgery and robotic organs? I haven't felt this betrayed since I found out The Division wasn't about math equations.
OH FUCK, I WAS PLAYING RAINBOW SIX WRONG THE WHOLE TIME! I WAS JUST RUNNING IN CIRCLES LOOKING FOR GOLD!
I LOOK LIKE A FUCKIN' IDIOT!
Yeah - it's funny that the MSM blames everyone or anything except being an antifa, left-winger.