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Leftists are claiming shooter was a groyper because he had bella ciao on the casing
posted 284 days ago by Stagecoach 284 days ago by Stagecoach +89 / -0

They are saying that the groypers were at war with Charlie Kirk so they assassinated him. I don't really care for the groypers, but it seems like a desperate attempt to associate the shooter with the "far-right".

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– Gizortnik 5 points 284 days ago +5 / -0

I say this as I am as fucking anti-groyper as is physically possible. You faggots radicalized me (I don't see you as people, let alone racist. You're just Nazi fags, or literal mestizo fags larping as Nazis. You are, at best, the Useful Idiots of Feds, or you are just White Socialists).

This isn't them. Obviously. Bella Ciao is clearly a communist song, as it encourages anti-Fascist violence and recruiting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYIJ2r3AeiM

Obviously, it's not the Italian Royalists, Social Democrats, Liberals, or Monarchists calling for partisan war in Italy against Mussolini.

More than anything this is probably an attempt by communists to deflect their involvement and try and divide "the right". Not that the groypers are right, or deserve to be treated with any aspect of human decency. I'm sure the faggots might even fall for it.

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– Niemo 24 points 283 days ago +24 / -0

You don't see us as people? That's rich. I wonder who else thinks its fair to shoot and kill anybody who is a "Nazi"? I wonder where this dehumanizing rhetoric will lead?

Ive always responded to you person to person but this is over the top. You don't wanna recognize our humanity because we are fed up with being mistreated and replaced because of our race, that makes you no different from the losers that think killing charlie kirk is just fine.

We ARE people. We deserve a homeland. And we deserve safety. People like you are pushing every last moderate out of the cuck inc party and right into Nazism.

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– MattTheBlack 7 points 283 days ago +7 / -0

Groypers are quickly showing how untrustworthy they are by trying to defend the left on Charlie's assassination

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– SparkMandrill83 4 points 283 days ago +4 / -0

It is true. Fuentes was sweeping hard for the Democrats in his speech

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– ghostfox1_ 3 points 283 days ago +3 / -0

It's almost like fuentes is a tranny loving fag or something and not an actual right winger

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– Niemo 1 point 283 days ago +1 / -0

I haven't watched any Fuentes or groyper content since the hit myself, but I do see a minority of rightoids that are happy kirk was murdered. Still I don't see much defense of the left, like they don't like kirk cause kirk was a Zionist, fair, but definitely no love for trantifa.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 283 days ago +3 / -0

. I wonder who else thinks its fair to shoot and kill anybody who is a "Nazi"?

YOU.

Difference is that you replaced "Nazi" with "jew". And to be clear, you don't accept that white people who disagree with you are white people, you see them as "secretly jewish" and then make excuses why they need to go too.

Don't fucking try to appeal to Liberal sensibilities when you want the government over thrown, the constitution eradicated, and everything replaced with literal National Socialism. You don't get to whine and complain when you get collectively blamed as a collectivist. Don't cry to me about 'dehumanizing rhetoric' when you line me, my family, and my friends up against a wall to be shot because you found a book in my library written by Thomas Sowell. You operate entirely off of the friend-enemy distinction, but you applied "enemy" to literally everyone who doesn't worship Catboy Faggot or Adolf Hitler. Me Ne Frago, retard.

Americans deserve a homeland. You don't. Like any other Socialist, you can piss off to someplace else.

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– current_horror 15 points 283 days ago +15 / -0

Don't cry to me about 'dehumanizing rhetoric' when you line me, my family, and my friends up against a wall to be shot because you found a book in my library written by Thomas Sowell

This is in the running for most unhinged thing you’ve ever said, and that’s a tough list to crack.

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– Niemo 4 points 283 days ago +4 / -0

He says he doesn't see "you all" as human but then cries out in pain and says you're dehumanizing him. I'm done entertaining discussion with him.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 283 days ago +2 / -0

"you're unhinged!"

Cried the man advocating mass murder. I think I remember you making excuses about how raped white girls wasn't an issue because the British deserved it for letting their country be conquered by Islam. So much for all that 'racial solidarity', eh?

Hush.

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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 1 point 282 days ago +1 / -0

Comment Reported for: Rule 3 - Harassment

Comment Approved: An angry screed but not "harassment" unless Gizortnik is going around an following the other user around

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– Graphenium 16 points 284 days ago +16 / -0

Fuentes isn’t even that bad - he’s well read on the plagues of neoconservativism and zionism and often (not always obviously, that’s nearly impossible) makes good arguments. Why do you hate him so? Or is it just the fan base? (Far more understandable lol)

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– MattTheBlack 12 points 283 days ago +12 / -0

Fuentes has repeatedly endorsed leftists. He cant be trusted

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– Socalwackjob 10 points 283 days ago +10 / -0

Eh, normies have been trusting much much worse people than Fuentes for the past decade. Let me list the name, Boogie2596, Destiny, hbomberguy, mr beast, sam bankman-fried, Hasan Piker, Anthony Fantano, troons breadtubers. Why I call them much worse? They probably endorsed grooming kids to LGBT, BLM, troon surgery and vaccine mandate. I think we need to point out specifically why certain influencer is bad.

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– MattTheBlack 9 points 283 days ago +9 / -0

I also hate all those fuckers and people kept defending them too. Especially that son of a bitch boogie

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– throwawayaccount2037 5 points 283 days ago +5 / -0

Sure, but it doesn't detract from his arguments.

As mentioned before, even NON Fuentes fans wanted him and Kirk to have a debate because Fuentes has a lot of irrefutably good points about the oppression of White males in Occidental nations. The idea was that even if you didn't like Kirk's politics or milquetoast corporate platitudes, one would be interested to know what his solutions would have been for the systematic problems Fuentes oftentimes brings up?

You don't have to like him to understand he still made good points that needed to be discussed on broader platforms.

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– Graphenium 1 point 283 days ago +1 / -0

Trump has repeatedly endorsed israel-first zionism. He can’t be trusted.

See how easy that is?

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– Gizortnik 3 points 283 days ago +3 / -0

Fuentes is literally a fed who's sole purpose is to suicide bomb the populist right. His fan base is far worse, but he's fundamentally an enemy of change.

You know how LBJ basically destroyed any changes JFK had made and ensured the Uniparty kept power after Eisenhower & Truman. Barry Goldwater challenged him in 1964, and everyone in the party felt (correctly) that Richard Nixon and John Rockefeller were "Liberal Republicans" of the establishment that weren't ever going to fix the country from what FDR had done. He voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act because (in it's original form) it explicitly violated the constitution and even went as crazy as to make private home sales directly fall under the jurisdiction of the US Congress.

The Left responded more hysterically than would ever be considered normal outside even our time. MLK and Jackie Robinson openly called him Hitlerian, despite the fact that Goldwater had been a long-time Civil Rights activist, who had been pushing for desegregation for decades. And yet, the purpose of reframing Barry Goldwater as Hitler and a Klansman couldn't be more of an imperative of both the FBI and the CIA under LBJ. Shit that nobody in the Democrat was saying about the Democrats who voted against it.

Allow me to read you this quote:

There was the Klu Klux Klan commercial that, although it never aired, was preliminarily cleared for regional showing. It showed Klansmen, played by actors, marching in hooded robes. A burning cross was superimposed over the images as was a picture of the Klan wizard. Robert Cleal of the Alabama KKK was quoted as saying: "The majority of people in Alabama hate niggerism, Catholicism, Judaism..." The announcer then quoted Cleal's endorsement: "I like Barry Goldwater. He needs our help." The announcer did not mention that the senator had twice repudiated Klan support or that he was half Jewish. The KKK ad was such a flagrant example of "guilt by association" that Democrats at the last moment canceled it, but reluctantly.

  • Goldwater: The Man Who Made A Revolution, pg. 304

Over and over again, Fuentes has shown himself to be Robert Cleal here. When you consider the level of infiltration in the American Neo-Nazi movement for the past... SEVENTY years, it's not a surprise that these groups remain a quiet but permanent punching back that can be summoned up to scare normies from voting against the Uniparty.

What Fuentes did with Milo & Kanye on Tim Pool's show (along with other many ridiculous efforts to ingratiate himself into Trump's orbit), was to do the exact same thing. Take Trump's 2024 campaign out in the crib by linking him directly with Holocaust Denial and anti-semitism. It's possible that Robert Cleal was simply too stupid and uninformed to know that Goldwater was a "race-traitor half-kike nigger lover" that supported civil rights, or he got marching orders from someone else. Possibly feds, like the one on the very next page:

"The White House turned to the Central Intelligence Agency to get advance inside information about the Goldwater campaign, although Barry Goldwater could hardly be described as a "domestic enemy." E. Howard Hunt, later convicted for his part in the Watergate break-in, was then serving as Chief of Covert Action for the CIA's Domestic Operations Division. He told a congressional committee more than a decade later that he was ordered by his superior, C. Tracey Barnes, to spy on Goldwater's headquarters in the fall of 1964. Hunt set up a special unit (under the cover of Continental Press, located int he National Press Building) ana arranged for a daily pickup of "any and all information" about the senator and his campaign plans, including advance copies of speeches not yet released to the media. Hunt confessed his shock at the intrusion into Goldwater's affairs but was told that President Johnson "had ordered this activity and that [Chester L.] Cooper would be the recipient of the information. ... In testimony before the House Select Committee on Intelligence in November 1975, CIA Director William Colby admitted that Cooper prepared campaign material for Johnson and obtained advance texts of Goldwater's speeches through a "woman secretary." Colby's testimony suggests that in addition to the Hunt effort, the CIA planted someone inside the Goldwater campaign organization. Goldwater, who had his own excellent intelligence sources, was aware that he was under surveillance. "I just assumed it was one man or two men assigned at the direction of the president.... It never bothered me. I never got upset about it. Oh, I guess [I] should have, but knowing Johnson as I did, I never got upset about it."

Page. 305

This doesn't even begin to cover the FBI's involvement, the Goldwater Rule's creation, the complete fiction of the media, and the direct efforts to have him lose the nomination by using itching powder to prevent delegates from raising their hands or attending the floor.

But let's be clear about this full spectrum intelligence warfare campaign against a Conservative, who challenges the Uniparty. In fact, let's remind ourselves that the CIA set up a domestic psyop unit in the offices of the National Press because they were so close to the MSM. You think it's a fucking accident that why the establishment right including Mitt Romney's Dad is actively trying to gatekeep Goldwater from power, that the media is openly promoting a Klu Klux Klan endorsement of a half-jewish Civil Rights Activist integrationist? An endorsement that could only be formed from either total ignorance, or feigned ignorance?

Then we see Fuentes actively being psyop'd at every available turn, and targeting the populist right, and even attempting to suicide bomb the Trump campaign, and you wonder why I hate him?

Because Trump's 2nd term is not the first real effort SINCE 1964 to undermine and damage the Fabian Socialist uniparty system that has been ruling America since Warren G. Harding left office, and I smell a fucking rat that is pushing objective nonsense.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 10 points 284 days ago +10 / -0

He's too White to be a groyper.

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– Gizortnik 7 points 283 days ago +7 / -0

YOU KNOW WHAT ARCH...

...

... I CAN'T DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT BUT I STILL WANNA BE MAD, SO I'M KEEPING THE CAPS LOCK ON.

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– current_horror 6 points 283 days ago +6 / -0

You faggots radicalized me (I don't see you as people, let alone racist. You're just Nazi fags, or literal mestizo fags larping as Nazis. You are, at best, the Useful Idiots of Feds, or you are just White Socialists).

Everyone sees you.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 283 days ago +3 / -0

You act like I'm hiding. Pretty sure I'm being very clear, and not mincing my words here.

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– Daucus9 5 points 284 days ago +5 / -0

"Bella Ciao" is a reference to Hearts of Iron IV. Same deal with "Catch this fascist" and the five arrows, it's just a Helldivers II reference. Most of the fucking shit is just videogame references.

That and B^U's Loss.

People are trying to read the fucking tea leaves about what it all means when all they gotta do it look at his Steam library.

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– ActiveLurker 6 points 283 days ago +6 / -0

Get the fuck out you absolute faggot

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– Gizortnik 5 points 283 days ago +5 / -0

Bro.

WHAT DID YOU THINK HEARTS OF IRON WAS REFERING TO?

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– TheModernDaVinci 6 points 283 days ago +6 / -0

Some of these mofo's dont know any history, and it shows.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 283 days ago +3 / -0

"There was a war???"

You know, maybe that's why some people deny the holocaust.

"If the Holocaust was real, why isn't it in the German tech tree? Checkmate, atheist!"

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– YouAreAPirate 4 points 283 days ago +4 / -0

Wait, you mean to tell me that "Hearts of Iron" doesn't have anything to do with surgery and robotic organs? I haven't felt this betrayed since I found out The Division wasn't about math equations.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 283 days ago +3 / -0

OH FUCK, I WAS PLAYING RAINBOW SIX WRONG THE WHOLE TIME! I WAS JUST RUNNING IN CIRCLES LOOKING FOR GOLD!

I LOOK LIKE A FUCKIN' IDIOT!

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