More proof we need apartheid, and we need to remove women from any position of authority.
Apartheid because every other race has in-group preference and acts on them, only retarded Whites refuse to accept this. And remove women's authority because White women are too easy to brainwash into internalizing "racism is mean".
The choice for Whites is either be called racist now because you are doing what is necessary to save your race, or go extinct (and be called racist after you are extinct).
Whites need to understand that they are alone in this fight. No "natural conservative Latinos", no "based Blacks" and no "I love Manga Asians" will save you.
When it comes down to it, they will always prioritize their own people and interests.
There might be some based minorities in older age brackets, but it's almost bound to be a losing battle with minorities who've been perfectly spoiled and content with this warped setup, growing up with these freebies and handouts for the past 10+ years.
In the context of these specific data, it does show that most non-whites still don't agree with the idea. This seems more an issue of the constant brainwashing younger generations have received.
That said the "useless retard" group will always vote to give themselves gibz.
This are just the ones that admit it. The numbers are probably way worse. Also take in to account the number that are what ever about it.
Half of the non-whites being willing to discriminate based on race against whites is about as bad as you can get. This are insane numbers. The numbers for gen-z whites would have been incredibly bad.
First, Apartheid is so retarded even Rhodesians thought it was stupid. Secondly, white people aren't a minority. Third, stop blaming entire demographics for race communism, when it's the race communism that's the problem.
Trump is literally winning an election doing the opposite of these things, and is gaining support with all the people you are trying to remove. If anyone listened to you, Nikki Haley would be the candidate and it would be a neck-and-neck race.
White Hispanic is a political affiliation, even according to Democrats. These are people who are white, pretending that they are Latino because their grandmother was allegedly Spanish.
There is no such thing as a Hispanic ethnicity, because there is no such thing as an ethnicity that stretches across two continents and two hemispheres.
73% is absolute high end, too. It's a bit hard to measure, but some estimates have it closer to 60%. Also, I don't think that takes the eternal eleven million into account. Which is somehow still eleven million after, what, ten to twenty million more illegals came in in the last four years? 11 + 20 = 11.
US used to be more than 90% white, around one hundred years ago.
You literally see less demographic movement in actual invasions, occupations, and imperialism. Roman and British occupations had less of a shift than that, some over longer times, too.
The whole 'whites are a majority' is just a misdirect, to distract until whites are not the majority...which they've said is their goal. And I've said before, whites are the only ones who have "X majority" countries. It's language that makes it malleable; it's a temporary status. You don't hear Asian countries called Asian majority, of African countries African/black majority countries.
It's amazing how people like you will do anything to keep people from talking about this reasonably. Whites are a global minority and, even within their own countries, are being targeted and massively demographically shrinking. This is fact, and you know this. We've never seen anything quite like it.
This whole thing is because I stated Whites are a majority, and Captain Retard said they were in the minority, intentionally rejecting the entire context of this post. now you're complaining, that the entire point of this survey (studying generational differences of Americans) is a re-direction because you want to talk about a completely different subject: whites as a global minority.
There's no reasoning in his reply, and there's no reasoning in yours. Stick to the fucking topic. You're not willing to hear me on anything I have to say, because you've already assumed my position.
you want to talk about a completely different subject: whites as a global minority.
Except, if you were being honest or had reading comprehension (I think the issue here is that you're disingenuous, not retarded), you'd admit that that wasn't my point. The opposite, in fact. I was clearly focusing primarily on countries where whites are not (at present) in the minority. So kind of the opposite.
You're not willing to hear me on anything I have to say
You wanted to talk about a different subject, that's your problem, not mine. The thread is about a Americans. Talking about whites as a global minority is a whole other topic.
There's no way whites are still 73%. There's no 'mestizo' under us census, it's either Hispanic white or Hispanic non whites for Mexicans, most brown Mexicans would pick Hispanic whites because they thought Hispanic nonwhites meant blacks/Philippinos, and brown Mexicans don't want to be associated with blacks
Non-Hispanic/non-Jewish whites (aka whites) are closer to 50% of the US population right now. It was 55%. The percentage goes down by roughly 5% every ten years according to the census, and that doesn’t even take into account all of the illegals (which are also wildly undercounted).
Gitz is a complete liar on this one. He’s basically going full “race isn’t real”.
It'd be one thing if it only applied to Whites of Iberian descent. But like you said, it's to classify beaner-brown Juan Rodriguez as White for nefarious purposes.
That's the last number I have retard. Got a new one or are you just going to cry to yourself that whites have been fully replaced because you're not counting people with "one drop" again?
Third, stop blaming entire demographics for race communism, when it's the race communism that's the problem.
The stats in the post showing that among gen z more then half of blacks and almost half of hispanics are for direct racial discrimination.
Sure, not all of them but this are not negligible numbers. I've yet to hear a solution from you, clearly things are bad for white people, especially young ones and is only going to become worse with gen-z getting in to decision making.
Apartheid is clearly not going to work but at least is an idea, what do you propose?
What do you mean, you've yet to hear a solution from me? I've said it a thousand times over.
Stop funding terrorism.
The reason any of this sentiment exists is because of Leftists dedicating themselves to a media created hyper-reality where those same people think 14,000 unarmed black people are killed every year by police, a number off by 3 orders of magnitude. Devoting yourself to a different Leftist hyper-reality is also wrong.
The solution is simple, the Leftists don't produce anything, and should be defunded. That kills their activism and their hyper-reality can't be sustained.
So what needs to be done to unwind the Social Justice Racket?
Collapse the size of government
End the Pension Racket
Support Steady Deflation
Individuate Banking
End the Welfare State
Privatize Education
Almost every single Leftist program in the west is funded by your tax dollars or your pension fund. Most of that money is being embezzled and used to fund programs and NGO's that hate you.
"But what about mass migration". Trump's already got that idea down: allow local law enforcement to support deportations. But frankly, if you start taking chunks out of just the top two items migrants will stream across the border to get out. They are only here for a couple bucks and will leave when the economy slows. They are being actively brought here. They are not coming organically. Cut funding to the NGO's and incentive programs and you'll have a better wall than a physical one. After that, enforce basic and "common-sense" immigration law. Deport any illegal that commits a crime.
"What about ethnic groups interacting with each other." See previous eras of American History. Allow people to live next to each other for a few generations without stoking race hatred and people will find and choose the amicable mean.
With everything you said that has a very low chance of happening you still need several generations and a faith in human nature that I've not yet seen.
One of the worse realizations of my adult life was that color blindness was only for white people. No other ethnicity was doing it. The idea that in a couple of generations they will develop color blindness does not seem realistic. If it was to happen it would have already happened in the 90s and early 2000s.
You would also need to purge higher education and the entire media, no chance that will happen.
It also does not resolve any of the current tensions, you have large portion of the population that are ok with discrimination against whites. It's not having a bad opinion but actively harm people. How do you protect the current and at least the next 2 generations from this?
Multiculturalism was a horrible mistake, as designed. Maybe it would have worked without interference from the left but we will never know.
None of it's going to happen all at once, but over time. Frankly the Trump administration is pushing on all of those fronts, which is really excellent. (Except deflation, that's admitadly a hard ask).
The idea that in a couple of generations they will develop color blindness does not seem realistic.
It happens literally all the time and is one of the things that happens when people start living with other ethnic groups, and intermarrying.
You should take a look at some of the polling data on ethnicity. The numbers of people identifying as ethnically "American" are growing larger and larger by the day. This is because America is integrating it's populations into an American Ethnos.
You would also need to purge higher education and the entire media, no chance that will happen.
They are purging themselves as it is. Major anti-parallelism is already underway to utilize private education and homeschooling.
It's not having a bad opinion but actively harm people. How do you protect the current and at least the next 2 generations from this?
Again, anti-parallelism. Discrimination does not mean the end of your ability to function, ask the Jews. Afrikanners in South Africa and Rhodesia are currently forming entirely anti-parallel higher education systems and they are in a far worse situation than anyone in Europe or the US. American whites don't need to go as hard as them, but simply rejecting Leftist institutions as you form your own is more than enough.
Where do you shop for groceries? Wal-Mart or your local Farmer's Market? If you choose to shop at Wal-Mart, you are supporting your own destruction. I go to local, personally owned, farmer's markets and restaurants. I've literally had conversations with the owners who tell me I'm the primary source of income on several of their retail items. I'm keeping them afloat because they are my neighbors and community members. You should to. Change your economic habits to benefit the people around you and stop giving money to people who hate you. That's really all that even needs to be done. The biggest challenge is getting the government to stop stealing the money I can't save.
Oh look, Gizortnik has come to argue that Whites shouldn't defend themselves against the attacks that are being mounted against them. And he'll claim he isn't anti-White.
I'm sorry, I thought ethno-nationalist who wanted to deport black people because they are the wrong 'ethnicity' were concerned about ethnicity.
Congratulations: if you are talking about ethnic homogeneity, the length of time a people have inhabited a place is relevant. Or are you going to tell me that the Irish aren't from Ireland because they are Celtic and not the native pre-historic inhabitants of the island?
And you'd be wrong. Ethnicities tend to form around specific geographic areas. When you remove ethnicities to sufficiently different areas, they become different ethnicities. The Boer are not the Dutch. When you leave them for a sufficient length of time, they become of that place too.
A foreigner you would deport is not someone who's family has lived here for over 250 years.
Again completely irrelevant. Nothing of that contradicts his idea. The Boer are not Dutch and in theory his ethno-state would also be different, I don't think he objects to that.
Did he imply foreigner or just all the non-white ethnicities? I think he explicitly said also all the blacks, implying he does not care how long someone someone's family was in US.
Again as long as Ahmed is as much European as Fritz then the family who is here for 250 years or 10 years is irrelevant, they can be just as what ever somewhere else. In fact they can be what ever they want where ever they want.
It's completely relevant. If two populations lived 250 years apart they are going to be distinct ethnic groups, especially with intermarriage of other populations.
That is why he's wrong to assume that an ethnicity that is home in the place he is deporting them from would be a legitimate act of deportation.
This fascinates me. When did they stop being Dutch? In the play 1776, Benjamin Franklin talks about the colonists making a new race of people, deserving of a new nation. Did the Boers fell that way?
There's not going to be a singular moment, but I'd bet if anyone cited one it might be the time when the Dutch basically let them get owned by England, and then realizing that there wasn't really a home to go back to. When did the Americans become not English? What of the Australians, Canadians, or South Africans? And what of Rhodesians? Some Anglo, some were Afrikaner, and now they have no state. If Rhodesians never die, then who are they?
There's not normally a point where the people are simply cut from the parent group, but there's a slow change, and then a sudden realization that "we're not like you anymore..."
This is actually why I love "The Might of Nations". The book is genuinely trying to grapple with this concept in the 1960's when colonial empires are are letting go of their colonies, and the colonies are divided among ethnic groups, but are also trying to unify as an independent state.
There truly is something particularly special about becoming American. It really was a new race/nation of people, even if they didn't understand it while they were doing it.
So you can make sweeping generalizations about white people as a rhetorical tool based on statistical trends, but when someone else uses statistics to suggest things about nonwhite people they’re being foolish?
No but it does. You don't deport indigenous populations, you'd just be replacing them. I'm saying they have more of a right to be here than he does, assuming he's even American.
No, what you said was that he can’t really be Anglo, because he would be left-wing if he was. Hypothetically, how would you feel if a poster here said “I’m Jewish,” and someone responded with “I don’t believe you’re Jewish, because if you were you’d be left wing”? The statistics support that assumption at least as much as they support yours.
You're a liar. I said he probably isn't Anglo, not that he can't be.
I get called a dirty fucking kike that should kill myself literally every day because I point out double minus wrong-think like: Scott Adams isn't a White Nationalist.
So, I'd consider it par for the course, given the number of those people who are saying that are Qatari shills and Feds.
None the less, I doubt he's Anglo because most Anglos aren't White Nationalists, and he's probably just saying that to win an argument on the internet, like a lot of people.
So the political alignment of a group of people historically is destiny, but then just above you say that Trump is gaining ground with minority groups who have for modern history been basically pure Left voting.
You are in such a rush to call people retarded and argue you aren't even holding a consistent stance. You are better than that.
I may disagree with a lot of his views and beliefs, but I know he is capable of arguing them better than this. Instead of just blindly screaming like a nigger at any possible thing he can grab.
He's only capable of that when he's got an easily defensible position. When he knows he's wrong but can't talk his way out of it, that's when he chimps out.
So the political alignment of a group of people historically is destiny
Nope, I never said that. You're inventing an argument for me in order to claim I'm not giving you a good enough argument.
The point with the Anglos is that they are one of the only White Ethnicities he's not only gained the least ground with, but is also the group he lost ground with in 2020, and still doesn't have a majority on. I never said, "The Anglos are an inherently Leftist race incapable of voting right wing", so stop pretending I did. I said I think he's just saying he's Anglo to be disagreeable because he needs a rationalization to deport people who's families have lived in the country since before it's founding, as if there's any legitimate claim to deport such a population.
It's pretty normal for people to tell me shit that's obviously false.
You invented a position for him, from just the label of "founding stock" and then got mad at him for daring to disagree with you. So once again, hypocrisy or projection is at play.
You have no consistency here. You are just yelling wildly to always be in disagreement with people and are happy to contradict yourself if it means being opposition to them. You are better than that, and we both know it.
It's pretty normal for people to tell me shit that's obviously false.
I'M THE MAIN CHARACTER I'M THE MAIN CHARACTER
Explains a lot about why you say things like "I feel the need to say something so you don't get away with saying it unopposed" if this is the kind of self centered ego you have.
I haven't been contradictory at all. You're assuming previous arguments, not made here, that you think I make; and saying I'm contradicting those. I'm not.
You're telling me that I am physically incapable of understanding that a category tends to have a political alignment, then you see me pointing out that a category has a political alignment, and then you tell me I'm a hypocrite.
That's not hypocrisy. You're just wrong about me.
I'M THE MAIN CHARACTER
You're inventing more arguments. When someone is talking to me, that is my personal knowledge. I didn't say I'm the sole human here. It's not uncommon for people here to tell me that I say things that I don't say, believe things that I don't believe, and am things that I am not; all because it comports to what they want me to say, think, and be.
Almost 1 in 4 white gen z think it is ok to actively discriminate against whites. This is just sad, I understand they are brainwashed but this is just depressing.
As for the rest, I was expecting higher numbers. I've said it before, white people need to become tribal or we're fucked, things are just going to get worse.
Younger people tend to be more idealistic. In today's Western world, 'more idealistic' apparently translates to racism towards white people and a preferential treatment of certain minority groups.
Now where did they get these 'ideals' from? The school system, 'higher' education, the media-industrial complex, the DNC, Big Tech, Big Business -- come to mind.
Looking of similar situations regarding feminism, there is no metric where equality will happen and discrimination stops. There can be 0 white people in a company and they will never higher a white person with 0 backlash from anywhere.
The idea that this is somehow just for leveling the playing field or that immigration is just do to low birthrate are lies
You can achieve that pretty quickly. We're only truly equal in death so you just have to kill everyone. Pol Pot tried with the Khmer Rouge and managed to get about 25% of the way while western communists applauded and dreamed of doing the same.
Congratulations Gizortnik. You've done a fantastic job of information jamming this thread by responding to literally everything in a very dedicated effort to stifle any discussion that might result in Whites recognizing what's going on and subsequently forming a strategy to survive it.
To be fair, white people, especially white men, are saying that companies should hire more people like then when they say competency should be the only concern
White men have been ok with increased diversity when they thought it was organic. Only when companies started celebrating themselves for out right discrimination that they started waking up.
I wished white people would become more tribal and watch for their own interests but they are just incredibly disappointing.
Based on objective measurements of competency. Whites and especially white men out perform hispanics, blacks, and women in the vast majority of fields. The result of hiring based solely on competency would severely reduce the number of blacks, hispanics, and women for consideration in most fields.
Some white people and some men (the super-duper hitlerian deplorables) realize this and that's why they support focussing solely on competency. Most don't and beleive competency should be the focus because it is "fair" and objective.
Either way, focussing on competency is the only way to maintain a civilization and should be the only metric used. But we should be aware that it means fewer hispanics, blacks, and women will be considered for high status jobs.
I'm assuming, based on reading some of your other comments, that you missed the point of my earlier comment. What I was alluding to is that race and sex can be used to roughly predict competency and vice versa.
It is in the interest of whites and men to focus on competency because they are largely competent.
It is not in the immediate interest of hispanics and blacks to have competency based hiring policies because they are largely incompetent.
I say immediate interest because on an individual level most people want power, status, or wealth. Their immediate and selfish interest is to get jobs that will get them those things. Since blacks, hispanics, and women are largely incompetent, our civilization that produces so much power, status, and wealth, will be destroyed if too many incompetents are given jobs beyond their abilities. Which they would be able to see if they were not incompetent.
The key win here is the small increase from Millennial to Gen Z. Everyone would have predicted numbers for Gen Z would have been closer to 34%, 60%, and 60%. Leftist racialism is loosing the culture war, but still requires being attacked more aggressively and called out for what it is: Race Control polices. Or just straight Black National Socialism.
Considering that the 1st US census in 1790 lumped all the indigenous European ethnicities together as White instead of counting non-Anglos seperatly like Franklin would have wanted, clearly our founders decided such back in the late 18th century.
It's really too bad there's literally no evidence of that. The British conception of White and the initial American conception of White was the same. The British kept theirs; Americans broadened it.
No evidence, other than centuries of census records. Go ahead, point me to any year in the US census where Germans, Irish, etc were ever counted as non-Whites.
There must be some panic in your retarded little civnat brain seeing your idiotic worldview crash against the shores of this immutable reality. Warms my heart to imagine your fear.
More proof we need apartheid, and we need to remove women from any position of authority.
Apartheid because every other race has in-group preference and acts on them, only retarded Whites refuse to accept this. And remove women's authority because White women are too easy to brainwash into internalizing "racism is mean".
The choice for Whites is either be called racist now because you are doing what is necessary to save your race, or go extinct (and be called racist after you are extinct).
Whites need to understand that they are alone in this fight. No "natural conservative Latinos", no "based Blacks" and no "I love Manga Asians" will save you.
When it comes down to it, they will always prioritize their own people and interests.
There might be some based minorities in older age brackets, but it's almost bound to be a losing battle with minorities who've been perfectly spoiled and content with this warped setup, growing up with these freebies and handouts for the past 10+ years.
In the context of these specific data, it does show that most non-whites still don't agree with the idea. This seems more an issue of the constant brainwashing younger generations have received.
That said the "useless retard" group will always vote to give themselves gibz.
of course they don't agree with apartheid, they want access to whites but have their own racial spaces
That and their money. Look at what happened in New Orleans.
In group preferences is completely natural. I would argue that someone who believes race is simply skin color is the brainwashed one.
Of course it is. The brainwashing I was referring to was thinking companies should "always prioritize hiring racial minorities..."
This are just the ones that admit it. The numbers are probably way worse. Also take in to account the number that are what ever about it.
Half of the non-whites being willing to discriminate based on race against whites is about as bad as you can get. This are insane numbers. The numbers for gen-z whites would have been incredibly bad.
First, Apartheid is so retarded even Rhodesians thought it was stupid. Secondly, white people aren't a minority. Third, stop blaming entire demographics for race communism, when it's the race communism that's the problem.
Trump is literally winning an election doing the opposite of these things, and is gaining support with all the people you are trying to remove. If anyone listened to you, Nikki Haley would be the candidate and it would be a neck-and-neck race.
7% of the world isn't a minority?
73% of the United States, idiot.
We aren't talking about Arabs, jews, turks, or north Africans which are all included in "white". We are talking Europeans.
White people in the US are also older on average. Many of the whites are dying off and the percentages are getting worse.
Forgot the hispanc whites. Suddenly they are no longer the descendants of conquistadors but are now oppressed poc
So, 73%.
The most prevalent racial or ethnic group for the United States was the White alone non-Hispanic population at 57.8%. This decreased from 63.7% in 2010.
White Hispanic is a political affiliation, even according to Democrats. These are people who are white, pretending that they are Latino because their grandmother was allegedly Spanish.
There is no such thing as a Hispanic ethnicity, because there is no such thing as an ethnicity that stretches across two continents and two hemispheres.
Irrelevant, considering the de-facto open borders that are continually pushing that number down.
You being incompetent isn't irrelevant.
Weak insults do not disprove the ongoing genocide of the Kalegri plan.
Still not America, idiot.
73% is absolute high end, too. It's a bit hard to measure, but some estimates have it closer to 60%. Also, I don't think that takes the eternal eleven million into account. Which is somehow still eleven million after, what, ten to twenty million more illegals came in in the last four years? 11 + 20 = 11.
US used to be more than 90% white, around one hundred years ago.
You literally see less demographic movement in actual invasions, occupations, and imperialism. Roman and British occupations had less of a shift than that, some over longer times, too.
The whole 'whites are a majority' is just a misdirect, to distract until whites are not the majority...which they've said is their goal. And I've said before, whites are the only ones who have "X majority" countries. It's language that makes it malleable; it's a temporary status. You don't hear Asian countries called Asian majority, of African countries African/black majority countries.
It's amazing how people like you will do anything to keep people from talking about this reasonably. Whites are a global minority and, even within their own countries, are being targeted and massively demographically shrinking. This is fact, and you know this. We've never seen anything quite like it.
You haven't talked reasonably yet.
This whole thing is because I stated Whites are a majority, and Captain Retard said they were in the minority, intentionally rejecting the entire context of this post. now you're complaining, that the entire point of this survey (studying generational differences of Americans) is a re-direction because you want to talk about a completely different subject: whites as a global minority.
There's no reasoning in his reply, and there's no reasoning in yours. Stick to the fucking topic. You're not willing to hear me on anything I have to say, because you've already assumed my position.
Except, if you were being honest or had reading comprehension (I think the issue here is that you're disingenuous, not retarded), you'd admit that that wasn't my point. The opposite, in fact. I was clearly focusing primarily on countries where whites are not (at present) in the minority. So kind of the opposite.
LOL.
You wanted to talk about a different subject, that's your problem, not mine. The thread is about a Americans. Talking about whites as a global minority is a whole other topic.
There's no way whites are still 73%. There's no 'mestizo' under us census, it's either Hispanic white or Hispanic non whites for Mexicans, most brown Mexicans would pick Hispanic whites because they thought Hispanic nonwhites meant blacks/Philippinos, and brown Mexicans don't want to be associated with blacks
Non-Hispanic/non-Jewish whites (aka whites) are closer to 50% of the US population right now. It was 55%. The percentage goes down by roughly 5% every ten years according to the census, and that doesn’t even take into account all of the illegals (which are also wildly undercounted).
Gitz is a complete liar on this one. He’s basically going full “race isn’t real”.
That's the last number I'm aware of, and as I've said before, White Hispanic is made-up bullshit to reduce the number of Whites in statistics.
Hispanic white is bullshit term made up to increase white numbers to give whites a false sense of security and pin Mexican crimes on whites
It'd be one thing if it only applied to Whites of Iberian descent. But like you said, it's to classify beaner-brown Juan Rodriguez as White for nefarious purposes.
Wow, now I know you’re a complete liar. That’s not even close to being the right number. Do you compile crime stats for the fbi in your spare time?
That's the last number I have retard. Got a new one or are you just going to cry to yourself that whites have been fully replaced because you're not counting people with "one drop" again?
The stats in the post showing that among gen z more then half of blacks and almost half of hispanics are for direct racial discrimination.
Sure, not all of them but this are not negligible numbers. I've yet to hear a solution from you, clearly things are bad for white people, especially young ones and is only going to become worse with gen-z getting in to decision making.
Apartheid is clearly not going to work but at least is an idea, what do you propose?
What do you mean, you've yet to hear a solution from me? I've said it a thousand times over.
Stop funding terrorism.
The reason any of this sentiment exists is because of Leftists dedicating themselves to a media created hyper-reality where those same people think 14,000 unarmed black people are killed every year by police, a number off by 3 orders of magnitude. Devoting yourself to a different Leftist hyper-reality is also wrong.
The solution is simple, the Leftists don't produce anything, and should be defunded. That kills their activism and their hyper-reality can't be sustained.
So what needs to be done to unwind the Social Justice Racket?
Almost every single Leftist program in the west is funded by your tax dollars or your pension fund. Most of that money is being embezzled and used to fund programs and NGO's that hate you.
"But what about mass migration". Trump's already got that idea down: allow local law enforcement to support deportations. But frankly, if you start taking chunks out of just the top two items migrants will stream across the border to get out. They are only here for a couple bucks and will leave when the economy slows. They are being actively brought here. They are not coming organically. Cut funding to the NGO's and incentive programs and you'll have a better wall than a physical one. After that, enforce basic and "common-sense" immigration law. Deport any illegal that commits a crime.
"What about ethnic groups interacting with each other." See previous eras of American History. Allow people to live next to each other for a few generations without stoking race hatred and people will find and choose the amicable mean.
With everything you said that has a very low chance of happening you still need several generations and a faith in human nature that I've not yet seen.
One of the worse realizations of my adult life was that color blindness was only for white people. No other ethnicity was doing it. The idea that in a couple of generations they will develop color blindness does not seem realistic. If it was to happen it would have already happened in the 90s and early 2000s.
You would also need to purge higher education and the entire media, no chance that will happen.
It also does not resolve any of the current tensions, you have large portion of the population that are ok with discrimination against whites. It's not having a bad opinion but actively harm people. How do you protect the current and at least the next 2 generations from this?
Multiculturalism was a horrible mistake, as designed. Maybe it would have worked without interference from the left but we will never know.
None of it's going to happen all at once, but over time. Frankly the Trump administration is pushing on all of those fronts, which is really excellent. (Except deflation, that's admitadly a hard ask).
It happens literally all the time and is one of the things that happens when people start living with other ethnic groups, and intermarrying.
You should take a look at some of the polling data on ethnicity. The numbers of people identifying as ethnically "American" are growing larger and larger by the day. This is because America is integrating it's populations into an American Ethnos.
They are purging themselves as it is. Major anti-parallelism is already underway to utilize private education and homeschooling.
Again, anti-parallelism. Discrimination does not mean the end of your ability to function, ask the Jews. Afrikanners in South Africa and Rhodesia are currently forming entirely anti-parallel higher education systems and they are in a far worse situation than anyone in Europe or the US. American whites don't need to go as hard as them, but simply rejecting Leftist institutions as you form your own is more than enough.
Where do you shop for groceries? Wal-Mart or your local Farmer's Market? If you choose to shop at Wal-Mart, you are supporting your own destruction. I go to local, personally owned, farmer's markets and restaurants. I've literally had conversations with the owners who tell me I'm the primary source of income on several of their retail items. I'm keeping them afloat because they are my neighbors and community members. You should to. Change your economic habits to benefit the people around you and stop giving money to people who hate you. That's really all that even needs to be done. The biggest challenge is getting the government to stop stealing the money I can't save.
Aye it is stupid, they should be in their own lands, not here
You don't seem to understand any of the conversation.
Oh look, Gizortnik has come to argue that Whites shouldn't defend themselves against the attacks that are being mounted against them. And he'll claim he isn't anti-White.
Again, I still haven't said that.
What, that you aren't anti-White? My bad bro.
No, and I never have been. I never will be. I don't hate races, because I don't believe in race crimes.
It's all so tiresome.
Yeah we know. Deportations MUST happen. Including all blacks. ALL of them.
You're retarded. I'm willing to bet most black people have been here longer than you.
While I also think the guy you responded is wrong, "been here longer than you" is also an incredibly stupid argument.
I'm sorry, I thought ethno-nationalist who wanted to deport black people because they are the wrong 'ethnicity' were concerned about ethnicity.
Congratulations: if you are talking about ethnic homogeneity, the length of time a people have inhabited a place is relevant. Or are you going to tell me that the Irish aren't from Ireland because they are Celtic and not the native pre-historic inhabitants of the island?
I'm saying it is irrelevant.
If Ahmed is just as much European as Franz then OP has all the rights to build his ethno-state where ever he wants.
And you'd be wrong. Ethnicities tend to form around specific geographic areas. When you remove ethnicities to sufficiently different areas, they become different ethnicities. The Boer are not the Dutch. When you leave them for a sufficient length of time, they become of that place too.
A foreigner you would deport is not someone who's family has lived here for over 250 years.
Again completely irrelevant. Nothing of that contradicts his idea. The Boer are not Dutch and in theory his ethno-state would also be different, I don't think he objects to that.
Did he imply foreigner or just all the non-white ethnicities? I think he explicitly said also all the blacks, implying he does not care how long someone someone's family was in US.
Again as long as Ahmed is as much European as Fritz then the family who is here for 250 years or 10 years is irrelevant, they can be just as what ever somewhere else. In fact they can be what ever they want where ever they want.
It's completely relevant. If two populations lived 250 years apart they are going to be distinct ethnic groups, especially with intermarriage of other populations.
That is why he's wrong to assume that an ethnicity that is home in the place he is deporting them from would be a legitimate act of deportation.
This fascinates me. When did they stop being Dutch? In the play 1776, Benjamin Franklin talks about the colonists making a new race of people, deserving of a new nation. Did the Boers fell that way?
Honestly? Yes.
There's not going to be a singular moment, but I'd bet if anyone cited one it might be the time when the Dutch basically let them get owned by England, and then realizing that there wasn't really a home to go back to. When did the Americans become not English? What of the Australians, Canadians, or South Africans? And what of Rhodesians? Some Anglo, some were Afrikaner, and now they have no state. If Rhodesians never die, then who are they?
There's not normally a point where the people are simply cut from the parent group, but there's a slow change, and then a sudden realization that "we're not like you anymore..."
This is actually why I love "The Might of Nations". The book is genuinely trying to grapple with this concept in the 1960's when colonial empires are are letting go of their colonies, and the colonies are divided among ethnic groups, but are also trying to unify as an independent state.
There truly is something particularly special about becoming American. It really was a new race/nation of people, even if they didn't understand it while they were doing it.
I’m founding stock and I agree
Doubtful. Considering the political alignment of most of the settler Anglos like Angela Davis and Elizabeth Warren, you'd be voting Harris.
Anglos are the White demographic Trump has had the most difficulty with.
So you can make sweeping generalizations about white people as a rhetorical tool based on statistical trends, but when someone else uses statistics to suggest things about nonwhite people they’re being foolish?
He said deportations must happen to people who's family lineage is older than his.
I said Anglos tend to be Leftwing.
I don't see the comparison, because I'm not calling for the mass deportation of the anglos.
At no point did anyone but you bring up how long people have been around.
Above he said they must all be deported because he likely thinks they aren't compatible with a civilized society.
No part of it has to do with age, tenure, seniority, or anything like that.
No but it does. You don't deport indigenous populations, you'd just be replacing them. I'm saying they have more of a right to be here than he does, assuming he's even American.
No, what you said was that he can’t really be Anglo, because he would be left-wing if he was. Hypothetically, how would you feel if a poster here said “I’m Jewish,” and someone responded with “I don’t believe you’re Jewish, because if you were you’d be left wing”? The statistics support that assumption at least as much as they support yours.
Well, this is Giz. He
thinksclaims you can't be a leftist and a Jew simultaneously.You're a liar. I said he probably isn't Anglo, not that he can't be.
I get called a dirty fucking kike that should kill myself literally every day because I point out double minus wrong-think like: Scott Adams isn't a White Nationalist.
So, I'd consider it par for the course, given the number of those people who are saying that are Qatari shills and Feds.
None the less, I doubt he's Anglo because most Anglos aren't White Nationalists, and he's probably just saying that to win an argument on the internet, like a lot of people.
So the political alignment of a group of people historically is destiny, but then just above you say that Trump is gaining ground with minority groups who have for modern history been basically pure Left voting.
You are in such a rush to call people retarded and argue you aren't even holding a consistent stance. You are better than that.
He's really not.
I may disagree with a lot of his views and beliefs, but I know he is capable of arguing them better than this. Instead of just blindly screaming like a nigger at any possible thing he can grab.
He's only capable of that when he's got an easily defensible position. When he knows he's wrong but can't talk his way out of it, that's when he chimps out.
Race seems to be a gigantic blind spot for him.
He used to be though.
Last few years broke some people.
Nope, I never said that. You're inventing an argument for me in order to claim I'm not giving you a good enough argument.
The point with the Anglos is that they are one of the only White Ethnicities he's not only gained the least ground with, but is also the group he lost ground with in 2020, and still doesn't have a majority on. I never said, "The Anglos are an inherently Leftist race incapable of voting right wing", so stop pretending I did. I said I think he's just saying he's Anglo to be disagreeable because he needs a rationalization to deport people who's families have lived in the country since before it's founding, as if there's any legitimate claim to deport such a population.
It's pretty normal for people to tell me shit that's obviously false.
You invented a position for him, from just the label of "founding stock" and then got mad at him for daring to disagree with you. So once again, hypocrisy or projection is at play.
You have no consistency here. You are just yelling wildly to always be in disagreement with people and are happy to contradict yourself if it means being opposition to them. You are better than that, and we both know it.
Explains a lot about why you say things like "I feel the need to say something so you don't get away with saying it unopposed" if this is the kind of self centered ego you have.
Get over yourself hombre.
I haven't been contradictory at all. You're assuming previous arguments, not made here, that you think I make; and saying I'm contradicting those. I'm not.
You're telling me that I am physically incapable of understanding that a category tends to have a political alignment, then you see me pointing out that a category has a political alignment, and then you tell me I'm a hypocrite.
That's not hypocrisy. You're just wrong about me.
You're inventing more arguments. When someone is talking to me, that is my personal knowledge. I didn't say I'm the sole human here. It's not uncommon for people here to tell me that I say things that I don't say, believe things that I don't believe, and am things that I am not; all because it comports to what they want me to say, think, and be.
This is retarded, even by your standards.
Also, so ethnicity does play a part in things like political alignment now? That opens up some questions, doesn't it?
It's the Gizortnik Political Uncertainty Principle. The political leaning of an actor is unknown until he decides what it is.
They're self-reported political alignment within their self-reported ethnicity, within their answers on survey polling.
You really don't understand that information can come outside of raw assumptions about genetics, don't you?
Maybe let’s put this in EuroTrash language you understand.
“Yeah we know. Deportations MUST happen. Including all Gypsies. ALL of them.”
Almost 1 in 4 white gen z think it is ok to actively discriminate against whites. This is just sad, I understand they are brainwashed but this is just depressing.
As for the rest, I was expecting higher numbers. I've said it before, white people need to become tribal or we're fucked, things are just going to get worse.
The increase from gen x to millennial in every group was insane
Yes because that has really shown to improve things. You’ve seen what people with this mindset have done to entertainment
Not to mention civilization.
Because they've given up when it comes to teaching young people integrity and hard work.
Younger people tend to be more idealistic. In today's Western world, 'more idealistic' apparently translates to racism towards white people and a preferential treatment of certain minority groups.
Now where did they get these 'ideals' from? The school system, 'higher' education, the media-industrial complex, the DNC, Big Tech, Big Business -- come to mind.
Disturbing.
I'm not surprised by these findings. People are inherently selfish.
I assume the numbers are actually much higher for blacks and hispanics but did not want to admit it
It's just going to happen until absolutely everyone is equal in every way. How long could that possibly take guys?
Looking of similar situations regarding feminism, there is no metric where equality will happen and discrimination stops. There can be 0 white people in a company and they will never higher a white person with 0 backlash from anywhere.
The idea that this is somehow just for leveling the playing field or that immigration is just do to low birthrate are lies
You can achieve that pretty quickly. We're only truly equal in death so you just have to kill everyone. Pol Pot tried with the Khmer Rouge and managed to get about 25% of the way while western communists applauded and dreamed of doing the same.
we'll all be equal as skulls in the pile.
Bad part is that the number is 100% across all races among the HR Karens who gatekeep hiring
Why wouldn't they agree? You'd have to be retarded to respond to "should things benefit my people" with "no".
What a fuckin surprise, people love free shit and preferential treatment for themselves.
Dindus gonna dindu
The gibs are strong with gibbons.
Rational self interest in this case. Of course someone will say "I pick the thing that benefits me."
Sounds like a bunch of foreigners what need to be repatriated to their ancestral homelands and stay the fuck out of my country.
Congratulations Gizortnik. You've done a fantastic job of information jamming this thread by responding to literally everything in a very dedicated effort to stifle any discussion that might result in Whites recognizing what's going on and subsequently forming a strategy to survive it.
To be fair, white people, especially white men, are saying that companies should hire more people like then when they say competency should be the only concern
Based on what?
White men have been ok with increased diversity when they thought it was organic. Only when companies started celebrating themselves for out right discrimination that they started waking up.
I wished white people would become more tribal and watch for their own interests but they are just incredibly disappointing.
Based on objective measurements of competency. Whites and especially white men out perform hispanics, blacks, and women in the vast majority of fields. The result of hiring based solely on competency would severely reduce the number of blacks, hispanics, and women for consideration in most fields.
Some white people and some men (the super-duper hitlerian deplorables) realize this and that's why they support focussing solely on competency. Most don't and beleive competency should be the focus because it is "fair" and objective.
Either way, focussing on competency is the only way to maintain a civilization and should be the only metric used. But we should be aware that it means fewer hispanics, blacks, and women will be considered for high status jobs.
I'm assuming, based on reading some of your other comments, that you missed the point of my earlier comment. What I was alluding to is that race and sex can be used to roughly predict competency and vice versa.
It is in the interest of whites and men to focus on competency because they are largely competent.
It is not in the immediate interest of hispanics and blacks to have competency based hiring policies because they are largely incompetent.
I say immediate interest because on an individual level most people want power, status, or wealth. Their immediate and selfish interest is to get jobs that will get them those things. Since blacks, hispanics, and women are largely incompetent, our civilization that produces so much power, status, and wealth, will be destroyed if too many incompetents are given jobs beyond their abilities. Which they would be able to see if they were not incompetent.
The key win here is the small increase from Millennial to Gen Z. Everyone would have predicted numbers for Gen Z would have been closer to 34%, 60%, and 60%. Leftist racialism is loosing the culture war, but still requires being attacked more aggressively and called out for what it is: Race Control polices. Or just straight Black National Socialism.
“We’ve almost defeated human nature with civil nationalism, guys!”
"The numbers are going up in a direction that's bad for us. We're winning!"
Look, if you don't like Civic Nationalism, then fuck off to a country that isn't built on Liberalism.
Naturalization act of 1790. Read it.
When did you decide that Germans were white?
Considering that the 1st US census in 1790 lumped all the indigenous European ethnicities together as White instead of counting non-Anglos seperatly like Franklin would have wanted, clearly our founders decided such back in the late 18th century.
It's really too bad there's literally no evidence of that. The British conception of White and the initial American conception of White was the same. The British kept theirs; Americans broadened it.
No evidence, other than centuries of census records. Go ahead, point me to any year in the US census where Germans, Irish, etc were ever counted as non-Whites.
There must be some panic in your retarded little civnat brain seeing your idiotic worldview crash against the shores of this immutable reality. Warms my heart to imagine your fear.
You haven't interacted with reality yet, faggot. You're still living in your eternal race-war fantasy land.