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AmericanFellah 21 points ago +21 / -0

The Brits voted in the Tories for more than a decade, and received far more immigrants under the "conservative" party than they did under Labour.

The Italians voted in a "far right" party under Meloni, and she oversaw an increase in illegal immigration and made it easier for migrants to arrive legally.

I'm not going to pretend to know the particulars of Irish national politics but in general there's a bigger problem here than getting people to not vote for the left.

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AmericanFellah 10 points ago +10 / -0

the Irish voted for the idiots who are for mass immigration at first place

Bold of you to assume they wouldn't have gotten mass immigration no matter who they voted for.

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AmericanFellah 1 point ago +1 / -0

I didn't "bring up the Bronze Age" the Bronze Age era was already in question since we're talking about ancient Greece, which starts in the Bronze Age.

Greeks have always had higher admixture with Anatolians and other Arabic peoples. Like this pca shows

I already stated they have MENA admixture. This was never denied. Why are you stating my OWN argument at me like its a "gotcha"?

And Anatolians aren't an Arab people. Anatolian in that study doesn't mean what you think it means.That PCA chart is showing the ancient genetic lineage of modern Greeks and their distance from those ancestors. In actual fact, Ii doesn't mean what YOU think it means. Again, nothing to do with Arabs in this case.

I will restate your own argument verbatim:

the reality that they modern Greeks don’t have much genetically in common with ancient Greeks

In actual reality, stated plain as day:

Modern Greeks resemble the Mycenaeans, but with some additional dilution of the early Neolithic ancestry

QED. Take the L and move on. I'm done with you.

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AmericanFellah 3 points ago +3 / -0

Re-posting part of reply to address this

just because a certain people invade another doesn't mean they wipe out the native population or even change it much (although sometime they do). Rome for example left almost no genetic legacy in Britain despite ruling it for centuries

Also at least some of the Sea Peoples like the Achaeans/Ekwesh were themselves a Greek people

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AmericanFellah 1 point ago +1 / -0

First of all, Islam doesn't arrive anywhere in Greece until nearly two thousand years after the Bronze Age ends, so you might as well describe that as a "post Cambrian Period invasion" if you're going to be that off in time.

And the MENA admixture was already addressed. That's why on the PCA chart I linked to Greeks are slightly closer in genetic distance to modern MENA populations now compared to other European peoples.

On that note, just because a certain people invade another doesn't mean they wipe out the native population or even change it much (although sometime they do). Rome for example left almost no genetic legacy in Britain despite ruling it for centuries.

Again, modern Greeks are indeed significantly like their ancient ancestors.

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AmericanFellah 7 points ago +7 / -0

Meh

Hardly " meh" when you made this argument that, and I quote

modern Greeks don’t have much genetically in common with ancient Greeks

when we can demonstrate that in fact modern Greeks do have quite a bit with in common with ancient Greeks. Not my fault you made too strong of a statement and are being corrected on it.

nor does it account for the post Bronze Age invasion

I'm not sure what your argument is here. The Greek civilization that succeeded the Mycenaeans are largely their genetic descendants. What post Bronze Age invasion are you referring to?

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AmericanFellah 19 points ago +19 / -0

Not quite what you're talking but still in the neighborhood of Greco-Roman history is the whole Septimius Severus thing and and the black Romans stuff the BBC was pushing a few years ago

So I guess in other words just give it time and we'll see an argument for Helen being black or brown or whatever

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AmericanFellah 32 points ago +32 / -0

The OJ trial was definitely a significant racial (re-)awakening moment for many white people.

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AmericanFellah 38 points ago +40 / -2

When looking at the totality of achievements of Western science and art, Jews really aren't over-represented.

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AmericanFellah 19 points ago +19 / -0

Tell us more about the before time, in the long, long ago.

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AmericanFellah 9 points ago +9 / -0

I'll check it out only for the meme potential. It already gave us a solid one with the "What kind of American are you?" line.

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AmericanFellah 3 points ago +3 / -0

I agree regarding DDG but it's up to OP to do his research. The Mullvad browser is brand new, launched just a few months ago.

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AmericanFellah 17 points ago +17 / -0

It's not quite the evidence you're looking for but that OkCupid data that was released a few years ago showed white men to be the most contacted on that site by women of all races. Asian men and black women were the least contacted group.

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AmericanFellah 13 points ago +13 / -0

I guess 19th century white men are cool again?

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AmericanFellah 2 points ago +2 / -0

And then the Romans conquered them, converted them to Christianity, and over the next thousand years those Europeans built the most advanced civilization the world has ever seen.

I hate to be the AKSHUALLY guy but the conversion of Rome to Christianity directly precedes the Western Empire's gradual conquest by pagan barbarians.

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AmericanFellah 28 points ago +28 / -0

My understanding of what people from that time thought of "Christine Jorgensen" was that they considered him a harmless, even amusing oddity, like a monkey on roller skates.

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AmericanFellah 6 points ago +6 / -0

AoV doing his best to invoke the "I gradually began to hate them" meme in people with his antics.

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AmericanFellah 31 points ago +31 / -0

I assume the trad wives thing is just women with affluent husbands who realized they can flex on other women that they don't have to work.

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AmericanFellah 4 points ago +4 / -0

Whenever I hear libertarianism I think of this:

Applying our theory to parents and children, this means that a parent does not have the right to aggress against his children, but also that the parent should not have a legal obligation to feed, clothe, or educate his children, since such obligations would entail positive acts coerced upon the parent and depriving the parent of his rights. The parent therefore may not murder or mutilate his child, and the law properly outlaws a parent from doing so. But the parent should have the legal right not to feed the child, i.e., to allow it to die. The law, therefore, may not properly compel the parent to feed a child or to keep it alive.

-Murray Rothbard’s The Ethics of Liberty

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AmericanFellah 11 points ago +11 / -0

I consider there to be very little difference between the government, non-profits, and private business at this point. They say the same things, receive money from the same sources, and cover for each when the need arises.

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AmericanFellah 6 points ago +6 / -0

I'm cool with that as long it's okay for another company to only hire white men if the company so desires to...yes, I know she won't like that

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AmericanFellah 8 points ago +8 / -0

Not quite. PCA charts put Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews genetically between Europeans and Middle Eastern populations like Palestinians and Jordanians. In other words, they're a highly mixed group they have been endogamous for many centuries.

Culturally, they long dissociated themselves from larger European (i.e. white) society and ethnic groups. Cases in point

"Jews as whites" is rather recent phenomenon that is used very selectively by somes Jews when it suits them.

But you are correct that they are promoting their own demise in the long run via their collective decisions.

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AmericanFellah -1 points ago +3 / -4

Friend, we're discussing the same point from different angles.

No we're not.

If they want to change things because of the perpetual advancement of todayism, they'll have to change everything.

Yes they are very, very comfortable with this fact. They would readily admit this. These people have constantly said they want to change everything including the past.

If they're looking through today's lens back at the past, and found them to be progressive and woke, then it should also be fine and not require any changes.

Again, for the third time, some piece of media can be progressive for its own time and yet not progressive enough by ours. They change even the older progressive things because again, they are not progressive enough.

So they're liars, or they lie about it

Yes, but they are not lying about this. There is nothing contradictory, even in their own ideology, about this. It's even in the their name progressives. I cannot be anymore clear about this.

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