Based on my limited research, it appears that declining birthrates track almost perfectly with the rise of feminism. Backwards and oppressive third world countries seem to have no trouble reproducing, but no one is having babies in regions where women have been “liberated” from the roles of mother and wife.
One cause is that it's getting harder for men to hitch up due to the fact those who try are vulnerable to ideologically based defamation over failed pickup attempts.
All women having the option of shaming you in front of a worldwide audience for any (or no) reason, with absolutely nothing you can ever do about it, is extremely dangerous.
And then if you do end up marrying one and procreating, they can ruin you financially, steal your children, and then charge you for it. And if you refuse to pay the state sponsored extortion, you run the risk of being incarcerated.
Its also associated entirely with the rise of "comfort" levels.
People used to just pop kids out and fuck it, just make it work. They'd live with 5 kids despite barely affording to live with none. Kids would do something to help ends meet and sacrifices were abound.
Now people need a certain level of security and comfort before they consider kids and then only the amount they are certain they can handle. Its one reason why poorer people have more kids, because their level of comfort is so low that another kid won't make it any worse.
A lot of this is easily correlated with feminism, such as their demands to be let into work making the family wealth level plummet and need for external help in raising children skyrocket.
So even if women were worth something and cared about starting families, 1st world nations would still struggle to some extent. Look at Japan which has less feminism related problems (not zero, but not the same level as America/Europe) but still can't breed because of their work/money concerns.
Yeah, it's a comfort level thing. In a non-globalized world, I wouldn't be concerned about smaller family sizes or declining birth rates, but the problem is that the globo homo empire demands constant economic growth, meaning that they will do whatever it takes to sustain the growth demand, even if it means importing low IQ third worlders to replace the current population.
The economies put in place are dependent on increasing populations to sustain them, so even though smaller population sizes might be a good thing in terms of reducing pollution and maintaining structural capacity, the globo homo world order treats it as a disaster and the average person readily accepts the globo homo agenda.
While a lot of the talk for "constant growth" is entirely made up nonsense designed to take from us, there is an amount that is needed to keep up with those aforementioned comfort levels.
Society has too many needs and provisions that are more available (that need an entire supply chain and production to provide) than ages past, and we aren't breeding at a level to fully stock all of those with capable people. We progressed way too fast into technology for even a highly breeding society to keep up.
I don't think smaller population sizes are capable without either small land area (meaning supply chains are smaller and cross pollination is more possible) or a lot of regression out of technological offerings (which no one is going to do on a large scale willingly).
So we still need to pump our birth rates up to catch up to simply being able to reach those levels without importing Pajeets and Mexicans, but we aren't anywhere close to that.
As someone who works in IT, I keep preaching the mantra that technology was a mistake but everyone still thinks I'm saying it in jest. In the meantime the evidence for the truth of my belief simply continues stacking up.
Things are a lot more expensive now though, relatively speaking. I think that needs to be a consideration. You could easily feed three kids and pay a mortgage off of one income thirty years ago.
Its not wrong to take consideration. Its probably smart even. But like most things in life, people take "proper prep and consideration" as an excuse to never actually act.
Wherein before BC and other factors, people just dealt with their 5+ pop outs. And you'd be surprised at what you can make work when you don't have any other options.
Even the comparison to how cheap things were years ago are at least partially people making excuses so they never have to try. I'm raising 2 (soon 3) kids in one of the most expensive states in a house we just bought with two mid-level incomes. Something that should be impossible if you listened to most people talking about how it "used to be."
Did you know that the overwhelming majority of incels are half white or otherwise "POC"? Whites are desirable across the board - we have a 'jews opening the gates of toledo'/Weimar Republic/Economic Pickyness problem however, which can only be resolved by knowing and addressing the problem directly.
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I have a working pair of eyes, so no. Also, you couldn't pay me to stalk some ratchet ass nigger - but maybe it should happen more.
Did you know that most incels are half white or otherwise "POC"?
Out of curiosity, do you have a source for that? Desirability aside, "incel" is a mindset. I can see a lot of white people embracing it, because the culture is currently against them. Similar to how a lot of trannies are white. There's much more of a propaganda push against white people than nonwhites. Being nonwhite is fine, being white is verboten, so I can see a lot of young whites embracing defeatist mindsets like self identifying as an incel.
It's not quite the evidence you're looking for but that OkCupid data that was released a few years ago showed white men to be the most contacted on that site by women of all races. Asian men and black women were the least contacted group.
It's wild how popular white people actually are as potential partners compared to how much hate they get. Honestly, a good chunk of it is probably jealousy/envy.
It's entirely envy. Our conquests in the world actually ended up improving a lot of the places we went to, and after we left, many were unable to maintain the things we left behind, let alone surpass them.
The nonwhites in the West see the magnificent structures and cultural artifacts we have, and don't see the same in their home countries. Naturally, they feel very inferior, and lash out as a result.
r/AsianMasculinity was the original incel type sub on reddit, dating back long before the actual one and being an overall hive of seething. It was also where most of the most hateful and angry rhetoric originated that would become the meme incel points. Even the Supreme Gentlemen Elliot Rodger was a hapa, and it was a huge talking point at the time how badly being mixed fucks up a boys development.
Its also why every single /pol/ meetup or similar is the most diverse looking group of people possible.
I don't think its "most" simply because whites are still a majority in most of the English internet, so they'd make up a large portion of the bottom of the bell too, but on a relative scale I think One Drop PoCs make up a much larger percentage just based on experience.
From the brief time I looked around those guys, all of the above.
A lot of them get too deep inside their own head and have been poisoned by identity politics making them feel like they have to be part of their "tribe" whether its the white half or the non-white half, but they can't because they aren't pure enough. Sometimes they actually aren't welcome as many lightskinned blacks can attest to being alienated by both the blacks for being too white and the whites for being still black.
And sometimes they just straight up end up looking like a genetic losing case, getting none of the positives from certain halves but some of the negatives. The old AzMasc boys I know complained a lot about not getting Height from their white halves, and I've met a few "black skull with white skin" people in the past and they are fucking freaky to look at.
But, after Elliot made it basically the entire foundation of his manifesto it became a lot harder to discuss openly and so its really not brought up anymore when beforehand it was a begrudging topic in a lot of places. Its been a long time since I've read it, so I'm sparse on details but I know he fucking hated Asians almost as much as women because he was part Asian and blamed it for a lot, with a lot of anger arising from other Asians he knew somehow having girls.
There's much more of a propaganda push against white people than nonwhites.
Propaganda doesn't change women's tingles. The SMV heirarchy can't be socially manipulated as easily as the cultural hierarchy. The exception is AWFLs who are so brainwashed they want brown children to show their loyalty to the regime, but even then they mostly go for dark negros and not anyone else.
In my perusing the forums it seems like its mostly pajeets, various SE asian mud people, short white guys, and a few black nerds.
White men may be the most desirable on average, but does that mean most white men don't have problems getting dates? I'm not sure about that. It doesn't seem to track with what the white guys here say about their experiences.
It isn't so much getting a foot in the door so much as the rest, but I can see why many people here would think that you must be "Chad" to even get a chance.
Women don't need men until they've hit the wall at this point.
Sometimes I go to the incel forums to feel good about myself, vain as that is, it makes me appreciate what I have going for me.
I'm not going to act like I am "dances with incels" or nothin', but I never realized how rare it was for men to get compliments or even get paid attention to generally speaking.
That said, they themselves have an oppression hierarchy where whites are the lowest in the pecking order and are basically a failed normie unless they are a mutant or severely autistic. A great many of them are poojeets and browns who are upset that white girls don't talk to them, others are manlet half-asians or half-spics, etc.
That isn't to say that we don't face a demoralization problem because we do, but we're hardly the face of inceldom.
Pajeets are almost their own category of incel imo. Not just physically either, everything about their race is repulsive to men and women and alike. Those of them who don't basically look like goblins are more or less black or Arab, with the bad behavioral qualities of both.
Somebody posted this awhile ago, but it's a good reminder of why feminism was pushed in the first place. "Divide and conquer" is a truly ancient strategy.
Who stalks black people on the internet... And yeah I am sure we will fix declining birthrates with NEETs in first world countries where even women with a top 5% man maybe get 2 kids at most.
Maybe easier to introduce fault divorce again. Maybe then men are more inclined to marry and make kids if they have something to lose just because the woman isnt feeling the "magic" of being treated like a princess anymore.
Based on my limited research, it appears that declining birthrates track almost perfectly with the rise of feminism. Backwards and oppressive third world countries seem to have no trouble reproducing, but no one is having babies in regions where women have been “liberated” from the roles of mother and wife.
“Feminism = death cult” confirmed.
Women in the workplace and birth control yes.
One cause is that it's getting harder for men to hitch up due to the fact those who try are vulnerable to ideologically based defamation over failed pickup attempts.
All women having the option of shaming you in front of a worldwide audience for any (or no) reason, with absolutely nothing you can ever do about it, is extremely dangerous.
And then if you do end up marrying one and procreating, they can ruin you financially, steal your children, and then charge you for it. And if you refuse to pay the state sponsored extortion, you run the risk of being incarcerated.
Its also associated entirely with the rise of "comfort" levels.
People used to just pop kids out and fuck it, just make it work. They'd live with 5 kids despite barely affording to live with none. Kids would do something to help ends meet and sacrifices were abound.
Now people need a certain level of security and comfort before they consider kids and then only the amount they are certain they can handle. Its one reason why poorer people have more kids, because their level of comfort is so low that another kid won't make it any worse.
A lot of this is easily correlated with feminism, such as their demands to be let into work making the family wealth level plummet and need for external help in raising children skyrocket.
So even if women were worth something and cared about starting families, 1st world nations would still struggle to some extent. Look at Japan which has less feminism related problems (not zero, but not the same level as America/Europe) but still can't breed because of their work/money concerns.
Yeah, it's a comfort level thing. In a non-globalized world, I wouldn't be concerned about smaller family sizes or declining birth rates, but the problem is that the globo homo empire demands constant economic growth, meaning that they will do whatever it takes to sustain the growth demand, even if it means importing low IQ third worlders to replace the current population. The economies put in place are dependent on increasing populations to sustain them, so even though smaller population sizes might be a good thing in terms of reducing pollution and maintaining structural capacity, the globo homo world order treats it as a disaster and the average person readily accepts the globo homo agenda.
While a lot of the talk for "constant growth" is entirely made up nonsense designed to take from us, there is an amount that is needed to keep up with those aforementioned comfort levels.
Society has too many needs and provisions that are more available (that need an entire supply chain and production to provide) than ages past, and we aren't breeding at a level to fully stock all of those with capable people. We progressed way too fast into technology for even a highly breeding society to keep up.
I don't think smaller population sizes are capable without either small land area (meaning supply chains are smaller and cross pollination is more possible) or a lot of regression out of technological offerings (which no one is going to do on a large scale willingly).
So we still need to pump our birth rates up to catch up to simply being able to reach those levels without importing Pajeets and Mexicans, but we aren't anywhere close to that.
As someone who works in IT, I keep preaching the mantra that technology was a mistake but everyone still thinks I'm saying it in jest. In the meantime the evidence for the truth of my belief simply continues stacking up.
Nah, it's containers
Things are a lot more expensive now though, relatively speaking. I think that needs to be a consideration. You could easily feed three kids and pay a mortgage off of one income thirty years ago.
Its not wrong to take consideration. Its probably smart even. But like most things in life, people take "proper prep and consideration" as an excuse to never actually act.
Wherein before BC and other factors, people just dealt with their 5+ pop outs. And you'd be surprised at what you can make work when you don't have any other options.
Even the comparison to how cheap things were years ago are at least partially people making excuses so they never have to try. I'm raising 2 (soon 3) kids in one of the most expensive states in a house we just bought with two mid-level incomes. Something that should be impossible if you listened to most people talking about how it "used to be."
Turns out, if you oppress women your civilization survives because it reproduces itself. If you liberate women your civilization collapses.
There are some exceedingly obvious conclusions to draw from this, but society will unperson you if you come out and state them plainly.
Federal powers too; Turns out crushing the normies with debt and taxes means they no longer feel financially secure enough to have children.
On the flipside subsidize those unable to work ....
No wonder they shot JFK, they wanted us to arrive here, and usher in a commie revolution
Even while drawing the man as an inbred mutant, they gaslight you with "learn to talk to women".
the women who would repeat this comic don't want children anyway.
"shut up virgin" for modern audiences. The bullies of yesteryear are the still the bullies of today, they just changed targets.
Its always vague "learn to talk to women" as if its just a thing you need to do and its successful.
And they wonder why guys like that get the idea of "kindness is a coin you put in and get sex in return!"
That's all it takes for them so why would they think it's any harder for you? All they have to do is say yes.
That seems extravagant, their own words says that only words should be required haha.
Did you know that the overwhelming majority of incels are half white or otherwise "POC"? Whites are desirable across the board - we have a 'jews opening the gates of toledo'/Weimar Republic/Economic Pickyness problem however, which can only be resolved by knowing and addressing the problem directly.
I have a working pair of eyes, so no. Also, you couldn't pay me to stalk some ratchet ass nigger - but maybe it should happen more.
Out of curiosity, do you have a source for that? Desirability aside, "incel" is a mindset. I can see a lot of white people embracing it, because the culture is currently against them. Similar to how a lot of trannies are white. There's much more of a propaganda push against white people than nonwhites. Being nonwhite is fine, being white is verboten, so I can see a lot of young whites embracing defeatist mindsets like self identifying as an incel.
It's not quite the evidence you're looking for but that OkCupid data that was released a few years ago showed white men to be the most contacted on that site by women of all races. Asian men and black women were the least contacted group.
It's wild how popular white people actually are as potential partners compared to how much hate they get. Honestly, a good chunk of it is probably jealousy/envy.
It's entirely envy. Our conquests in the world actually ended up improving a lot of the places we went to, and after we left, many were unable to maintain the things we left behind, let alone surpass them.
The nonwhites in the West see the magnificent structures and cultural artifacts we have, and don't see the same in their home countries. Naturally, they feel very inferior, and lash out as a result.
Black men and white women were the second most undesirable. Lots of bitching from those studies from everyone at the bottom.
r/AsianMasculinity was the original incel type sub on reddit, dating back long before the actual one and being an overall hive of seething. It was also where most of the most hateful and angry rhetoric originated that would become the meme incel points. Even the Supreme Gentlemen Elliot Rodger was a hapa, and it was a huge talking point at the time how badly being mixed fucks up a boys development.
Its also why every single /pol/ meetup or similar is the most diverse looking group of people possible.
I don't think its "most" simply because whites are still a majority in most of the English internet, so they'd make up a large portion of the bottom of the bell too, but on a relative scale I think One Drop PoCs make up a much larger percentage just based on experience.
From the brief time I looked around those guys, all of the above.
A lot of them get too deep inside their own head and have been poisoned by identity politics making them feel like they have to be part of their "tribe" whether its the white half or the non-white half, but they can't because they aren't pure enough. Sometimes they actually aren't welcome as many lightskinned blacks can attest to being alienated by both the blacks for being too white and the whites for being still black.
And sometimes they just straight up end up looking like a genetic losing case, getting none of the positives from certain halves but some of the negatives. The old AzMasc boys I know complained a lot about not getting Height from their white halves, and I've met a few "black skull with white skin" people in the past and they are fucking freaky to look at.
But, after Elliot made it basically the entire foundation of his manifesto it became a lot harder to discuss openly and so its really not brought up anymore when beforehand it was a begrudging topic in a lot of places. Its been a long time since I've read it, so I'm sparse on details but I know he fucking hated Asians almost as much as women because he was part Asian and blamed it for a lot, with a lot of anger arising from other Asians he knew somehow having girls.
Propaganda doesn't change women's tingles. The SMV heirarchy can't be socially manipulated as easily as the cultural hierarchy. The exception is AWFLs who are so brainwashed they want brown children to show their loyalty to the regime, but even then they mostly go for dark negros and not anyone else.
In my perusing the forums it seems like its mostly pajeets, various SE asian mud people, short white guys, and a few black nerds.
White men may be the most desirable on average, but does that mean most white men don't have problems getting dates? I'm not sure about that. It doesn't seem to track with what the white guys here say about their experiences.
It isn't so much getting a foot in the door so much as the rest, but I can see why many people here would think that you must be "Chad" to even get a chance.
Women don't need men until they've hit the wall at this point.
Sometimes I go to the incel forums to feel good about myself, vain as that is, it makes me appreciate what I have going for me.
I'm not going to act like I am "dances with incels" or nothin', but I never realized how rare it was for men to get compliments or even get paid attention to generally speaking.
That said, they themselves have an oppression hierarchy where whites are the lowest in the pecking order and are basically a failed normie unless they are a mutant or severely autistic. A great many of them are poojeets and browns who are upset that white girls don't talk to them, others are manlet half-asians or half-spics, etc.
That isn't to say that we don't face a demoralization problem because we do, but we're hardly the face of inceldom.
Pajeets are almost their own category of incel imo. Not just physically either, everything about their race is repulsive to men and women and alike. Those of them who don't basically look like goblins are more or less black or Arab, with the bad behavioral qualities of both.
Nobody dances with incels, that's the problem.
There's a large Asian contingent at least. They spend half their day complaining that their own women prefer white Chad.
Maybe women can learn how to talk to men.
Somebody posted this awhile ago, but it's a good reminder of why feminism was pushed in the first place. "Divide and conquer" is a truly ancient strategy.
https://archive.is/c9MGj
There's also this old thing, from the United Nations.
https://archive.is/https://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/publications/ageing/replacement-migration.asp
They know all about declining birthrates and it's not a side effect of feminism, it's one of the main reasons for pushing that shit.
nobody's stalking black people. We're stalking marxists who keep subverting culture.
Women are the problem.
Who stalks black people on the internet... And yeah I am sure we will fix declining birthrates with NEETs in first world countries where even women with a top 5% man maybe get 2 kids at most.
Maybe easier to introduce fault divorce again. Maybe then men are more inclined to marry and make kids if they have something to lose just because the woman isnt feeling the "magic" of being treated like a princess anymore.
These people are literally Satanic and need eradicating. They are not bumpling idiots.
The only difference between conspiracy theory and reality is time.
Can we stop saying "conspiracy theory" and start saying "spoilers"?
Four kids and counting, faggots. My will is the future, because I've showed up to take it.