Did you know that most incels are half white or otherwise "POC"?
Out of curiosity, do you have a source for that? Desirability aside, "incel" is a mindset. I can see a lot of white people embracing it, because the culture is currently against them. Similar to how a lot of trannies are white. There's much more of a propaganda push against white people than nonwhites. Being nonwhite is fine, being white is verboten, so I can see a lot of young whites embracing defeatist mindsets like self identifying as an incel.
It's not quite the evidence you're looking for but that OkCupid data that was released a few years ago showed white men to be the most contacted on that site by women of all races. Asian men and black women were the least contacted group.
It's wild how popular white people actually are as potential partners compared to how much hate they get. Honestly, a good chunk of it is probably jealousy/envy.
It's entirely envy. Our conquests in the world actually ended up improving a lot of the places we went to, and after we left, many were unable to maintain the things we left behind, let alone surpass them.
The nonwhites in the West see the magnificent structures and cultural artifacts we have, and don't see the same in their home countries. Naturally, they feel very inferior, and lash out as a result.
r/AsianMasculinity was the original incel type sub on reddit, dating back long before the actual one and being an overall hive of seething. It was also where most of the most hateful and angry rhetoric originated that would become the meme incel points. Even the Supreme Gentlemen Elliot Rodger was a hapa, and it was a huge talking point at the time how badly being mixed fucks up a boys development.
Its also why every single /pol/ meetup or similar is the most diverse looking group of people possible.
I don't think its "most" simply because whites are still a majority in most of the English internet, so they'd make up a large portion of the bottom of the bell too, but on a relative scale I think One Drop PoCs make up a much larger percentage just based on experience.
From the brief time I looked around those guys, all of the above.
A lot of them get too deep inside their own head and have been poisoned by identity politics making them feel like they have to be part of their "tribe" whether its the white half or the non-white half, but they can't because they aren't pure enough. Sometimes they actually aren't welcome as many lightskinned blacks can attest to being alienated by both the blacks for being too white and the whites for being still black.
And sometimes they just straight up end up looking like a genetic losing case, getting none of the positives from certain halves but some of the negatives. The old AzMasc boys I know complained a lot about not getting Height from their white halves, and I've met a few "black skull with white skin" people in the past and they are fucking freaky to look at.
But, after Elliot made it basically the entire foundation of his manifesto it became a lot harder to discuss openly and so its really not brought up anymore when beforehand it was a begrudging topic in a lot of places. Its been a long time since I've read it, so I'm sparse on details but I know he fucking hated Asians almost as much as women because he was part Asian and blamed it for a lot, with a lot of anger arising from other Asians he knew somehow having girls.
There's much more of a propaganda push against white people than nonwhites.
Propaganda doesn't change women's tingles. The SMV heirarchy can't be socially manipulated as easily as the cultural hierarchy. The exception is AWFLs who are so brainwashed they want brown children to show their loyalty to the regime, but even then they mostly go for dark negros and not anyone else.
In my perusing the forums it seems like its mostly pajeets, various SE asian mud people, short white guys, and a few black nerds.
White men may be the most desirable on average, but does that mean most white men don't have problems getting dates? I'm not sure about that. It doesn't seem to track with what the white guys here say about their experiences.
It isn't so much getting a foot in the door so much as the rest, but I can see why many people here would think that you must be "Chad" to even get a chance.
Women don't need men until they've hit the wall at this point.
Sometimes I go to the incel forums to feel good about myself, vain as that is, it makes me appreciate what I have going for me.
I'm not going to act like I am "dances with incels" or nothin', but I never realized how rare it was for men to get compliments or even get paid attention to generally speaking.
That said, they themselves have an oppression hierarchy where whites are the lowest in the pecking order and are basically a failed normie unless they are a mutant or severely autistic. A great many of them are poojeets and browns who are upset that white girls don't talk to them, others are manlet half-asians or half-spics, etc.
That isn't to say that we don't face a demoralization problem because we do, but we're hardly the face of inceldom.
Pajeets are almost their own category of incel imo. Not just physically either, everything about their race is repulsive to men and women and alike. Those of them who don't basically look like goblins are more or less black or Arab, with the bad behavioral qualities of both.
Out of curiosity, do you have a source for that? Desirability aside, "incel" is a mindset. I can see a lot of white people embracing it, because the culture is currently against them. Similar to how a lot of trannies are white. There's much more of a propaganda push against white people than nonwhites. Being nonwhite is fine, being white is verboten, so I can see a lot of young whites embracing defeatist mindsets like self identifying as an incel.
It's not quite the evidence you're looking for but that OkCupid data that was released a few years ago showed white men to be the most contacted on that site by women of all races. Asian men and black women were the least contacted group.
It's wild how popular white people actually are as potential partners compared to how much hate they get. Honestly, a good chunk of it is probably jealousy/envy.
It's entirely envy. Our conquests in the world actually ended up improving a lot of the places we went to, and after we left, many were unable to maintain the things we left behind, let alone surpass them.
The nonwhites in the West see the magnificent structures and cultural artifacts we have, and don't see the same in their home countries. Naturally, they feel very inferior, and lash out as a result.
Black men and white women were the second most undesirable. Lots of bitching from those studies from everyone at the bottom.
r/AsianMasculinity was the original incel type sub on reddit, dating back long before the actual one and being an overall hive of seething. It was also where most of the most hateful and angry rhetoric originated that would become the meme incel points. Even the Supreme Gentlemen Elliot Rodger was a hapa, and it was a huge talking point at the time how badly being mixed fucks up a boys development.
Its also why every single /pol/ meetup or similar is the most diverse looking group of people possible.
I don't think its "most" simply because whites are still a majority in most of the English internet, so they'd make up a large portion of the bottom of the bell too, but on a relative scale I think One Drop PoCs make up a much larger percentage just based on experience.
From the brief time I looked around those guys, all of the above.
A lot of them get too deep inside their own head and have been poisoned by identity politics making them feel like they have to be part of their "tribe" whether its the white half or the non-white half, but they can't because they aren't pure enough. Sometimes they actually aren't welcome as many lightskinned blacks can attest to being alienated by both the blacks for being too white and the whites for being still black.
And sometimes they just straight up end up looking like a genetic losing case, getting none of the positives from certain halves but some of the negatives. The old AzMasc boys I know complained a lot about not getting Height from their white halves, and I've met a few "black skull with white skin" people in the past and they are fucking freaky to look at.
But, after Elliot made it basically the entire foundation of his manifesto it became a lot harder to discuss openly and so its really not brought up anymore when beforehand it was a begrudging topic in a lot of places. Its been a long time since I've read it, so I'm sparse on details but I know he fucking hated Asians almost as much as women because he was part Asian and blamed it for a lot, with a lot of anger arising from other Asians he knew somehow having girls.
Propaganda doesn't change women's tingles. The SMV heirarchy can't be socially manipulated as easily as the cultural hierarchy. The exception is AWFLs who are so brainwashed they want brown children to show their loyalty to the regime, but even then they mostly go for dark negros and not anyone else.
In my perusing the forums it seems like its mostly pajeets, various SE asian mud people, short white guys, and a few black nerds.
White men may be the most desirable on average, but does that mean most white men don't have problems getting dates? I'm not sure about that. It doesn't seem to track with what the white guys here say about their experiences.
It isn't so much getting a foot in the door so much as the rest, but I can see why many people here would think that you must be "Chad" to even get a chance.
Women don't need men until they've hit the wall at this point.
Sometimes I go to the incel forums to feel good about myself, vain as that is, it makes me appreciate what I have going for me.
I'm not going to act like I am "dances with incels" or nothin', but I never realized how rare it was for men to get compliments or even get paid attention to generally speaking.
That said, they themselves have an oppression hierarchy where whites are the lowest in the pecking order and are basically a failed normie unless they are a mutant or severely autistic. A great many of them are poojeets and browns who are upset that white girls don't talk to them, others are manlet half-asians or half-spics, etc.
That isn't to say that we don't face a demoralization problem because we do, but we're hardly the face of inceldom.
Pajeets are almost their own category of incel imo. Not just physically either, everything about their race is repulsive to men and women and alike. Those of them who don't basically look like goblins are more or less black or Arab, with the bad behavioral qualities of both.
Nobody dances with incels, that's the problem.
There's a large Asian contingent at least. They spend half their day complaining that their own women prefer white Chad.