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Pompeii (where the skin of the people is WHITE) (www.dailymail.co.uk)
posted 2 years ago by jokkeno 2 years ago by jokkeno +52 / -0
Incredible fresco of Helen of Troy is uncovered at Pompeii
Archeologists uncovered the remarkably preserved 'fresco' painting on a wall at a former private residence along Via di Nola, one of Pompeii's longest streets.
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– AmericanFellah 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

the reality that they modern Greeks don’t have much genetically in common with ancient Greeks

That's not quite right. Modern Greeks have strong genetic continuity from their ancient ancestors going all the way back to the Mycenaean period, but they do have some foreign admixture from MENA peoples

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– Ahaus667 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Meh the first study admits it’s only a 62-80% adherence and “ This is due to the fact that Neolithic farmers share fewer alleles with Modern Greeks than with Mycenaeans” the graph shows Crete is more genetically related to ancient greeks, nor does it account for the post Bronze Age invasion.

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– AmericanFellah 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Meh

Hardly " meh" when you made this argument that, and I quote

modern Greeks don’t have much genetically in common with ancient Greeks

when we can demonstrate that in fact modern Greeks do have quite a bit with in common with ancient Greeks. Not my fault you made too strong of a statement and are being corrected on it.

nor does it account for the post Bronze Age invasion

I'm not sure what your argument is here. The Greek civilization that succeeded the Mycenaeans are largely their genetic descendants. What post Bronze Age invasion are you referring to?

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– LastRights 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The Sea Peoples.

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– AmericanFellah 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Re-posting part of reply to address this

just because a certain people invade another doesn't mean they wipe out the native population or even change it much (although sometime they do). Rome for example left almost no genetic legacy in Britain despite ruling it for centuries

Also at least some of the Sea Peoples like the Achaeans/Ekwesh were themselves a Greek people

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– Ahaus667 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The Islamic incursion on Greece lol

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– AmericanFellah 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

First of all, Islam doesn't arrive anywhere in Greece until nearly two thousand years after the Bronze Age ends, so you might as well describe that as a "post Cambrian Period invasion" if you're going to be that off in time.

And the MENA admixture was already addressed. That's why on the PCA chart I linked to Greeks are slightly closer in genetic distance to modern MENA populations now compared to other European peoples.

On that note, just because a certain people invade another doesn't mean they wipe out the native population or even change it much (although sometime they do). Rome for example left almost no genetic legacy in Britain despite ruling it for centuries.

Again, modern Greeks are indeed significantly like their ancient ancestors.

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