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51% of Black GenZ respondents and 47% of Hispanic GenZ respondents agreed that "companies should always prioritize hiring racial minorities before hiring white people." (twitter.com)
posted 192 days ago by SophiesBoyfriend 192 days ago by SophiesBoyfriend +128 / -3
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– Galean 8 points 192 days ago +8 / -0

I'm saying it is irrelevant.

If Ahmed is just as much European as Franz then OP has all the rights to build his ethno-state where ever he wants.

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– Gizortnik -10 points 192 days ago +1 / -11

And you'd be wrong. Ethnicities tend to form around specific geographic areas. When you remove ethnicities to sufficiently different areas, they become different ethnicities. The Boer are not the Dutch. When you leave them for a sufficient length of time, they become of that place too.

A foreigner you would deport is not someone who's family has lived here for over 250 years.

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– Galean 8 points 192 days ago +8 / -0

Again completely irrelevant. Nothing of that contradicts his idea. The Boer are not Dutch and in theory his ethno-state would also be different, I don't think he objects to that.

Did he imply foreigner or just all the non-white ethnicities? I think he explicitly said also all the blacks, implying he does not care how long someone someone's family was in US.

Again as long as Ahmed is as much European as Fritz then the family who is here for 250 years or 10 years is irrelevant, they can be just as what ever somewhere else. In fact they can be what ever they want where ever they want.

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– Gizortnik -6 points 192 days ago +1 / -7

It's completely relevant. If two populations lived 250 years apart they are going to be distinct ethnic groups, especially with intermarriage of other populations.

That is why he's wrong to assume that an ethnicity that is home in the place he is deporting them from would be a legitimate act of deportation.

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– Galean 5 points 192 days ago +5 / -0

So your issue is that he should name it something other than deportation? Would exile work for you?

I doubt anyone cares how you name it.

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– Mpetey123 5 points 192 days ago +5 / -0

The Boer are not the Dutch

This fascinates me. When did they stop being Dutch? In the play 1776, Benjamin Franklin talks about the colonists making a new race of people, deserving of a new nation. Did the Boers fell that way?

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– Gizortnik -2 points 192 days ago +2 / -4

Honestly? Yes.

There's not going to be a singular moment, but I'd bet if anyone cited one it might be the time when the Dutch basically let them get owned by England, and then realizing that there wasn't really a home to go back to. When did the Americans become not English? What of the Australians, Canadians, or South Africans? And what of Rhodesians? Some Anglo, some were Afrikaner, and now they have no state. If Rhodesians never die, then who are they?

There's not normally a point where the people are simply cut from the parent group, but there's a slow change, and then a sudden realization that "we're not like you anymore..."

This is actually why I love "The Might of Nations". The book is genuinely trying to grapple with this concept in the 1960's when colonial empires are are letting go of their colonies, and the colonies are divided among ethnic groups, but are also trying to unify as an independent state.

There truly is something particularly special about becoming American. It really was a new race/nation of people, even if they didn't understand it while they were doing it.

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