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They just can’t help themselves (media.scored.co)
posted 1 year ago by Ahaus667 1 year ago by Ahaus667 +120 / -0
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– Ahaus667 [S] 60 points 1 year ago +60 / -0

https://archive.ph/tR3PT

TL:DR: bunch of “we don’t know why people are getting dumber, maybe iq tests bad, could be pollution/diet or phone screens!”. No mention of mass importation of lower iq people, the dissolution of the two parent households or rampant loss of objective based education, on and on.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 30 points 1 year ago +30 / -0

pollution/diet or phone screens

I'm 100% convinced that these contribute to the issue. our diet is so shit compared to even 50 years ago, and the newer generations are growing up with all the shit chemical filled food that we have. as for phone screens, the level of instant gratification that we have today is off the charts compared to even 10 years ago. Critical thinking is no longer a requirement for functioning in this world, and I guarantee we are seeing the downstream effects.

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– Adamrises 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

IQ is and has always been mostly Genetic, so neither of those would effect that much. There almost certainly give people brain damage/not fully formed brains or turn them into drooling retards, but that is a separate type of idiocy than pure IQ even if the test measuring it cannot tell the difference.

The difference between someone who is genetically just a lanky boy being unable to gain much muscle, and someone who has a medical issue that prevents them from doing the lifts to gain muscle.

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– subbookkeeper 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

80% genetic isn't it? Primarily from the Mother. And what smart Women are having children these days?

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– deleted 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0
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– Kienan 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

That's a good point. I was already onboard the 'diet/pollution' element, and I know screens can be bad, but hadn't really thought about it specifically in the IQ sense.

Not sure if phones make you dumber, at least in the way most people think of, but they do reduce certain elements like you said, like critical thinking. Which would absolutely reflect on IQ test results.

I'd also throw (over)vaccination into the mix. The whole 'autism' thing is used as a scapegoat (whether or not there's some truth there), but I think it's fair to say that the massive increase in childhood vaccines are at least possibly causing adverse effects. It's insane that they don't want to talk about even that, when I phrased it in the most vague and lukewarm way I could.

Whatever is causing people to be dumber, it's at least not completely natural, which means it's - intentionally or otherwise - being done to us. So being told it's a good thing by people who side with the people likely behind the act, just makes it even more clear that it's not a good thing.

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– subbookkeeper 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Aluminium is neurotoxic and is the primary adjuvant in vaccines.

There are guidelines for intravenous use of medications that state aluminium is to be limited to 5mg per kg of bodyweight. Then immediately below that say they're fine in vaccines.

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– Vicious_snek6 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

worse, I'm seeing 1-2mg recs from Germany, and directly below they refer tp it being fine, citing places like the Paul Ehrich institute.

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– Kienan 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Then immediately below that say they're fine in vaccines.

Of course they do. :(

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– Knife-TotingRat 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Well, except for the hard morphology genes ("make this bone bone-shaped"), genes tend to code for potentialities/ranges. Height is probably the most common physical example: Your genes say you have the potential to grow to be between 5'5" and 5'10", say. No matter how bad your diet is, you'll be at least 5'5", and no matter how great your diet and exercise is, you'll never be over six feet tall.

Same for IQ; some people simply won't ever be good at learning in and of itself, or retaining what's learned, or understanding what it is they were supposed to have learned. Others could be good at it, but they've been inhibited somehow (diet, distractions, not being taught how to think/learn/apply what's learned, are domesticated/institutionalized and don't need to think or shift for themselves.)

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– Ender910 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I imagine that access to the Internet in general has, at least to some extent, had some impact on self reliability with regards to problem solving.

Instead of thinking through possible solutions to try or doing your own research/investigation, it's almost always easier to just run a search to find out how to address things.

Not that I'd say it's a one sided trade-off, because honestly there does come a point to where trying to figure out and investigate everything yourself does become a tedious mess, but it might still come with some price.

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– Ahaus667 [S] 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Contribute sure, they don’t account for college graduates losing a full standard deviation of IQ in 50 years. It takes advanced starvation to lose a standard deviation, by most accounts social factors can change it about ~4-5 points.

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– SR388-SAX 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Well a decrease in college graduates' average IQ is easily explained by colleges letting basically everybody in.

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– current_horror 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

The dumber college graduate thing is a function of exponentially more people going to college plus reduced standards (to sell more useless 200k degrees). It’s basically an open scam at this point.

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– Dereliction 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

It's propaganda, plain and simple. Defeating it requires truthful counter-narratives that competes with it. Fatherly.com gets around 3 million viewers a month and is ranked 14th (for "Dad blogs") by Feedspot. It's considered a "moderate conservative" site, if you can believe it.

Imagine if someone built a successful alternative with the more valuable insights. The Left would lose its mind, of course, but the narratives they have would be dented.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

good lad

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– PraiseBeToScience 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

This is the "Board Meeting" meme except the last guy is the Burger King Guy with the correct answer.

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– TheStupidPrizeWinner 33 points 1 year ago +33 / -0

multiple women, including a black woman focused and in front, pictured

...what are you trying to say here, Kristi?

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– Knife-TotingRat 23 points 1 year ago +23 / -0

Of course, they can't let themselves connect high IQ with building and maintaining a high-tech, civilized society ....

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– Ahaus667 [S] 18 points 1 year ago +18 / -0

Or the loss of IQ with our suicidal “altruism”

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– Adamrises 22 points 1 year ago +22 / -0

The IQ scale is restandardized every few decades to keep the mean at 100. This is because for as stupid as it seems people are right now, the average IQ in Western White populations has been jumping every generation and most people today might qualify as geniuses during the original tests.

It seems people are a lot dumber right now, but that's because the sheer level of information being given to us and then forced to be dealt with has our brains consistently burning out (especially people with dopamine chasing addictions). Which makes us far easier to manipulate and much more automated in our thinking. The constant bombardment from every angle in every single day from the moment we can talk and read has us stretched far too thin and taught us that we must constantly rely on our subconscious snap decisions for most thoughts (for example, this is how stereotypes are created and maintained). Industrial Society and its Consequences, and all that.

What makes that interesting, is that most non-white populations have not been growing, and have been either stagnant (meaning they drop when the restandardization happens) or actually dropping. Which is what is causing this effect, the immigrants and certain PoCs are so clinically retarded that they are negating any upward mobility the rest of us might have.

The cutoff for being literally mentally retarded is 75, most of Sub-Saharan Africa and Central America is in the 50s and 60s. Entire nations with profound retardation that are allowed full existences without any restriction. North Africa, South America and the Middle east are in the low 80s, meaning they are just barely above being classified as retarded themselves.

Now imagine massive unchecked immigration from those nations being brought into our country, and then allowed to interbreed (IQ is hugely genetic) or assimilate (meaning standards lowered to accommodate them as the norm). It'll destroy anything.

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– MargarineMongoose 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Animals that can speak.

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– Knife-TotingRat 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Neanderthals had a fully human voicebox setup, too.

I totally suspect that the clicking that Bushmen use is a communicatory relic, a holdover from an ancestor that couldn't make modern-human phonemes, and so communicated in other ways.

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– smokeypanda 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

A separate study instead used reaction time as a proxy for intelligence, and iirc showed that well-off Victorian English were more intelligent than what we have today. I'd have to hunt down the video I watched or article I read, or better yet find the sourced paper again.

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– Adamrises 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I don't know if I agree that reaction time is a proxy for intelligence. One kind, yes, but not the whole picture.

Sports players have incredibly high reaction times, much higher than most of us. But nobody should be saying Kobe is a highly intelligent man.

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– Isolated_Patriot 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

You're thinking physical reaction times, not mental.

If I asked you and Kobe to solve 87 * 22 / 2, odds are pretty high you will trounce him in reaction time. And if not, well you might have to reevaluate how intelligent Kobe is.

This is normally taken into account in clinical IQ tests, as those who answer the questions quickly will score higher. It doesn't play a roll in standardised online tests.

The difference between an IQ of 160 and 190 is usually going to come down to reaction time, not individual levels of subject knowledge. It's reasonable to think it is a likely sole indicator, but it's pretty hard to measure accurately without the rest of the test.

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– Adamrises 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I wouldn't even consider online tests worth the space to do them, so I didn't even consider it.

That's a fair perspective though I hadn't thought through when I responded.

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– cccpneveragain 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

The only thing I question about IQ is often these journalists and the intelligentsia claim to have a high IQ as one of the reasons we should listen to them. Yet, they are idiots. So, is the metric broken, are they lying about their IQ, or do they really have a high IQ and are just manipulating us?

There's no doubt general intelligence is on the decline. Outside of dumbing down the gene pool, I think of what is left, a lot of it stems from a lack of learning to apply intelligence though. My cousin is like this, he's intelligent, I can tell he's intelligent, but he has zero patience to seek a solution. If the problem is not solved in five minutes by the first thing he tries, usually being at best the first search result he finds, he's done with it. Every time I've pushed him to slow down, use his head, and actually think how things work and how to solve the problem on his own, he figures it out. It's a product of the phone generation, everything is just presented to them. They don't ever stop and think.

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– GamingTheSystem-01 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

>these journalists and the intelligentsia claim to have a high IQ

In the industry this is known as a "lie".

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– Ahaus667 [S] 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

Well if it helps, the more liberal academia became the lower the iq of the graduates became. We have a full standard deviation lower iq students graduating with a bachelor’s today versus in 1970.

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– Assassin47 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Even if they have a slightly higher IQ than the general population, it isn't much of a brag when the overall population's IQ has been dropping. The midwits leading the blind.

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– rebuildingMyself 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

What is intelligence, really. It's pattern recognition and ability to process, organize and recall information you receive. But it's really at the mercy of the information coming in. Like how AI models become woke because of the idiots curating the training data.

You can be smart but if the information sources you depend on are nothing but government or woke propaganda, you'll just be better at absorbing garbage than the average NPC. It's why infecting the schools and colleges was so important to Marxists and also why the trannies just HAVE to groom children.

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– Deceitful_Fox 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I don't know, I think IQ also has something to do with intellectual curiosity and the ability to see through blatant propaganda. A smart person is going to have an easier time recognising that what they experience doesn't match up with what they are being told. I expect if you surveyed the average IQ on this forum it would be above average, for example.

It also has something to do with personality, however. The denizens of this forum are also probably MUCH more disagreeable than average.

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– Gizortnik 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

Puts black woman struggling to read front and center

Well, that's just mean.

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– alucard13mmfmj 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

yeah.. critical thinking and self reflection is also on the decline.

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– FrozeInFear 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

I'm a bit surprised they would acknowledge the IQ decline, let alone imply that it might be a bad thing.

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– ModsAreAIDS 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

The very concept of IQ was raycisss to them. But we are now at the "it's happening and it's a good thing" stage of the propaganda.

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– Smith1980 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

I can think of a few reasons why it’s a bad thing, but what do I know.

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– SoctaticMethod1 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

There's only one solution to this: remove ALL safety signs from all areas. If people want to use pylons as jungle gyms and think a few minutes is too long to wait at a train crossing, let them.

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– acp_k2win 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

There is a passage in Mein Kampf that tangentially talks about this. Uncle H concluded that to strengthen a people you want to maximize births and minimize any social measures aimed at lowering mortality rates.

Though it makes sense it would be rough to see half of your kids die of scarlet fever or whatever.

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– Skywise 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

all declined from 2006 to 2018, while scores for 3D rotation or spatial reasoning increased.

Video games.

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– rebuildingMyself 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Well yeah. High IQ populations are a lot harder to manipulate, especially ones with access to free speech platforms online.

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– Kienan 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Oh dear.

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– AlbertFish 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

“Fatherly” is supposed to be a website about parenting advice for men but most of the writers are women who write retarded articles like this one.

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– I_Miss_Imp 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Where does one go to take a free IQ test these days? I vaguely remember being around 120-130 when I was younger, but I want to check and make sure I’m not dumb before I blame the decline on immigrants and women.

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– Puddinhead 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

This is the only one I've seen that's decent.

https://www.mensa.org/mensa-iq-challenge/

Mensa does have an online practice test that is half off until alAugust 24th. I'm not sure how much it normally is though.

I'm in Mensa and pretty much all of the online tests I've seen are crap. That link I posted is a good one for the pure pattern recognition side of things but Mensa's actual test has quite a bit of things like analogies and solving logic word problems (still pattern recognition but language based rather than symbolic or numerical)

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– aloha_snackbar22 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Article image is on point.

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– MAGAnic316 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Rest of the article had to be written in crayon with the E’s backwards.

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– covok48 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I swear this article is older than 2024.

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– rattleS 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Wait until you see the melanin levels...

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