Comics for propaganda, mangas for the sales...
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Wake up, babe. New stats just dropped.
That is not possible. If it is 66% of your sales, it is 66% of your output. Unless you've got millions of non-manga sitting around in boxes unsold.
'Copies of books' is not what is meant by 'output.' That is what is meant by 'sales.'
Example:
-> 1% of output is 66% of sales.
edit: corrected math, it's actually a crazier ratio than I thought at first.
There is a big disconnect between value and what can be monetized. R&D, for example, represents output but is not monetized. It could be. Comics can be a lot like that. Throw a lot of stuff out there and see what sticks.
Or it can just be propaganda.
The use of AAVE to sound hard is always so cringe, you know the people saying this shit are either baizuo retards or middle-class negroids who are insecure about never having grown up in da hood.
What is aave? Or is that a new way of saying ebonics? Yea, I’ve known some black ppl who basically grew up like the Cosby show but try very hard to act like what you see in a rap video
Excuse me, stewardess, I speak jive.
One of my favorite movie moments. Plus I love Leave it to Beaver. Just hang loose blood help gonna come on the rebound on the med side.
"Chump don' want no help, chump don't GET da help!" is becoming very relevant these days too.
Yes.
It's an evolution of the idea that black-centric grammatical mistakes collectively represent a language rather than a dialect.
Call me old fashioned but wouldn’t it be more appropriate to just correct bad grammar? I mean I get people speak to their friends a certain way but I’d say those young people should learn how to speak in a professional setting
Ironically it would be old fashioned to do that.
New fashion is to call you racist, additional irony aside given your own situation.
I would just look at what they do in more objective areas. Wouldn't it be better if High School graduates could do algebra? I think clearly so.
True. Also would be better to learn reading, writing, and arithmetic in school instead of lgbt, blm, or whatever agenda
Me saying "your shits all retarded and you sound funny" Is subjective. The Sat and Iq tests are not
For a moment I thought this was the line from Idiocracy and while close it's not quite there.
No they aren’t. Although another problem is when people get a low score on the tests you will always find some official who blames the test
I think it is "African American Venacular English" or something?
Oh. Ok. Thanks
Stop using acronyms. I swear to god you people need to get off of your goddamn phones.
The term "AAVE" is almost older than all cellphones, and definitely older than smart phones. Somehow you went nearly 30 years of never hearing this one.
Correct. It has never been in common use. Acronyms only serve to obfuscate information and should not be used unless it is a term that is in common use.
Smith1980 didn't seem to know the term either and he doesn't sound that old from his discussions here. I've barely heard it used outside of academia and KiA-adjacent forums, primarily referring to journalist papers. So one would assume it's easily recognizable to people wasting their time reading the drivel of neomarxists.
Maybe it was known with some of GenX but never passed on, because I have rarely seen anybody my age or younger use the term.
Seems to me the problem is people buying their manga. They're using manga sales to prop up anti-white and anti-male propaganda. Stop buying their good products to facilitate their evil ones.
Manga effortlessly crushes the entirety of the western comics industry because they have stories to tell and are accessible, both as a medium and in the sense that you can just waltz into a book store in the mall and pick up volume 1 of a title that interests you.
The western comicbook fanboys simply don't want to hear that their decades long incestuously interconnected universes are impenetrable labyrinths hidden away in specialty shops that no one visits other than people who are already invested, but it's true. The western comic book industry needs to seriously re-evaluate what the fuck they're doing with themselves if they want to survive or flourish. It's mismanaged from top to bottom and the fact the DC and Marvel are the face of the industry is keeping it locked in irrelevance. The proliferation of webcomics in the early 2000s showed us that western audiences still have an appetite for western comics, just not what the industry keeps churning out.
This you?
Go inflict your room temperature IQ on some other internet forum.
Well? This you?
You are too retarded to be allowed on the internet. If you were capable of intelligent thought or processing and comprehending information then you wouldn't be so confused after reading what I wrote.
Stop posting and leave this forum.
You call me a lot of things, but you never call me a liar.
Just once I’d love for these people to actually visit a comic book store to see just how many straight white guys or straight guys in general buy comics and see they are the bulk of the customer base
They know that, they hate it.
I take my daughter to the local comic book shop every week because they put on a “pokemon trainer class” for little kids. Been doing this for a few weeks now. Anywho, I don’t think I’ve noticed a single non white person in there, and most of the girls/ women I see are there with their boyfriends or husbands.
Also, they produce the comics (licensing only needed for the franchises they make comics for), they only license manga for distribution, so it's not even their stuff.
Oh but they get their translators to bungle the scripts with "localization", so they're totally contributing.
You know what the sad thing is? They'll convince themselves that it's because they're not going woke hard enough. It's not that their writing is garbage. It's not that they can't create anything original that works. It's clearly because "straight white boys" don't sell. Ignore the fact that Dark Horse's most profitable comic IP is Hellboy and that extended universe, meaning it's characters like Liz Sherman, Abe Sapien and Johann Kraus. Ignore that their most popular tie-in comics are things like Aliens, Predator, and (admittedly surprisingly) Avatar TLA/TLoK. Ignore that the ONLY woke property that makes them money is fucking Critical Role. Of course, even that is fucking pitiful considering that in 2019 it was their 6th most sold comic at...... ouch, 19,000 copies sold. Damn. Even with piggy-backing, you still barely sold a thing. It must suck to suck.
These losers will never learn. The time they could have learned came and went loooong ago. I could have felt sorry for them if they were misguided and then learnt their lesson. But they refuse to even consider it. So why should I feel sorry for people who's downfall is entirely and at this stage deliberately self inflicted? The only sad thing is seeing decent IPs get tossed away, but even that shouldn't be a tragedy since they should learn from the manga market and learn to let IPs go and just create something fucking new!
How can critical role make a profit if it sells only 20k?
They make, what, $5 a comic at most? That seems like enough to hire one guy to do the comic if you've got zero spent on overhead or materials or any other services.
The western comic industry is honestly terribly ran.
The model of issues at this stage are an archaic holdover. Thanks to modern manufacturing costs, issues should be digital only with TPBs being their main physical option instead. And even then, they could do better by having 2 versions that are basically standard and deluxe. Use basic materials for the standard, and better production quality for the deluxe.
It's not rocket science, but these companies are more interested in focusing on bad stories and archaic models because it's all subsidised by a dying film series that they're not even considering how close they are to losing nearly the entire mainstream western industry because it's in the shitter that bad.
TBP's?
Trade Paperbacks. It's basically the term used generally used for collections of issues sold together.
Ah okay, thanks.
Why are you wasting time on comics and Manga when you could be out leading the peoples of the west in a glorious revolution against the tyrants? Shouldn’t you and your alts be at least boosting comments that are encouraging people to break rule 2? Don't give up that easily man. Nobody likes a quitter.
Now downvote me with all of your alts so everybody else here can see what you are doing.
Why are you so assmad that you're bringing a separate discussion into another thread? Trying to go through posting history to find dirt on someone to avoid the discussion at hand? Did it hit a nerve that badly?
You're upvoting your own comments and downvoting people you have "discussions" with using multiple alts. It's pathetic. I will be bringing it up whenever I feel like it until everyone else can see it too.
So because I disagreed with your bravado on another post, you're now going to stalk my account to try and drum up some sort of crusade? Okay. You have fun with that one.
You sperged out because we aren't torching the White House over the opinions of some idiot cop in the UK. It isn't bravado to not be worried about it, not being a subject of the UK and all.
But weirdly your posts were miraculously instantly getting multiple upvotes even though the thread was dead and buried. It's absolutely pathetic. What kind of complete loser has to upvote his own posts on a middle of the nowhere forum like this to feel better about themselves? Or are you just trying to forum slide with your blackpill doomer shit? Either way, get a life.
Stop trying to bring this shit here in an unrelated thread. It looks pathetic, like you're trying to get other users in on it. I'll respond to you again on the other thread.
Oh now you're worried about looking pathetic. You're way too late there. I don't give a fuck if you respond. You and your alts are a waste of my time.
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I'm also not sure what to do with this.
I'd also include Manwha on that given how they're getting picked up more for anime adaptations. It's helped that Asia (mostly Japan) fostered a culture of BUYING it weekly from a store to this day.
The sheer amount of stuff I read weekly, I can pretty much recommend something for everyone than be stuck on either Marvel or DC.
I wish I could enjoy Manwha, but the wierd ass names Koreans have just cannot work with my brain. It always sounds fake or like some exaggerated stereotype in a movie. Its like when a South American walks in with their 14 word full names.
Its a really dumb criticism, I know.
I mean it's all personal preference at the end of the day since it's fictional content but I have to ask do you experience the same issue with Japanese work since they too do the family name first, personal name only to people VERY close to you.
Naruto is Naruto. Elders call him that. Coworkers call him that. The random brat on the street calls him that. He isn't Uzumaki. But even if he was, that's two names, and when talking about Naruto Uzumaki, your other options are Sasuke Uchiha, and/or Sakura Haruno. You're not going to mix up the names, they're very distinct.
Meanwhile, in Manwha, "Soon-Joon-Jin Hwa, we have found Sun-Jun-Jin Hila! He was holed up inside Saon-Joan-Jun Hua's base!"
In English writing, there's a rule to not have any two names sound too similar, unless it's for a very good purpose. Your cast should not have a Jayme and a Jamie unless they're twins or something of that ilk. Korean writing does not adhere, and in fact often goes directly against, that rule of writing, leaving western readers a bit jarred.
I thought I was the only one who couldn't follow because of the Sun-jun-won loops.
I think part of the problem is Korean isn't exactly pronounced as the romanized spelling you perceived in your mind, romanized names might look similar based on your understanding of the English alphabet but actually sound different if you know Korean, unlike romanized Japanese that sounds exactly like how it's phonetically spelled out in romanized letters.
I was thinking exactly this. When I was playing Total War: 3 Kingdoms, all the Chinese names read very similarly in English. To a Chinese person, I'm sure they're very distinct. But it's really hard on your "ear" to have to distinguish these names.
This is why Theon's sister was named Yara in the Game of Thrones TV show when in the books her name was either Asha or Osha, because the Wilding girl in a completely different part of the world and books had the other name.
No, its the "3 short names" thing, most of which sound nearly identical. It makes it incredibly hard to keep track of who is referring to who/what.
Again, its a petty little thing but its killed most of the industry for me.
I get that, I still power through and found some absolute gems among it. Currently really enjoying Murim Login, the main character is a goofball and it's hilarious what kinda whacky shit he gets thrown into.
How about Razorfist's recommendation of bande dessinee?
I have been meaning to look into French comics, only thing is that means I gotta balance it with 3 other countries lol
I'd like to take you up on that. I'm terrible at picking up Manhwa as all the ones I try are reincarnation power fantasies. You wouldn't happen to know any focused around urban fantasy or military where the main character isn't some OP badass who comes back from the dead?
Hmm, it's the 'isn't OP' part that is the hard one on that. Plus some of these aren't come back from the dead simply they now exist somewhere else.
On a light side you could try Solo Farming in the Tower as the MC is not op in fact he's the weakest thing there but it's because he can provide food and create friendly connections that he gets ahead. On a similar vain you have The S-Classes that I Raised where it focuses on building up those around him and I was dismissed from the Hero's Party because they don't need my training skills, so I strengthened my [Fief] which I got as a replacement for my retirement money which is one of the few the MC isn't exiled or betrayed by his party, they genuinely cared about him that they didn't want him to die following them into more dangerous areas so set him up to be a lord somewhere safe.
If it's more military you're after, I would recommend Nihonkoku Shoukan as if you've ever heard of GATE it's like that but with NO RESTRICTIONS as ALL of Japan has been transferred to a fantasy world, there's no MC in particular and fantasy weapons aren't as effective against modern weapons like jet fighters. It has rape, torture, civilian massacres and the Japanese aren't the ones doing it but fucking hell there's on event that makes them go full Empire again as the latest chapter they carpet bomb a military base killing everyone but one survivor.
not him, but thx man.
Thank you very much for that. I'll have to check them out, especially Nihonkoku Shoukan as I was a big fan of the general concept of GATE. As cool as it was seeing a modern army lay waste to a stereotypical fantasy world, I was a tad disappointed that the Magic vs Technology conflict wasn't closer. Furthermore, the lack of exploration of the interregional politics between Japan, The Special Region and Earth I felt didn't detract from the story, but it was good story left on the table.
Anime chars are like 98% fair skinned.. most nerds are white and asian males. Thus... its where most of the money will be coming from. And asians especially like pretty stuff.
Can't be a left wing cultist without double standards and mental gymnastics.
you need to start respecting us more.