Let's be honest here. The Tyrones that that all the women are fucking have each sired at least one gang shooter. Half siblings in the ghetto are one natural resource that we'll never run out of.
I wonder if they need to do DNA tests just to make sure there's minimal inbreeding, like some of the more isolated peoples have begun doing? If a guy's pump'n'dump'd once, he's doing it more than once. Half the ghetto might've been spawned by a half-dozen promiscuous men.
Lookat dis fuggin raysis cracka, tryin to be all funny 'bout the HUWYTE MAN kidnappin all da Blak men sos dey caint be fathuhs to dey chillren. An tryin to say dat all da shootuhs in Chriraq Bein Blak an shiiiiet, when we knodat deys all HUWYTE MEN in costume, jess liek Louis Farrakhan be sayin.
This is extremely tricky in while I agree they seem to be failures as parents (of the article is to be believed), the precedent it sets is TOO dangerous.
I can easily see this used against parents who don't comply with guidance councillors and school psychologists' demands in regards to their kids.
I don't trust a lot of parents to watch their kids to protect others OR schools to keep my kids safe, I'd rather homeschool them even if it meant downsizing and living closer to my still sane relatives.
everything judeo-commies do is a slippery slope. they've been increasing the incline slightly every year for well over 100 years.
we're well past being able to fight this through voting. too much subversion has gone on for too long. too many people's entire worldview has been corrupted beyond repair.
Do I think the parents were negligent. Hell yes. CRIMINALLY negligent though? Not necessarily.
The article said that the parents elected to return to work after a meeting at the school. With the way this economy is, they may not have had the choice to take time off. Who knows, I'm just speculating.
I feel bad for the kid and all the parents involved. But at the end of the day, unless the parents actively bought their son a gun for the purpose of committing the crime, they should not have to pay for the actions of their child, no matter how horrific.
So just to get this clear: Parents have no rights to raise their own child, however if they do fail to raise their child and that child commits and atrocity, that's now their fault?
I know that pointing out double standards is a meme, but it's just insane how these people operate. That anyone can be held responsible for the actions of another (excluding cases of explicit coercion, extortion, etc), but that those same people can also be jailed for preventing those others from self-harming.
People lash out when they feel hopeless. China has been having an epidemic of people going crazy and running down pedestrians and school kids with their cars for the exact same reason. And just like here, it then gets used as evidence that the government needs to crack down even more.
We are in a death spiral as the west is collapsing.
As I recall, the day of the shooting, he and his parents were called into the office because a teacher had concerns, and the parents offered to take him home, but the admin staff said "thats not necessary." How come no one at the school is being charged?
Is this going to lead to bartenders being jailed for serving to future DUI accidents/deaths? Doctors for prescribing meds that lead to tangental deaths? Can we go after the pharma companies and oxy pusher doctors? Social media mobs driving people to suicide? Parents of inner city gangbangers?
No. Just this couple. I wonder why.. Some pattern I'm missing.
There's a lot to unpack here. First, one of the things about America is that when something goes wrong the public demands a scapegoat. I think small minds don't want to deal with the fact that rarely is a problem just one (or a few) person's fault, that systems can and do fail both regularly and spectacularly. They want things tied up in a neat bow, and this conviction gives it to them: it was all a warped kid his parents failed to stop him. Let's put those three in jail, and all is right with the world. You can return to your regularly scheduled programming.
The second is that this is a further step in the gun control agenda. Anti-gun groups have been clamoring for years to hold gun owners responsible when someone gets ahold of and misuses their gun. They hit the gold mine with two very unsympathetic parents who are undoubtedly negligent. But don't think for a second these are the only kind of people they want to hold to this level of liability. Left-leaning states are already passing laws that if your firearm is stolen and you don't immediately report it to the police you are liable for anything the thief later does with it. Their goal is to dissuade people from owning guns because they become too much of a liability risk if they are lost or stolen.
Finally, even though the parents have the lion's share of the blame here, let's not forget that on the very day the shooting occurred the school did not feel that he was such a threat that he had to be sent home or the police be notified, and it sounds like they didn't even ask:
Staff at Oxford High School did not demand that he go home but were surprised when the Crumbleys didn’t volunteer it during a brief meeting.
So if the very people who were on the ground at the shooting mere hours away from it occurring didn't see an imminent threat is it reasonable to expect that his parents would have had clairvoyance into his violent future?
As I said in another thread: use these articles to get your own shit and your own life together, because in our lifetimes they will be much more overt with their authoritarianism. These are shots across the bow for what they're about to do to you. Take them as such.
On one hand, I get it. The parents in this particular case were scumbag dipshits of the highest order, refusing to get their kid when asked to by the school and responding to their son being caught buying ammo IN FUCKING SCHOOL by telling him not to get caught next time.
On the other hand, this sets a really weird precedent that'll get abused from now till the end of time.
They never speak of those people having any responsibility ever. Whether it’s the tranny groomers or just in this case the school environment itself. What I always found the most irritating was when teachers would join in. There’s so many that if you’re not figuratively sucking their dick constantly, they will jump right on the dogpile as well.
I’m not sure a 15 year old kid would be caught on to that level of doomism at a majorly white high school. There’s plenty of bullshit available to a kid local to their own life.
What evidence do you have that that was his motive? It looks like some of his victims were both white and male. The shooter also made a recording where he said, "I'm going to open fire on everyone in that hallway...I will try to hit as many people as I can.". So, that means he wasn't even targeting anyone specific. He just wanted to kill random people indiscriminately, without any thought of whether they deserved it or not.
And you're saying we should support this guy?....Jesus. You either have to be a fedposter or a schizo.
Just to make sure that I'm understanding everyone's position here, apparently we support murdering random people because "no bad tactics, only bad targets"?
Even if we set aside any sense of morality and adopt a purely pragmatic approach, I don't see how this aids our cause at all. This story is only going to be used to restrict 2A rights and demonize White males further.
If you're some extremely angsty, misanthropic person, then I can understand the appeal of fantasizing about committing shootings. But if you choose to act on that impulse, then you're not doing anything to help other White Nats out there. If you really wanted to make a difference, there are much more efficient (and more moral) ways of doing that.
What about the parent of Chicago’s gang shootings?
Dey dindu nuffin.
That is apparently a punishable crime now.
But only if you're a white 2A supporter.
Dey was gud bois. They was jus on dey way to church.
They wouldn’t punish the dads, even if they could find them.
Notice how he said parent lol
Let's be honest here. The Tyrones that that all the women are fucking have each sired at least one gang shooter. Half siblings in the ghetto are one natural resource that we'll never run out of.
I wonder if they need to do DNA tests just to make sure there's minimal inbreeding, like some of the more isolated peoples have begun doing? If a guy's pump'n'dump'd once, he's doing it more than once. Half the ghetto might've been spawned by a half-dozen promiscuous men.
Sweet Home
AlabamaChiraq.They're not White.
Lookat dis fuggin raysis cracka, tryin to be all funny 'bout the HUWYTE MAN kidnappin all da Blak men sos dey caint be fathuhs to dey chillren. An tryin to say dat all da shootuhs in Chriraq Bein Blak an shiiiiet, when we knodat deys all HUWYTE MEN in costume, jess liek Louis Farrakhan be sayin.
This is extremely tricky in while I agree they seem to be failures as parents (of the article is to be believed), the precedent it sets is TOO dangerous.
I can easily see this used against parents who don't comply with guidance councillors and school psychologists' demands in regards to their kids.
I don't trust a lot of parents to watch their kids to protect others OR schools to keep my kids safe, I'd rather homeschool them even if it meant downsizing and living closer to my still sane relatives.
everything judeo-commies do is a slippery slope. they've been increasing the incline slightly every year for well over 100 years.
we're well past being able to fight this through voting. too much subversion has gone on for too long. too many people's entire worldview has been corrupted beyond repair.
This was all about persecuting 2A people. Setting a dangerous precedent was the point.
Yea, hopefully they appeal and get the whole thing tossed.
What do you mean "can"? Persecution is the point! Not that it might or will, but that it was designed to be from the beginning.
Do I think the parents were negligent. Hell yes. CRIMINALLY negligent though? Not necessarily.
The article said that the parents elected to return to work after a meeting at the school. With the way this economy is, they may not have had the choice to take time off. Who knows, I'm just speculating.
I feel bad for the kid and all the parents involved. But at the end of the day, unless the parents actively bought their son a gun for the purpose of committing the crime, they should not have to pay for the actions of their child, no matter how horrific.
This really isn't about parents though, it's about getting the parents to inform on their own children if they're acting American.
If it goes forward, no one with a head on their shoulders would talk to their relatives unless they knew their ideological frameworks coincide.
Divide isolate eliminate. It's what they do.
They're human sacrifices to the gun grabbing cult, just like Alex Jones. Saint Kyle of Kenosha irks them so much because he escaped their grasp.
I guarantee you not one negress single mother will ever be "held accountable" for the crime her spawn commits.
So just to get this clear: Parents have no rights to raise their own child, however if they do fail to raise their child and that child commits and atrocity, that's now their fault?
I know that pointing out double standards is a meme, but it's just insane how these people operate. That anyone can be held responsible for the actions of another (excluding cases of explicit coercion, extortion, etc), but that those same people can also be jailed for preventing those others from self-harming.
Anti white laws. That's all this is. The government is the reason white people are driven to mass shootings. The politicians should all be hanged.
People lash out when they feel hopeless. China has been having an epidemic of people going crazy and running down pedestrians and school kids with their cars for the exact same reason. And just like here, it then gets used as evidence that the government needs to crack down even more.
We are in a death spiral as the west is collapsing.
As I recall, the day of the shooting, he and his parents were called into the office because a teacher had concerns, and the parents offered to take him home, but the admin staff said "thats not necessary." How come no one at the school is being charged?
That's a can of worms to open.
What drugs was the kid on? Maybe put them in jail for that.
He isn't talking about the "fun" drugs. He is talking about SSRIs.
The reason to assume it is because a shockingly high number of mass shooters were on SSRIs.
We all know this precedent will only be used against white heterosexual people.
Great, now charge the parents of that roided out girl who shot up that school earlier.
Well this certainly won't be abused at all.
and if they had taken measures to prevent him they'd be in jail for child abuse instead.
This is not the direction we want to go.
Is this going to lead to bartenders being jailed for serving to future DUI accidents/deaths? Doctors for prescribing meds that lead to tangental deaths? Can we go after the pharma companies and oxy pusher doctors? Social media mobs driving people to suicide? Parents of inner city gangbangers?
No. Just this couple. I wonder why.. Some pattern I'm missing.
Pretty sure a bartender can be held accountable for serving a drunk person alcohol.
Then this opens the door for quite a bit
There's a lot to unpack here. First, one of the things about America is that when something goes wrong the public demands a scapegoat. I think small minds don't want to deal with the fact that rarely is a problem just one (or a few) person's fault, that systems can and do fail both regularly and spectacularly. They want things tied up in a neat bow, and this conviction gives it to them: it was all a warped kid his parents failed to stop him. Let's put those three in jail, and all is right with the world. You can return to your regularly scheduled programming.
The second is that this is a further step in the gun control agenda. Anti-gun groups have been clamoring for years to hold gun owners responsible when someone gets ahold of and misuses their gun. They hit the gold mine with two very unsympathetic parents who are undoubtedly negligent. But don't think for a second these are the only kind of people they want to hold to this level of liability. Left-leaning states are already passing laws that if your firearm is stolen and you don't immediately report it to the police you are liable for anything the thief later does with it. Their goal is to dissuade people from owning guns because they become too much of a liability risk if they are lost or stolen.
Finally, even though the parents have the lion's share of the blame here, let's not forget that on the very day the shooting occurred the school did not feel that he was such a threat that he had to be sent home or the police be notified, and it sounds like they didn't even ask:
So if the very people who were on the ground at the shooting mere hours away from it occurring didn't see an imminent threat is it reasonable to expect that his parents would have had clairvoyance into his violent future?
As I said in another thread: use these articles to get your own shit and your own life together, because in our lifetimes they will be much more overt with their authoritarianism. These are shots across the bow for what they're about to do to you. Take them as such.
On one hand, I get it. The parents in this particular case were scumbag dipshits of the highest order, refusing to get their kid when asked to by the school and responding to their son being caught buying ammo IN FUCKING SCHOOL by telling him not to get caught next time.
On the other hand, this sets a really weird precedent that'll get abused from now till the end of time.
They never speak of those people having any responsibility ever. Whether it’s the tranny groomers or just in this case the school environment itself. What I always found the most irritating was when teachers would join in. There’s so many that if you’re not figuratively sucking their dick constantly, they will jump right on the dogpile as well.
I’m not sure a 15 year old kid would be caught on to that level of doomism at a majorly white high school. There’s plenty of bullshit available to a kid local to their own life.
I don't know anything about this kid. Why should we feel sympathy for him?
What evidence do you have that that was his motive? It looks like some of his victims were both white and male. The shooter also made a recording where he said, "I'm going to open fire on everyone in that hallway...I will try to hit as many people as I can.". So, that means he wasn't even targeting anyone specific. He just wanted to kill random people indiscriminately, without any thought of whether they deserved it or not.
And you're saying we should support this guy?....Jesus. You either have to be a fedposter or a schizo.
30 out of 31 people in the classroom enjoy bullying.
Just to make sure that I'm understanding everyone's position here, apparently we support murdering random people because "no bad tactics, only bad targets"?
Even if we set aside any sense of morality and adopt a purely pragmatic approach, I don't see how this aids our cause at all. This story is only going to be used to restrict 2A rights and demonize White males further.
If you're some extremely angsty, misanthropic person, then I can understand the appeal of fantasizing about committing shootings. But if you choose to act on that impulse, then you're not doing anything to help other White Nats out there. If you really wanted to make a difference, there are much more efficient (and more moral) ways of doing that.
Glowie confirmed.
No wonder you advise running away, its what you do whenever you are confronted with an opinion you can't handle on the internet.
It’s pretty funny seeing an every day poster lose a popularity contest with a handshake account lol