Almost as if we shouldn’t become consumed by love for people behind a screen who don’t even know we exist. The cult-like worship of Internet personalities is part of the problem.
para-social relationship is pure cancer at either end, you're pouring affection to someone who doesn't even know nor care you exist or you're somehow beholden like a clown to strangers online.
The implosion of Channel Awesome was a real redpill for me. I had the naive idea that most of the content creators on that site were decent, regular nerds who had really fun jobs. It was only when the whole thing collapsed into infighting and complete childishness that I realized that it was a pack of dysfunctional, narcissistic, man/womanchildren who couldn't run their own lives, let alone a business.
it didn’t really hit me until right now. never thought i’d be crying simply bc of the realization that i will have to live as an american for the rest of my life and there’s nothing i can do about it
I'm all for bodily autonomy and all that jazz, but these fucks either fail to understand or just don't care that at some point that "clump of cells" beclome a person and has rights. Like the right to not be murdered.
Also, dems had plenty of time to make abortion a federal law but instead they were happy to just mine the issue for outrage votes for the last 30+ years so fuck 'em.
That's a very frustrating part of it. Judges aren't legislators. Go ahead and argue about whether abortion is good or bad, but at least realize that that doesn't have a goddamn thing to do with the supreme court.
No... he's saying 'fuck you' to anyone who realizes that Roe vs. Wade was a garbage decision. You don't need to think abortion is wrong to realize that.
Lesson learned: do not care about people. Even the people who are on your side are scummy, immoral wretches, who'll turn on you in a jiffy if it suits their interests.
Has anyone else noticed that manchildren hate real children? I don't mean simply feeling uncomfortable around/feeling like you can't relate to children, either. I mean hate, hate.
I used to see it all the time on Reddit, when I used that site more often. There was lots of referring to kids as "crotch goblins." And there was a general impression that raising a child was just about the worst fate that anyone could be subject to. It's more important to have every bit of money and time that you have go to your own pleasures and consumption than to use it to support the growth of a brand-new, unique individual.
This slavish support of abortion seems like an extension of that. I don't mean simply being pro-choice (though I disagree with that position); I mean uncritically supporting abortion as the moral equivalent of clipping ones toenails. Whether you support abortion or not, it should be plainly obvious that there is a moral dilemma at hand. No moral dilemma should ever be taken lightly.
Just to be clear, by "manchild" I don't mean just anyone who enjoys video games or children's media. I enjoy both of these things. I mean someone who lives only to consume, without ever assimilating the pervasive messages and advice in children's stories to improve their own lives and grow as a person.
Killing an innocent human because you don't want it squating a few months is bad. Yes even if it got there against your will. The baby is innocent. No I don't want the state to force you to host it. But don't pretend you're doing something neutral.
I would abort the baby of someone who raped me too, but I don't pretend it's not killing. It is.
Killing it to save your life due to medical problems is unfortunate and sad.
Killing it after the point it is viable outside you is murder and needs to be treated as such.
I learn to hate normies for what they are, spineless and brainless for their convictions is neither studied nor is it ever solid. They will scream and holler in virtue signalling only what the mainstream deems acceptable and would swing their opinion to whichever gains them affection and reverance. If tomorrow should the norm swings to the extreme far right, im honestly not surprise this fucking e-celebs would stumbling over each other calling for the public decapitation of faggots.
Truth be told I never played Hexen. I just had the first episode of Heretic as shareware which I replayed endlessly back when I was young and very bad at it. Good times...
for some the best memories we have are our childhoods/youth... for somehowever its the worst glad you got good memories of times gone you may need them.
Contrariwise: DON'T "fuck me". Neither you nor the baby-killers you so simp for*... Please die off for reals; you and your generations all, the fruit of your loins, your posterity, your very spoo-dreggs; and all the sterility-culture that you advocate and for which you water-bear, too. Truly, good bye, as you go. Bless the wide flooded road that sweeps you away.
* they still don't want you; they will NEVER want you
Seperate the content creator from their opinions unless it affects their work. That and if they do something criminal is the reason you should stop watching them .
I know a ton of content creators I watch who I either have points I disagree with or full on oppose on some issues but it doesn't bleed into their work and haven't done anything criminal so it's just whatever
Plus that's from Twitter pre Elon, post Elon it's just a train wreak that had fireworks that everyone enjoys watching the fire, pre Elon it was fucking Chernobyl! Anyone who did more than post self promotion was usually on the leftist side to some degree.
Not really. I only recognize this guy's name but don't know who he is so maybe he can be effectively boycotted into irrelevance. Other small fries may be vulnerable to it as well. However, the idea that meaningful change can come from boycotts like this is misguided. Our economy is much more centralized than people realize thanks to its financialization so you end up funding their crap when you pay taxes or buy toilet paper. Unless you are living in a shack like Uncle Ted, you are funding them, and good luck turning "live in a shack" into a mass movement.
Let go of that vestigial market liberalism, friend. It's a failed philosophy that will get you nowhere.
Pretty much, if you search 'Ma' on YouTube he's the second result and he has 34.3 million subscribers
It's why I see these purity calls pointless, we don't have the resources to even be NOTICED doing it. We are an insurgency trying to use the tactics of a national military trying to do that!
He's friends with Pewdiepie so in that circle of creators
I'm not so sure, anymore. Pewdiepie had a video recently where he mentioned people wanting him to do a collaboration and the reason he gave for no didn't match the way he sounded. The body language was weird, the tone, something about it was off.
An that's why we lose too if we engage in the same purity test, we isolate everyone else that COULD be an ally of convenience against the left and their endless march because 'I don't agree with them 100%'
If I did that, I'd have cut out family who fell for the vaccine, now, they listen to me even more for my opinion because I didn't pull the 'you're a fucking idiot' card when I disagreed with them.
The ones that falter and affects their work aren't going to be able to walk back from the cliff so they're done. The ones that say shit takes on twitter but they make content that doesn't go into their politics or is trying to be divisive are ones that are at least aware of another side so can be brought over.....so long as you haven't already burned them..
I will freely admit, I can befriend someone who is lightly involved with someone like antifa just to use them as a disposable asset to gain intel on their inner workings and plans
Just as much as I'd develop relationships with hard-core islamists if I could turn them against the left. I really have no loyalty to no one but the friends and family I care about who never betray my trust. And if they're fucked with you REALLY don't want to know what I am capable of considering..
it's not just about financially punishing them, there's literally nothing important enough from content creators that hate your very existence that you need to waste your time consuming their contents
Wait hate my existence? When did I say I'd watch them? If they're at that stage, they already have let it bled into their work, this is just a shit take on a platform that is essentially text screaming
Give me one example of a creator openly hostile to the other side that hasn't let it influence their work.
For a single topic, maybe. For a bunch of minor topics even. Most people are gonna have political disagreements at some level. But when it's major issues that are founded from fundamental disagreements, then it's a little harder to just go "well, we have a slight difference of opinion", because it's not a slight difference, it's a fundamental difference.
This doesn't change by ignoring the problem. Ignoring the problem is how we got here. Stop trying to play by the rules they never played by at any point.
I'll give an example since a lot seem to have come to the conclusion I watch and support everything unless they are criminals
I watch SFO and Shoeonhead's main channel (when she posts) still despite some major disagreements i have with some of their positions. Why? Because for SFO it allows me to refine my opinions knowing the mentality of opponents or those that just aren't as far on the conservative scale. He doesn't go outright calling me evil for the disagreements (though gets into play fights with chat a lot) and so is useful to not be stuck in one way of thinking
Shoe is similar but because she's more on the left is even more useful to understand opponents way of thinking. A big plus is her huge hatred of pedophiles, she's actually very useful finding pedos on the left like with the recent fashion company one as let's be honest, the right swore off the fashion industry LONG ago so it might have been missed if we only relied on right leaning creators.
Point is this, because of their differences yet they don't target their audiences or let it fully bleed into their work, they are useful assets to develop opinions. As soon as they pass a threshold of when it does become full on attacks then they are no longer useful as an asset.
Besides I've been more attacked by the right leaning content creators for my love of Anime than my political opinions by some of my slightly left leaning content creators. The right unfortunately despite having nowhere near the power of the left has probably wasted opportunities for more allies of convenience due to this purity test.
I did say content creators, not charities, governments, NGOs, banks, police forces, car manufacturers.....
The ones that at least have that divide of content and shit takes can at least come back off the cliff. Those where it bleeds in, well they're now puppets so that hand up their ass is gonna stop them thinking for themselves.
Almost as if we shouldn’t become consumed by love for people behind a screen who don’t even know we exist. The cult-like worship of Internet personalities is part of the problem.
Never understood the celebrity (E-Celeb or otherwise) worship.
Imagine paying attention to people who don't even know your name.
para-social relationship is pure cancer at either end, you're pouring affection to someone who doesn't even know nor care you exist or you're somehow beholden like a clown to strangers online.
The implosion of Channel Awesome was a real redpill for me. I had the naive idea that most of the content creators on that site were decent, regular nerds who had really fun jobs. It was only when the whole thing collapsed into infighting and complete childishness that I realized that it was a pack of dysfunctional, narcissistic, man/womanchildren who couldn't run their own lives, let alone a business.
That whole debacle was a shock to me. I really liked them when I was a teenager.
I still appreciate how I learned about so many classic movies, TV shows, etc. through them, but maybe things played out the way they did for the best.
I hope newer, better pop culture critics like Nerdrotic and Ryan Kinel can pick up from where CA left off and learn from their mistakes.
True, but the meltdowns were (and still are) good popcorn material. Especially Spoony IMO.
Women should be in control of their own bodies, unless they are a developing woman temporarily in the body of their mother, then they have no say.
Also no say if they aren't enthusiastic about injecting an experimental mRNA gene therapy into their bodies.
Any time any leftist talks about abortion or vaccines, you should switch the subject to the other.
"MY BODY, MY CHOICE!"
"Wow, I had no idea that you were an anti-vaxx conspiracy theorist. Much disappoint."
"Vaccinations should be required."
"Totally agree. Bodily autonomy very bad. And let's outlaw abortion while we're at it."
(And yes, I realize that abortion bans do not violate bodily autonomy except in cases of rape, but this pisses them off to no end.)
Women should be in control of their own bodies, until we decide that they should be forced to take a vaccine in order to pad Pfizer's profits.
I'm not sure that I even grant this premise at this stage of the game.
If they're not in control of their own minds, is it possible to be in control of their minds?
Where next, woman?
Where the magic box tells me, where else?
[Just substitute radio/television/internet as appropriate for the time period]
My favorite reply:
Why? Are they a convicted felon? Political Prisoner? I didn't know they had Twitter at Gitmo
I'm all for bodily autonomy and all that jazz, but these fucks either fail to understand or just don't care that at some point that "clump of cells" beclome a person and has rights. Like the right to not be murdered.
Also, dems had plenty of time to make abortion a federal law but instead they were happy to just mine the issue for outrage votes for the last 30+ years so fuck 'em.
That's a very frustrating part of it. Judges aren't legislators. Go ahead and argue about whether abortion is good or bad, but at least realize that that doesn't have a goddamn thing to do with the supreme court.
Who?
Guy who plays vidjagames and overreacts on the internets. This one is just one of the most famous from the last decade or so.
The FnaF guy
Funne Man Make Funne Scream
No... he's saying 'fuck you' to anyone who realizes that Roe vs. Wade was a garbage decision. You don't need to think abortion is wrong to realize that.
Lesson learned: do not care about people. Even the people who are on your side are scummy, immoral wretches, who'll turn on you in a jiffy if it suits their interests.
Guarantee bet he got a girl pregnant and paid her money to get an abortion.
Not your DNA, not your body.
Fuck you cuck. Womens rights were a mistake.
Has anyone else noticed that manchildren hate real children? I don't mean simply feeling uncomfortable around/feeling like you can't relate to children, either. I mean hate, hate.
I used to see it all the time on Reddit, when I used that site more often. There was lots of referring to kids as "crotch goblins." And there was a general impression that raising a child was just about the worst fate that anyone could be subject to. It's more important to have every bit of money and time that you have go to your own pleasures and consumption than to use it to support the growth of a brand-new, unique individual.
This slavish support of abortion seems like an extension of that. I don't mean simply being pro-choice (though I disagree with that position); I mean uncritically supporting abortion as the moral equivalent of clipping ones toenails. Whether you support abortion or not, it should be plainly obvious that there is a moral dilemma at hand. No moral dilemma should ever be taken lightly.
Just to be clear, by "manchild" I don't mean just anyone who enjoys video games or children's media. I enjoy both of these things. I mean someone who lives only to consume, without ever assimilating the pervasive messages and advice in children's stories to improve their own lives and grow as a person.
I think its because like a spoiled child, they never grew up.
Well said. Kids jealous of their younger better version haha
My girl provides a lot for me too. She cooks delicious meals and supports me in many ways daily. Sorry you don't have that in your life imp.
I can't support myself mentally how she does. Honestly that alone has been a huge bonus in my life after the last few years.
Oh, you want a bet?
You're the definition of 'moron'.
He even looks the part: https://www.amazon.ca/Cuckold-Tonara-Cluric-ebook/dp/B01MFE8KYX
Killing an innocent human because you don't want it squating a few months is bad. Yes even if it got there against your will. The baby is innocent. No I don't want the state to force you to host it. But don't pretend you're doing something neutral.
I would abort the baby of someone who raped me too, but I don't pretend it's not killing. It is.
Killing it to save your life due to medical problems is unfortunate and sad.
Killing it after the point it is viable outside you is murder and needs to be treated as such.
RvW was objectively the worst SC decision in history and the only bad thing about it being overturned was how long it took.
You can be 100% pro "choice" and the above statement is still 100% correct.
Multiplier was a useless turd only 1 year after his career launched on YouTube.
I learn to hate normies for what they are, spineless and brainless for their convictions is neither studied nor is it ever solid. They will scream and holler in virtue signalling only what the mainstream deems acceptable and would swing their opinion to whichever gains them affection and reverance. If tomorrow should the norm swings to the extreme far right, im honestly not surprise this fucking e-celebs would stumbling over each other calling for the public decapitation of faggots.
What's to celebrate here? It was just a local civilization (part of Ukraine + Moldova), seemed a very good folk with one bizarre feature (https://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-europe/cucuteni-trypillian-002807).
The other guys were into war and human sacrifice.
He is relevant. You expect him to have a dissenting opinion and NOT be successful?
I am sure he also encouraged the government overreach with forced injections too.
Markiplier is goofy soy sucker
Someone's whore had a pregnancy scare/threatened to cut him off.
Fuck him, then. Hope his new friends treat him just as well.
I never cared for this idiot, maybe he was past my time but it always seemed he was just chasing the latest thing.
I remember hearing about his apology of something and saying "Marky-moo has been a bad boy" in the apology. Creepy af/
Ehhh well fook you! MARK
Isn't this the guy who cries in almost every "milestone" video he makes?
Suffer not the Heretic.
so howabout hexen instead?
Ha!
Truth be told I never played Hexen. I just had the first episode of Heretic as shareware which I replayed endlessly back when I was young and very bad at it. Good times...
for some the best memories we have are our childhoods/youth... for somehowever its the worst glad you got good memories of times gone you may need them.
I can agree with this sentiment.
To Markiplier:
Contrariwise: DON'T "fuck me". Neither you nor the baby-killers you so simp for*... Please die off for reals; you and your generations all, the fruit of your loins, your posterity, your very spoo-dreggs; and all the sterility-culture that you advocate and for which you water-bear, too. Truly, good bye, as you go. Bless the wide flooded road that sweeps you away.
* they still don't want you; they will NEVER want you
Seperate the content creator from their opinions unless it affects their work. That and if they do something criminal is the reason you should stop watching them .
I know a ton of content creators I watch who I either have points I disagree with or full on oppose on some issues but it doesn't bleed into their work and haven't done anything criminal so it's just whatever
Plus that's from Twitter pre Elon, post Elon it's just a train wreak that had fireworks that everyone enjoys watching the fire, pre Elon it was fucking Chernobyl! Anyone who did more than post self promotion was usually on the leftist side to some degree.
This is why we lose.
Develop self-discipline. Take principled stands in your personal life. Stop being a pussy.
Not really. I only recognize this guy's name but don't know who he is so maybe he can be effectively boycotted into irrelevance. Other small fries may be vulnerable to it as well. However, the idea that meaningful change can come from boycotts like this is misguided. Our economy is much more centralized than people realize thanks to its financialization so you end up funding their crap when you pay taxes or buy toilet paper. Unless you are living in a shack like Uncle Ted, you are funding them, and good luck turning "live in a shack" into a mass movement.
Let go of that vestigial market liberalism, friend. It's a failed philosophy that will get you nowhere.
He's friends with Pewdiepie so in that circle of creators
You have NO fucking chance of boycotting him into irrelevance unless he either murders someone, comes out as a pedo or scams a bunch of people!
Ah, he is bigger than I thought then. That makes it even more futile.
Pretty much, if you search 'Ma' on YouTube he's the second result and he has 34.3 million subscribers
It's why I see these purity calls pointless, we don't have the resources to even be NOTICED doing it. We are an insurgency trying to use the tactics of a national military trying to do that!
I'm not so sure, anymore. Pewdiepie had a video recently where he mentioned people wanting him to do a collaboration and the reason he gave for no didn't match the way he sounded. The body language was weird, the tone, something about it was off.
An that's why we lose too if we engage in the same purity test, we isolate everyone else that COULD be an ally of convenience against the left and their endless march because 'I don't agree with them 100%'
If I did that, I'd have cut out family who fell for the vaccine, now, they listen to me even more for my opinion because I didn't pull the 'you're a fucking idiot' card when I disagreed with them.
The ones that falter and affects their work aren't going to be able to walk back from the cliff so they're done. The ones that say shit takes on twitter but they make content that doesn't go into their politics or is trying to be divisive are ones that are at least aware of another side so can be brought over.....so long as you haven't already burned them..
It's foolish to think that you can copy the exact strategy of those in power when you are a powerless insurgent (metaphorical).
That and I know I can be ruthless
I will freely admit, I can befriend someone who is lightly involved with someone like antifa just to use them as a disposable asset to gain intel on their inner workings and plans
Just as much as I'd develop relationships with hard-core islamists if I could turn them against the left. I really have no loyalty to no one but the friends and family I care about who never betray my trust. And if they're fucked with you REALLY don't want to know what I am capable of considering..
it's not just about financially punishing them, there's literally nothing important enough from content creators that hate your very existence that you need to waste your time consuming their contents
Wait hate my existence? When did I say I'd watch them? If they're at that stage, they already have let it bled into their work, this is just a shit take on a platform that is essentially text screaming
Give me one example of a creator openly hostile to the other side that hasn't let it influence their work.
For a single topic, maybe. For a bunch of minor topics even. Most people are gonna have political disagreements at some level. But when it's major issues that are founded from fundamental disagreements, then it's a little harder to just go "well, we have a slight difference of opinion", because it's not a slight difference, it's a fundamental difference.
This doesn't change by ignoring the problem. Ignoring the problem is how we got here. Stop trying to play by the rules they never played by at any point.
I'll give an example since a lot seem to have come to the conclusion I watch and support everything unless they are criminals
I watch SFO and Shoeonhead's main channel (when she posts) still despite some major disagreements i have with some of their positions. Why? Because for SFO it allows me to refine my opinions knowing the mentality of opponents or those that just aren't as far on the conservative scale. He doesn't go outright calling me evil for the disagreements (though gets into play fights with chat a lot) and so is useful to not be stuck in one way of thinking
Shoe is similar but because she's more on the left is even more useful to understand opponents way of thinking. A big plus is her huge hatred of pedophiles, she's actually very useful finding pedos on the left like with the recent fashion company one as let's be honest, the right swore off the fashion industry LONG ago so it might have been missed if we only relied on right leaning creators.
Point is this, because of their differences yet they don't target their audiences or let it fully bleed into their work, they are useful assets to develop opinions. As soon as they pass a threshold of when it does become full on attacks then they are no longer useful as an asset.
Besides I've been more attacked by the right leaning content creators for my love of Anime than my political opinions by some of my slightly left leaning content creators. The right unfortunately despite having nowhere near the power of the left has probably wasted opportunities for more allies of convenience due to this purity test.
Still playing Microsoft games?
Because as we know, there is only one issue in the world that can possibly exist. Only one, ever at any time.
But Gates still gets any money spent, though. And Gates is a Globohomo cuck
I did say content creators, not charities, governments, NGOs, banks, police forces, car manufacturers.....
The ones that at least have that divide of content and shit takes can at least come back off the cliff. Those where it bleeds in, well they're now puppets so that hand up their ass is gonna stop them thinking for themselves.
See, they are in the right, so they have every right to be upset at having to look at a heretic. But conservatives are in the wrong, so suck it up.
For all their pretense of sophistication, leftism boils out to the oft-mocked line from the Song of Roland: Pagans are wrong and Christians are right.
I mean if people could be insulted by anythng Grammer has done, I would have thought Money Plane would have been it over his politics lol
That's worse than this? Lol
I only know it from honest trailers
I'm tempted to watch it with friends as it might be a good 'roast film' to watch with drinks!
He's got a large enough presence that the wheel of recreational outrage will inevitably stop on him.