Copy/Paste my own comment from the last vax death in X years thread:
Fatality in 2 years is psyop nonsense designed to discourage actual concerns about the vax. There may be long term effects on fertility, potential increased cancer risk, many other side effects that are unknown and can't possibly be known for years yet. And that's the entire point, we cannot know any mid to long term effects of the vax or any medication until there have been test cases around that long. Thalidomide side effects took 6 years to manifest. [Reply mentioned it was 6 years to find the cause, effects started appearing around 6 months] There may also be no long term effects at all, we just can't know now. So it's perfectly reasonable to be leery, weigh your known risks of the Shanghai Shivers vs potential unknowns, and decide to not get vaxxed.
All my money is on birth defects and/or sterility. Ten years from now we'll be reading headlines about how the DNC tried to warn us about Trump's toxic baby killer potion but white people were just too darn evil to listen. Count on it.
Never in human history has a drug suddenly killed everyone who took it, or even close. Even back when medicine amounted to "here, smoke this hallucinogenic herb I found growing in the jungle and maybe something good will happen", death by medicine was extremely rare.
Yeah I won't lie that stuff is pretty darn compelling when you look it up. I mean I can't say for certain but I would actually bet that is what happened.
Never in human history has a drug suddenly killed everyone who took it, or even close.
This was posted a while ago about how Theralizumab came close in clinical trials.
In its first human clinical trials, it caused catastrophic systemic organ failures in the subjects, despite being administered at a supposed sub-clinical dose of 0.1 mg per kg, some 500 times lower than the dose found safe in animals. Six volunteers were hospitalized on 13 March 2006, at least four of these suffering from multiple organ dysfunction.
The trial was a double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled study, with two of the eight subjects receiving a placebo, and six receiving 1/500th of the highest dose used in previous experiments with cynomolgus macaques. All six of the trial subjects who received the drug were male, aged 19 to 34 (median 29.5); none had a notable medical history, and all were well in the 2 weeks before the trial. The drug was given by intravenous infusion, starting at 8am, with an interval of around 10 minutes between patients, and each infusion lasting from 3 to 6 minutes. Roughly fifty minutes after the first participant received his dose, he complained of a headache, and soon afterwards fever and pain. He took his shirt off, complaining that he felt like he was burning. Shortly after, the remaining participants who received the actual drug also became ill, vomiting and complaining of severe pain.
Thalidomide had another issue - medication must not be tested on pregnant women, for obvious reasons. Even if we assume the researchers to have been 100% diligent and truthful, the VEGF interaction couldn't have been discovered in clinical trials.
I went and looked...OP started the other thread on this topic. Sounds to me like someone got the jab and is now looking for reassurances that they won't die from sudden, explosive anal prolapse or some shit two years from now
As someone who works in pharma, (some of) the industry isn't maliciously evil, but rather bureaucratically evil. Companies don't develop drug products with the intention of hurting their consumers; that's just bad business. Instead, products are developed with an eye towards maximizing revenue within the confines of FDA's approval and exclusivity practices.
In short, this usually manifests as a combination of regulatory games, liability avoidance, and a preference for chronic treatment. If FDA offers a pathway with lower regulatory overhead, the industry will take it. If a minimally efficacious drug is approved by FDA unexpectedly, the sponsor will happily accept the approval. The emergency authorization has shielded vaccine manufacturers from all liability, so usual concerns about adverse events instead receive minimal attention: the liability that usually exists for unlabeled side effects and contraindications has been removed. Exclusivity also comes with the process here, since there will be no generics for unapproved drugs.
And lastly, chronic treatment. Why would the pharma industry want to kill you, when you can get a booster every year instead?
All COVID vaccines in the US plausibly carry a greater risk than other, existing vaccines, simply because we don't know how to label them to avoid preventable adverse events. There may also be greater risk inherent to the accelerated development of these vaccines, which is one of many unknowns that muddy the picture. The risk-benefit calculus is different for everyone, but if you're under the age of 50, it's likely unwise for you to be vaccinated today. But those who do choose to be vaccinated won't die en masse; that was never a realistic outcome.
The lack of liability is what gets me. If you're confident in your product, why do you need it? Voided liability makes no sense. Limited liability, I could see: People drop dead all the time and greedy vultures will label the cause of death whatever profits themselves most, so sure, SOME protections when someone crashes their bike and the family calls Vaxx Car Craxx. Some sanity barriers pre-emptively put in place to minimalize legal cost to the company. But complete immunity, even if it is traceable and provably related?
If someone shows up to a protest in a hazmat suit with a flamethrower, you don't assume they're just there for purely necessary minimal self-defense. Overprotection is highly suspect. You don't wear a full suit of armor to a carnival, even if it is purely "defensive" armor that will never need to be used. And you don't give Big Pharma blanket protections when merely "proved due diligence" protections would do.
Much like the "9/11 was an inside job" conspiracy, this one is simply too big to succeed.
There's no way you'd be able to keep everyone quiet who'd have to be in on the plan. Everyone from unknown researchers to the CEOs would have to be kept quiet. There's just no way someone wouldn't blow the whistle for the book deal money alone.
That's why I doubt these apocalyptic predictions. I haven't seen any evidence that would lead to a mass culling, and if that really were the case, people would already be testifying about it and the elites would definitely not get away with it. A stolen election is nothing compared to the idea of 50% of the US population being wiped out from mere injections.
It wasn’t an inside job as in they planned it, we already know what happened is that they knew about it ahead of time, but let it happen because they needed a pretense to invade Iraq.
I don't know. Odds are I won't ever know. But I am so fucking utterly put off by the absolute psychosis that mainstream society has whipped itself into over the vaccine that I will take my chances with the virus.
Trump is very pro-life which makes it incredibly ironic for him to be in support of these vaccines. Either he doesn't know the dangers of it, or he somehow does but can't speak out against them because someone like Kushner is probably holding him by the balls or something.
What makes it further ironic is that I remember back in 2016 times or close to that, he spoke out against how vaccines have given children autism and other things.
My blind guess, taking into consideration the fact that there are multiple vaccine lines in circulation from different sources and development methods...
I believe that roughly 5% of the immunized population will have some health complication in the next five years as a result of immunization.
Even if it is limited to only 5 percent of the immunized population that ends up having serious health problems or fatalities due to the vaccines, that rate would still be much higher than the risk of a healthy individual having serious problems or fatalities due to a COVID-19 infection.
I think when the dust settles the FDA will belatedly admit that SOME of these vaccines would not have gotten approval were it not for the emergency, test-in-the-wild situation.
Allowing these vaccines to go forward is the one thing that I hate about Trump, despite the fact that he has been the best president we've had in decades. He even knew HCQ worked against covid.. not sure why he allowed it to be suppressed instead of fighting to keep it available.
I don't fault Trump for not changing horses mid-crisis
A pandemic is in some ways a very unintuitive and alien sort of disaster. The sort of thing that actually IS best left to experts... when they're worthy of that trust.
The real problem here was that Fauci has been in his seat since 1984. He should have been nudged out the door in the early 00's.
He also bungled the last epidemic he was supposed to deal with, AIDS. For much the same reasons, proper response is politically untenable.
You are not allowed to shut down all travel from China. You are not allowed to tell the gays to keep it in their pants so they don't practically genocide themselves
My family got vaccinated, at this point I'm just hoping they don't become part of the unfortunate percentage that shits the bed. Same for friends I've known in my life. So far I have not heard of any seriously threatening adverse reactions for any of them. I figure that probably would've happened by now because it's been months that many of them got it.
Most medical long-term concerns take two forms: Time of birth, and time of death.
Time of birth: Fertility, carry-to-term, early/late, birth defects, baby-age developmental defects.
Time of death: Cancers, basically. There's other stuff, organ malfunctions that pile up over time, but 90% of the time, cancer. This thing causes lung cancer in 40 years, that thing causes uterine cancer in 15 years, etc etc.
Even if it is limited to only 5 percent of the immunized population that ends up having serious health problems or fatalities due to the vaccines
You've made up your mind: 'vaccines bad', and if turns out that they did far more good than harm, as is very likely, you will just play the journalist and pretend that your record of bad predictions never happeened.
You made up your mind: "experimental vaccines: good" and if turns out that they did far more harm than good, as is very likely, you will just play the journalist and pretend that your record of bad predictions never happened.
In the next five years, there is definitely going to be an uptick in ALL sorts of health issues. Between depression and related behavioral changes, obesity and activity related cardiovascular problems, and reduced exposure to other respiratory viruses, the next few years are going to be brutal.
The trick will be isolating causation.
With all the noise caused by the socioeconomic disruptions, I don't think we'll ever truly be able to disentangle the increased morbidity due to the vaccines from the increased morbidity due to the entire fucking first world losing its goddamn mind for a couple years.
I've known a few people who had months long depression after getting the vaccination. I would guess many deaths are going to end up suicide, but not be counted as such.
I don't know what harmful effects the vaccine may have, but I do know that my risk of dying from Covid is pretty much nonexistent (I already have naturally acquired immunity), and that I or my survivors can't sue pharma companies if the vaccine causes serious adverse effects.
I have some mild concerns about what happens if the body starts trying to bind to the wrong end of the spike protein, or that missense proteins might be produced, either through regular transciption errors, or poor quality control.
So I'm perfectly content to let others take the stuff. Not me or my immediate family. The risk/benefit might be worth it for the grandparents, though
including annual jabs as well as mass gun confiscation and famine by seizing control of the food supplies
like Canada? Purchased Pfizer Booster shots until 2024, made nearly all guns illegal in 2020 and now making anything that looks like a gun illegal, and have food boards to limit supply. Trudeau's also mentioned he's using this to "reimagine economic systems." Vaccine passports which are starting to be implemented also act as a way to force future injections.
The big issue is all that we don't know. Potential risks for severe effects are ignored or silenced, without proper study or being mentioned. There have been deaths from blood clots and anaphylaxis, nerve damage, myocarditis in youth, many women experiencing period issues, and multiple proofs that the injection spread everywhere including passing the blood-brain barrier, and that the spike protein is in breast milk. The spike protein itself causes damage.
It hasn't been long enough to know if this will affect reproduction, and long term affects in youth, or anyone else (aside from the known long-term effects of the type of damage we can already see). With heart damage, that permanently increases the probability of heart attacks or other severe problems. For most, they might not suffer issues in the short term, but it could still cut some of their lifespans by decades.
mRNA is being described as code, and when you have a massive supply of guinea pigs, it lets you test different things and how it affects different people. What can you do if you can hack people.
Problem with "antidotes" for potential future dangers from taking them now, is that are you going to trust the same people who created the problem to fix it instead of making it worse. If they can financially benefit from fixing the problem, it incentivizes creating the problem. That may have influenced the trashing of HCQ and invermectin.
My larger worry is about The Great Reset and connected goals. Things they have publicly stated and are publicly doing (although may also downplay or call conspiracy theories). I see most deaths as being a lack of care, or as an excuse to exceed normal legal and political authority instead of being the goal. The way they count covid cases and deaths includes many more than legitimate, then there's the nursing home deaths.
I also have no willing to believe it. If God forbid somehow lets it actually be a true prediction, than the elites 100% need to have their heads and limbs all ripped from their bodies immediately. Like I said in the OP, every family would be effected by such a monstrosity. This would be a billion times worse than any stolen election.
Does anyone here really believe in everyone vaccinated dying off in a few years?
I have a conspiratorial mind and a few trust issues, but I do not believe this heavily influenced and rushed vaccine product will outright kill everyone injected with it. My main concerns involve the spike protean and it theorised side effects, such as heart failure, stroke and even sterility. This spike protean does not effect everyone but it does seam to target certain individuals in the gene-pool with a specific sequence.
No, vaccines are mostly ok, but I will not take an experimental drug when I can just stay at home anyway (and not for no reason, my entire family is in severe risk categories).
Consent to believe in the suggested idol "vaccine" VAC'CINE, adjective [Latin vaccinus, from vacca, a cow.] is what causes the conflict of reason (true vs false) for anything suggested in the name of the idol...control by division through suggestion.
As long as mankind consents to suggestions; so long will those who suggest; contradict both sides of the resulting conflict of reason to stay in control.
There's an adverse vaccine reporting system in the US. I'm not sure what it's up to, but back in March there had been 700+ reported deaths related to the COVID vaccine compared to 20 to the normal flu vaccine. And Harvard's work seems to indicate that only about 1% of adverse reactions to vaccines are actually reported.
Vaccination campaign suspended after 54 cases of Guillain–Barré syndrome and about 25 reported deaths.
Out of how many? And what was the cost-benefit?
I do not doubt that these particular vaccinations are also pushed dishonestly, but there's also a crowd that spouts stupid nonsense about the vaccines from an anti-position.
More people have died to COVID vaccines in the last 6 months than have died to all other vaccines in the last 10 years combined.
It's an unfortunate situation. On one end, you want it to go tits up just to tell people you told them so, but on the other end... I don't want people to get hurt by it. Very conflicted.
Copy/Paste my own comment from the last vax death in X years thread:
Fatality in 2 years is psyop nonsense designed to discourage actual concerns about the vax. There may be long term effects on fertility, potential increased cancer risk, many other side effects that are unknown and can't possibly be known for years yet. And that's the entire point, we cannot know any mid to long term effects of the vax or any medication until there have been test cases around that long. Thalidomide side effects took 6 years to manifest. [Reply mentioned it was 6 years to find the cause, effects started appearing around 6 months] There may also be no long term effects at all, we just can't know now. So it's perfectly reasonable to be leery, weigh your known risks of the Shanghai Shivers vs potential unknowns, and decide to not get vaxxed.
All my money is on birth defects and/or sterility. Ten years from now we'll be reading headlines about how the DNC tried to warn us about Trump's toxic baby killer potion but white people were just too darn evil to listen. Count on it.
Never in human history has a drug suddenly killed everyone who took it, or even close. Even back when medicine amounted to "here, smoke this hallucinogenic herb I found growing in the jungle and maybe something good will happen", death by medicine was extremely rare.
...or fact that antibiotics hadn't been yet invented to fight secondary infections.
Yeah I won't lie that stuff is pretty darn compelling when you look it up. I mean I can't say for certain but I would actually bet that is what happened.
This was posted a while ago about how Theralizumab came close in clinical trials.
Shit got real very fast.
Imagine being guy #6, having just got your dose and seeing guy #1 have a real bad time.
Pros: They know what's going to happen in 50 minutes.
Cons: They know what's going to happen in 50 minutes.
Thalidomide had another issue - medication must not be tested on pregnant women, for obvious reasons. Even if we assume the researchers to have been 100% diligent and truthful, the VEGF interaction couldn't have been discovered in clinical trials.
It's a strawman argument that's been memed into the mainstream lefty consciousness
Recently, there seems to be an uptick in randos posting about the vax here with a subtle flavor of concern trolling.
I went and looked...OP started the other thread on this topic. Sounds to me like someone got the jab and is now looking for reassurances that they won't die from sudden, explosive anal prolapse or some shit two years from now
No. But, in 10-30 years "My name is Doug, and I have Fauci's Sarcoma..."
No no, it has to have a cutsey rhyme even if you butcher the words to force it to fit. "It's Trumpus Lupus."
No, it's a much more boring dystopia than that.
As someone who works in pharma, (some of) the industry isn't maliciously evil, but rather bureaucratically evil. Companies don't develop drug products with the intention of hurting their consumers; that's just bad business. Instead, products are developed with an eye towards maximizing revenue within the confines of FDA's approval and exclusivity practices.
In short, this usually manifests as a combination of regulatory games, liability avoidance, and a preference for chronic treatment. If FDA offers a pathway with lower regulatory overhead, the industry will take it. If a minimally efficacious drug is approved by FDA unexpectedly, the sponsor will happily accept the approval. The emergency authorization has shielded vaccine manufacturers from all liability, so usual concerns about adverse events instead receive minimal attention: the liability that usually exists for unlabeled side effects and contraindications has been removed. Exclusivity also comes with the process here, since there will be no generics for unapproved drugs.
And lastly, chronic treatment. Why would the pharma industry want to kill you, when you can get a booster every year instead?
All COVID vaccines in the US plausibly carry a greater risk than other, existing vaccines, simply because we don't know how to label them to avoid preventable adverse events. There may also be greater risk inherent to the accelerated development of these vaccines, which is one of many unknowns that muddy the picture. The risk-benefit calculus is different for everyone, but if you're under the age of 50, it's likely unwise for you to be vaccinated today. But those who do choose to be vaccinated won't die en masse; that was never a realistic outcome.
The lack of liability is what gets me. If you're confident in your product, why do you need it? Voided liability makes no sense. Limited liability, I could see: People drop dead all the time and greedy vultures will label the cause of death whatever profits themselves most, so sure, SOME protections when someone crashes their bike and the family calls Vaxx Car Craxx. Some sanity barriers pre-emptively put in place to minimalize legal cost to the company. But complete immunity, even if it is traceable and provably related?
If someone shows up to a protest in a hazmat suit with a flamethrower, you don't assume they're just there for purely necessary minimal self-defense. Overprotection is highly suspect. You don't wear a full suit of armor to a carnival, even if it is purely "defensive" armor that will never need to be used. And you don't give Big Pharma blanket protections when merely "proved due diligence" protections would do.
Atm I think the damage inflicted by these vaccines is just because of incompetence, rather than actual willful intended evil meant to genocide.
Much like the "9/11 was an inside job" conspiracy, this one is simply too big to succeed.
There's no way you'd be able to keep everyone quiet who'd have to be in on the plan. Everyone from unknown researchers to the CEOs would have to be kept quiet. There's just no way someone wouldn't blow the whistle for the book deal money alone.
That's why I doubt these apocalyptic predictions. I haven't seen any evidence that would lead to a mass culling, and if that really were the case, people would already be testifying about it and the elites would definitely not get away with it. A stolen election is nothing compared to the idea of 50% of the US population being wiped out from mere injections.
Hell you probably couldn't keep Fauci from blowing the whistle just so he could be on CNN again.
It wasn’t an inside job as in they planned it, we already know what happened is that they knew about it ahead of time, but let it happen because they needed a pretense to invade Iraq.
I don't know. Odds are I won't ever know. But I am so fucking utterly put off by the absolute psychosis that mainstream society has whipped itself into over the vaccine that I will take my chances with the virus.
Trump is very pro-life which makes it incredibly ironic for him to be in support of these vaccines. Either he doesn't know the dangers of it, or he somehow does but can't speak out against them because someone like Kushner is probably holding him by the balls or something.
What makes it further ironic is that I remember back in 2016 times or close to that, he spoke out against how vaccines have given children autism and other things.
There is no reason to believe that Trump is pro-life, or that he would be aware of dangers of vaccines if they had any.
The cells that produce the spike proteins are killed and digested by natural killer cells and macrophages, respectively.
My blind guess, taking into consideration the fact that there are multiple vaccine lines in circulation from different sources and development methods...
I believe that roughly 5% of the immunized population will have some health complication in the next five years as a result of immunization.
Even if it is limited to only 5 percent of the immunized population that ends up having serious health problems or fatalities due to the vaccines, that rate would still be much higher than the risk of a healthy individual having serious problems or fatalities due to a COVID-19 infection.
Fuck no to these experimental vaccines.
Yes.
I think when the dust settles the FDA will belatedly admit that SOME of these vaccines would not have gotten approval were it not for the emergency, test-in-the-wild situation.
They will likely blame their favorite Orange Man for rushed approval when they finally admit that these COVID vaccines DO have some serious problems.
Allowing these vaccines to go forward is the one thing that I hate about Trump, despite the fact that he has been the best president we've had in decades. He even knew HCQ worked against covid.. not sure why he allowed it to be suppressed instead of fighting to keep it available.
I don't fault Trump for not changing horses mid-crisis
A pandemic is in some ways a very unintuitive and alien sort of disaster. The sort of thing that actually IS best left to experts... when they're worthy of that trust.
The real problem here was that Fauci has been in his seat since 1984. He should have been nudged out the door in the early 00's.
He also bungled the last epidemic he was supposed to deal with, AIDS. For much the same reasons, proper response is politically untenable.
You are not allowed to shut down all travel from China. You are not allowed to tell the gays to keep it in their pants so they don't practically genocide themselves
He should have been nudged out in the 80's...
My family got vaccinated, at this point I'm just hoping they don't become part of the unfortunate percentage that shits the bed. Same for friends I've known in my life. So far I have not heard of any seriously threatening adverse reactions for any of them. I figure that probably would've happened by now because it's been months that many of them got it.
Most medical long-term concerns take two forms: Time of birth, and time of death.
Time of birth: Fertility, carry-to-term, early/late, birth defects, baby-age developmental defects.
Time of death: Cancers, basically. There's other stuff, organ malfunctions that pile up over time, but 90% of the time, cancer. This thing causes lung cancer in 40 years, that thing causes uterine cancer in 15 years, etc etc.
You've made up your mind: 'vaccines bad', and if turns out that they did far more good than harm, as is very likely, you will just play the journalist and pretend that your record of bad predictions never happeened.
You made up your mind: "experimental vaccines: good" and if turns out that they did far more harm than good, as is very likely, you will just play the journalist and pretend that your record of bad predictions never happened.
False. I do point out the cost-benefit ratio. For older people, these experimental vaccines are very good. For 30-year-olds? Probably not.
AoV, just gonna throw this in:
In the next five years, there is definitely going to be an uptick in ALL sorts of health issues. Between depression and related behavioral changes, obesity and activity related cardiovascular problems, and reduced exposure to other respiratory viruses, the next few years are going to be brutal.
The trick will be isolating causation.
With all the noise caused by the socioeconomic disruptions, I don't think we'll ever truly be able to disentangle the increased morbidity due to the vaccines from the increased morbidity due to the entire fucking first world losing its goddamn mind for a couple years.
You could compare stats to Florida Man, whose mind was already gone and therefore was left a bit less mind-lost from this madness.
Hopefully (that's including me).
Will pour one out should it happen, sacrifices for another should be honored
I've known a few people who had months long depression after getting the vaccination. I would guess many deaths are going to end up suicide, but not be counted as such.
I don't know what harmful effects the vaccine may have, but I do know that my risk of dying from Covid is pretty much nonexistent (I already have naturally acquired immunity), and that I or my survivors can't sue pharma companies if the vaccine causes serious adverse effects.
I have some mild concerns about what happens if the body starts trying to bind to the wrong end of the spike protein, or that missense proteins might be produced, either through regular transciption errors, or poor quality control.
So I'm perfectly content to let others take the stuff. Not me or my immediate family. The risk/benefit might be worth it for the grandparents, though
like Canada? Purchased Pfizer Booster shots until 2024, made nearly all guns illegal in 2020 and now making anything that looks like a gun illegal, and have food boards to limit supply. Trudeau's also mentioned he's using this to "reimagine economic systems." Vaccine passports which are starting to be implemented also act as a way to force future injections.
The big issue is all that we don't know. Potential risks for severe effects are ignored or silenced, without proper study or being mentioned. There have been deaths from blood clots and anaphylaxis, nerve damage, myocarditis in youth, many women experiencing period issues, and multiple proofs that the injection spread everywhere including passing the blood-brain barrier, and that the spike protein is in breast milk. The spike protein itself causes damage.
It hasn't been long enough to know if this will affect reproduction, and long term affects in youth, or anyone else (aside from the known long-term effects of the type of damage we can already see). With heart damage, that permanently increases the probability of heart attacks or other severe problems. For most, they might not suffer issues in the short term, but it could still cut some of their lifespans by decades.
mRNA is being described as code, and when you have a massive supply of guinea pigs, it lets you test different things and how it affects different people. What can you do if you can hack people.
Problem with "antidotes" for potential future dangers from taking them now, is that are you going to trust the same people who created the problem to fix it instead of making it worse. If they can financially benefit from fixing the problem, it incentivizes creating the problem. That may have influenced the trashing of HCQ and invermectin.
My larger worry is about The Great Reset and connected goals. Things they have publicly stated and are publicly doing (although may also downplay or call conspiracy theories). I see most deaths as being a lack of care, or as an excuse to exceed normal legal and political authority instead of being the goal. The way they count covid cases and deaths includes many more than legitimate, then there's the nursing home deaths.
With the amount of eco crazies in science, I am hard pressed not to believe it being done "in the name of mother gaia"
I don't want to believe it, for obvious reasons, I'm very willing to be proven wrong.
I also have no willing to believe it. If God forbid somehow lets it actually be a true prediction, than the elites 100% need to have their heads and limbs all ripped from their bodies immediately. Like I said in the OP, every family would be effected by such a monstrosity. This would be a billion times worse than any stolen election.
I cannot say what I want to say.
I have a conspiratorial mind and a few trust issues, but I do not believe this heavily influenced and rushed vaccine product will outright kill everyone injected with it. My main concerns involve the spike protean and it theorised side effects, such as heart failure, stroke and even sterility. This spike protean does not effect everyone but it does seam to target certain individuals in the gene-pool with a specific sequence.
They're dumbasses.
No, vaccines are mostly ok, but I will not take an experimental drug when I can just stay at home anyway (and not for no reason, my entire family is in severe risk categories).
I have the same basic reasoning as you. Pushing a vaccine that will kill everyone in 2-3 years is suicide for those who push it.
I'm not letting my arm fall off in 15 years time for unknown reasons. I was never at risk, and I'm not going to be gaslit into pretending I ever was.
Consent to believe in the suggested idol "vaccine" VAC'CINE, adjective [Latin vaccinus, from vacca, a cow.] is what causes the conflict of reason (true vs false) for anything suggested in the name of the idol...control by division through suggestion.
As long as mankind consents to suggestions; so long will those who suggest; contradict both sides of the resulting conflict of reason to stay in control.
That so? Or do you just underestimate the amount of death that other vaccines cause - which are fully justified given the benefits that they provide?
There's an adverse vaccine reporting system in the US. I'm not sure what it's up to, but back in March there had been 700+ reported deaths related to the COVID vaccine compared to 20 to the normal flu vaccine. And Harvard's work seems to indicate that only about 1% of adverse reactions to vaccines are actually reported.
5888 deaths so far. Thousands hospitalized.
https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data
Out of how many? And what was the cost-benefit?
I do not doubt that these particular vaccinations are also pushed dishonestly, but there's also a crowd that spouts stupid nonsense about the vaccines from an anti-position.
Is that true?
It's an unfortunate situation. On one end, you want it to go tits up just to tell people you told them so, but on the other end... I don't want people to get hurt by it. Very conflicted.
And from there it'll take about a month for the massive gaggle of hens to go extinct.