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posted 3 years ago by velocistar 3 years ago by velocistar +36 / -2
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– CptLightning 39 points 3 years ago +40 / -1

Copy/Paste my own comment from the last vax death in X years thread:

Fatality in 2 years is psyop nonsense designed to discourage actual concerns about the vax. There may be long term effects on fertility, potential increased cancer risk, many other side effects that are unknown and can't possibly be known for years yet. And that's the entire point, we cannot know any mid to long term effects of the vax or any medication until there have been test cases around that long. Thalidomide side effects took 6 years to manifest. [Reply mentioned it was 6 years to find the cause, effects started appearing around 6 months] There may also be no long term effects at all, we just can't know now. So it's perfectly reasonable to be leery, weigh your known risks of the Shanghai Shivers vs potential unknowns, and decide to not get vaxxed.

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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 26 points 3 years ago +26 / -0

All my money is on birth defects and/or sterility. Ten years from now we'll be reading headlines about how the DNC tried to warn us about Trump's toxic baby killer potion but white people were just too darn evil to listen. Count on it.

Never in human history has a drug suddenly killed everyone who took it, or even close. Even back when medicine amounted to "here, smoke this hallucinogenic herb I found growing in the jungle and maybe something good will happen", death by medicine was extremely rare.

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– deleted 6 points 3 years ago +9 / -3
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– Rexmo 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

...or fact that antibiotics hadn't been yet invented to fight secondary infections.

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
... continue reading thread?
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– Devidose 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Never in human history has a drug suddenly killed everyone who took it, or even close.

This was posted a while ago about how Theralizumab came close in clinical trials.

In its first human clinical trials, it caused catastrophic systemic organ failures in the subjects, despite being administered at a supposed sub-clinical dose of 0.1 mg per kg, some 500 times lower than the dose found safe in animals. Six volunteers were hospitalized on 13 March 2006, at least four of these suffering from multiple organ dysfunction.

The trial was a double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled study, with two of the eight subjects receiving a placebo, and six receiving 1/500th of the highest dose used in previous experiments with cynomolgus macaques. All six of the trial subjects who received the drug were male, aged 19 to 34 (median 29.5); none had a notable medical history, and all were well in the 2 weeks before the trial. The drug was given by intravenous infusion, starting at 8am, with an interval of around 10 minutes between patients, and each infusion lasting from 3 to 6 minutes. Roughly fifty minutes after the first participant received his dose, he complained of a headache, and soon afterwards fever and pain. He took his shirt off, complaining that he felt like he was burning. Shortly after, the remaining participants who received the actual drug also became ill, vomiting and complaining of severe pain.

Shit got real very fast.

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– wowinim 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Imagine being guy #6, having just got your dose and seeing guy #1 have a real bad time.

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– CarmenOfSandiego 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Pros: They know what's going to happen in 50 minutes.

Cons: They know what's going to happen in 50 minutes.

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– send_it 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

Thalidomide had another issue - medication must not be tested on pregnant women, for obvious reasons. Even if we assume the researchers to have been 100% diligent and truthful, the VEGF interaction couldn't have been discovered in clinical trials.

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– LauriThorne 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

It's a strawman argument that's been memed into the mainstream lefty consciousness

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