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Virginia moving to eliminate all accelerated math courses before 11th grade as part of equity-focused plan (archive.is)
posted 5 years ago by altmehere 5 years ago by altmehere +89 / -0
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– Galean 46 points 5 years ago +46 / -0

"Differentiated instruction is designed to provide the appropriate levels of challenge and academic rigor for each student."

What the hell does this mean? Does this mean that each kid is going to be given different homework, different tests? How does that make sense?

Hey Diamond good job on the math test 2+2=racism was the correct answer.

Hey John you were horribly wrong, you did well except on your final answer you forgot the C, ∫sin(x)dx=-cos(x) +C and you forgot the C at the end. So I now have to fail you.

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– exilde 32 points 5 years ago +32 / -0

No, it means that concepts will be taught at the capabilities of the lowest common denominator.

Welcome to Common Core.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 29 points 5 years ago +29 / -0

God damned arbitrary constant. And our calc teacher was formerly an engineer who worked on the Space Shuttle, so he wasn't the type to it slide.

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– Soup_Navy_Admiral 19 points 5 years ago +19 / -0

he wasn't the type to it slide.

Omitted "let". -10 points.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

Fortunately like many engineers he was shit at writing.

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– yvaN_ehT_nioJ 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

I hated having to do differentiated instruction when I was in. (Just for a year thank God lol)

Imagine you have 100-110 students, half are on a 504 or IEP (think kids with eg, dyslexia, autism), another quarter are English language learners (so they can't even understand what you say), and the remaining 3rd are normal kids that just want to make it thru the day.

With differentiated instruction I'd have to somehow prep work that accommodated all these different groups. It sucked

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– exilde 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

I don't think it means quite what you took it as, when you were involved.

Differentiated instruction meant that each student had their own rate of advancement. This ain't that.

Equity is the key word, here. The "difference" is that the kids that understand the lesson are expected to work with their classmates to find a collective solution.

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– yvaN_ehT_nioJ 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Man I'm glad I'm out

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– exilde 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Don't blame you

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– yvaN_ehT_nioJ 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

It's a shame in a sense, I'm against the woke stuff so any kids coming up through the school system today need more teachers like that but man. The students aside, I was actually losing sleep over having to teach out of crap like Howard Zinn to 8th graders. That was in the mid-10s and it's no doubt gotten worse

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– deleted 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0
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– censorthisss 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

I read that line as supporting accelerated classes, but maybe I'm wrong. I didn't read the whole thing.

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– Galean 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

I may have not understood correctly that part.

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– WhitePhoenix 27 points 5 years ago +27 / -0

I still find it interesting the traditional stereotype is that us Asians are good at math, and black folks are supposedly bad at reading.

If Virginia wants to make the cuckery complete, they're going to remove regular English courses as well.

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– deleted 41 points 5 years ago +41 / -0
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– lgbtqwtfbbq 27 points 5 years ago +27 / -0

It may still be a useful shibboleth to distinguish between Blacks who probably aren't going to be productive members of society and those who can be.

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– TheWestYearZero 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Ask an ebonics speaker to produce (or comprehend) standard communication for the workplace, commerce or science and technology.

Can't do it.

We have language standards and measure competencies for reasons.

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– deleted 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

I tried to say that ebonics ("AAVE") was a fundamentally wrong way to speak and then I was piled on by a bunch of NPCs about how I was wrong.

Wrong in what way though? Yes, it sounds retarded, and people will consider you really stupid if you speak it, but if you look at from a linguistic point of view, it is just another dialect of English.

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– throwawayaccount2037 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

if the overarching goal of society is to have people actually communicate effectively with one another (across classes, races, etc).

That is literally NOT one of the goals of our current society (as dictated by the Rainbow Reich and the Lunatic Leftists).

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– Adamrises 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

Because we have a commonly agreed upon written English that is used to standardize education across the nation. Of which, we use to teach our children how to speak at higher levels.

You can talk however you want, but it literally only exists because of how much it "fails" most basic English rules, otherwise it wouldn't be considered big enough to be named over Minnesota or Maine dialects.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

it literally only exists because of how much it "fails" most basic English rules

It's not as if "standard English" existed first and Ebonics evolved out of that. It's just a variant of the hillbilly/Southern dialect, which evolved alongside standard English, and is also just as valid as standard English, in linguistic terms. (Note that the PC crowd never defends the hillbilly accent, and they often mock it as people being uneducated and stupid.)

You might as well say that French is a language for idiots and morons because it 'fails' most basic Latin rules. No ablative! Sacre bleu! And Latin is a language for morons because it has only five endings, rather than the eight from Indo-European.

The point is not to defend Ebonics, or to say that it should be taught. It's good for kids to learn to speak standard English, or they will not be able to get ahead in life. The point is that people are raised with different dialects, and that the fact that one dialect is used by the political center is not a reason to have negative judgments about people who speak with a different dialect.

otherwise it wouldn't be considered big enough to be named over Minnesota or Maine dialects.

I am not sure what this means.

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– tobeornotto 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Is it just another diallect though?

I'd argue that a dialect, and I speak with one, is a verbal trait. If speaking ebonics was just another dialect, its speakers would have no issues communicating in writing in the common tongue - which emphasises clarity and meaning over whatever it is that dialects communicate.

But that's not what we're observing though, is it? We don't generally see those who speak ebonics switch to writing English proper.

It's almost as if ebonics is the only dialect they know, even after two decades in the education system.

If the Portuguese can pick up English from not dubbing their TV shows, what kind of argument is it that Amercans somehow can't due to an underfunded education system (that spends more per student than any other nation) when they're steeped in the languge?

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

It's almost as if ebonics is the only dialect they know, even after two decades in the education system.

That's pretty breathtaking, yes.

It's a massive failure of the 'education' system, which apparently focuses on teaching them that they are victims and that they should blame Whitey for everything that goes wrong in their lives.

If I haven't been clear enough, of course everyone should be able to speak the standard version of the language. All I said is that I do not think regional dialects are any lesser, even if those people are unable to speak/write the common tongue. Purely from a linguistic POV, that distinction is arbitrary.

If the Portuguese can pick up English from not dubbing their TV shows, what kind of argument is it that Amercans somehow can't due to an underfunded education system (that spends more per student than any other nation) when they're steeped in the languge?

That's a good question. I myself picked up English from such sources. I once got into a fight with some SJWs, who then didn't believe that I am European and that English is my third language, because it's "too good". They apparently thought that this was an insult.

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– Adamrises 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

It's just a variant of the hillbilly/Southern dialect

Did you know the distance between the heart of the Appalachian mountains and most of the South is 500+ miles? Not a strong opening on your knowledge on the topic.

Note that the PC crowd never defends the hillbilly accent, and they often mock it as people being uneducated and stupid

I'm aware, because I have a thick Cajun accent. I was bullied quite heavily by my more "progressive" classmates after I moved because they assumed all sorts of evils because of the way I talk.

They also make the same mistake you keep doing of calling Hillbillies and Southerners interchangable.

But even in my area of the dirty south we were forced to learn to know how to speak and write the agreed upon "standard English" of our education system, and then had our casual relaxed speech for when we weren't in professional environments.

The point is that people are raised with different dialects

Yeah and most of us get dunked on for it, have it forcefully removed from us by the government (Cajun French was nearly eradicated by forceful government measures), and don't get to just cry victim when it gets us judged.

That's the issue people have. AAVE gets special protections and elevated as something sacred that we must not make fun of. Shit it got renamed to make it sound more academic over Ebonics.

I am not sure what this means.

Those two states are famous for having incredibly heavy accents. Unlike AAVE , they still meet most basic English rules so they aren't considered very special (that's why they don't have a special name). Because AAVE is infamous for exactly how wrong it is, we had to make a special name for it.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Did you know the distance between the heart of the Appalachian mountains and most of the South is 500+ miles? Not a strong opening on your knowledge on the topic.

To me, they sound the same.

But even in my area of the dirty south we were forced to learn to know how to speak and write the agreed upon "standard English" of our education system, and then had our casual relaxed speech for when we weren't in professional environments.

And that's the way it should be. What do you think I'm arguing for? Not that Ebonics is perfectly fine and that it should be taught in schools. Only that it is no less valid as a dialect than Standard English.

That's the issue people have. AAVE gets special protections and elevated as something sacred that we must not make fun of. Shit it got renamed to make it sound more academic over Ebonics.

And that is also true. I think I noted that there is a hypocrisy between how the left regards mocking the accents of blacks and Southerners - even though they are rather similar. If you mock blacks with 'dindu', that is racism, but if you mock Southerners, then you're a comedic genius.

Unlike AAVE , they still meet most basic English rules so they aren't considered very special (that's why they don't have a special name). Because AAVE is infamous for exactly how wrong it is, we had to make a special name for it.

I'm pretty sure "AAVE" also meets most basic English rules. Similarly, in places like Philly they say 'yous'.

But note that my point is not about AAVE. It's only that you cannot say that the version of the language spoken in political centers as the 'correct' version and others as 'wrong'. I regard that as elitist and wrong. That doesn't mean that children should not be taught the 'prestige dialect' as it is called for they future.

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– Kweebecker 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

AAVE, pidgin, they're dialects of english... You know what else is?

Bri'ish. And 'stralian. And 'murrikan.

Just tossing this out here, if we had classes, specific education, on how to talk Australian, and a different one for how to talk American, and a different one for how to talk British, and another for Jamaican, and another for "Black"...

Kids hate English class already, and we only have to teach them one language. English teachers are already at wits end. To add in the more egregious dialects as common core education? Bin tink fluffy tachas no like dat, man.

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Hell no, that Ebonics should be taught wasn't at all what I meant. Because unfair though it may be, people are judged for speaking with an Ebonics/hillbilly accent, and you will find less success in your life if you are going around speaking one of these stigmatized accents. Also, people will be less able to understand you.

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– TheWestYearZero 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

look at it from a linguistics point of view.

Says someone with no background in linguistics.

Ask an ebonics user to produce or even comprehend a writtten or spoken report. Even "What I did in my summer break."

He will not be able to do it!

Now send him to university to read and comprehend textbooks, take classroom notes, and produce summaries, syntheses or analyses of those texts or notes.

What? He can't do it? But ebonics is just as good as standard American English!

A linguistics expert on .win told me so!

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Ask an ebonics user to produce or even comprehend a writtten or spoken report. Even "What I did in my summer break."

How does that show that Ebonics is any more or less valid than standard English?

It shows the monumental failure of the American 'educational' system, which appears to just be able indoctrinating children into the cult-like beliefs of the loony teachers.

Now send him to university to read and comprehend textbooks, take classroom notes, and produce summaries, syntheses or analyses of those texts or notes.

Ah, I see that you're trying to say that it is not desirable for a kid to only know Ebonics. I completely agree with that. The point is not that there is no need for a common language that facilitates communication, but only that from an objective standpoint, Ebonics is no better or worse as a language than Standard English.

What? He can't do it? But ebonics is just as good as standard American English!

If all textbooks etc. were written in Ebonics, then that would not make Ebonics any better than Standard English.

As for lingustiics experts... see John McWhorter.

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– norwegianwikin 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Centuries of co-existence, still can't speak the language. I believe that got me a ban on some sub.

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– BulbasaurusThe7th 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

It also fucks up actual foreign people learning English. They fuck over the immigrants they supposedly love so much. Without proper, concrete rules and something constant about the language, it's fucking impossible to learn it and function.

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– AntonioOfVenice 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Will the Asians revolt? No.

There will not be a one-time event or a revolution in attitudes as there was in the anti-leftist turn of the Jews of Europe, but just like Latinos, there will be a gradual erosion of support for leftism.

And funny how they're targeting math. Big daddy Fed Gov tends to look pretty good when the filthy plebs can't figure out that tax dollars are being misappropriated.

I don't think that's the reason. The minorities they are trying to recruit do worst of all in math. These local apparatchiks care about their own careers, not about making the Feds look good.

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– bobrobinson 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

math isn't targeted per se, just that softer subjects are easier to fudge because they're much more subjective.

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– throwawayaccount2037 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Bingo.

Numbers don't lie.

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– TheWestYearZero 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

The asians will do what they (sensibly) always do, band together to study and attend Kumon or equivalent.

Time in school is time wasted.

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– deleted 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0
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– tobeornotto 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

85 per day seems infinitly doable.

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– almond_activator 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

You're forgetting the 5999999 biscuits, scones, pastries, and cupcakes, though.

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– deleted 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0
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– Norenia 28 points 5 years ago +28 / -0

And thus, because it's impossible to get black children to catch up to their non-black peers, they have to dumb everything down to prevent non-blacks from learning faster and EARNING their educational advantages? Literally trying to raise a dumber generation.

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– Caesah 24 points 5 years ago +24 / -0

I assumed accelerated math courses meant honours, but it includes pre-calc as well.

So there's only retard math until grade 11?

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– MargarineMongoose 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

Shit I was taking full blown calculus in grade 11 and hard mode calculus my senior year. Now kids won't even get to make it to calculus? Absolutely disgusting.

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– Caesah 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Most won't make it to Pre-Calc 12 I'd assume, as the mid-tier classes got wiped out too.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

When I was in high school the normal track was algebra 1 in 9th grade, which led to trig/precalc senior year. And since they rigged the grading system by counting homework way too heavily there was no way for the smart kids could talk their way into higher classes unless they did all the busy work. Then they shit on the smart kids who wouldn't do the busy work by giving them the same grade as the retard who couldn't score above a 50 on a test but did the busy work like a pliant little serf. I can't tell you how much shit I got for refusing to do the 5th worksheet on this topic we've covered to death, and that we learned 3 years ago.

So this policy isn't really new, they're just taking a direct approach now instead of dressing it up in the skin of the legitimate education system they killed decades ago.

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– Oppressinator 22 points 5 years ago +22 / -0

China is winning the war by doing nothing but just planting a few fentynal seeds and a few communist seeds.

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– current_horror 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

China had fuck all to do with the rapid spread of Marxism in America.

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– throwawayaccount2037 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Keep thinking that ace.

If you bother to look at who a lot of these Leftist corps, think tanks, and "academic" institutions are being funded by, a lot of it comes from CCP-backed organizations.

For instance, did you know that all those Left-wing fact-checkers are funded by the owners of Tik-Tok? That's not a coincidence.

Open your eyes and understand what's really going on.

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– current_horror 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

This is idiotic.

China is a hostile foreign power. Of course they're fanning the flames everywhere they can. That doesn't change the fact that they had nothing to do with either the establishment of cultural Marxism in America or the demographic replacement that completely destroyed our country.

The Marxist subversives running our country are the enemy. China is just throwing gasoline on the fire.

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– TheWestYearZero 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

"the rapid spread of Marxism in America"

But it has not been rapid. The comintern started operating in the US in1919.

The Frankfurt School has been subverting since the 1930s.

China's influence has been accelerating since the 1970s, when my brother brought home from school The Little Red Schoolbook.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Red_Schoolbook

In the 1990s the Clintons gave China sensitive US missile tech and MFN status.

For some years now, US education has been thoroughly subverted by China researchband "friendship" funding and overt subversive bodies like the Confucious Institutes.

So you seem to have had your eyes closed for some time.

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– current_horror 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

You literally just said that the communist rot started a century ago while China's influence only began in the 70s. That was exactly my point. Our communist problem is native, Jewish, and only somewhat exacerbated by China.

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– undecidedmask 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Wonder (((who))) it was

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– AntonioOfVenice 19 points 5 years ago +19 / -0

"In a lawn you cannot get equality of outcome with fertilizer and water, only with a mower."
- David Wolpe

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– Bruvazz 17 points 5 years ago +17 / -0

They are artificially increasing the gap between public schools and private schools.

They need to keep minorities down or else nobody would vote for them.

But don't worry, their white kids will still attend private white schools while crying about "muh seeestemic raaaaycism" on twitter!

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– tobeornotto 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

This isn't about keeping minorities down.

This is a logical consequence of striving for equity in the face of biological essentialism.

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– BandageBandolier 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0

Are they removing all mention of Harrison Bergeron from the English courses at the same time?

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– AntonioOfVenice 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

They're not removing any mention of Harrison Bergeron or 1984.

Those books never existed.

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– Adamrises 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

Regular math classes are painful and move at snail's pace because a handful of students are actually retarded and shouldn't be allowed in regular education, so the solution is to take away the one hope a smart kid has to escape these mouth-breathers?

Almost a perfect metaphor for American Public Education honestly. Gimp ourselves to make sure the worst students are the standard.

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– deleted 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0
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– Galean 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

Strangely I put some thought in to this. I gave my kids latino sounding names and I was hoping that my kids would be slightly darker skin. I'm not particularly white and I can pass for a latino and my brother in law is about the same. Unfortunately my kids turned out blond with green and blue eyes, despite neither me nor my wife having blue or green eyes.

I was not planning to make my kids tell lies or anything stupid like that but just leave it to the imagination of the teacher.

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– deleted 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0
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– almond_activator 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Sounds like he's got a case study running about the house.

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– WhitePhoenix 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

When did Virginia have its state election? They need to vote these assholes out.

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– MargarineMongoose 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

I tried man, but there's zero hope of that happening. Too many non-whites and the northern Virginia population centers are all irredeemably left leaning so this shit's locked in.

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– AntonioOfVenice 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

This year.

Supposedly, there is a pattern of the party of the incumbent president losing the gubernatorial election.

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– Runsta 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Another quirk is they do not allow consecutive terms of the same governor. This means their current governor cannot stand for reelection, which probably helps the democratic party this time around since he is so disliked by most of the state atm, and could be slandered as racist in northern Virginia due to that yearbook photo.

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– Tourgen 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Equality equity whatever the fuck they call it now = tearing down the top performers and sucking the dicks of the low-end bell curve retards. Reality will eventually come around and be paid it's due. It's price will be mass starvation.

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– crayet 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

i think NZ did something stupid like this, like removing grades and just giving "pass" or "fail" instead.

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– tryyttt 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

I was in accelerated classes but i've also seen what the average and lower classes were like , and they were months if not years behind where the accelerated classes were at, and it was because they were simply slower learners. Trying to force everyone in to the same class is not going to help anyone, its just going to hold people back.

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– Decrixxx 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

can't make people run as fast as Usain Bolt? just cuff an iron ball tho his legs then.

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– current_horror 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

Not a great example because these people never object to inequity that favors blacks.

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– PrecisionStrike 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I was getting bored of the constant 1984 bullshit, I'm glad we're moving on to Harrison Bergeron!

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– tgufjhykgjkf 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Abusing children AND kneecapping your best and brightest.

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– GeneralBoobs 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

More "the poor dumb nig" from the left.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Virginia to never produce top level mathematicians again.

This is nation-destroying shit.

This is pure suicide.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Stop anti-asian hate?

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– TakenusernameA 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Instead of trying to make the blacks smart, theyre just trying to make the white stupid...

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– deleted 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

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