Daniel Penny found not guilty
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This was more surprising than Trump winning the election.
I think this a downstream result of Trump winning the election.
The establishment needed the gut punch of Trump winning to back off being so authoritarian.
Not that surprising. Even the New York Times was writing objective to sympathetic pieces on Daniel Penny.
Figures. They are trying to restore our faith in this deteriorating nightmare of an empire.
Mainstream-media watching idiots:
"Wow, the NYT got this incredibly undeniably obvious thing right? I guess I can start trusting them about everything else again!"
He will still probably be unemployable for the rest of his life, simply because nobody wants the blowback they'd get from hiring him.
All he did was what any man would be expected to do in any sane society. Now any man would be crazy to follow his example.
Disagree, I think he has an easy in at several vetbro or 2A companies. The biggest problem for him will be social, aka people harassing him for "getting opportunities for killing a black guy" a la Kyle Rittenhouse who didn't even kill black guys.
Rittenhouse killed a pedophile, which to the woke is worse than killing a black guy.
Every leftist, "That could have been me!"
That’s why all the leftists were super mad at Daniel Perry, the off duty soldier who turned a bad communist into a good communist. And they were even more butthurt when Abbott pardoned him.
That or he makes money speaking at any event that will have him. Still, he'll never be out of the spotlight.
He's sadly a retarded woke moron. Not sure what good hearing him talk will do you.
The only known cure for wokeness is suddenly finding yourself the victim of it. It doesn't always work, but here's hoping it does this time.
Rittenhouse's family got really fucked over as well from Kyle's ordeal.
Last I heard, Kyle was estranged from his mother & sisters, he wrote about their lower-class struggles in his book like his mother's bfs and his sisters flunking out of school.
His mom & sisters had to flee Illinois, change their names, kept losing entry-level jobs when employers find out, live in precarious housing, are essentially white trash, etc.
What? Do they blame him or something?
It's been awhile since I seen an update, but I think most of the fallout came after the Not Guilty verdict.
At least publicly, his mother & two sisters are still very supportive of him but think he's a young guy who got famous quick and made some bad choices after the trial re: who he trusted, attention going to his head, etc.
I hate the concept of "white trash", but his family seems to fit the mould. I never hear anything about his father. His mother apparently has had a series of undesirable bfs and works menial, low-paying jobs. His sisters can't finish school & can't stay employed. They were all getting evicted the last I heard.
The point of contention last I heard was an autobiography Kyle wrote that at the time was a manuscript that revealed some unflattering details about their personal lives.
They apparently reached out to him after reading the draft asking for some parts to be removed. He subsequently cut off contact after that.
His mother and Kyle's more extroverted sister have appeared a few times to talk about it on small YT channels that used to cover Rittenhouse like V-Radio & Johnnie Walker Dread
I occasionally hear things about this kid that makes him sound like a complete asshole.
Doesn't matter if he is, of course. He was still defending himself, and he was still innocent. I still admire his discipline in that confrontation.
But he does, at times, sound like an asshole.
OTOH, I've only heard Kyle's family give their side of the story and not his perspective.
But I at least found his one sister fairly credible.
It's probably a case that Kyle's just an ordinary guy but in an extraordinary situation and made some very good decisions in the heat of the moment.
But this still makes him just a regular dumb young guy with the rest of his life under a microscope from here on out.
He could also just leave New York state and get a lower paid job somewhere.
That's why he should file a civil suit for conspiracy to violate his rights based on his race.
Verdict doesn't dismiss the civil case. He'll be on the civil court plantation the rest of his life, paying for swishers and gas station chicken for the dead dirtbag's entire extended family.
The father of the crackhead made a statement at a press conference just a few minutes ago saying "the system is rigged, let's do something about this". We're gonna have another 'summer of love' this year.
The system is perfect and incorruptible when someone I don't like is found guilty, but it's rotten to the core and needs to be burned down when someone I don't like is found not guilty
It's true, the system is rigged. It's true when this crackhead's father says it, it's true when the other crackhead's father says it, but it's false when Pumpkin Spice Voldemort says it.
Or they're just going to ramp up the random anti-White violence that's been going on everywhere since 2020, especially in NYC. White people stupid enough to still live there or too poor to move wind up dead in the streets and we won't hear a thing about it in the news.
Excellent. Time to go on the offensive and get those turds disbarred.
I'd like to give them bars rather than taking them way.
Time to speculate. Was it one BLM anti-White bitch insisting on the harshest charge, failing, trying again but getting bored because the other jurors were not willing to "compromise" for lesser but still BS charges?
Yenta malicious prosecutor in shambles.
I like the medieval lex talionis: people who bring (provably) false accusations or who prosecuted based thereon should face the punishment they were demanding.
In lieu of Imp1 saying so: women affected most.
Who is an isreali citizen.
Then one day. For no reason at all.
That Marxist training had to happen somewhere.
Actually "not guilty" or "not guilty of a specific charge but they'll try again with another dozen different charges of the n-th degree" which they've been doing over the last few days?
I don't think so, the judge dropped the greater charge to try to get the juror to find him guilty of the lesser charge, and that didn't work.
Which is an indication that you've totally fucked up your trial. You send an M1 charge to the jury and they deadlock. You send a lesser charge and they acquit.
They're either exceptionally confused or the process was corrupted. The judge should feel deep shame over this result.
He should, but it sounds like he was hunting for a conviction.
In this case their fuck-fuck games backfired on them. If they had left the jury deadlocked it would be a mistrial and they could try again.
By dismissing the murder charge it's over. They can appeal the acquittal of the other charges, but they lost their chance at the murder conviction.
I don't understand the criminally negligent homicide charge at all.
That's like when you fuck up so badly doing something otherwise safe that you kill someone. Like, say, you leave your car in neutral without the parking brake and it rolls down a hill and runs over someone. That's potentially criminal negligence.
Two people fighting and one of them dies is the very definition of "involuntary manslaughter." You did something potentially dangerous and someone actually died because of it. If you're restraining someone and they (don't, but we'll pretend that Neeley did) die, it doesn't even make sense to accuse him of being "negligent." What did he "neglect" to do during the struggle? Ask for his consent?
So in this case, it actually makes sense to me that they could deadlock on manslaughter but dismiss criminal negligence because the negligence charge makes no sense whatsoever.
Like holding someone down on the floor until the cops arrive? The point is, whatever facts lead you to dismiss this, must necessarily lead you to dismiss the larger charge. The subtlety is the prosecution is not allowed to present two different theories but they can present two different charges.
So the jury is confused or they felt the Allen charge was annoying and someone changed their mind.
That's not "negligence" though. You didn't answer my question of, "what did he 'neglect' to do?" Negligence is something you fail to do, not something you did.
If you shoot someone intentionally, you aren't charged with "criminal negligence." You're charged with murder. (and then maybe acquitted for self defense)
The dindu was alive after Penny released him. He died of a drug OD later.
In addition to Ant's comments, this is criminal charges. Civil charges have a much lower standard of evidence and much higher level of biases, there's tons of cases where someone is found not guilty in a court of law, but then gets fucked for millions of dollars in a secondary civil court for financial damages caused by the death they're innocent of.
Ne bis in idem doesn't apply in the United States: after a failed state prosecution, you can still bring federal charges.
The feds were at the ready with the Chauvin case to barge in and re-try him in case the jury got airs of refusing the intimidation directed at it.
In this case, I don't think it's going to happen. Penny has much better PR than Chauvin.
That’s not correct, it’s explicitly banned by the Fifth Amendment’s double jeopardy clause. However, under the separate sovereigns doctrine, separate state and federal prosecutions are not prohibited because each is allowed to try a person.
Also there is such a thing as judicial harassment. That's not the term, but it's a long the same lines as malicious prosecution or vexatious litigation. The lawfare conducted against Trump only happened because 1) it's Trump and 2) because they were filed in different jurisdictions by different prosecutors. Had they been one prosecutor doing this to him half a dozen times they'd be thrown out by a judge before a trial even commenced.
The meme term is lawfare, but yes the trump cases were all kept at state level and obviously coordinated from the top down (Biden and his masters). The lengths they went to get as far as they did should frighten anyone paying attention. One involved changing laws just to squeeze a charge past the statute of limitations.
Funny none of the MSM is sprawling this with their usual Breaking News coverage.
It's going to be interesting if the usual suspects start calling for riots. And if the outgoing Biden admin is just going to lay back and let them burn blue cities again.
It would be profitable to them (the elites, not the cities. Devestating to them). Then in 4 years time, the new D-NPC Democratic National Party Commission can toss up lots of ads saying "last time when Republicans won, cities were burning within weeks! Do you really want that to happen a second time?!"
Good news, but needs a big "for now." I highly doubt this dude's out of the woods. They were playing all sorts of games with the charging, and now the dismissal.
There’s still the civil lawsuit from the crackheads dad who made him homeless in the first place
I mean he never should have even been charged, so "triumph of Justice," amarite?
He's just had his life ruined, and will probably never financially recover so that the DA could score points with the woke crowd. Nothing like weaponizing the justice system for political purposes.
Great news
So they couldn't agree on whether he was guilty of manslaughter, but they're unanimous on this lesser charge? Don't get me wrong, this guy deserves a medal and not a trial, but it is strange.
There were probably holdouts that bent the knee.
It's insane that it went to trial, but at least the correct verdict was handed down.
Now to sue over malicious persecution
Justice, at last - tainted by social justice but justice nevertheless. However, the fact that Daniel Penny went through this ordeal means that no matter the outcome, men will learn that the only way to win is not to play at all.
Fuck yes.
Put up signs inside that courtroom: A man was acquitted here.
just gonna put Ice Cube's Today Was a Good Day here for reasons
Oy, it’s not going to be a happy Hanukkah in the Yoran household.
Alexa, play whatever the saddest indigo girls song is
Your downvote’s as good as an upvote to me, giz
Cue the music