As-tu utilisé Google Translate? Je suis surpris de voir que ta traduction française était si bien structurée. Normalement, quand quelqu'un ici tente de parler en français, la phrase semble étrange et est clairement dérivée directement d'une autre langue, généralement l'anglais. Mais à voir ta syntaxe, j'ai pratiquement l'impression que tu es français toi-même.
This is a member of the Knesset in Israel. Somehow I missed the picture caption and thought it was a Jewish-French member of parliament in France. Regardless of her opinion, foreign legislators need to STFU about what happens in other countries.
Regardless of her opinion, foreign legislators need to STFU about what happens in other countries.
Normally, I'd agree but it's her grandmother. If one of my family members got attacked in an ostensibly Western country by some piece of garbage who was there because of a government refuses to deal with them, I'd be enraged too.
Her location and occupation don't really have bearing on this being a reasonable thing to be mad about. The other 99.999999% of the time foreign legislators run their mouths, I agree.
Her location and occupation have everything to do with it. Or have you not seen what Israel plans on doing with the displaced palestinians (assuming they don't just kill them all?)
The assertion was she's not entitled to comment on her grandmother being beaten specifically because she's a legislator in a different country.
If you want to talk about Israel's contributions to creating that problem in Europe in the first place, have at it. That's not what either of us were talking about.
We were speaking about her right to comment about her right to comment about domestic policy in a foreign country.
/u/Assassin47 asserted that she didn't have a right to comment because no politician has a right to comment about domestic policy in a foreign country. You asserted that in this case the general rule doesn't apply because it's her grandmother. I asserted that you are incorrect because she is part of a government that supports policies (that she presumably agrees with) that caused the situation she's complaining about.
If you read the article (and the opinion piece it quotes) she says the following:
My appeal to the people of France is unequivocal: defend diversity, protect minorities and be firm against’ intolerance. The future of your nation depends on your ability to maintain these values. If France fails to protect its Jewish citizens, it will inevitably fail to protect its own identity and integrity.
I am going to urge my grandmother to join us in Israel, a country she should have come to for a long time. But let this serve as a’ warning: when the Jews are gone, the native French will be next to have to leave or submit.
She doesn't believe France should be expelling foreigners with incompatible ideologies. She believes they should keep taking the worlds castoffs. She doesn't talk about making the muslims "leave or submit", no, it's the French that will have to do that.
You can type as many paragraphs as you want, but I'm still going to say that if your grandmother takes a trip to Mexico and gets killed by cartels, you can say "the Mexican government should do something about the cartels," regardless of your job.
The hypocrisy is stupid as fuck. Yes. There's no disagreement there. I also agree that she's supporting the policies that led to it and would probably welcome the destruction of the French people. My sole point is that holding an office in another country on its own doesn't mean you can't have an opinion.
She doesn't talk about making the muslims "leave or submit", no, it's the French that will have to do that.
You seem to misunderstand that line. It means if France does not do anything about the muslims, that will be the result.
But let this serve as a’ warning: when the Jews are gone, the native French will be next to have to leave or submit.
To paraphrase: "the muslims aim to make the jews leave or submit. When they are done with that, they will aim to make the French leave of submit." It doesn't mean that the French should leave or submit. It's a warning of the eventual consequence of not dealing with muslims.
Stop talking out of both sides of your mouth like she is. When you acknowledge that she would probably welcome the destruction of the French people, then two sentences later suggest I misunderstand what she means when she says the French will have to leave or submit, you are no longer worth talking to.
Throwing in the "verbally assaulted" along with the "physically assaulted" makes me think the physical portion wasn't that bad and this is entirely an overreaction to her being given a small shove or something barely worth talking about, but they want to blow up into a political cudgel.
Because if she was truly beaten it would stand on its own as a horrific act. An 88 year old getting hit like twice could easily kill them, so any "beating" is tantamount to act attempted homicide.
But, leave it to a bunch of women (or Jews if you want) to care more about the meanie words said to maximize their victimhood and create a political movement off of.
Didn't some old lady behead a young child in france? Possibly her nanny or something like that. I remember reading about that. I don't remember the news at the time mentioning either of them being jewish.
If this is someone who previously campaigned for open borders then fuck em, but there are Jews who don't push that shit. And if she's one of the good ones, she's using her Jewish privilege to help make it okay to say that mass Islamic immigration represents an existential threat to the West.
The "jews that don't push that shit", instead like to take over our forums, to silence us from speaking about the fact that the people who lead the movements to push immigrants on the West, are generally jews.
Even the yids who don't want us as their cudgel to die for them, so fuck 'em all (and that's ignoring the fact that these and the White replacement yids are working together, group 1 bombs em, group 2 drags 'em over)
She's a leftist member of parliament in Israel. Her party's platform:
Supports legalization of cannabis
Advocates for LGBT rights
Promotes social safety net expansion and grants for small businesses
I could not find anything about foreign relations, so must assume on these issues they are in agreement with the establishment in her country - big on protecting Jewish interests around the world, and funding NGOs that send black and brown refugees to America and Europe.
As far as normal non-influential jewish people go, I don't know enough about French culture, but in America I struggle to imagine more than a tiny percent of pro-white anti-immigration jews who would actually go back to pre-Hart-Cellar and racial quotas. At best the more conservative jews embody the boomercon griller normie spirit. "YES we want immigration but it has to be LEGAL." They also tend to be strongly in favor of religious plurality and "Separation of Church and State", rather than America being a Christian nation that tolerates other faiths. There may be a few but if they don't ever say anything or have any influence they don't count.
but in America I struggle to imagine more than a tiny percent of pro-white anti-immigration jews who would actually go back to pre-Hart-Cellar and racial quotas. At best the more conservative jews embody the boomercon griller normie spirit.
Totally agree. The way I usually put it is: I find few jews who actually agree with me. Even if I don't specify that they should be living elsewhere. Forgetting that part, how many jews support a strong white country in which they can be a minority? It wouldn't make sense for them to. Unless they're just so integrated that they racially think they are whites who happen to be jewish. I would think it's a minority that actually think that. I know some partial jews that think that way.
What are you faggots talking about? You want them in this country because of your blind jew hatred. You're hoping they kill jews, even if it costs you your daughters.
Don't cry to me that you say what you say, or that you post what you post. I can literally watch you faggots do it. I've said it before, you're not even really racists. You just hate jews. It's why I don't respect you.
If you were just a racist, I could actually respect that enough to treat you all decently. But you're not.
Glad to see Jewish bigotry is somehow more special and eviler than any other form of bigotry. Racism stops when it comes to the special-est race and becomes its own separate special one.
Literally no one said that, you're just making shit up.
I said that your own hatred of jews was so fucking unhinged that it's not even fair to call it racist. You are actually captured by hatred to such a degree you can't do literally anything for anyone else, or yourself.
Nope, you'd be the same level of schitzo, but the only issue with it is that I haven't seen people hate blacks, the same way that NatSocs hate jews. Sure, a NatSoc might voice his impotent rage about killing blacks, but it's an afterthought to his primary focus of attention, which is jews.
That's weird.
A racist is a racist. They are concerned about their race. The NatSocs are concerned, primarily, about killing off a different race. And one specific race above all other concerns. That's weird.
I've never met an japanese racist that wanted dead blacks more than keeping his own kids from getting raped by a phillipino. That's weird.
So it isn't about hating Jews at all, that can still be regular old racism.
Its just you hating the NatSocs you see everywhere, and blowing them up to be this irredeemable, completely absurd strawman that you can pile all your generalizations on.
Shit Jews are like #4 on my list after women and blacks, yet somehow by the sheer virtue of disagreeing with you they've moved up to make sure I can fit in your box.
You dishonest faggot. I can resent jews doing subversive shit while simultaneously wanting to keep out the hordes of muslims who wish to conquer my society through more overt methods. These are not mutually exclusive positions but you portray them as such because you are dishonest and evil.
You assume they're my friends because it suits your schizo world view. You seem to be wholly incapable of mapping human relationships or differentiating between groups.
That or you're just being dishonest again, as is your default setting.
It's because psychotic jew-hatred is intentionally self-destructive to the political right, and ignores all of the actual causes and actual issues, while feeding all of the west's political enemies.
What, like the baby that was stabbed in the park in broad daylight?
Other French people have been suffering, but I guess "we're all in the same boat" only once Jews say it's okay to fight back?
This is not a warning, it is a threat
"My fellow Frenchies."
Like the teacher who got fucking beheaded.
or charlie hebdo
"U'r a strynk indypendunt wymxn, u go grrrl! Slaaay kween!"
Edit: The original version of this had 5 words flagged by autocorrect, I wanted to get them all flagged after noticing that.
Edit 2: 7/10.
Eh, close enough.
Why? You brought them here.
Or ...
Pourquoi? Vous les avez amenés ici.
As-tu utilisé Google Translate? Je suis surpris de voir que ta traduction française était si bien structurée. Normalement, quand quelqu'un ici tente de parler en français, la phrase semble étrange et est clairement dérivée directement d'une autre langue, généralement l'anglais. Mais à voir ta syntaxe, j'ai pratiquement l'impression que tu es français toi-même.
I don't speak frog.
Il y a quelques francophones sur le forum. Quelques Français, des Québécois, etc.
This is a member of the Knesset in Israel. Somehow I missed the picture caption and thought it was a Jewish-French member of parliament in France. Regardless of her opinion, foreign legislators need to STFU about what happens in other countries.
Normally, I'd agree but it's her grandmother. If one of my family members got attacked in an ostensibly Western country by some piece of garbage who was there because of a government refuses to deal with them, I'd be enraged too.
Her location and occupation don't really have bearing on this being a reasonable thing to be mad about. The other 99.999999% of the time foreign legislators run their mouths, I agree.
Her location and occupation have everything to do with it. Or have you not seen what Israel plans on doing with the displaced palestinians (assuming they don't just kill them all?)
The assertion was she's not entitled to comment on her grandmother being beaten specifically because she's a legislator in a different country.
If you want to talk about Israel's contributions to creating that problem in Europe in the first place, have at it. That's not what either of us were talking about.
We were speaking about her right to comment about her right to comment about domestic policy in a foreign country.
/u/Assassin47 asserted that she didn't have a right to comment because no politician has a right to comment about domestic policy in a foreign country. You asserted that in this case the general rule doesn't apply because it's her grandmother. I asserted that you are incorrect because she is part of a government that supports policies (that she presumably agrees with) that caused the situation she's complaining about.
If you read the article (and the opinion piece it quotes) she says the following:
She doesn't believe France should be expelling foreigners with incompatible ideologies. She believes they should keep taking the worlds castoffs. She doesn't talk about making the muslims "leave or submit", no, it's the French that will have to do that.
This kike can get out and stay out.
You can type as many paragraphs as you want, but I'm still going to say that if your grandmother takes a trip to Mexico and gets killed by cartels, you can say "the Mexican government should do something about the cartels," regardless of your job.
The hypocrisy is stupid as fuck. Yes. There's no disagreement there. I also agree that she's supporting the policies that led to it and would probably welcome the destruction of the French people. My sole point is that holding an office in another country on its own doesn't mean you can't have an opinion.
You seem to misunderstand that line. It means if France does not do anything about the muslims, that will be the result.
To paraphrase: "the muslims aim to make the jews leave or submit. When they are done with that, they will aim to make the French leave of submit." It doesn't mean that the French should leave or submit. It's a warning of the eventual consequence of not dealing with muslims.
Stop talking out of both sides of your mouth like she is. When you acknowledge that she would probably welcome the destruction of the French people, then two sentences later suggest I misunderstand what she means when she says the French will have to leave or submit, you are no longer worth talking to.
These are not mutually exclusive. There is nothing two-sided about what I've said.
I accept your concession.
That's fair, I forgot that part while writing. Also good of her to highlight Islamists instead of the old White Supremes chestnut.
Throwing in the "verbally assaulted" along with the "physically assaulted" makes me think the physical portion wasn't that bad and this is entirely an overreaction to her being given a small shove or something barely worth talking about, but they want to blow up into a political cudgel.
Because if she was truly beaten it would stand on its own as a horrific act. An 88 year old getting hit like twice could easily kill them, so any "beating" is tantamount to act attempted homicide.
But, leave it to a bunch of women (or Jews if you want) to care more about the meanie words said to maximize their victimhood and create a political movement off of.
Didn't some old lady behead a young child in france? Possibly her nanny or something like that. I remember reading about that. I don't remember the news at the time mentioning either of them being jewish.
Though I can clearly see the makeup and hair dye, she looks well for her age.
That’s not the grandmother. That the politician whose grandmother it is.
So the person that looks like she is in her early 50's, is in fact 40, and not 88. Well, that's not interesting or unique at all!
Are these the same groups of Jews though?
If this is someone who previously campaigned for open borders then fuck em, but there are Jews who don't push that shit. And if she's one of the good ones, she's using her Jewish privilege to help make it okay to say that mass Islamic immigration represents an existential threat to the West.
The "jews that don't push that shit", instead like to take over our forums, to silence us from speaking about the fact that the people who lead the movements to push immigrants on the West, are generally jews.
Even the yids who don't want us as their cudgel to die for them, so fuck 'em all (and that's ignoring the fact that these and the White replacement yids are working together, group 1 bombs em, group 2 drags 'em over)
She's a leftist member of parliament in Israel. Her party's platform:
I could not find anything about foreign relations, so must assume on these issues they are in agreement with the establishment in her country - big on protecting Jewish interests around the world, and funding NGOs that send black and brown refugees to America and Europe.
As far as normal non-influential jewish people go, I don't know enough about French culture, but in America I struggle to imagine more than a tiny percent of pro-white anti-immigration jews who would actually go back to pre-Hart-Cellar and racial quotas. At best the more conservative jews embody the boomercon griller normie spirit. "YES we want immigration but it has to be LEGAL." They also tend to be strongly in favor of religious plurality and "Separation of Church and State", rather than America being a Christian nation that tolerates other faiths. There may be a few but if they don't ever say anything or have any influence they don't count.
Totally agree. The way I usually put it is: I find few jews who actually agree with me. Even if I don't specify that they should be living elsewhere. Forgetting that part, how many jews support a strong white country in which they can be a minority? It wouldn't make sense for them to. Unless they're just so integrated that they racially think they are whites who happen to be jewish. I would think it's a minority that actually think that. I know some partial jews that think that way.
What are you faggots talking about? You want them in this country because of your blind jew hatred. You're hoping they kill jews, even if it costs you your daughters.
I shouldn't have to see you idiots fucking repeat it then.
Don't get mad about me arguing against your own positions.
I don't care what you want, idiot.
Maybe your dumbest comment ever.
You want to see a dumb comment? I LIKED mass effect 3’s original endings! How’s that for dumb comment nerd
I was just thinking the same thing.
Being a lot more direct with your abject lies today, huh?
And you wonder why people on this board don't trust you.
Don't cry to me that you say what you say, or that you post what you post. I can literally watch you faggots do it. I've said it before, you're not even really racists. You just hate jews. It's why I don't respect you.
If you were just a racist, I could actually respect that enough to treat you all decently. But you're not.
Glad to see Jewish bigotry is somehow more special and eviler than any other form of bigotry. Racism stops when it comes to the special-est race and becomes its own separate special one.
Literally no one said that, you're just making shit up.
I said that your own hatred of jews was so fucking unhinged that it's not even fair to call it racist. You are actually captured by hatred to such a degree you can't do literally anything for anyone else, or yourself.
So does it stop being racist if I start screaming about killing niggers and stringing them up? Does racism have a decency limit now?
That's where I'm confused now. Because you aren't making any sense, you just want to try and insult people with retarded accusations.
Nope, you'd be the same level of schitzo, but the only issue with it is that I haven't seen people hate blacks, the same way that NatSocs hate jews. Sure, a NatSoc might voice his impotent rage about killing blacks, but it's an afterthought to his primary focus of attention, which is jews.
That's weird.
A racist is a racist. They are concerned about their race. The NatSocs are concerned, primarily, about killing off a different race. And one specific race above all other concerns. That's weird.
I've never met an japanese racist that wanted dead blacks more than keeping his own kids from getting raped by a phillipino. That's weird.
So it isn't about hating Jews at all, that can still be regular old racism.
Its just you hating the NatSocs you see everywhere, and blowing them up to be this irredeemable, completely absurd strawman that you can pile all your generalizations on.
Shit Jews are like #4 on my list after women and blacks, yet somehow by the sheer virtue of disagreeing with you they've moved up to make sure I can fit in your box.
You dishonest faggot. I can resent jews doing subversive shit while simultaneously wanting to keep out the hordes of muslims who wish to conquer my society through more overt methods. These are not mutually exclusive positions but you portray them as such because you are dishonest and evil.
I wish that were the case, but enough of you all have posted on this forum just the opposite.
I didn't think I'd see that happen, but ever since the whole October 7th thing, the mask just dropped.
You're hysterical.
Tell you're idiot friends to stop proving me right.
You assume they're my friends because it suits your schizo world view. You seem to be wholly incapable of mapping human relationships or differentiating between groups.
That or you're just being dishonest again, as is your default setting.
You get real emotional about this topic, huh
It's because psychotic jew-hatred is intentionally self-destructive to the political right, and ignores all of the actual causes and actual issues, while feeding all of the west's political enemies.
And they say jews have high IQ....
A right winger tells the French to pay attention because the Muslims are coming for them next, and you're still on this "all Jews" retardation.
I guess the problem is that muslims have been raping and bulling white people for a long time but it is only an issue if jews get affected.
For those of you perhaps wanting context, here's a link to the article and here's an archive.