Someone made a very suspicious fedpost and Cloudflare used that as justification to take the site down.
If you have any info as this develops, feel free to post.
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This comes a couple of days after they made a big post promising not to do this anymore
The honor of thieves...
Pointed out how they took swipes at 8chan and Dailystormer for no reason.
Not surprised this happened.
I remember Wikipedia pulling a 180° like this.
This is gonna be a fun conversation with some of our clients come Tuesday.
''Yeah, so that site protection service we're contracted through just reversed course and came to the defense of child predditors. Do you want us to find another company?'
Most of them won't ask for specifics. The ones that do are going to get a bathtub full of information.
I'm hoping with you.
But the problem with such monopolists and concentrations of power and wealth is that they are invulnerable to any backlash. That is why they behave so cavalierly.
The one chance to stop it is DeSantism, the ruthless use of government power to crush the infamous thing, instead of licking corporate boot as conservatives usually do. Jail CEOs for life. Break up companies. Deprive them of government contracts. Go after them for discriminating against whites and Asians. Go after them for discriminating based on politics. Hell, require a judicial procedure before they are allowed to censor, moderate, anything.
To quote this odious lowlife: this is an emergency.
The internet creates the "network effect" which reinforces natural monopolies over infrastructure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect
This isn't new. We've had this for a very long time in the US. We dealt with it by banning companies with this monopoly power from abusing it and exerting influence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_carrier
Justice Thomas already wrote that we need to deem large internet companies common carriers and ban them from playing God with their customers. https://www.rcfp.org/justice-thomas-knight-v-trump/
Thomas is right, as always, and his solution would fix 99% of the problems we are seeing with th authoritarian left in internet spaces.
Always love hearing from you about this sort of thing (possibly you are so woke on the topic because you yourself are so censored), as the opinion I expect from an establishment/partisan Republican is very much the opposite of this.
Not at all, Thomas is "an establishment Republican" and the vast majority of Republicans would agree with him, especially the establishment ones.
Here is another example of giga-establishment Ben Shapiro saying the same thing: https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1124049326123233289
Where you will see disagreement is from the corporate dick sucker establishment "libertarians" from Reason.com: https://reason.com/volokh/2021/07/08/the-case-against-imposing-common-carrier-restrictions-on-social-media-sites/
I consider myself mostly libertarian, but I want to vomit when I see "libertarians" gleefully calling for 0 limitations on corporations of any kind, and open borders, and other absolute retard "ideology over common sense" takes like that.
Hell no, he's a great Crusader.
What are establishment Republicans good for, other than losing, conserving nothing and cutting Goldman Sachs' taxes?
DeSantis is not establishment. Someone like Romney or Jeb Bush is.
Yes, they are beyond salvation.
Yes, I disagree with some of the libertarian stuff that you do believe in, but I respect that you do not dogmatically follow crap.
We just define "establishment" differently. The vast majority of Republicans are "establishment". Mitt Romney is a very liberal RINO who doesn't agree with most of the "establishment" platform. He works fine as a Massachusetts "republican" because he is right wing in a deep blue state, but not nationally and absolutely not for Utah.
I think you see "establishment" as "co-opted by special interests", which makes the word a slur not a description. Basically no one would admit to that, and it would not clearly describe anyone. I see "establishment" as "willing to be a team player and show loyalty to the party and advance the Party's goals instead of trying to be a 'maverick'". So Liz Cheney is a perfect example of a maverick who went against the establishment. John McCain, Mitt Romney, Susan Collins, Ben Sasse, and various others were/are all anti-establishment.
I reject all ideology. While some ideologies might be superior to others, none of them is 100% correct all the time. We always need to follow what works and what gets us the best result for society overall and long term. We have over 100 years of history of how all kinds of ideologies fuck up societies, it is just that left wing ideologies have been the most aggressive in constantly trying to fuck shit up all the time.
Most importantly: completely ignore the libertarians and dignity boomers who say "but if we use government power, then they'll do it to us when the pendulum swings".
Because those people are retarded NPCs who don't realize the leftists are already in the middle of doing that, and worse, to us.
They can fuck right off to a third world shithole with the leftists as far as I'm concerned.
You'd think they'd be all for being proven right. Just grab some popcorn and watch the people who spent years expanding and abusing gov power for their own benefit also take their turn under the boot. Then propose reform once both sides have had a taste of the dirt.
But if they had any long-term foresight they wouldn't be in the state they're in.
But they're totally right, and that's why we should destroy democracy.
You shouldn't empower a state that will be used by your enemies to supress you in 4 years.
So you stop handing the state over to your enemies.
Epik cucked out on several sites already. Their Wikipedia article is a noose around their venture capital's neck, and they can can and will cuck to any level of pressure campaign like what happened to KF.
Or they might say that it's OK because they only suppress opponents of the Current Thing.
That post just says that they already don't use cloudflare, not that they're migrating away.
I fucking called it. When they all but guaranteed in their last post that they wouldn't take down another site after 8chan and DS, I fucking knew they would immediately kowtow.
Cloudflare is a fucking disgrace.
Like in sports when a team is in the midst of a terrible losing streak and the team president always publicly gives the head coach a vote of confidence.
The coach is always inevitably fired about a week later.
BUT A TROON'S FEE FEES WERE HURT!!!!!
Troon fee fees > child pee pees. Chop the dick, bigot!
Site's back up on a backup URL.
https://kiwifarms.ru/
Edit: And now it's gone again.
There is also the TOR url for those that prefer it, it goes to the same site: http://uquusqsaaad66cvub4473csdu4uu7ahxou3zqc35fpw5d4ificedzyqd.onion/
REEEEEE RUSSIA!
They really do feel confident that they can do whatever they want, with no accountability or consequences. And who knows, they may be right.
Western despotisms are worse tyrannies than Russia or China. At least their tyranny is localized. This is international. They control all the media, entertainment, technology companies, the most powerful countries in the world, and then they whine about supposed 'autocracy' (= a place where they do not hold power) in some corner of the world. There is no escape from the clutches of these people.
Censoring a website because a pedophile communist demanded it. That is rich, coming from a money-grubbing company. The bright side in case communists do take over is that Matthew Prince will be put against the wall for being a rich capitalist.
Grooming kids is 'morally correct'. Isn't it nice how the Regime has completely inverted what is good and then dares to call it 'morality'?
One of the first things they infiltrated was the justice system, so that if a crime is discovered, it is not prosecuted; if they are prosecuted, the charges are dropped; and if somehow they go to court and are found guilty, the sentence is commuted, or the defendants mass-pardoned.
Is Proudflare a gay portmanteau?
Oh I think there will be consequences. There would have been consequences for continuing to serve KF as well. There would have been consequences for dropping them but doing so with a reasonable timeframe, as opposed to just flipping a switch. There are always consequences, and I don't just mean in a "butterfly flapped its wings in China" sort of way. This has people's attention.
What were never consequential were the actual posts they're complaining about. Does anybody really believe that these anons are going to do shit? Does anybody believe that their access to KF or lack thereof makes one iota of difference in what they're going to do IRL to Cloudfare? I don't believe it. Cloudfare is being sensitive here. Death threats via internet are worth the paper they're printed on. Something I wish everybody would get used to.
Actually giving people power based on their internet threats kind of undermines the service Cloudflare purports to provide. Your website can't be taken down by "hackers" but it can be by troon losers idly spewing threats from a keyboard? Some guarantee.
I've long given up on seeing any sort of accountability or consequences for the ruling class or their mad dogs, under the present arrangement. I guess it's good that you are more optimistic.
As for the last part: the ruling class are 100% on board with suicidal troon pedo losers. So they're not going to fear being taken down based on activism, and even if a troon does try it, they'll just point to all the grooming they do and support.
You still operate under the old paradigm where there was such a thing as consistency and rules. There is none anymore. All that exists is the arbitrary exercise of power.
I am not expecting an official response. I am saying they pussed off a bunch of geeks who will not trust them now or be inclined to use them for their normie sites
Sadly, even Communities.win (or at least c/KIA2) uses cloudflare. Gab too. It's everywhere, and it needs to change. Non-google browsers are restricted by Cloudflare as well. I can't access Nhentai or IGGGames or GOG-Games anymore..
Those work on Brave.
brave is chromium
But not chrome.
chrome and chromium are basically the same. It's the same engine and the same people behind it. Google.
No, they're not the same.
These are the only "differences" between them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(web_browser)#Differences_from_Google_Chrome
They're the same. Same engine, same company, same code.
There are differences. It's not the same.
Because brave is a google browser...
Chromium isn't Chrome.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(web_browser)#Differences_from_Google_Chrome
Case in point.
It has nothing to do with DNS. I've been using the same browser and VPN for a while, and it used to work. Now it doesn't anymore. When I search for anything in the search field, Cloudflare stops me and starts loading endlessly.
The reason is Googles stranglehold over the Internet. If you use any chromium based browser you are feeding into the problem, yes, even brave. Googles marketshare in terms of browser is just too damn high. I hate Mozilla with a passion but Firefox is the only viable competitor... Since a lot of sites are optimised to work on chromium based browsers you have certain websites that work semi fine or not that great sometimes.
Firefox is chrome/ium-lite, and both founded on google money and uses google tech. Like their extensions among other things. It's not a competitor. Pale Moon is. You're completely right about google's stranglehold on the internet though. Unless we say no to it.
True that they use google money, I don't know about calling it chromium lite though. I'm actually testing librewolf extensively right now and liking its in-built privacy features and it isn't chromium based.
Well, they both follow WHATWG, instead of W3C [1]. They both use google's Web Extensions. They both use google safebrowsing [3]. They both use google's Web Components [4]. They both use the Chrome User Interface [5]. They both use google analytics within their browser [6].They also both use google search as the default search (which is what they're mostly being paid for), and it's obvious that they're trying to play catch-up with Chrome to retain even the few percent of global users they have now when every site only checks if it works against google chrome/ium.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHATWG
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_of_Firefox#Electrolysis_and_WebExtensions
[3] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-does-phishing-and-malware-protection-work#w_what-information-is-sent-to-mozilla-or-its-partners-when-phishing-and-malware-protection-is-enabled
[4] https://hacks.mozilla.org/2015/06/the-state-of-web-components/
[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_of_Firefox#cite_note-26
[6] https://github.com/mozilla/addons-frontend/issues/2785
Further reading: https://digdeeper.club/articles/mozilla.xhtml & https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/firefox.html
This only happened because troons have completely infiltrated silicon valley tech companies and can use their positions to take those that they disagree with offline.
And as a result, the US Tech Sector is collapsing faster than imagined. It's a game between the (((Banks))) and US Gov contracts and investors and the pronoun programmers to see who blinks first. Will the programmers learn to code before the investors realize they've been paying for castrations and nothing else.
Comments disabled for new accounts. "Hackernews" isn't something I frequent.
Hysterical. They're treating that site like a Chinese lab.
Rofl.
So even after literally admitting they were wrong, they go and make the same mistake again.
Lol. Lmao.
Two hours later: https://kiwifarms.ru/
Literally shaking rn
I was on FFXIV earlier and saw some mutant bragging about how "We took down Kiwi Farms." I told them "The site was temporarily taken down, but you'll still never be a woman." It's not like they didn't plan for this anyway.
If you have any contact with people from KF, point them here as a possible fallout shelter, especially if you have contact with Null
This place isn't free enough for KF. I'd suggest poa.st
Both is good. Fallout shelters/bunkers aren't meant to be permanent homes.
KF comes with a good deal of tard wrangling....
Yeah I'm with you there. I don't browse KF because it's basically crap. I don't want to be on that website. I don't care if they have a forum on the same network. However, there is also a difference between a message board and what this is. The .wins are more of news aggregators with comments -- in the vein of reddit or slashdot or what digg used to be.
You overdramatize it.
The worst these people will do to you is tell you same things Lobster Peterson will except they will be mean.
Based on what do you declare the people there 'awful people'? Sure, they also mocked some good people, but what exactly did they do wrong?
Harassing the lolcows (touching the shit, or weening in the site's lingo) is heavily discouraged on KF. In fact, I've seen threads turn on people who did that.
What was the fedpost?
A fabrication.
An opportunity. Someone out of that site's 1000s of users was going to post a 'threat' and Twitter were waiting. I've read far worse on Twitter itself.
Heard it through the grapevine that the post was up for something like 15 minutes before the person who put it up took it down. The account had been idle for 2 months and had only posted once before the thread about the situation came up.
There was a hitpiece ready to go the instant the site got its Cloudflare pulled.
Whole situation glows.
I'm almost 40 years old can someone explain kiwifarms to me? Sorry to be an elder millennial here. Never heard of it.
I was almost 40 30 years ago. The farms (kiwifarms) is a 'gossip site' that creates posts about weirdos and other notable characters on the internet to laugh at, and/or 'milk', in the case of lolcows, for further amusing lactation.
The main part of the website is a woman's magazine in forum form. They laugh at people who make fools of themselves but they do it in the corner not in their face. Usually.
First there was Chris-chan. The original lolcow.
Chris-chan had a thread on Something Awful forums, proto-Kiwi Farms in a sense. What people mostly did was observing his social media output and laughing at his stupid antics and tomfollery.
Then some SA forum users realized there was so much material about this man that they could fill a wiki with, and so it did. Thus CWCwiki was born.
Then those very same people realized that Chris-chan isn't the only one of its kind. So they expanded and rebranded.
CWC sounded similiar to Kiwi. So it became a forums called Kiwi Farms.
And this is Kiwi Farms, an archive gossip forums where those with lots of free time make fun of wierdos.
It's the New Zealand 4chan
image a 4chan but dedicated to laughing at celebrities of the internets
What even started the proglodyte outrage over Kiwi Farms this time? No doubt some kind of tranny thing, but I don't know who off-hand.
keffals and its orbiters
Kind of like Gamer Gate when you think about it.
Destiny used his platform to lure the attention to the fact that Lucas (keffals) was brewing HRT, grooming kids etc etc.
Kiwi Farms picked up on it and started to gossip about it.
Lucas misconstrued it as Destiny using Kiwi Farms as his personal army to harass him.
Destiny got banned on Twitch and the situation got out of control.
Fucking troonshine.
lol
I know that nobody is actually making legitimate actionable threats on Lucas' life, but lord I wouldn't feel too bad about it if they did
The fucking troon wins.
Thanks to the sackless matthew prince another precedent has been set that could result in the takedown of many sites that reject the trans insanity but not just that, mr. keffals opened another pandora's box by swatting taylor greene which makes it certain something will happen to worsen the internet, most likely to section 230 which nearly all of the politicians have wanted to kill since 2018.
And the applecart has finally turned the fuck over.
Metokur got banned too.
The fuck is a kiwi farm?
Who is the anonymous hacker known as 4chan?