King ruled against Carl and Judith, issuing a final parenting order that they stop exposing and educating Lucas and Valerie in their polyamorous lifestyle.
Educating.
Groomers.
This article shows why the death penalty is a very good thing.
As a (mostly, but less than I was) lolbertarian, death penalty is wrong; the state shouldn't have such absolute authority over people. But, in this clown world...man it's fucking tempting to say 'fuck it.'
These fucks deserve death. At the hands of the capital-S-State (lolbertarian) raises some issues, but fuck these people.
Do you want right-wing authoritarianism? Because this is how you get right-wing authoritarianism.
Shit, this fucking clown world Grade A Certified bullshit is exactly why the pendulum swings. I'm getting some extreme Weimar vibes, and have been for a few years now.
As a (mostly) anarcho-capitalist I don't want the state to have the authority of life and death either, because I also know that in the absence of government authority - without law to protect criminals - regular citizens would take it upon themselves to purge these fiends. That's not a bug, it's a feature.
The abolishment of the death penalty was one of our biggest mistakes in western civilization. Fact is, there are people who are so broken and fucked up they cannot be healed - or redeemed. No amount of meds and therapy will ever fix things (in fact, meds often makes it worse). Everyone who things otherwise is either a liberal women, a naive gullible fool, or both
It's not just faggots and trannies who groom kids. Polyamorous weirdos do it as well. The only real question is how many P's we need to add to the alphabet soup. Grooming aside this is actually a good look into how polyamorous "relationships" work in practice. The girl was using her Barbie dolls to reenact all the fucked up shit her degenerate parents did in front of her.
The dudes are either sleeping around themselves or are just beta cucks who can't do any better. Frankly I have more respect for an incel than a guy who puts up with that shit. The women are almost always low quality women who are just doing freaky shit in bed to try to keep men, which of course doesn't work for high quality men.
The dudes are either sleeping around themselves or are just beta cucks who can't do any better
Typically men sleeping around are almost never in a poly relationship because they don't need to be. The ones who can get it on demand don't want a social anchor to impede things.
The "men" who are "poly" tend to be desperate enough that not only will they "share" with other "men" but without fail when these groups post pictures of themselves it literally a ham planet and several stereotypical beta [or worse]orbiters that can't do any better who embody the concept of neckbeards and soyboys.
Most women do not want this kind of man as a partner, and for the ones who can't do any better they don't want to be stuck with one all the time hence a "poly" group where the woman gets to feign being able to pick from several options and not have to spend all her time with one of them if she doesn't want to.
Polyamory is almost always suggested and initiated by a woman in a relationship who wants the following:
To sleep with specific other men, and they will be specific and likely ones she already picked out before even bringing up the topic.
To keep the existing relationship because of the safe backup it provides in terms of emotional, monetary, social, and living support.
To be the only one who is actually poly.
First off it is almost without exception universally easier for a woman to fuck someone than it is for a man. In terms of supply and demand they are the supply side for sex. Yes there are men out there who will be the ones in demand but they are the top 20% going by reports made by dating apps where 80% of men are considered 'average or below'. Which means roughly 50% of women in some dating apps only focus on the 20% of their options. And this 50% includes literal "5s" who still don't really have to put in much effort to get someone to fuck them.
So any woman who goes from "in a relationship" to "open" is going to sleep with someone else probably before her boyfriend has even considered who his options might be. It could even be the same day if not hour the conversation happens.
Second, if women are being smart about this, and by "smart" I mean "insidious", any women looking to leverage the idea of polyamory to best work for her will initiate the topic, already have her target[s] planned as outlined in point 1, sleep with them asap as outlined in point 2, and then pull a sob story after if/when the man makes any headway with his own possible partners. A sob story that will be half "I don't want to lose you/[my safety pick]" and half "It's not what I wanted/thought it would be", and of those two halves the former will be true while the latter will not.
She doesn't want to lose the safety pick, but she definitely got exactly what she wanted from her slut speedrun before the boyfriend had a chance to also hook up with someone else.
A man with two wives that he takes care of forever and all their children is almost never what is meant by polyamory. Like, I guess technically it is, but if they were just polygamous they'd call themselves that. Or some nicer term that they feel is fitting. Polyamory means pretty exclusively degeneracy.
The problem is that allowing women to lead coomer lifestyles never ends well because they quickly lose their ability to pair bond as their n count goes up. You don't have to do any more than look at the world around us to see proof of that.
The historical "he has two wives" version seems infinitely more stable than the "IDK, fuck whoever" version.
Correct. When men have multiple partners it creates problems at the societal level (mainly leftover men) but it can work quite well at the individual household level if the dude is alpha enough to control the household. A woman banging multiple dudes (ie cucking all of them at once) doesn't even work at that level. The cuck fights can and often do escalate into violence and even murder. Unless it's purely about sex it's not sustainable, and even then it almost never leads to a good outcome.
IIRC wasn't there a "group" but where one of them got super angry, abused a child(of which no one knows who the father was I think)? I seem to remember them being paraded around in a couple shitty articles and youtube videos by "trusted sources" to show how "good" polyamory is. That was a while back though by now. These relationships don't work and never will.
Eh, wouldn't they say they're from whatever tribe, and whatever land that they called it before white people showed up? It's kind of like the occasional debate over what American Indians should be called. They do occasionally refer to themselves as Indian, and rarely native American, but mostly they'd say they're something like Cherokee.
Polynesian is the equivalent of saying Cherokee or Dinatah. It's the same group, bit different tribes. Especially useful when you don't want to mix up Tongan and Samoan.
It's a long story, but Polynesian is the term for a specific ocean going people who cover the ocean. There are others, and they look a lot smaller than your average poly.
Its all just hedonism in general. Gays, polys, trannies, women even all live for pure personal pleasure. They all are taught to embrace hedonistic desires as their first choice, and it creates these cycles. Where nothing is enough and the taboo needs to keep happening to even excite them.
The girl was using her Barbie dolls to reenact all the fucked up shit her degenerate parents did in front of her.
Eww. That girl is lost. She'll end up an angry, lonely femcel who hides her femininity and doesn't know how to have healthy relationships, or she's gonna be the sloot who does anything with boys in middle school and years later claims they raped her. Might even turn full feminazi lez misandrist. And that's without all the trans trend shit going on in schools. There's no way to predict how that will end up.
How do you know? People are resilient and most can deal with this sort of trauma without going sideways. It's not like children were forced to watch sex acts or raped--the irresponsible "parents" were just oblivious and selfish.
Where is all the vitriol coming from in these comments? I think the tranny social contagion has everyone's pervert radar working overtime.
Didn't say I know, it was just an educated guess based on the article text and how children often repress or act out on early exposure to sexual content.
Where is all the vitriol coming from
Yeah I dunno, people get triggered by child molesters and groomers for some crazy reason.
They should have lost custody immediately and been investigated for criminal charges.
She slowed down, and through a crack in the door, heard Valerie say the words “orgy,” “p—y,” “c–t” and “c–k,” and Molly, two years younger, repeated after her. she entered the room and saw the two girls holding a naked Barbie doll mounted on top of a Ken doll, then quickly dropping them in embarrassment.
Valerie and told her mother that the older girl was “making the male doll be angry and violent with two girl dolls for being ‘cheating sluts.’”
People like this shouldn't be having kids, and they are fucking up these kids.
As Eddie Murphy put it back in the 80s, you can import the most traditional, "good" woman possible. And within a very short span of time, all her friends and society around her will turn her into the same corrupted garbage as the rest of them.
You can find better for sure, but that's only because the norms and standards are so warped that something that would have been considered broken and worthless beyond repair back in those days is just a normal woman now.
One of the highest-rated anime of this past year was Dress-up Darling, a story about a Stacy who falls in love with a guy for his dedicated work ethic and sincere effort he puts into his job as a small business owner (in a traditional arts industry).
Your wait for just a straight-up positive family experience show likely isn't that far off. They've already hit the ground running with shows about half the equation, and play it 100% straight (he is never derided by the narrative or darling for his positive work ethic and social mores, in fact, he is outright rewarded for it, often).
The show was hated by Twitter, too. But, of course, it WAS made in Japan, so that Japan-hating overlap part of the venn diagram of people here and howler monkies on twitter will probably say it's a poor example.
The highest praise I can say about the anime is that it even made a cynical man like me who has been MGTOW for years, a bit wistful that even If I tried my best I will never be able to find a woman remotely like Marin in the real world.
The author of the series definitely knew the formula to create probably any man's ultimate dream girl.
Can you Imagine an attractive yet loyal girl that truly appreciates hard work and who constantly encourages and hell even inspires you to succeed in your dreams and she also loves anime and dressing up in cosplay existing in the real world?
I’ll have to check it out. Thanks! Nowadays I love reruns of shows like leave it to beaver and little house on the prairie. As a kid I got bored when my parents or grandparents watched shows like that but now I really appreciate them.
It does have some significant fanservice, just FYI if you're opposed to that, but it's a very solid romance story in its couple episodes. Different cultures after all.
It's not Leave It To Beaver, it's still only half the equation and on the setting-up-the-romance side, not the family-established side. Spy x Family might be closer to what you're looking for, but it's closer to Addams Family than Little House On The Prarie, in that it's a functional and loving family, it's just... not normal.
I guess this is why Bob's Burgers almost seems fresh.
A normal couple with three kids, trying to run a small business.
This show would have been totally lost amongst all the other shows I grew up with, before Married: With Children came along and set the tone we're still getting vis a vis family sitcoms. The only real difference is the post-FCC content, like booger jokes and the sight of toilets and stuff.
I know that’s a popular show but I just couldn’t get into it. Simpsons is my all time favorite show (golden years especially) and I know it influenced Bob’s Burgers but I didn’t think it was funny. Maybe I’ll give it another try. Also like Futurama, Family Guy, King of the Hill, and South Park but there is some decline in quality
It's almost kind of an acquired taste. I got into it kind of slowly, too, same with King of the Hill. It's probably that "why aren't these live-action?" vibe, but once you watch it, yeah, it's better off as a cartoon, heh. Especially with the one-off, more surreal episodes (mostly literal fever dreams. Which leads me to wonder what they would have done, surrealism-wise, if late-season Night Court had been a cartoon ...)
I guess I can identify with Bob Belcher because of the way his family and friends rope him into stupid shit he'd rather not do and knows it'll go to hell (take a shot/toke every time he says "Oh, God.") when he just wants to make burgers and get by quietly.
Repent of your sinful ways you heteronormative bigot! You're not a good, virtuous progressive unless you're looking for a harem, err I mean polycule, of tranny wives for polyamorous orgies. Watch out for Schlong Covid though. It knows the difference between a woman and a man pretending to be a woman.
The house was fairly compact, with Lucas and Valerie sharing a bedroom at the end of a hallway leading to the open-plan lounge. There was no door between the hallway and the lounge. The teenage boys were in a detached sleep-out behind the home.
Everyone's shocked because it happened within an apparently affluent family who should know better and who should have taken steps to be more discreet.
Poor people living on top of one another in ghettos around the world routinely "expose" children to adult sex.
I don't see that there was anything particularly perverse or "grooming" about the situation. It's just a narcissistic couple not caring about the presence of kids in the house. They got busted because their youngest were acting out.
The court said they need to stop "educating" them about their degenerate lifestyle. So it was more than just trashy parents not hiding sexual activity from their kids. They were fucking in front of them to show how "normal" polyamory is and trying to recruit them into their sick lifestyle. I think grooming is an appropriate description of what happened.
Educating.
Groomers.
This article shows why the death penalty is a very good thing.
As a (mostly, but less than I was) lolbertarian, death penalty is wrong; the state shouldn't have such absolute authority over people. But, in this clown world...man it's fucking tempting to say 'fuck it.'
These fucks deserve death. At the hands of the capital-S-State (lolbertarian) raises some issues, but fuck these people.
Do you want right-wing authoritarianism? Because this is how you get right-wing authoritarianism.
Shit, this fucking clown world Grade A Certified bullshit is exactly why the pendulum swings. I'm getting some extreme Weimar vibes, and have been for a few years now.
To quote someone else: Woodchippers go BRRRRRR.
Fuck these sick fucks.
As a (mostly) anarcho-capitalist I don't want the state to have the authority of life and death either, because I also know that in the absence of government authority - without law to protect criminals - regular citizens would take it upon themselves to purge these fiends. That's not a bug, it's a feature.
I say we bring back exile. You want to be a fucking creep, go do it while avoid mountain lions and grizzly bears.
The abolishment of the death penalty was one of our biggest mistakes in western civilization. Fact is, there are people who are so broken and fucked up they cannot be healed - or redeemed. No amount of meds and therapy will ever fix things (in fact, meds often makes it worse). Everyone who things otherwise is either a liberal women, a naive gullible fool, or both
It's not just faggots and trannies who groom kids. Polyamorous weirdos do it as well. The only real question is how many P's we need to add to the alphabet soup. Grooming aside this is actually a good look into how polyamorous "relationships" work in practice. The girl was using her Barbie dolls to reenact all the fucked up shit her degenerate parents did in front of her.
The dudes are either sleeping around themselves or are just beta cucks who can't do any better. Frankly I have more respect for an incel than a guy who puts up with that shit. The women are almost always low quality women who are just doing freaky shit in bed to try to keep men, which of course doesn't work for high quality men.
Typically men sleeping around are almost never in a poly relationship because they don't need to be. The ones who can get it on demand don't want a social anchor to impede things.
The "men" who are "poly" tend to be desperate enough that not only will they "share" with other "men" but without fail when these groups post pictures of themselves it literally a ham planet and several stereotypical beta [or worse]orbiters that can't do any better who embody the concept of neckbeards and soyboys. Most women do not want this kind of man as a partner, and for the ones who can't do any better they don't want to be stuck with one all the time hence a "poly" group where the woman gets to feign being able to pick from several options and not have to spend all her time with one of them if she doesn't want to.
Polyamory is almost always suggested and initiated by a woman in a relationship who wants the following:
To sleep with specific other men, and they will be specific and likely ones she already picked out before even bringing up the topic.
To keep the existing relationship because of the safe backup it provides in terms of emotional, monetary, social, and living support.
To be the only one who is actually poly.
First off it is almost without exception universally easier for a woman to fuck someone than it is for a man. In terms of supply and demand they are the supply side for sex. Yes there are men out there who will be the ones in demand but they are the top 20% going by reports made by dating apps where 80% of men are considered 'average or below'. Which means roughly 50% of women in some dating apps only focus on the 20% of their options. And this 50% includes literal "5s" who still don't really have to put in much effort to get someone to fuck them. So any woman who goes from "in a relationship" to "open" is going to sleep with someone else probably before her boyfriend has even considered who his options might be. It could even be the same day if not hour the conversation happens.
Second, if women are being smart about this, and by "smart" I mean "insidious", any women looking to leverage the idea of polyamory to best work for her will initiate the topic, already have her target[s] planned as outlined in point 1, sleep with them asap as outlined in point 2, and then pull a sob story after if/when the man makes any headway with his own possible partners. A sob story that will be half "I don't want to lose you/[my safety pick]" and half "It's not what I wanted/thought it would be", and of those two halves the former will be true while the latter will not. She doesn't want to lose the safety pick, but she definitely got exactly what she wanted from her slut speedrun before the boyfriend had a chance to also hook up with someone else.
A man with two wives that he takes care of forever and all their children is almost never what is meant by polyamory. Like, I guess technically it is, but if they were just polygamous they'd call themselves that. Or some nicer term that they feel is fitting. Polyamory means pretty exclusively degeneracy.
The problem is that allowing women to lead coomer lifestyles never ends well because they quickly lose their ability to pair bond as their n count goes up. You don't have to do any more than look at the world around us to see proof of that.
Correct. When men have multiple partners it creates problems at the societal level (mainly leftover men) but it can work quite well at the individual household level if the dude is alpha enough to control the household. A woman banging multiple dudes (ie cucking all of them at once) doesn't even work at that level. The cuck fights can and often do escalate into violence and even murder. Unless it's purely about sex it's not sustainable, and even then it almost never leads to a good outcome.
Is it, though?
IIRC wasn't there a "group" but where one of them got super angry, abused a child(of which no one knows who the father was I think)? I seem to remember them being paraded around in a couple shitty articles and youtube videos by "trusted sources" to show how "good" polyamory is. That was a while back though by now. These relationships don't work and never will.
You'll live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension.
I wish it had only been the atomic bomb...
I wish it had been a few more atomic bombs...
I dislike polyamory not only for the sin, but because Polynesians now have to explain their own heritage when they say they are Poly.
Eh, wouldn't they say they're from whatever tribe, and whatever land that they called it before white people showed up? It's kind of like the occasional debate over what American Indians should be called. They do occasionally refer to themselves as Indian, and rarely native American, but mostly they'd say they're something like Cherokee.
Polynesian is the equivalent of saying Cherokee or Dinatah. It's the same group, bit different tribes. Especially useful when you don't want to mix up Tongan and Samoan.
Ain't Polynesia a Latin word, though? I just assumed cuz "poly"
It's a long story, but Polynesian is the term for a specific ocean going people who cover the ocean. There are others, and they look a lot smaller than your average poly.
Its all just hedonism in general. Gays, polys, trannies, women even all live for pure personal pleasure. They all are taught to embrace hedonistic desires as their first choice, and it creates these cycles. Where nothing is enough and the taboo needs to keep happening to even excite them.
Eww. That girl is lost. She'll end up an angry, lonely femcel who hides her femininity and doesn't know how to have healthy relationships, or she's gonna be the sloot who does anything with boys in middle school and years later claims they raped her. Might even turn full feminazi lez misandrist. And that's without all the trans trend shit going on in schools. There's no way to predict how that will end up.
How do you know? People are resilient and most can deal with this sort of trauma without going sideways. It's not like children were forced to watch sex acts or raped--the irresponsible "parents" were just oblivious and selfish.
Where is all the vitriol coming from in these comments? I think the tranny social contagion has everyone's pervert radar working overtime.
Didn't say I know, it was just an educated guess based on the article text and how children often repress or act out on early exposure to sexual content.
Yeah I dunno, people get triggered by child molesters and groomers for some crazy reason.
They should have lost custody immediately and been investigated for criminal charges.
People like this shouldn't be having kids, and they are fucking up these kids.
I feel like I’ve been in cryo freeze since the 50s. I just want to meet a good woman, get married, and settle down. Or maybe I’m a radical
As Eddie Murphy put it back in the 80s, you can import the most traditional, "good" woman possible. And within a very short span of time, all her friends and society around her will turn her into the same corrupted garbage as the rest of them.
You can find better for sure, but that's only because the norms and standards are so warped that something that would have been considered broken and worthless beyond repair back in those days is just a normal woman now.
To quote my boy SABO, conservatism is the new punk.
It honestly is. I’m waiting for a new show about a married man and woman who raise their children
One of the highest-rated anime of this past year was Dress-up Darling, a story about a Stacy who falls in love with a guy for his dedicated work ethic and sincere effort he puts into his job as a small business owner (in a traditional arts industry).
Your wait for just a straight-up positive family experience show likely isn't that far off. They've already hit the ground running with shows about half the equation, and play it 100% straight (he is never derided by the narrative or darling for his positive work ethic and social mores, in fact, he is outright rewarded for it, often).
The show was hated by Twitter, too. But, of course, it WAS made in Japan, so that Japan-hating overlap part of the venn diagram of people here and howler monkies on twitter will probably say it's a poor example.
Dress Up Darling was a great anime.
The highest praise I can say about the anime is that it even made a cynical man like me who has been MGTOW for years, a bit wistful that even If I tried my best I will never be able to find a woman remotely like Marin in the real world.
The author of the series definitely knew the formula to create probably any man's ultimate dream girl.
Can you Imagine an attractive yet loyal girl that truly appreciates hard work and who constantly encourages and hell even inspires you to succeed in your dreams and she also loves anime and dressing up in cosplay existing in the real world?
I’ll have to check it out. Thanks! Nowadays I love reruns of shows like leave it to beaver and little house on the prairie. As a kid I got bored when my parents or grandparents watched shows like that but now I really appreciate them.
It does have some significant fanservice, just FYI if you're opposed to that, but it's a very solid romance story in its couple episodes. Different cultures after all.
It's not Leave It To Beaver, it's still only half the equation and on the setting-up-the-romance side, not the family-established side. Spy x Family might be closer to what you're looking for, but it's closer to Addams Family than Little House On The Prarie, in that it's a functional and loving family, it's just... not normal.
Sounds good. I enjoy anime so this should be good
I guess this is why Bob's Burgers almost seems fresh.
A normal couple with three kids, trying to run a small business.
This show would have been totally lost amongst all the other shows I grew up with, before Married: With Children came along and set the tone we're still getting vis a vis family sitcoms. The only real difference is the post-FCC content, like booger jokes and the sight of toilets and stuff.
I know that’s a popular show but I just couldn’t get into it. Simpsons is my all time favorite show (golden years especially) and I know it influenced Bob’s Burgers but I didn’t think it was funny. Maybe I’ll give it another try. Also like Futurama, Family Guy, King of the Hill, and South Park but there is some decline in quality
It's almost kind of an acquired taste. I got into it kind of slowly, too, same with King of the Hill. It's probably that "why aren't these live-action?" vibe, but once you watch it, yeah, it's better off as a cartoon, heh. Especially with the one-off, more surreal episodes (mostly literal fever dreams. Which leads me to wonder what they would have done, surrealism-wise, if late-season Night Court had been a cartoon ...)
I guess I can identify with Bob Belcher because of the way his family and friends rope him into stupid shit he'd rather not do and knows it'll go to hell (take a shot/toke every time he says "Oh, God.") when he just wants to make burgers and get by quietly.
Well I did love Night Court. I live in Texas and while King of the Hill is great, I think it’s even funnier when you are aware of Texas culture
Well, I've gathered that Texans prefer charcoal, so far ...
Repent of your sinful ways you heteronormative bigot! You're not a good, virtuous progressive unless you're looking for a harem, err I mean polycule, of tranny wives for polyamorous orgies. Watch out for Schlong Covid though. It knows the difference between a woman and a man pretending to be a woman.
LOL.
"You've scarred those kids for life. Just, ah, don't do that anymore, please."
Right?
What a fucking WEAK response from the court. It's pathetic!
They deserve jail time for behaving like that in front of kids.
I made it a sentence in, and I'm fucking peacing out.
Fuck New Zealand.
Fuck groomers.
Fuck CPS or their national equivalent.
Gubmint needs to step the fuck down, and people need to step up.
Jacinda will hunt you down and quarantine you.
*laughs in American*
Polyamorous? That's a lot of syllables for 'whore'
Everyone's shocked because it happened within an apparently affluent family who should know better and who should have taken steps to be more discreet.
Poor people living on top of one another in ghettos around the world routinely "expose" children to adult sex.
I don't see that there was anything particularly perverse or "grooming" about the situation. It's just a narcissistic couple not caring about the presence of kids in the house. They got busted because their youngest were acting out.
The court said they need to stop "educating" them about their degenerate lifestyle. So it was more than just trashy parents not hiding sexual activity from their kids. They were fucking in front of them to show how "normal" polyamory is and trying to recruit them into their sick lifestyle. I think grooming is an appropriate description of what happened.
I missed that bit. Nor did I see anything in the story that suggested deliberate grooming for sex, but then I didn't read the thing very closely.