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posted 5 years ago by SupremeReader 5 years ago by SupremeReader +53 / -0
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– Robotinic 48 points 5 years ago +48 / -0

It's still fascinating how they still refuse to connect the dots on why the suicide rate is so high.

Heard many of them blame society for specifically targeting them because they're trans. But they still won't acknowledge that they're -all- mentally unwell.

The best thing they can try to do is tell those confused people that they're mentally unwell and give them the help they need. If transitioning is what they actually need then so be it, but 3 months then you can get your balls cut off? Fuck that.

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– Devidose 31 points 5 years ago +31 / -0

But they still won't acknowledge that they're -all- mentally unwell.

Introspection/self reflection is for <checks notes> bigots.

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– Lurker404 22 points 5 years ago +22 / -0

When everyone around you tells you you're brave and stunning and special you tend to get delusional. Same thing as with those HAES land whales. You encourage mental illness and unhealthy living and people start thinking it's okay ... until they'd rather kill themselves ... by rope or by heart attack.

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– exarch 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

When everyone around you tells you you're brave and stunning and special you tend to get delusional.

I sometimes wonder what that's like. Not that I want to be delusional, but I just wonder what it would be like to live in a society that validates everything I do - just to experience it once. Like a vacation or something.

I'm an evil white male and I'm constantly told that I'm privileged, and that because I'm privileged, I need to be denied something or other - a job, an education, whatever. I just wonder what it would be like for someone to say, "oh wow! a white male! We're so glad to have you! We know you're going to improve this organization!"

And I wonder what it would be like to go to school and sit in a history class and be taught that every historical figure who looks like you is automatically good and virtuous. And beyond history class, to have race brought up in every other class - always in a way that validates me.

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– Adamrises 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Not that I want to be delusional, but I just wonder what it would be like to live in a society that validates everything I do - just to experience it once

I can say from experience that getting one person doing that is a complete game changer. Like, its very unhealthy but having a woman who does that can completely change your entire personality and life and push you into manic delusional upbeat-ness when you are around them.

So having everyone do that has got to completely drive you into Cyclothymia. Where you get those brief highs from it (with huge diminishing returns) and then it comes crashing into mass depression the moment the fellating stops.

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– UnsubtleAardvark 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

I sometimes wonder what that's like. Not that I want to be delusional, but I just wonder what it would be like to live in a society that validates everything I do - just to experience it once. Like a vacation or something.

How else do you think that so many people fall for this shit. Even intelligent folks who go in knowing it's all bullshit can come out the other side crazy.

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– LinkR 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Pretty much. The enablers are arguably the true villains in all of this.

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– SophiesBoyfriend 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

There are so many enablers / trans grifters in big tech that talking honestly about the damage caused by (chopping off your genitals) is impossible.

(unless it is FGM - in which case even the smallest cut is ‘a crime against humanity’)

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– FrostedCricketFlakes 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

Transitioning doesn't prevent suicides. They also censor people who regret surgically transitioning, so many see it as the solution, when it often cements problems.

Doesn't help that the healthcare facilities in charge of helping people through the problem have removed everyone that's not an activist. NHS in the UK is currently being sued for just this. People who went to them were never questioned by staff to determine they were truly trans, or whether transitioning was the best for them, the staff just immediately started their medical transitioning.

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– SophiesBoyfriend 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

There is an obvious causation between physical trauma and suicide.

These trans activists are clearly causing these suicides.

Journalists and the media are 100% complicit

Let’s not forget that big tech has a massive trans fetish too

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– JiggsawCalrissian 30 points 5 years ago +30 / -0

Peer pressure only works as long as there are peers to press it

I feel really bad for these kids who's friends (or way worse: their parents) forced them into making a hard life altering decision for them.

Hell is made for the activists who push this demonic shit outside of parental consent too

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– Lurker404 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0

The problem is, peer pressure works the exact opposite of the way it should these days. They're actively encouraging self-destructive behavior.

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– RussianAgent13 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

It's been like that my whole life. Part of normal growing up was being told how to avoid negative influences from peers and modern culture. In a healthy society, the village can help raise the children. Today, we protect our children from the village. This trans trend is just the peak of cultural sickness.

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– Hyponoeo 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

You know, there are times for sure where peer pressure is bad of course. However, we have overvillainized peer pressure and applying shame. It actually has a value and a use in the right context and situation that is not only helpful to society but to the person being shamed/pressured. Obviously this VERY MUCH depends on the EXACT situation; what I just said does.

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– Adamrises 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

However, we have overvillainized peer pressure and applying shame

Slut shaming used to be a great method of teaching girls that actions have consequences that last a lifetime, and they should weigh that choice heavily.

Now we have entire generations of girls whose own instincts are slut shaming them and they are being driven mad by it, while they desperately try to redefine happiness as popping 3 different anti-depressants and crying into their cats.

And that's just one single form of shaming.

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– LinkR 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

It's like humanity is subconsciously enforcing the Darwin test on itself.

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– Galean 24 points 5 years ago +24 / -0

Suicide rates at 4x of their peers? That seems way way to low.

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– CatoTheElder 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

The 41% figure everyone throws around is attempts and attention seeking, not successes.

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

They're such losers in life they can't even kill themselves correctly.

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– A2BS 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

To think that changing your physical form through invasive surgery and hormone treatment would be able to make your mental anguish go away... it's something else. I mean, by definition, people who choose to transition are in a very susceptible place. It's a lot of people thinking social acceptance leads to personal acceptance, when they're practically uncorrelated. It's only those who are weak willed that think that they can only be happy if everyone else likes them. It really is disturbing that such a practice is just accepted, this sort of indoctrination. Person feels self-conscious and depressed > Person shuts self off from healthy support systems (if they had any to begin with) > Person becomes internet addict > Cult tells person that their problems are due to social norms > Cult manipulates person to think that their thoughts about wanting to live a different life are signs of "dysphoria" > Cult feigns concern and tells them transitioning will help solve their depression > body mutilation > darker depression > 40% suicide rate.

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– GeneralBoobs 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

She didn't develop gender disphoria. She jumped on a bandwagon because she is just another narcissistic white girl.

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– MetalGearMk4 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

I don't feel bad at all for these retards

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– KeeperOfTheGate 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

I mean, I very much feel sorry for many of the individuals who get caught up in this shit, but at the same time it's interesting to think about the evolutionary impact.

There has never, ever, been a time in recorded or known human history when non-heterosexuality has been so accepted (promoted) nor when being transgender was so accepted (promoted) along with surgeries that cause sterilization (maybe hijra in India).

Think about how many LG(not b)T people will not reproduce now vs 100 years ago when many tried to "pass" or were repressed.

This could be one of the largest evolutionary shifts based on voluntarily sexual selection that's ever occurred.

If there truly is a large genetic component to being LGBT, the LGBT population could be dramatically and rapidly reduced if LGBT people stop having so many kids. If it's mostly environmental, mostly choice, etc., not so big an impact.

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– current_horror 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

I would agree with you, but a lot of FtM transgenders are extremely adamant about having children in order to prove that "men can get pregnant, too". You also see gays using surrogates to have children, which is honestly grotesque; your own sexuality precludes reproduction, so you just rope in a progressive white female friend (the only demographic who rent out their wombs) to help? Awesome - now she gets to intensely bond with a child of her own loins before chucking it to two gay dudes who are more likely to molest.

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– KeeperOfTheGate 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I absolutely agree with you on that... A friend of mine is a lesbian who used IVF to get pregnant. That absolutely happens. If I had to speculate, I would guess that many fewer LGT people are having kids today than in past years. I've known plenty of gay guys who had zero interest in having kids (and some who did want kids, tbf).

Additionally, for Trans who transitioned as children or teens, even if they later detransition, sterility or lack of sexual functioning may make biological parenthood impossible. Since trans surgery didn't exist before ~50 years ago and the number of trans-identified people has skyrocketed only in the last decade or so, this may take a little while to trick down to numbers, but I bet it's significant.

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– deleted 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0
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– KeeperOfTheGate 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Haha. I can't say if it's just my experience, but most of the older lesbians I've met (say age 40+) have been pretty damn chill. No weird hair colors, no problem glasses, just dykes. I know several who are small business owners and who are not even particularly liberal OTHER THAN on sexuality-related issues. Not bad people to just have a beer with.

It seems the younger bi-lesbian-nonbinary whatever crowd are the real manhaters.

Actually, one caveat. Older lesbians who were (are) straight but kept failing in relationships with men until they finally hit the wall and then decided they are actually lesbians and are now in probably sexless relationships where they can just bitch about men and younger women -- they're actually the worst. THE WORST.

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– Xzal 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I never understood that concept. "this one guy did me dirty now I bat for the other team".

Either you were already Bi, or you're being spiteful to yourself.

I guess it then becomes a misguided "they're a woman too, so they know what I want" but then that's no different to having housemates... So what's the draw.

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– KeeperOfTheGate 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Do you know Blocked and Reported? I've listened to a handful of episodes. Herzog seems pretty based.

https://www.patreon.com/blockedandreported

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– PostyMcGee 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

They always try and block the other side of the story as being harmful. Like you can't talk about Brown people crime because people will be more "racist" towards them. Or some Leftist is feeling up female staffers without consent and you can't say anything for the team. They always have some reason in their little heads why it's "moral" to snuff out dissent.

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– Galean 28 points 5 years ago +28 / -0

From what I understand women are effected a lot more then guys are. Sweden had a 1500% spike or something like that of girls transitioning. Honestly this is the only reason that we hear more and more critics against child transitioning.

If it would have affected only men there would have been no serious push against it.

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– Ahaus667 34 points 5 years ago +34 / -0

Women are herd animals, it’s why they get the same stupid tattoos, obsess over the same stupid fads, vote authoritarian, overwhelmingly support censorship, etc. A woman being an individual requires massive deprogramming.

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– Hyponoeo 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

Haha you know I need to think of a .... less offensive way to say that ... but actually very true. Women are practically born to go with the pack no matter what it is. Not all of course, but generally.

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– Arkana 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

Like this image says, women tend to use consensus far more than rationality. It's the path of least resistance when you aren't able to physically defend yourself.

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– elleand202 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

I read a study that said that women who have Aspergers tend to be right wing.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I think it's true but I think you and they are misinterpreting it's purpose.

Women are more socially inclined than men and social filtering is an excellent way of sorting out low-status men that are poor mating subjects.

If a male is going to be good breeding stock, he will have to not only be of an acceptable status at the moment, but he will have to be of an ever increasing status. Women were, and still typically are, burdened with making a mate choice when their mate's age is around 20; when their mate has no children and little experience. It's a terrible gamble to put you social status in the hands of an untested man for the remainder of your life as you steadily lose social value. And good men are the only way women can maintain a high social value, or even have increasing social value past breeding age.

Frankly, young women by themselves aren't really capable of making that kind of a decision since their ability to project consequences 50 years down the road is limited by the fact that they didn't live to 50 yet. Social filtering, optimally through their parents and community who can see whether the potential in a young male is good enough, is an excellent way to determine the viability of a breeding male turning into a high social value male, and good father figure.

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– deleted 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0
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– cartoonericroberts 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

All land between the Cascades and the Rockies has belonged to the Idahoans since time immemorable. The imperialist coastal Oregonians and *shudder* Washingtonians must be defeated.

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– deleted 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0
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– SR388-SAX 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0

Sweden had a 1500% spike or something like that of girls transitioning.

Fair enough, and I've heard this stat repeated many times.

But what's the corresponding statistic for boys? And what are the absolute numbers?

Because another one that I hear a lot is, "girls' suicide rates have increased by 20% but boys' are only up 3%!" Which is all well and good, but boys have a suicide rate that is already several times that of girls, so relative increases don't really tell you what's going on. (numbers not correct, but close enough, and meant to be illustrative)

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– current_horror 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

How many of those girl suicides are "girls"?

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– Xzal 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Percentages also don't mean anything without a solid base figure to work from and both figures have to work from the same base.

They could easily argue 20% rise because an additional 1 in 5 women are committing suicide, compare to a mere 3 in 100 men.

In reality 3x as many men is the increase, but the percentages are switched because the base numbers are off.

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– RussianAgent13 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

It's mostly driven by peer pressure.

Young girls are evil.

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– deleted 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0
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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Comment Reported for: Rule 16: Identity attacks

Comment Approved: Feminists aren't an identity

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– deleted 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0
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– DomitiusOfMassilia 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

No, this has happened like 3 times or so.

But now you see how to avoid the rule as well.

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– SupremeReader [S] 20 points 5 years ago +20 / -0

There's guy saying he wanted to khs after he cut his balls off.

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– RussianAgent13 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

he wanted to khs after he cut his balls off

I mean, yeah. The crime here is that society has made anyone think that's not going to be the natural outcome.

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– deleted 21 points 5 years ago +21 / -0

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