He thinks that cultural genocide of his own people is fine if only they would behave a bit better.
I had a similar discussion with a friend of mine because the area we are living in had a drastic demo change since COVID. Her conclusion was it is the governments fault for not integrating and not the mass immigration itself.
Like this guy she wants cultural genocide and replacement with some third worlders, she just does not want to impact her personally.
This guy still doesn't realize that it's his own ideology, his own actions, that caused his own wife not to feel safe in her own neighborhood/ city/ country.
Liberals have 0 self introspection to see the consequences of their own actions
Her conclusion was it is the governments fault for not integrating and not the mass immigration itself.
Assimilation literally only works through overwhelming external pressure to conform to survive. Its the reason why they say to learn a new language you should just go live somewhere where its spoken primarily and you will get it faster than years of flashcards.
By all means, for it to work they have to be a minority and a small one at that so they can't cluster up to form their own little enclave to escape said pressures. Mass migration cannot ever lead to assimilation even if the government did everything it could and right (lol).
She thinks that they will see how great and polite the rest are behaving and they will try to mimic that. It's not completely wrong as a concept, we can see all the weebs but it does not work when the migrants are here for money and our own society elevates other cultures while putting ours down.
You can make fear of being sent home a good deterrent but that dissipates once the numbers are high enough.
What is happening now is completely different. A large, undefined number of foreign, fighting-age men are being transplanted into working-class towns.
Yes, completely different from the last several decades. Mmhmm.
That has just happened in the northwest Manchester town where I live. In the last 48 hours, it has become obvious that a local hotel has been turned into an immigrant HMO.
He would probably have someone else arrested for saying this.
Tonight my partner and I walked home from my sister-in-law’s. The walk takes 15 minutes. Passing the hotel, and the streets beyond it, we were met with an endless stream of Middle Eastern men, speaking another language and leering at my partner. She was in a summer dress. The stares were entirely inappropriate.
That's all it took? For serious? You could overlook the consistent stabbings and rape happening across the country, but gross men looking at your "partner" made you think "it's roight diverse 'round eer, innit?"
It felt like running a gauntlet. She felt unsafe, and I found myself staring down every man we passed.
Pot meet kettle? Don't look at my "partner" like that or I'll look back in anger. Grrr
When we finally got through, she told me, “I would have felt really unsafe if you weren’t here.”
Er, wait a tic. Go back a wee bit?
It felt like running a gauntlet. She felt unsafe, and [...]
Did he just assume "her" feelings?! I BET HE DOESN'T HAVE A PSYCHIC LOICENS--*billy clubbed*
That guy's lucky they didn't swarm them both & start TOUCHING and shoving her around while saying "Haram!" which in their religion makes it OK to rape a woman. Or a man for that matter...
experience mixed-race schooling and culture. It was the perfect antidote to the excesses of racism from the generation before me.
funny. i experienced what you call mixed race schooling, just across the channel. and it was an antidote, yes, but to the bullshit the likes of you had been peddling for the last three decades. so don't you fucks come complaining about the stares. it was all here for you to see, 25 years ago. But all of you fucks preferred to smoke shit with them to look hip. so shut up and just look away, like the cowards you are.
Ya since moving from my white only area as a kid to my shitty multicultural city I've become a staunch racist. Living with these people is plenty education to the truth of race.
The Shitlib is categorically incapable of understanding that exposure and experience are what drive opinion for normal people. Because Shitlibs are so often removed from the consequences of their own beliefs, they cannot imagine why someone would dislike something they like, except out of ignorance. It's what makes every redditor mock you for having never touched a woman if you have criticism of their whoring behavior, or being a backwards whitetrash redneck if you think 3rd worlders are incompatible with modern civilized society.
He grew up in a smaller city in a Whiter time, with probably fewer than 10% middle-eastern muslim kids at school, whose parents moved to get away from other practicing muslims.
When they are a very small % of the population, a larger proportion of them behave from the sheer pressure and lack of enabling of Islamic culture around them.
And obviously, the kids don't have the same impulses as grown M-E and black men in their 20's till 40's. Especially those in significant groups who enable their worst behaviors.
My mixed race schooling went so well for everyone involved we just re-segregated it. Either by gerrymandering the district line to make All X schools or by high school just two halves of one campus.
But that's among the real groups of various races, and not whatever upper class immigrants he went to school with back when crossing the border meant money and status for most of them.
He had probably 5 kids in the entire school that were of immigrant background and everyone thought it was exotic and cool and so much better then his boring culture.
I've been there and still see it as the "enrichment" of my area is recent. My oldest had 3 black/mixed race kids in the entire school and the same mentality existed.
Once you get more of that people turn sower fast. I'm seeing more and more pushback against immigration despite me being the only conservative in my friends group.
I still have 3 that are either coping that it's not going to be bad, we need them for pensions or the "their human beings" mentality and it's the responsibility of the government to fix it.
He had probably 5 kids in the entire school that were of immigrant background and everyone thought it was exotic and cool and so much better then his boring culture.
Kids don't think like that. No one thinks like that except virtue-signaling shitlibs who pretend to. I actually grew up in a school like that (my parents being immigrants as well, and they wisely wanted as few immigrants as possible), and it's less of a pest in small doses - though the greatest troublemakers were immigrants, of course.
Once you get more of that people turn sower fast. I'm seeing more and more pushback against immigration despite me being the only conservative in my friends group.
People don't believe me when I say that here in Europe, I haven't encountered even one person who supports immigration. Even leftists. They think "everyone has guilt about colonialism and blah blah blah", something that has zero reflection on the ground.
we need them for pensions
This is the worst argument of all. Immigrants grow old as well. You end up in an endless spiral of importing people from countries with the highest birth rates, which tend to be the least civilized places in the world.
the "their human beings" mentality
Gazans shouldn't be slaughtered, but I definitely don't want the Muslims among them anywhere near me.
If your only standard is belonging to the human race then you have no standard. We don't apply that anywhere else in our day to day life, not at our job, not with whom we associate, not to whom we do business with but we're suppose to have no standards on whom we allow in our communities.
I will always agree that human beings are God's children and require respect and help if they require but I'm not going to sacrifice the safety of my family so that some people can have a somewhat improved lifestyle. It's not like there are not millions in their home countries that survive just fine.
I will always agree that human beings are God's children and require respect and help if they require but I'm not going to sacrifice the safety of my family so that some people can have a somewhat improved lifestyle.
Wow, look at this racist. Safety of your family? Far-right nazi dogwhistle. Your family will be unsafe and you will be happy.
Gave him a shot at explaining himself a with little bit more nuance and listened to him interviewing Andrew Doyle. And it looks like it's a lost cause of blind faith and retardation.
"We're in for some interesting times. I'm still keeping the faith that maybe more liberalism can save us" is a direct unironic quote. And they bitch and moan about the "woke right" more than they do the rapist invaders and pedophile infiltrators. Then have the gall to call anyone with an actual solution to those heinous crimes and the low-trust society that bred them irrational and stupid for not believing in "just add moar liberalism harder!" going any different the 2nd time
Nationalism was originally a liberal ideology. Unfortunately, because the positions of liberalism seem to be essentially random, they are now anti-nationalist. It's like the political equivalent of Brownian motion.
So ironically, yes, more 1820s era liberalism would help things.
There are some differences. Tribes tend to be relatively small. And for most times before 1800, people were much less averse to being ruled by people of different cultures, languages and ethnicities.
How do you make an egalitarian? Have them grow up in a safe area and then fill their minds with complete lying nonsense about how all peoples and cultures are equal.
How do you make someone like me who despises egalitarians, have me grow up in the premier melting pot of the world where I got to see and experience the reality from birth.
Egalitarians are myopic fools who don't know reality until they are raped, robbed or murdered by it.
I thought you were in your early twenties. Not an insult or anything, you can even take it as a compliment that you sound young, but am just surprised at your age.
There is a paradox. The people who live in the epicenters of 'diversity' are generally very pro-diversity. This is used as proof that the more 'diversity' you have, the more you like it. There are several explanations offered for this, but most importantly, these people are wildly expensive to live in and they have become not very pleasant places to live in. The vast numbers who fled probably did so because they did not appreciate the 'diversity', and the places known for hosting emigrés from such places are generally bastions of anti-immigration votes. Also, perhaps people who haven't seen their city become a garbage dump might not want it to become one. "These people live in a garbage dump and they don't mind" is not exactly the strongest argument for them.
As if the potential for rape rates increasing is the only issue. These browns are nothing like Europeans, they don’t behave like we do, they don’t want the same things we do, and they will NEVER assimilate our culture unlike the White imports of yesteryear who had no problem fitting in by the first generation that was actually born in the U.S.. The White imports were proud to be American and to have all of the great opportunities our nation had to offer, many of them proved they appreciated their new life here by joining the military, some of whom were forced to risk their lives and potentially kill their former countrymen during WW2, showing their allegiance to us in a way, although that war was purely to benefit global Jewry, but it’s the thought that counts in that case. These brown people, regardless of where they come from will always remain outsiders unless they breed so much that they become the majority demographic in the U.S., then they will feel right at home because the U.S. will become no different than the shidhole homeland they fled from, meaning they will have successfully killed the U.S. and its culture, and will have no sympathy for their host while they do it…..make no mistake, they aren’t coming here to become American, they aren’t excited about a new lifestyle and most of them won’t even try to live as we do, their goal across the board is to make this nation just like the home they left, while advocating for as much power as possible in our government so they can rig the system in their favor, while maintaining the freebies they currently receive from the U.S. taxpayer. What White Americans need to understand is that these brown imports only see White people as an obstacle in the way of conquest, we are their enemy no matter how much we want to be the nice guys just trying to help the needy, and it doesn’t matter whether they become the majority or not, they will harm (and are harming) every aspect of our culture no matter if it’s intentional or not,
That's why they trash and steal everything. They see it as a raid to take wealth back to their "real countries". They know they aren't really American or European.
''When White British people were 20% replaced by blacks and brown in my school, but I was surrounded by 95%+ White adults it was fine.
But when this progressed to 60% everywhere, including adult males, I started to feel really bad about it when encountering vast areas with mostly non-White-British behaving like Non-Whites, barely keeping the rape in their pants.''
Didn't people warn you it was never going to stop at x% and the end-result would be <1% White people left? I know your politicians lied to you about it, but surely other people warned you this was going to happen. Perhaps you called them icky racists though. Oh you did.
James Burnham famously defined liberalism as the ideology of suicide, though the examples he gave weren't great - e.g. he criticized JFK for basically not starting nuclear war during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
It was the perfect antidote to the excesses of racism
Ah, yes, the excesses of racism such as safe towns and general societal cohesion. These retards think they sound so intelligent but their words are so shallow.
"This is what your kind wanted. You sacrificed your woman's dignity by parading her across a gauntlet of invading parasites like a slave merchant showing off his wares. I hope she wises up about how much of a sniveling coward you are and puts some distance between you."
He still doesn't get the root of the issue.
He thinks that cultural genocide of his own people is fine if only they would behave a bit better.
I had a similar discussion with a friend of mine because the area we are living in had a drastic demo change since COVID. Her conclusion was it is the governments fault for not integrating and not the mass immigration itself.
Like this guy she wants cultural genocide and replacement with some third worlders, she just does not want to impact her personally.
This guy still doesn't realize that it's his own ideology, his own actions, that caused his own wife not to feel safe in her own neighborhood/ city/ country.
Liberals have 0 self introspection to see the consequences of their own actions
Assimilation literally only works through overwhelming external pressure to conform to survive. Its the reason why they say to learn a new language you should just go live somewhere where its spoken primarily and you will get it faster than years of flashcards.
By all means, for it to work they have to be a minority and a small one at that so they can't cluster up to form their own little enclave to escape said pressures. Mass migration cannot ever lead to assimilation even if the government did everything it could and right (lol).
She thinks that they will see how great and polite the rest are behaving and they will try to mimic that. It's not completely wrong as a concept, we can see all the weebs but it does not work when the migrants are here for money and our own society elevates other cultures while putting ours down.
You can make fear of being sent home a good deterrent but that dissipates once the numbers are high enough.
"Only when it affects me personally will I stop caring about this issue I previously said I cared about."
I guess too little too late is about as much as we can hope for from these ones.
The logic of every woman on earth
Yes, completely different from the last several decades. Mmhmm.
He would probably have someone else arrested for saying this.
That's all it took? For serious? You could overlook the consistent stabbings and rape happening across the country, but gross men looking at your "partner" made you think "it's roight diverse 'round eer, innit?"
Pot meet kettle? Don't look at my "partner" like that or I'll look back in anger. Grrr
Er, wait a tic. Go back a wee bit?
Did he just assume "her" feelings?! I BET HE DOESN'T HAVE A PSYCHIC LOICENS--*billy clubbed*
That guy's lucky they didn't swarm them both & start TOUCHING and shoving her around while saying "Haram!" which in their religion makes it OK to rape a woman. Or a man for that matter...
Knowing how fucked in the head women are, her panties were likely drenched from the dangerous men looking at her like meat.
funny. i experienced what you call mixed race schooling, just across the channel. and it was an antidote, yes, but to the bullshit the likes of you had been peddling for the last three decades. so don't you fucks come complaining about the stares. it was all here for you to see, 25 years ago. But all of you fucks preferred to smoke shit with them to look hip. so shut up and just look away, like the cowards you are.
Ya since moving from my white only area as a kid to my shitty multicultural city I've become a staunch racist. Living with these people is plenty education to the truth of race.
The Shitlib is categorically incapable of understanding that exposure and experience are what drive opinion for normal people. Because Shitlibs are so often removed from the consequences of their own beliefs, they cannot imagine why someone would dislike something they like, except out of ignorance. It's what makes every redditor mock you for having never touched a woman if you have criticism of their whoring behavior, or being a backwards whitetrash redneck if you think 3rd worlders are incompatible with modern civilized society.
Out of touch retards bug me.
He grew up in a smaller city in a Whiter time, with probably fewer than 10% middle-eastern muslim kids at school, whose parents moved to get away from other practicing muslims.
When they are a very small % of the population, a larger proportion of them behave from the sheer pressure and lack of enabling of Islamic culture around them.
And obviously, the kids don't have the same impulses as grown M-E and black men in their 20's till 40's. Especially those in significant groups who enable their worst behaviors.
My mixed race schooling went so well for everyone involved we just re-segregated it. Either by gerrymandering the district line to make All X schools or by high school just two halves of one campus.
But that's among the real groups of various races, and not whatever upper class immigrants he went to school with back when crossing the border meant money and status for most of them.
He had probably 5 kids in the entire school that were of immigrant background and everyone thought it was exotic and cool and so much better then his boring culture.
I've been there and still see it as the "enrichment" of my area is recent. My oldest had 3 black/mixed race kids in the entire school and the same mentality existed.
Once you get more of that people turn sower fast. I'm seeing more and more pushback against immigration despite me being the only conservative in my friends group.
I still have 3 that are either coping that it's not going to be bad, we need them for pensions or the "their human beings" mentality and it's the responsibility of the government to fix it.
Kids don't think like that. No one thinks like that except virtue-signaling shitlibs who pretend to. I actually grew up in a school like that (my parents being immigrants as well, and they wisely wanted as few immigrants as possible), and it's less of a pest in small doses - though the greatest troublemakers were immigrants, of course.
People don't believe me when I say that here in Europe, I haven't encountered even one person who supports immigration. Even leftists. They think "everyone has guilt about colonialism and blah blah blah", something that has zero reflection on the ground.
This is the worst argument of all. Immigrants grow old as well. You end up in an endless spiral of importing people from countries with the highest birth rates, which tend to be the least civilized places in the world.
Gazans shouldn't be slaughtered, but I definitely don't want the Muslims among them anywhere near me.
If your only standard is belonging to the human race then you have no standard. We don't apply that anywhere else in our day to day life, not at our job, not with whom we associate, not to whom we do business with but we're suppose to have no standards on whom we allow in our communities.
I will always agree that human beings are God's children and require respect and help if they require but I'm not going to sacrifice the safety of my family so that some people can have a somewhat improved lifestyle. It's not like there are not millions in their home countries that survive just fine.
Wow, look at this racist. Safety of your family? Far-right nazi dogwhistle. Your family will be unsafe and you will be happy.
The tone of writing is so feminine I legit thought this guy was gay until he said “her”
Even the muzzies leering at the "partner" in the summer dress could still go one of two ways.
This is a man who would have watched his woman be raped right there and still made excuses for his ideology not being wrong but done wrong.
Gave him a shot at explaining himself a with little bit more nuance and listened to him interviewing Andrew Doyle. And it looks like it's a lost cause of blind faith and retardation.
"We're in for some interesting times. I'm still keeping the faith that maybe more liberalism can save us" is a direct unironic quote. And they bitch and moan about the "woke right" more than they do the rapist invaders and pedophile infiltrators. Then have the gall to call anyone with an actual solution to those heinous crimes and the low-trust society that bred them irrational and stupid for not believing in "just add moar liberalism harder!" going any different the 2nd time
Nationalism was originally a liberal ideology. Unfortunately, because the positions of liberalism seem to be essentially random, they are now anti-nationalist. It's like the political equivalent of Brownian motion.
So ironically, yes, more 1820s era liberalism would help things.
I'm pretty sure Nationalism is just a new label for the default state of humanity for thousands of years: "Hurray for my tribe!"
There are some differences. Tribes tend to be relatively small. And for most times before 1800, people were much less averse to being ruled by people of different cultures, languages and ethnicities.
A nation is just a larger tribe. The nation of Japan is just a tribe the size of the whole archipelago.
How do you make an egalitarian? Have them grow up in a safe area and then fill their minds with complete lying nonsense about how all peoples and cultures are equal.
How do you make someone like me who despises egalitarians, have me grow up in the premier melting pot of the world where I got to see and experience the reality from birth.
Egalitarians are myopic fools who don't know reality until they are raped, robbed or murdered by it.
I worked for about 20 years at a company that had regular contact with a lot of “diverse” clientele.
My extended family have never been regularly exposed to non-whites in either daily life or work.
I’m about as hard right wing as it gets. They’re all wildly leftist.
It truly is a bubble.
Yep, they make incredibly bad assumptions based on their enclosure.
I thought you were in your early twenties. Not an insult or anything, you can even take it as a compliment that you sound young, but am just surprised at your age.
There is a paradox. The people who live in the epicenters of 'diversity' are generally very pro-diversity. This is used as proof that the more 'diversity' you have, the more you like it. There are several explanations offered for this, but most importantly, these people are wildly expensive to live in and they have become not very pleasant places to live in. The vast numbers who fled probably did so because they did not appreciate the 'diversity', and the places known for hosting emigrés from such places are generally bastions of anti-immigration votes. Also, perhaps people who haven't seen their city become a garbage dump might not want it to become one. "These people live in a garbage dump and they don't mind" is not exactly the strongest argument for them.
Most Egalitarians aren't even egalitarian, they want equal outcomes and not equal opportunities.
As if the potential for rape rates increasing is the only issue. These browns are nothing like Europeans, they don’t behave like we do, they don’t want the same things we do, and they will NEVER assimilate our culture unlike the White imports of yesteryear who had no problem fitting in by the first generation that was actually born in the U.S.. The White imports were proud to be American and to have all of the great opportunities our nation had to offer, many of them proved they appreciated their new life here by joining the military, some of whom were forced to risk their lives and potentially kill their former countrymen during WW2, showing their allegiance to us in a way, although that war was purely to benefit global Jewry, but it’s the thought that counts in that case. These brown people, regardless of where they come from will always remain outsiders unless they breed so much that they become the majority demographic in the U.S., then they will feel right at home because the U.S. will become no different than the shidhole homeland they fled from, meaning they will have successfully killed the U.S. and its culture, and will have no sympathy for their host while they do it…..make no mistake, they aren’t coming here to become American, they aren’t excited about a new lifestyle and most of them won’t even try to live as we do, their goal across the board is to make this nation just like the home they left, while advocating for as much power as possible in our government so they can rig the system in their favor, while maintaining the freebies they currently receive from the U.S. taxpayer. What White Americans need to understand is that these brown imports only see White people as an obstacle in the way of conquest, we are their enemy no matter how much we want to be the nice guys just trying to help the needy, and it doesn’t matter whether they become the majority or not, they will harm (and are harming) every aspect of our culture no matter if it’s intentional or not,
That's why they trash and steal everything. They see it as a raid to take wealth back to their "real countries". They know they aren't really American or European.
Were they ever to be sent back, he and his "partner" have to go with.
''When White British people were 20% replaced by blacks and brown in my school, but I was surrounded by 95%+ White adults it was fine.
But when this progressed to 60% everywhere, including adult males, I started to feel really bad about it when encountering vast areas with mostly non-White-British behaving like Non-Whites, barely keeping the rape in their pants.''
Didn't people warn you it was never going to stop at x% and the end-result would be <1% White people left? I know your politicians lied to you about it, but surely other people warned you this was going to happen. Perhaps you called them icky racists though. Oh you did.
Europeans of all countries are going to need a new religion to survive. Progressivism is a death cult with only one end goal.
James Burnham famously defined liberalism as the ideology of suicide, though the examples he gave weren't great - e.g. he criticized JFK for basically not starting nuclear war during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Ah, yes, the excesses of racism such as safe towns and general societal cohesion. These retards think they sound so intelligent but their words are so shallow.
Sure wish I had a twitter account. I'd tell him:
"This is what your kind wanted. You sacrificed your woman's dignity by parading her across a gauntlet of invading parasites like a slave merchant showing off his wares. I hope she wises up about how much of a sniveling coward you are and puts some distance between you."
YOU need to stop pretending none of this matters. Don't look at us.
Oh look, the conspiracy theorists were right again!
lol, lmao
You get what you deserve.
Hate to break it to you, but it's got nothing to do with 'oppresse'd.
This guy is a moron. He doesn't even realize/understand the realization he just had.
The difference is in the "illegal" part of "illegal immigration"