https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermesmann_v._Seyer
Hermesmann v. Seyer was a precedent-setting Kansas, United States, case in which Colleen Hermesmann successfully argued that a woman is entitled to sue the father of her child for child support even if conception occurred as a result of a criminal act committed by the woman.[2][3] The case was brought in her name by the then Kansas Department of Social and Rehabilitation Services.
Colleen Hermesmann was a 16-year-old babysitter who in 1987 was hired to take care of 12-year-old Shane Seyer. The two began a sexual relationship, and when Hermesmann was 17 and Seyer was 13, the former became pregnant. The baby, a daughter, was born in 1989. Criminal charges were brought against Hermesmann by Shawnee County, Kansas, accusing her of "engaging in the act of sexual intercourse with a child under sixteen". Hermesmann ultimately took a plea bargain, pleading guilty to the lesser offense of "contributing to a child's misconduct".
In 1991, the Kansas Department of Social and Rehabilitation Services, in Hermesmann's name, took Seyer to court seeking child support. Hermesmann's criminal culpability was not addressed in this trial, as this was purely a civil court case. The Department also sought and was awarded $7,000, equivalent to $16,200 in 2024,[4] for its own costs.
And the ones mentioned here:
In 1996, the court heard the case of County of San Luis Obispo v. Nathaniel J in which a 34-year-old woman became pregnant after sexually exploiting a 15-year-old boy. He was also forced to pay child support, and then Deputy Attorney General Mary Roth alleged:
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Read what comes right after that:
Certain folk and gleeful pedophilia, name a more iconic combination.
Well, besides the same and hypocrisy.
Damn talk about victim blaming
Stellar reasoning by someone with so much power over the common man.
Every Single Time.
It was woman, imp is right again!
Notice the word rape never comes up? Women's crimes are always soft sold.
So soft that they've even legally defined rape as something only men can do.
Ah but you see "sexual assault totally means the same thing" when used instead for what and when women do it, despite the blatantly obvious difference the terms conjure up when presented without additional context... 🙄
It must be so nice to be a woman and have no responsibility for your actions.
Think of a man and take away reason and accountability
I remember sitting through a mandated sexual harassment seminar in a health class in college. The presenter told us that if a woman has a drop of alcohol she can no longer legally consent. Also, if both the man and woman get drunk and have sex he has raped her. By that logic I'm surprised women are even able to be convicted of a DUI.
This is old news. He already knows.
Yeah I believe he posted this exact case here already.
Remove ALL voting rights from women or at least make it women ALSO have to be part of the draft to vote.
It's a start as cases like this where ALL responsibilities are left to men but with zero benefits is why the West is so broken right now.
No you were right, remove all power privileges from women.
We can barely find men to be trustworthy of power, what makes anyone think we can find women, who are just men minus responsibility and accountability (and a penis) to be capable of handling power?
Repeal the 19th, raise the voting age to 25 and only property owners get to vote.
While this is a good idea originally, we have a lot more laws and problems to solve before this can be effective.
Because right now most Americans, regardless of quality, can't buy a house because Banks and Foreign Nationals are buying up the property. So this kind of idea just means "Chinese, Indians and Jews get to vote for American citizens."
Wait, they don't already?
At least at this moment we can pretend that every American has a vote, even if its all for show.
Under that requirement, they don't even have to pretend anymore. They can just price us all out until only the Elites can afford to vote.
I would say raise it to 35. 25 year olds are barely out of college.
Property owners is basically BlackRock and the bankers at this point.
Make it white and Christian property owners, then you can maybe have a semblance of your country back.
Imp doesnt give a fuck. Do you actually think he is genuine? if he is genuine he would acknowledge which ethnic group is disproportionately responsible for leading feminist movements. but he doesnt and defends them at every turn.
The first wave feminists who were the suffragettes were predominantly WASPs, not Jews
The second wave feminists who led the sexual revolution that legalized porn were Jews
I was reading Battle Cry of Freedom, regarded as one of the best single volume histories on the Civil War, and in the opening chapters the author goes into how changes in technology gave women more free time.
Apparently, the result was that the first half of the 1800s saw an explosion in women's literacy and college attendance. These newly educated middle class women were the vanguard of the most militant abolitionism.
So, we can now blame bored housewives for the civil war, the temperance movement and prohibition, as well as the general decline in society post World War II. Is there anything they can't ruin?
They ruined absolute paradise created by God. Their very nature seems to be ruination.
This. The tiny hats have a lot to answer for, but... There is something wrong with Anglos. Anglo women in particular seem to have a lot of hatred for men. Anglo culture has coddled them for a very long time and produced a lot of the material we call blue pill. Spoiled "sweet", women are wiser, women are more in tune with their nature, women are more inherently good, etc.
He is as genuine as you are.
A man so convinced of the evil of X group that he cannot and will not hear a single thing besides that. By blaming Jews, to him that diminishes the blame and evil of women. His obsession overrides rationality.
Now now, you know they can't see their own reflection in the mirror
True, but its very funny to remind them of how much more similar they are to people they hate and whine about than they are to the "superior peoples" they claim to be protecting.
As I often told Imp, he argues like a woman, and even a Feminist, more than he does anything resembling a man.
It's rather hilarious how many people right here fit the exact same mold of unhinged borderline manic obsession with one particular group being responsible for all of the ills of the universe as Imp is. Except instead of women, they blame a different group.
What's extra funny is the "post limit" rule was introduced mostly because of Imp, and the guy trying to imply "he is totally a fake, a shill and a forum slider" is currently having to post around that every day.
Funny irony there.
You might say he could save others from forum sliding, but not himself.
The key thing here is that the state is most interested in passing on its costs to somebody else, particularly when that someone else is a man, who they couldn't care less about. You'll see none of the usual claptrap about "revictimizing a crime victim" here, because the government has money at stake.
Ordinarily there are laws that prohibit you from financially benefiting from your crime, even if other laws would normally provide you compensation, but in this case I'm sure they argue that it's "FoR tHE cHiLD", even though the money is simply given to the adult guardian with absolutely no checks and balances to ensure that a single penny of it is spent on the intended recipient.
I should probably just get in one little quip before I start imitating the imp over this absolutely fucked up insanity.
So how much of his paper route money will she be getting?
18 years, 18 years (when I'm in need) She got one of yo' kids, got you for 18 years
I know somebody payin' child support for one of his kids His baby momma car and crib is bigger than he is
I am amazed there aren't more violent crimes related to family court.
I can't even imagine what makes a government bureaucrat take a 15 year old male rape victim to court for child support.
I'm loathe to say it, because most of these men are victims of circumstances that would crush us all, but most men in family courts take the coward's way out and kill themselves rather than lash outward.
I don't understand the mindset, but I can at least sympathize that they are truly suffering.
On the one hand, it's not the kid's fault his mother is a predator.
On the other hand, because "child support" is a nebulous demand that somehow doesn't deserve line-item invoices, it's pretty obvious that same family court system would fuck this kid a second time.
Even if "child support" came with line by line itemized receipts, it would not matter.
She buys the kid $50 of groceries. Now she can spend her own $50 on Manhattans with the girls.
She buys the baby clothes and shoes. She can return them for a refund and spend the money any way she wants.
She can't get a refund? She can sell it all for half price and pocket the money.
Have you ever seen how drug addicts use food stamps? These exploits are well known. There is no fool-proof way to turn money into good parenting.
The mother is a child rapist. She should not have custody in the first place. So any support should never go to her.
the legal precedent is bullshit but from someone who was once a 13 year old boy i cant help but think nice, the lad should just live for him self in a country with out extradition knowing he has already made his ancestors proud
What I like most about this, is that a paedophile just gets to keep custody of a child. Because this is a sane judge with sane opinions about children.
This is well known in the MRA groups he’s apart of.
He's not an MRA.
I suppose I meant by proxy.