We need to nominate a dude to the mod team for the EXPRESS purpose of banning this weirdo's alts. I'm grateful to u/DomitiusofMassilia for popping in every few days, but sadly that's not frequent enough. We need a daily reader who can just hit "ban" when he's browsing comments. It won't solve the problem but it'll alleviate it.
We could also freeze new account creation and open it for select periods, announced with pinned posts. Our growth would be disrupted of course, but it's not like that matters that much.
Yeah, this creep is just getting annoying now.
At least this is nominating someone to JOIN Dom than replace.
With the amount that they just keep making posts either endorsing child marriages or women being killed as 'race traitors', I'd say they were plants to try and get a reaction as trolls would've stopped weeks ago after being ignored this long.
Except none of you have been ignoring them. Every thread they are in have people responding to them like clueless fucking normies.
It's literally one of the first rules of any forum: DON'T FEED THE TROLLS.
And yet half this fucking board keeps doing it.
It's honest to god mind boggling, because the trolls aren't even subtle about it, and yet you people keep falling for it.
It wouldn't make a difference. It's an election year and the feds are paying people like this to disrupt and derail dissident forums.
That's not the reason, this particular troll has been pushing pedophilia on other boards on this site daily for multiple years now. He just found a nearly unmoderated board here where his alts will last longer.
It's not a troll. His attitude is common among his miserable kind.
What he is, is persistent.
I’ve been better about not feeding them. It can be tempting with the dumb stuff they post
My block list is getting crowded
Some have fed by leaving comments, if all we did was the down vote to oblivion and that's it then we'd be a lot better.
Lots of people are ignoring him, but you can't prove a negative like that so any and all who do so are "unseen".
I've said before I think Dom is overall a good moderator, despite complaints. He's experienced a lot of whiplash as presumably a libertarian Jew moderating this forum and he's resisted the urge to burn it all down.
I tend to the "mental derangement" explanation over the "plant" option, but that's just my bias. If the curtain was pulled back, maybe forum sliding would become much more nefarious.
The hell are you talking about? Dom is a shitty moderator in every possible regard. He's absent most of the time, and when he does bother to come here all he does is enforce his personal rule that only a handful of bootlicking faggots agree with.
In a vacuum maybe. Compared to most jannies? This is just histrionic.
Like I want to know what kind of jannies you guys are used to where he is "THE WORST EVER" because holy shit that place sounds magical.
The ones I'm used to are the ones who do their job without stirring the pot and you barely even notice their moderation. Dom's attempts at 'transparency' and his justifications when he's asked what the hell he's doing illustrates how much of a determent he is. The faggots who keep reporting comments as 'rule 16 violations' are abusing the reporting system, Dom even admits as much, but he refuses to do anything about it because he doesn't want to discourage his bootlickers. He refuses to do anything about the streetshitter spammer because he claims trolls 'help break the echo chamber'. And, of course, he refuses to elaborate on what he does and doesn't consider a 'rule 16 violation', he just admits that his enforcement is 100% based on his own personal biases. In short, he's just as bad as any tranny reddit mod, he just puts on a pretense of civility.
I'm not asking about the ideal.
I'm asking where you found them exactly, because jannies everywhere are fags and most are far faggier than he is relatively.
I know all the complaints about him, I agree with most of them. In a vacuum they would be horrific. But this isn't a vacuum and most of the people complaining about him are so fucking dramatic about how he is the worst fucking janny ever that I think they'd be far worse than him.
Did I say he's "the worst"? No, OP was sucking Dom's dick, I rebuked him by saying Dom is a shitty moderator. Because he is. Don't know why you feel so compelled to defend the faggot.
You said he was shitty "in every possible regard" and which I called histrionic because he does in fact let us call each other niggerfaggots, which puts him ahead in one regard.
I haven't defended him once. I called you a dramatic nigger for acting like he is the literal worst thing a mod can be when we are on KIA 2 because there is in fact a worse type of mod out there. I got to be on their gay little "summit" because I spent months attacking them.
You still haven't actually told me where these better mods are, and considering you already fell back on the "why are you defending him" goalpost I'll assume they don't exist outside your "real
communismmoderation hasn't ever been tried" idealism.It's all relative bro. Less than 1% of internet moderators would allow discussion of the JQ.
Also, he keeps mod rhetoric low and doesn't start flamewars with users.
He doesn't. He deleted my comment saying that jews run Mexico and our border because I pointed out they elected a jew as president and we have a jew as head of dhs.
Yeah, he's kind of in that twilight zone sometimes.
I beg to differ. Like, seriously.
Dom needs to go, not just for his bad moderation, and more recently his general behavior, but for his extended vacations while negligently letting pedophiles shit up the board unopposed.
Several long time users (i.e. those of us that can trace their activities to the beginnings of KIA1) have volunteered to take up mod positions if only to clean the place up, but Dom it seems would rather go down with the ship than do anything to fix it.
Didn't you see his schizowild post about us all in a secret plot to kill him
Oh is that it? I knew we kind of agreed at the intersection of a few things, as tends to happen with the libertarian more loyal to the economy than the people.
I don't know how much account creation timers would matter. I saw one troll account recently whose account score did not match his eight or so comments, so I think it was an abandoned account that got hijacked. Either that, or this guy has been planning this out at least a year in advance, which is psychotic enough to justify permanent institutionalization.
Going by what others have said most of these accounts from the spammer are old ConPro accounts that have since been banned from there and wherever else, but were never active on this board which is why it's accounts that are 1 year old but still have the handshake. Handshakes don't indicate account age, it's an engagement score.
Someone could make a new account today and do everything correct with posts and comments and lose their handshake within the week. Whereas week old, or longer, accounts that are blatant trolls and only ever get downvoted aren't likely to ever have it happen.
I mean, even if the guy made full anime villain preparations he would run out of old accounts pretty quickly. Freezing signups is a blunt tool, but it works.
If the regular users report the pedo comments, and the mod(s) are active enough, it doesn't matter how well the trolls prepare. They'll get their account nuked, and be forced to make a new one. We dealt with that troll on ConsumeProduct for months, and he still occasionally makes a new account to push his degeneracy. However, the users there are quick to report him, so the mods quickly ban him.
You could try messaging the admins and seeing if they'd be willing to appoint someone under Dom and Clock, since neither seems to be able to moderate obvious off-topic/spam/troll posts.
https://kotakuinaction2.win/send?user=C
https://scored.co/u/c
Or start reporting the user to the Admins who have more tools at their disposal to take care of this guy. Pretty sure all a Mod can do here is ban each new account the guy creates.
I help to moderate ConPro, and we've dealt with the pedo pajeet for a while. It's actually not difficult to do. If the users actively report his comments, the mods can ban his accounts quicker than he can make them. It doesn't take a lot of effort, but it relies upon active users and mods, which is why this forum needs another mod(s).
Makes sense, we've needed another mod for a long time. Especially since Dom only shows up once a week or less.
This sounds like an admin issue anyways. Someone creating hundreds of sockpuppet accounts is best solved by admins who can view more information, and they're a cross-community problem.
Can Dom appoint someone else or does it have to be the admins?
Dom can and should be the one to appoint any new mod, look at c/gaming for what happens when the admins get involved
That was a bit different, since the old mod there was trying to burn down the whole board. Just asking them to give someone who's here every day the power to deal with all those spam posts flagged "sexualization of minors" is a whole 'nother balpark.
I think I'm out of the loop. What happened to c/gaming? I thought it was always modded by the admin Paleo, who refuses to appoint any other mods.
CisCiberianOrchestra was the mod there, he removed a post by Hexen, the community thought he overstepped, he threw up his hands and appointed fishfag as the new mod before quitting. That led to the first appeal to admins to remove fishy (which they did soon enough, given how unanimous that request was lol), but after that they refused multiple requests to appoint new mods through “votes” or nomination threads etc and it’s just kinda sat there in admin limbo since.
Ah okay, I remember that shitshow now. Thanks for the recap.
Still a mess with Paleo as a mod.
We also need to reach out to the admins and see about something more vigorous. Repeatedly banning the pedo pajeet clearly isn't sufficient at this point.
Imp1 for mod!
seconded
Once again I am willing to self nominate under the exclusive remit of only nuking these obvious spam troll accounts. I usually see their OPs within a few hours.
I'm not keen on spotlighting people who haven't volunteered, for garbage work like this, and in this thread a few weeks ago I think a lot of the active old timers have already recused themselves.
This is my line of thinking, too. I probably spend far too much time a day on this board even though I'm not commenting as much as I used to, but it would be enough to play whack-a-mole with this spammer and any others if needed.
The only thing any new mods need done to help address the ongoing shitshow is to ban accounts. That's it. They don't need to pin new threads, edit any site features, or do any other number of things. It only needs a very precise, scalpel driven approach to excise this troll who clearly has nothing going on in his life to have so many accounts made in the first place.
I know I missed a few old timers there, but it's a good starting place. Shame quite a few weren't interested, although I get it.
But, as I've said before, anyone who's been here since the beginning, and is still active, is probably a viable choice.
I also self-nominate again, under the same conditions.
I'd be willing to do it as well, but I know the temptation to ban people for being retarded losers would eventually get the best of me (bye, Lethn) and then I'm just another power tripping janny.
I'd of course justify myself as improving their life by making them go touch grass instead of shouting into this echo chamber, but then the problem is just getting worse.
And so, recused.
I nominate Kiernen.
Thanks. I don't want it, but I've said I'll do it multiple times. Sadly, no response from Dom.
Sadly the case.
Which is retarded since he isn't even doing the job. I don't get why he won't mod another person or two. I'd guess he's worried about the optical loss of power, but whatever. I get not wanting to mod some of the more aggressive people here, or the prime noticers, or other ideologues but, as I've said before, there are plenty of viable options who clearly would make things better, and not worse.
Devil's Advocate; is it possible he's afraid of a reddit-like scenario where a person nominated ends up being a bad actor who starts taking a chainsaw to topics that "offend" them?
I tend to wander the site as a whole, though I usually land in funny, so I don't know the whole situation as well as people who stay here exclusively, which is why I ask
As head mod, he could just unmod them.
I don't see the danger especially as, like I said, there's a fair roster of people who have been here years. While they could go power mad (but, again, easy solution if they did), the chances are pretty low, and they're generally safe picks.
just thought i'd put it out there, lol.
It's always good to steelman when you can.
Total ban on epheeb Pajeet please.
That's good and should be done. Just to delete comments.
It must be an election year.
Asking for a person to dedicate their entire life to stalking and banning some random pajeet 24/7 is a bit much.
Are you volunteering?
That's far from the ask. He's super obvious, you don't need to stalk him, just hit him when he pops up. Anyone who's trustworthy and spends a lot of time here could do the job with very little effort; when you see more of the posts/accounts, ban. Easy.
Eh, I did something like that once on an old mmo php board when it started to get flooded with spam accounts, it helps things but does take some time. I assume here would be a far simpler process, however since all the the accounts in question are from other boards it's not like there will be a list to check for KiA2.win because it's "global".win accounts joining KiA2 to spam rather than being made here specifically. We're it the latter it would be easy to have some sort of gatekeeping setup like for other more spambot like issues, however the situation being what it is likely means a far more hands on approach is needed.
Only reason the II is to my name is because Dom perma banned my original account for telling that pedofile subhuman faggot to hang himself, and that was forever ago, I don't forget Dom, bitch.
WHY do we need to ban this clown?
He’s probably only a “journalist” like Taylor Lorenz and working on a hit piece showing how common retarded comments are.
Because by sheer volume, he's shitting up the place and making the experience worse. He'll probably drive away a couple users, and we're a small community to begin with. A ban is well deserved.
Is there any real method of banning him?
Just downvote and move on? He doesn’t take a second of my time.
Every fucking mod topic is the fucking same. Name someone to be a fucking mod then.
OK then, I nominate myself to be a mod, on the condition that I only act on this guy's posts/accounts.
With Great Power....
Comes great tendies...
Wait, what do you mean we don't even get free tendies and hot pockets anymore? This is bullshit! 😠
Some of the threads suggested nominations, but that's pointless too. If Dom wants an alternate mod then he'll start a topic asking for nominations (and I think he should) but he hasn't done that so there's no reason to discuss it amongst ourselves except to vent and make him aware of the problem.
Most likely he'd just pick someone on his own from the reddit group, like Antonio.
We can be more organized, to clearly present to Dom that new mods is what the community wants.
We should gather the nominations, then make a second topic asking people to vote on them by placing a comment (from a known, non-handshake account). "No new mods" should also be an option.
Then we should make a new topic with the results. Sort of like the KIA vote that was ignored, and was the start of KIA2.
And if the results of the vote gets ignored, we move.
I think there is a reason why Antonio didn't end up a mod here despite being the founder of KIA2 and still active there when this place started.
So I really doubt he would get the choice.