Asian and Black Elves.. Why?
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I am of chinese descent and asian elves makes zero sense.. Most asians that do anything fantasy related (anime, games, art design) make elves with blonde hair/european features in mind. if asians wanted asian elves, they would've made it themselves (and made them super sexy, which helps sell it).
Not sure why fantasy races have to have the same diverse makeup as god damn los angeles. these elves for example loses whatever distinctiveness from other races.. aside from pointy ears.
its actually quite distressing almost.. its like a tourist going to paris and seeing that paris sucks ass.
black elves.. well cant speak for them. i guess they existed since Tuvak from star trek. but that was way before all the ESG/DEI bullshit.
Elves aren’t even specifically white or European. A Greek/ Spanish/ Italian elf would be just as wtf as an Asian elf. They are supposed to be extremely fair skinned, same as faeries.
The japanese sometimes draw dark elves with brownish skin for the sake of exotic sex appeal.
The problem with turning every place into a melting pot is that it implies an ease of travel. The modern world can have the average person travel hundreds of miles per day, but people notice (as much as they want to deny) that it doesn't make sense in a medieval fantasy setting where almost everyone is still traveling on foot. Not to mention how many places would be expected to have tight restrictions on immigration.
If the Dragon Age setting was established to be a place of fast and frequent global/national scale traffic, it wouldn't be a problem. But that's not the case, where even the exalted Grey Wardens are forced to walk and camp in the woods and the closest thing to multiculturalism is the Super Commies nation run by the Qunari.
There is a thing called "verisimilitude" where something needs to appear to be real even if it's not real. You see a dragon in a movie or show and it needs to look like it's a real creature, you can't have a bunch of shitty CGI that make it move like a nonexistent hologram and say "but dragons are fictional maybe dragons just look like shitty CGI hurr". People's brains won't accept that.
Similarly, having several different irl races among several different (fantasy) races like it's a New York public school is fucking with the verisimilitude of the setting because it implies the civilizations have widespread modern ease of travel.
If the places were always like that, then there wouldn't be all these different skin tones people would be far more blended due to hundreds/thousands of years or race mixing. But the characters don't have planes, trains, or automobiles and in Dragon Age even transport magic is extremely limited or else it would have been piss easy for your characters to travel around in previous DA games.
Reminds me of when I was playing Greedfall. The diversity in the empire made sense because it was a global empire. But then you get to the island that has been near completely isolate for hundreds of years and somehow all the native tribes are perfectly diverse with all the couples being different races. Makes NO sense!
That sort of thinking has ruined entertainment. Witcher comes to mind.
oh yeah.. witcher tv show had asian elves. was eww.
seems tv show is ruining warhammer too.
I know it was diverse because the showrunner didn’t want to adapt the book
They love diversity, which is why elves are indistinguishable from Orcs except for the pointy ears. Shut up, racist.
The cultural vandalism and gaslighting continues.
Vandalism isn't precise enough. It is dissolution.
It's rape. Cultural rape. They are forcing fictional races to bear 'their' children.
Nice, even better!
interesting angle.. i like it.
Damn, you nailed it. 100% going to use this on the future
When Kingdom Come Deliverance was released and game journos were salty about no black people in it, their EXACT justification was that Africans wouldn't leave white people alone, they'd come and rape a bunch of them and there would be descendants. That's when I realized they are fantasizing about literally raping fiction.
How can you have "Asian elves" in a universe that has no continent of Asia?
Going to throw in some "South American elves" too then?
This is why they have removed the concept of race from dnd almost entirely. They are trying to rewrite both history and science in order to claim that racial categories are 100% social constructions and not loose (but very real) expressions of collections of genetic traits. We can identify race by bone structures. Unlike the climate change hoax, race is settled science.
Race is, in fact, such settled science that any manufacturer of new medication is required by law to test them on a whole bunch of different ages, races, and both men & women due to how incredibly varied the reaction to the medicine can be. Organ transplants are another 'race is real' subject. Neither of these are even that complex, yet here we are.
Haven’t they crapped on Gygax as well?
Gary and his son Ernie Jr. as well.
Absurd
Yeah to them it's just about different appearances. Elves are just people with pointy ears, orcs are just people with green skin, etc. There is no longer any real "diversity" just different coats of paint on the same boring stories.
And yet, despite race being a purely social construct, they’ll still dismiss transracialism.
The dissolution of race is only for white cultures, peoples, and nations. Sorta like how postmodernism never targets Marxism.
yep. fantasy european based races will be diverse.. but if some fantasy african tribe appears in the same game or story, they will all be black.
which is ironic because that implies africans are racist and xenophobic since they aren't diverse lol.
I'm reminded of one of the Legend of Korra hack writers (but I repeat myself,) crowing about adding South Asians to Republic City. Because four fantasy nations and ethnicities simply weren't enough.
They aren't coded. Elves simply are elves, not niggers.
That Ni’qqa clan elf just stole my +2 self-pedaling bicycle!
I hate queer communists so much.
What is this from? Also I have trouble believing people like this were ever fans. Also the use of the word “coded” tells me not to take them seriously. Fellowship of the Ring was written for a British audience but plenty of people across the world were able to read it without whining that it didn’t represent them. Why didn’t they make a story with elves of their choosing instead of demanding something else change to suit them
I’ve heard that game is DOA considering who is working on it
Been DOA ever since it was killed the first time to focus on Anthem and then killed AGAIN to make the game using the Anthem engine just so they could show something came of that Dumpster Fire.
It's been in Development Hell for years any of the original team has long since left and none of these people are fans of the original game much less Fantasy. Bioware is fucked as Rocksteady and Rocksteady will have Sweet Baby Vandalize Hogwarts Legacy before they all die off.
DA Inquisition was already a hit or miss game coming after a prior hit or miss game, and they waited most of a decade to finally start releasing this one.
Its probably not fully DOA, because Baldur's Gate trannies will eat it up, but it'll be barely a reflection of what Dragon Age was prior.
Maybe it's the amount of Anime I watch or the old school fantasy I used to read, but for me elves were either Blonde, Brunette or Ginger tall White lithe people, even the men. They're meant to feel ethereal like outside of our normal confined lifespans, unless you go dark elves and wood elves (which STILL don't look Black or Asian) making them look more like humans especially in diversity takes that away from them.
Frieren was such a good anime man, probably my favorite elf of all time and now alongside a couple others one of the first when I think elf. To think people see that and think racism/we gotta add black elves is just insane to me.
the funny thing is.. i actually find purple/blue skinned elves super hot lol. XD.
It’s only funny because you’re correctly recognizing that beauty standards are about symmetry/bone structure, not skin color… until you realize that the former strongly correlates with the latter. That’s why fantasy dark elves are hot while average black women, by and large, are not.
A byproduct of this dynamic is that dark skinned elves do not qualify as non-white representation because they are not presenting as American blacks. Drow don’t have the precise facial structures or cultural moors of African Americans, therefore we need African American elves to satisfy our DEI mandate.
Japan makes dozens of "chocolate waifus" every year and not one of them counts as representation either.
Because the only way to make a black woman hot is to remove everything black about them except the color. Just like in real life where 99% of the "hot black chicks" in the world are mixed to hell and back and got all the good genes.
So you mean a lot of South America ESPECIALLY Brazil?
Will say on a personal note, Brazilian mixed with Asian is a LETHAL blend, all the curves of a Latina in a petite Asian package.
....yes I enjoy shortstacks, how could you tell?
If they want more black characters that are loved.. need characters like Sheva from RE5. But i know they will fuck her up if they ever remade RE5. Probably none of those sexy DLC outfits like the fairy tale and business skirt. Probably fuck with her facial structure to make her "less european". Even if they kept her face the same.. her default outfit will be nerfed. probably some kinda black spats or something covering her cleavage.
If me and that black elf were on the same side of the street.. I'd cross to the other side..
apparently no matter how you "code" them, they just look like thugs..
despite only being 13% of the shire's population..
These people have issues.
Race is a literal evolutionary adaptation to various climates of the world.
Elves are genuinely portrayed as coming from one singular climate, forest, that usually translates to the most lily white of white people because they barely see the sun.
Literally only works if you have reduced race down to a check on a box that you can just pick with no actual thought behind it.
Why do so many people want games just to be an absolute clusterfuck of races and colors instead of representing reality where we have a bunch of sub races scattered across the world that look and act vastly different. It’s so fucking stupid to see black elves because that’s not what they are. Elves have always had fair pale skin. Actual cultural appropriation
Basing your elves on a race would be one thing, but they shouldn't have exactly the same races as humans and you shouldn't do it in an existing story where you've already decided what elves look like.
I love how black and Asian elves just magically spawn out of existence in this world now.
Like Rings of Power and Don Lemonlas
*rangs of power
We already have asian DnD elves. The Gith are fucking Asian. All the old art is a hilariously stereotypical Asian caricatures, with a bit of fantasy magic thrown in.
It's literally chink elves. Their race is split in half between the evil Gith that follow a dictatorship, and the Good ones that follow fantasy Confucianism. Gith have 3 racial classes which are basically kung-fu monks, kung-fu swordmasters, and old guys that meditate so much they get superpowers (enlightened, originally psionicists, but now wizards).
And even if you don't like Gith because they've been turned into a sci-fi race to hide their racial traits, there's plenty of other ones. Yuan-ti, Kenku, kitsune/shapeshifters, Spirit Folk. There's no shortage of eastern representation. Or there was, before they decided to take all the flavor out of those classes so they could pretend they're not distinctly racial too.
Truly prioritizing the fantasy aspect of the story when you put being black and Asian as being more important or noticeable than Elf.
The irony is that the Elf part is more believable than blacks or Asians contributing anything to actual medieval culture.
I think you have Asians confused with blacks.
These are the same freaks who expect to be able to fuck aliens.
But there are supposed to be black elves...
Drow. Evil. Killed on sight.
No blonde/silver haired elf no buy, simple as that.
And then there is the Quanari who's straight up just a black man painted blue with horns stapled to his head.
This “game” is going to be a Dark and Darker clone, isn’t it?
What are Dark Elves supposed to be then? I guess they don't count because they look less thug.
Guess they looked at BG3 third act and thought that we need too. They also had black/asian dwarfs (not duergar) and elfs. Either way cant wait for Bioware to be put down finally. They havent produced anything worthwhile in years.
We wuz elves n shieeeeeet
Anime, manga, and JRPGs don't seem to have any trouble with creating their own fantasy races based on their own mythology. I actually hate how ubiquitous Tolkien races are because of how watered-down they've become. It's one thing to create a setting that's thoughtfully derivative of Middle Earth, but there's so much cheap knockoff trash that's made Tolkien tropes odious, even before DEI elves.