This. Hollywood actors have always been subversive commies. It’s just that the subversion pre-2012 seems tame in comparison to the current year insanity.
Star Trek was a communist utopia.
The Terminator franchise centered around a stronk wymyn.
Star Wars was tamer, but still followed the oppressed vs oppressor (space nazis) trope.
The Matrix had snippets of woke messages that got worse every sequel.
Regarding Star Wars, I unironically like the prequel trilogy more (despite its issues), because the analogy of the Roman Republic turning into the Roman Empire works out better than the lazy anti-nazi portrayal of the OT.
Star Wars is a conservative fantasy fable, much like all classic fantasy (LotR).
It's a world where progress is bad, the past is a source of wisdom and purity, the future is darkness and oppression. The heroes are heroic because of their special blood and divine gifts, not because of their beliefs. They win by trying to restore the world to its past state, violence is not only okay but morally necessary. The villains are evil because of supernatural forces; there is no compromise, no way to solve all the problems of the world. The heroes have to remain vigilant and keep using righteous violence to thrash evil every generation or so. The heroes rule through divine right and their inherent superior gifts, the only people who are upset by this are wicked and evil.
Compare it to Star Trek, the progressive fantasy. In Star Trek the heroes aren't special, they're the most educated. Violence is seen as an inherent failure state, something that should be avoided at all costs. The past is a source of barbarism and ignorance, the future is abundance, enlightenment, and utopia. The heroes win by educating everyone and freeing them from the oppression of the past. Religious beliefs are seen as defacto bad. All problems are solvable, all conflicts are the result of resource shortfall or prejudice. The heroes rule through consensus and democracy, never by fiat.
People like classic Fantasy because it's conservative, and that's why hollywood keeps trying to destroy it. Consider Dune vs. Foundation; similar issue. Dune is the anti-Foundation, and it's a damn sight more popular. Dune is the argument that the galaxy is better off ruled by the violent warlord than the scientific consensus.
Foundation is pretty crazy. It's about a pre-plan to manage the collapse and Build Back Better.
The Foundation comes under threat by someone that is born with special blood and divine gift. He is described as vile and reprehensible, but that's just from the perspective of the Foundation framing their opposition. They can't simply refute his means or his talents, they have to call him ugly.
It's not really trying to manage the collapse, it just acknowledges that the collapse is inevitable. From there, it tries to figure out how to bring things back to proper civilization as quickly as possible. It's been a while since I read it though, and I don't properly remember how they dealt with the Mule.
I use "manage" loosely. But yes, it's all a conspiracy. We can presume that the empire has quadrillions or pentillions to spend on researching mind control at the society level (psychomathmatics) and they use because they don't trust people to make decisions for themselves, they assume that people need a strong galaxy-wide empire to take care of them.
They can't even if they wanted to. The script is liable to change half way after they signed the contract and then the whole plot of the film can change radically on the editing room floor long after they've stopped filming. Actors have no say in what finished product comes out of their work.
Haven't we seen this happen over and over again this past decade?
We grew up watching legendary actors who made their signature character iconic, in an epic tale of overcoming great odds in movies and TV shows beloved by entire generations (often passed down to the next)...
... only for the actor to come back and stand side-by-side with progressive directors and say "AKCHEWELLY, my iconic character did NOT live happily ever after and every great victory we achieved was for nothing and here I am to show you it was a BAD END... oh, and here's a bunch of new young progressive characters to shit on me while I literally say out loud how so much better they are than stupid old failures like me."
Why are they doing it?
The tales they told were epic. They were legendary stories that enraptured people, who then passed it down to their children. Why would these actors come back decades later to RUIN that story and cut that immortal lifeline and desecrate their memory?
Are they all truly broke? Were they desperate for the paycheck the studios were shoving through their mail slot? Did they really spend every cent they had and were now actors with zero roles and terrified of the humiliating prospect of applying for another job to pay the bills?
Is that the way the industry works? Do they keep you on the verge of bankruptcy by making you pay for membership in The Club™ , lest you be blacklisted? Is that it?
Did these legendary actors empty their bank accounts donating to Scientology all these years to guarantee producers hired them because that was "The Club" in those days, and membership was mandatory or you were blacklisted, and now Wokeness™ is the new mandatory membership and not publically regurgitating woke doctrine gets you on the new Hollywood blacklist?
Did the producers come up to them and say "you can either accept the paycheck and help us destroy your legacy, or we can spread the word and no one will ever hire you again. Choose: a legacy that outlives you, or bankruptcy"?
What other reason is there? Why do they do it? Their iconic roles and legendary tales would have outlived them for a century or more. But no more. Now no one will show it to their kids, who will go on to show it to theirs. Why do they do it?
Why do they keep doing it?
TL;DR:
Back to the Future 4 (2026)
College activist and inexplicably brilliant Zora Floyd (Willow Smith) uses her self-taught mastery of quantum time mechanics to rebuild the Time Machine from scratch.
With little to no help from her belligerent and lowkey racist mentor Martin McFly (now a miserable old divorcee following his arrest for wife-beating) Zora is fiercely determined to change history and prevent the rise of President Biff Tannen and his White Supremacy party so she and her trans girlfriend can finally get married.
Celebrities (and upper class people) are in constant competition with each other. It is all about meeting the expections of everyone within your class. You need to hit the right milestones and talking point lest you become a point of ridicule in the community or outright shunned for not fitting in. To these people the only status worth having is status within your own class, everything else is meaningless because everyone else is beneath you.
To be fair Linda Hamilton agreed to the role before the script was finished, and she hated the final script and hated that they killed off John Connor. I’ll give her a pass.
Lucas was saying he had nothing to do with the new star wars for years before we got to see what he was talking about. It's on at least a dozen red carpets.
I could swear I remember hearing that Hamill signed up with the assumption that Lucas would direct. Lucas did give an outline for the sequels that were thrown out
I told my kids, Lucas kept saying he had nothing to do with it at every red carpet event. It took about five years for us to see why he kept doing that.
I know Mark Hamill thought Lucas would be doing the sequels and he wasn’t expecting what happened to Luke. I know he expressed his issues with Rian Johnson but I wish he had held up the movie. EU didn’t ruin his character
Lmao yah, I haven't watched Dr. WHO or Marvel stuff in like 4 years now. But I can at least keep up with what nonsense they are coming up with, thanks to Nerdrotic. I ain't wasting hours watching a season of new Dr. WHO or Loki, I'd rather read a book or watch One Piece.
To erase the classics from existence so the entirety of the (((entertainment))) industry is nothing but hateful anti-White propaganda. Can't have anything at all that doesn't make us feel broken and demoralized all the time. Gaming is the same.
They are attempting to replace pop culture with “The Message” propaganda. The major issue is the classics exist either for free (yar har), second hand on E-Bay, or extremely cheap. They can take it over all they want but it’s starting to fall on deaf ears. Unless they force all of the UK to pay for the TV license with no opt out, it’ll all die soon.
I'll give them the most charitable answer, in that they want to do it for the fans and in some ways think the fans the writing is meant to be attacking are the "bad fans" they want out anyway.
Because I doubt Keanu has malicious motives in doing so. And Warwick Davis cares about no ideology but the one that promotes himself and other midgets in that order.
Stewart however is absolutely of the idea of "bully the facists out of my fandom by any means necessary."
I gave star trek actors a pass because I was reading screen rant. They had an unprecedented number of young actors become the sexual orientation of the character they were playing. Articles were linked to other magazine celebrating that nonsense.
Being kind to the people in front of you, even when you think they're idiots is probably easier for actors than the rest of us. I on the other hand find it insane to take a job as an alien scifi fantacy character, and decide to become that make believe character. The children today have serious issues. Point, and laugh material serious issues. Seven of nine was even in a lesbian relationship with a junkie at one point.
The writers got pretty upset no one missed their garbage. The BIPOC rules for winning an award need to be removed, or the movies will keep flopping. The one show I watched where it wasn't forced was Winx, and that got canceled because the last 10 mins of SFX cost them more money than the rest of the show.
Ignore them. They're just dancing monkeys. There are well over a century of movies from all over the world waiting for you to explore. Some even have for real dancing monkeys. Dive in and have a few laughs.
Because many of these dudes are in their final years. This is about getting that last big fat paycheck to cover long-term costs before they have to retire.
Even though these actors have made it big and have almost certainly managed to accrue an exorbitant amount of wealth, they still have to worry about various forms of upkeep, mounting medical costs, taxes, etc. all while only having maybe royalties and small contracts to keep them afloat.
Not that I'm saying the actors are without fault, but it's not exactly like it's an entirely unreasonable choice to make for their own various concerns. They're also not in the same kind of bargaining position as they might've been back in their prime, and I'm sure the studios are very much aware of this and are far more likely to win in any drawn out disagreements with actors. And frankly, how often have you actually seen actors even in their prime manage to force a studio into some kind of sensible compromise?
The majority of the blame though goes to the studios and the writers who deliberately undermine the quality of the work they put into any project, largely to serve their own ideological zealotry. And maybe also for a a little bit of ESG funding I suppose. But the point I'm making is that they're the ones actively going out of their way to ruin shit.
Bruce Willis was the only one honest about this. He made anything because he wanted his family to be alright when he wasn't around to take care of them. He was in some of the absolute worst movies, but that movie could say it was staring Bruce Willis.
He played the whole, " Whoa is me, they never let me be the director. They said I was too young when they stopped me in the middle... " But, it's very easy to see in hindsight he was already becoming the ass he is today.
That isn't really an endorsement, though. For the Picard show to be successful it needed to go back to being TNG since the first seasons were that bad. The first season literally rips off Mass Effect 1 plot wise!
From a straight drama perspective, you have the give the characters struggles and conflict or there's no story. So some regression is always going to happen when bringing back old heroes.
However, that doesn't preclude moving these characters to a mentor role and shifting to a new generation of heroes, like what Force Awakens seemed to be doing before Rian Johnson effed it all up.
On another level though there is a real push to destroy all the old heroes people like. It's market share monopolization; if people have nothing left but woke heroes then we'll actually start liking woke heroes, right? Rian Johnson and many other progressive types hate fantasy because it's inherently conservative, so they "deconstruct" it in order to transform it into a progressive fantasy. But it failed and people rejected it because it's just not Star Wars anymore.
Gay commies have to subvert and destroy everything in their quest to dissolve the cultural glue that holds civilization together.
It is never about making something for them, it is always about taking something away from YOU.
Because they made "the deal" to get famous in the first place.
They are owned.
This. Hollywood actors have always been subversive commies. It’s just that the subversion pre-2012 seems tame in comparison to the current year insanity.
Star Trek was a communist utopia.
The Terminator franchise centered around a stronk wymyn.
Star Wars was tamer, but still followed the oppressed vs oppressor (space nazis) trope.
The Matrix had snippets of woke messages that got worse every sequel.
Regarding Star Wars, I unironically like the prequel trilogy more (despite its issues), because the analogy of the Roman Republic turning into the Roman Empire works out better than the lazy anti-nazi portrayal of the OT.
Star Wars is a conservative fantasy fable, much like all classic fantasy (LotR).
It's a world where progress is bad, the past is a source of wisdom and purity, the future is darkness and oppression. The heroes are heroic because of their special blood and divine gifts, not because of their beliefs. They win by trying to restore the world to its past state, violence is not only okay but morally necessary. The villains are evil because of supernatural forces; there is no compromise, no way to solve all the problems of the world. The heroes have to remain vigilant and keep using righteous violence to thrash evil every generation or so. The heroes rule through divine right and their inherent superior gifts, the only people who are upset by this are wicked and evil.
Compare it to Star Trek, the progressive fantasy. In Star Trek the heroes aren't special, they're the most educated. Violence is seen as an inherent failure state, something that should be avoided at all costs. The past is a source of barbarism and ignorance, the future is abundance, enlightenment, and utopia. The heroes win by educating everyone and freeing them from the oppression of the past. Religious beliefs are seen as defacto bad. All problems are solvable, all conflicts are the result of resource shortfall or prejudice. The heroes rule through consensus and democracy, never by fiat.
People like classic Fantasy because it's conservative, and that's why hollywood keeps trying to destroy it. Consider Dune vs. Foundation; similar issue. Dune is the anti-Foundation, and it's a damn sight more popular. Dune is the argument that the galaxy is better off ruled by the violent warlord than the scientific consensus.
Foundation is pretty crazy. It's about a pre-plan to manage the collapse and Build Back Better.
The Foundation comes under threat by someone that is born with special blood and divine gift. He is described as vile and reprehensible, but that's just from the perspective of the Foundation framing their opposition. They can't simply refute his means or his talents, they have to call him ugly.
It's not really trying to manage the collapse, it just acknowledges that the collapse is inevitable. From there, it tries to figure out how to bring things back to proper civilization as quickly as possible. It's been a while since I read it though, and I don't properly remember how they dealt with the Mule.
I use "manage" loosely. But yes, it's all a conspiracy. We can presume that the empire has quadrillions or pentillions to spend on researching mind control at the society level (psychomathmatics) and they use because they don't trust people to make decisions for themselves, they assume that people need a strong galaxy-wide empire to take care of them.
Speaking of prequels, I recently got the novelization of episode 3 and I hear it’s really good. Haven’t read it yet
It's possibly cope, but The Matrix Resurrections may have been intentionally bad
Most actors are super dumb. They just read the lines and collect the paycheck, and give no thought to any of it.
They can't even if they wanted to. The script is liable to change half way after they signed the contract and then the whole plot of the film can change radically on the editing room floor long after they've stopped filming. Actors have no say in what finished product comes out of their work.
Once you take the ticket, your legacy isn't yours anymore.
Haven't we seen this happen over and over again this past decade?
We grew up watching legendary actors who made their signature character iconic, in an epic tale of overcoming great odds in movies and TV shows beloved by entire generations (often passed down to the next)...
... only for the actor to come back and stand side-by-side with progressive directors and say "AKCHEWELLY, my iconic character did NOT live happily ever after and every great victory we achieved was for nothing and here I am to show you it was a BAD END... oh, and here's a bunch of new young progressive characters to shit on me while I literally say out loud how so much better they are than stupid old failures like me."
Why are they doing it?
The tales they told were epic. They were legendary stories that enraptured people, who then passed it down to their children. Why would these actors come back decades later to RUIN that story and cut that immortal lifeline and desecrate their memory?
Are they all truly broke? Were they desperate for the paycheck the studios were shoving through their mail slot? Did they really spend every cent they had and were now actors with zero roles and terrified of the humiliating prospect of applying for another job to pay the bills?
Is that the way the industry works? Do they keep you on the verge of bankruptcy by making you pay for membership in The Club™ , lest you be blacklisted? Is that it?
Did these legendary actors empty their bank accounts donating to Scientology all these years to guarantee producers hired them because that was "The Club" in those days, and membership was mandatory or you were blacklisted, and now Wokeness™ is the new mandatory membership and not publically regurgitating woke doctrine gets you on the new Hollywood blacklist?
Did the producers come up to them and say "you can either accept the paycheck and help us destroy your legacy, or we can spread the word and no one will ever hire you again. Choose: a legacy that outlives you, or bankruptcy"?
What other reason is there? Why do they do it? Their iconic roles and legendary tales would have outlived them for a century or more. But no more. Now no one will show it to their kids, who will go on to show it to theirs. Why do they do it?
Why do they keep doing it?
TL;DR:
Thanks, I hate it.
I really hope no Hollywood people are reading this because this is the perfect storyline for a “modern audience”
Celebrities (and upper class people) are in constant competition with each other. It is all about meeting the expections of everyone within your class. You need to hit the right milestones and talking point lest you become a point of ridicule in the community or outright shunned for not fitting in. To these people the only status worth having is status within your own class, everything else is meaningless because everyone else is beneath you.
TeamAmericaVomiting.mp4
Time machine? Cant she just user her black girl magic?
To be fair Linda Hamilton agreed to the role before the script was finished, and she hated the final script and hated that they killed off John Connor. I’ll give her a pass.
She said that? Didn’t know. I know Hamill was unhappy with Luke’a portrayal
hamill was sounding the alarm bells before the mouse gave him a talk and he stopped.
I’ve seen Disney Star Wars shills using that as proof that he changed his mind about last Jedi. But I’m convinced him and Lucas were warned
Lucas was saying he had nothing to do with the new star wars for years before we got to see what he was talking about. It's on at least a dozen red carpets.
I could swear I remember hearing that Hamill signed up with the assumption that Lucas would direct. Lucas did give an outline for the sequels that were thrown out
I told my kids, Lucas kept saying he had nothing to do with it at every red carpet event. It took about five years for us to see why he kept doing that.
https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/w7w6cggn9by.mp4
I know Mark Hamill thought Lucas would be doing the sequels and he wasn’t expecting what happened to Luke. I know he expressed his issues with Rian Johnson but I wish he had held up the movie. EU didn’t ruin his character
The biggest thing that has ruined Luke as a character has been Hamill's SJW proselytizing on social media
Can’t argue with that. Interesting how the expanded universe never turned him into a loser. But they weren’t trying to piss off fans
He was doing that long before the sequels started up.
Yeah exactly. Hamil was actually kinda liked when he criticized Rian Johnson. Then Trump and Covid happened..... Smh
you watch these movies?
YouTube reviewers do all the watching for me on these turds.
Nerdrotic and crew carry that cross so we don't have to.
Lmao yah, I haven't watched Dr. WHO or Marvel stuff in like 4 years now. But I can at least keep up with what nonsense they are coming up with, thanks to Nerdrotic. I ain't wasting hours watching a season of new Dr. WHO or Loki, I'd rather read a book or watch One Piece.
To erase the classics from existence so the entirety of the (((entertainment))) industry is nothing but hateful anti-White propaganda. Can't have anything at all that doesn't make us feel broken and demoralized all the time. Gaming is the same.
They are attempting to replace pop culture with “The Message” propaganda. The major issue is the classics exist either for free (yar har), second hand on E-Bay, or extremely cheap. They can take it over all they want but it’s starting to fall on deaf ears. Unless they force all of the UK to pay for the TV license with no opt out, it’ll all die soon.
I'll give them the most charitable answer, in that they want to do it for the fans and in some ways think the fans the writing is meant to be attacking are the "bad fans" they want out anyway.
Because I doubt Keanu has malicious motives in doing so. And Warwick Davis cares about no ideology but the one that promotes himself and other midgets in that order.
Stewart however is absolutely of the idea of "bully the facists out of my fandom by any means necessary."
I gave star trek actors a pass because I was reading screen rant. They had an unprecedented number of young actors become the sexual orientation of the character they were playing. Articles were linked to other magazine celebrating that nonsense.
Being kind to the people in front of you, even when you think they're idiots is probably easier for actors than the rest of us. I on the other hand find it insane to take a job as an alien scifi fantacy character, and decide to become that make believe character. The children today have serious issues. Point, and laugh material serious issues. Seven of nine was even in a lesbian relationship with a junkie at one point.
https://imgchest.com/p/md7og9djdyp
Janeway was done wrong because of her age. Seven of nine picked up her legacy. Being discussed as admiral is all we get of Janeway these days.
They do it for money, the "writers" do it for ideology. Neither care about the character in question
The writers got pretty upset no one missed their garbage. The BIPOC rules for winning an award need to be removed, or the movies will keep flopping. The one show I watched where it wasn't forced was Winx, and that got canceled because the last 10 mins of SFX cost them more money than the rest of the show.
That adrenochrome ain't gonna pay for itself.
The answer is that the system owns them, of course.
Dumb? Or paid millions of dollars, among other 'fringe benefits"?
Ignore them. They're just dancing monkeys. There are well over a century of movies from all over the world waiting for you to explore. Some even have for real dancing monkeys. Dive in and have a few laughs.
Because many of these dudes are in their final years. This is about getting that last big fat paycheck to cover long-term costs before they have to retire.
Even though these actors have made it big and have almost certainly managed to accrue an exorbitant amount of wealth, they still have to worry about various forms of upkeep, mounting medical costs, taxes, etc. all while only having maybe royalties and small contracts to keep them afloat.
Not that I'm saying the actors are without fault, but it's not exactly like it's an entirely unreasonable choice to make for their own various concerns. They're also not in the same kind of bargaining position as they might've been back in their prime, and I'm sure the studios are very much aware of this and are far more likely to win in any drawn out disagreements with actors. And frankly, how often have you actually seen actors even in their prime manage to force a studio into some kind of sensible compromise?
The majority of the blame though goes to the studios and the writers who deliberately undermine the quality of the work they put into any project, largely to serve their own ideological zealotry. And maybe also for a a little bit of ESG funding I suppose. But the point I'm making is that they're the ones actively going out of their way to ruin shit.
Bruce Willis was the only one honest about this. He made anything because he wanted his family to be alright when he wasn't around to take care of them. He was in some of the absolute worst movies, but that movie could say it was staring Bruce Willis.
No kidding, before he announced he was done his final movie lineup was such a spread of random/generic action fliks it was almost absurd.
At least Rick Moranis didnt come back.
Spaceballs: The Reboot
spaceballs the search for more money
Something something 🇮🇱 something something 💰💰
$$$$$
Picard season 3 is like a TNG movie. Just skip season 1, and 2. You'll love it!
You mean Robot Replacement Picard Season 3?
That's what I heard, but I'm still not watching it.
I posted on c/startrek. You can scroll, and decide for yourself. There's a clip labeled something like, " This is why I watched Picard season 3".
The perfect, heart-felt love letter from the guy who shat all over the grill last thanksgiving.
So good! All the feels! Only mentions burning turd-burgers six times!
Being that I was so excited that I could watch season 3 without the first two, I'm honesty wondering if I'm whooshed. 🤣
I gotta borrow someone log in but I gave up on nu-trek and I’ve been told numerous times season 3 is really good
There are places where there are movies 2 watch.
It was easy to stream free online. Just don't use Google as your search engine.
Yeah it was a shame we had to put up with the first 2 season just for some more Borg
Screen rant warned me. I skipped it until the preview saying Riker was directing 3.
I wasn't a fan of the retconning of the borg though
I liked how they excluded Wesley Crusher. He's an ass on Reddit, and they didn't even like him as a kid.
He blocked me after I tweeted the classic 'Shut Up Wesley' to him.
He played the whole, " Whoa is me, they never let me be the director. They said I was too young when they stopped me in the middle... " But, it's very easy to see in hindsight he was already becoming the ass he is today.
Woe*
That was hilarious. They brought back every character except one lmaaooooo
And, he had a big brother! There was one single line where Beverly said, " I wish my sons were closer"... Moved on!
That's right! His brand new brother even had a major role, but not him. Fucking rofl.
As I said last time,
https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/17r9N9IYuv/x/c/4TxilQ94Smm
It is coming from me. I don't watch tv. I would rather read a book. Equalizer 3 is good btw, watched it with my son's for Thanksgiving.
From a straight drama perspective, you have the give the characters struggles and conflict or there's no story. So some regression is always going to happen when bringing back old heroes.
However, that doesn't preclude moving these characters to a mentor role and shifting to a new generation of heroes, like what Force Awakens seemed to be doing before Rian Johnson effed it all up.
On another level though there is a real push to destroy all the old heroes people like. It's market share monopolization; if people have nothing left but woke heroes then we'll actually start liking woke heroes, right? Rian Johnson and many other progressive types hate fantasy because it's inherently conservative, so they "deconstruct" it in order to transform it into a progressive fantasy. But it failed and people rejected it because it's just not Star Wars anymore.
It's the standard Hollywood formula--find a hit film and "remake" it endless times to milk it for as many $ as possible.
At the same time you increase the longevity of aging stars.
It's the toppling of cultural monuments.
Keanu Reeves did say that the Wachowski brothers lost their touch.
As for the rest, they were never your heroes. They were just silly actors putting on a bit.
Money, boredom, vanity, contractual obligations, and/or someone they trust telling them it was a good idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNn72qnp6kI