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After rampant crime chases away stores, Chicago mayor says he wants to open government run stores. (www.zerohedge.com)
posted 2 years ago by SparkMandrill83 2 years ago by SparkMandrill83 +61 / -0
Chicago Mayor Johnson Moves Toward City-Run Grocery Stores
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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– computadora 45 points 2 years ago +45 / -0

No consideration given to the root cause of food deserts. No one wants to admit that more policing and more black people in prison is the only non-commie answer.

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– deleted 33 points 2 years ago +33 / -0
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– Frux7 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

That’s expensive. How about helicopter rides?

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– deleted 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0
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– MargarineMongoose 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Still more expensive than some rope and a trip to Home Depot for the lumber.

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– activated_almonds 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Lumber and rope are both reusable.

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– realerfunction 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

the brazil solution

"any methods used to stop them will not be prosecuted"

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– Norenia 45 points 2 years ago +45 / -0

And it's going to cost five times what typical grocery stores cost to run. Because that's what government does with your tax dollars.

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– Oppressinator 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

There will be a sticker that reads discount on any item they want you to buy, healthy foods will cost 20x. And of course at the end of the day they sold those items at pre-markdown price it was a hush-hush discount on salted air and refined sugar droplets and peniswater

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– Gizortnik 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Ten times.

The first five times is due to sheer incompetence and mismanagement.

The second five times are because this is an embezzlement scheme for they mayor.

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– deleted 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0
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– Hardcore_Facestab 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

And these grocery stores will also be looted. Just because the name on the wall changes does not mean that the looters hunting for their gibs change.

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– Smith1980 32 points 2 years ago +32 / -0

I have relatives in Chicago who voted for this fool and now have the nerve to complain.

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– Ahaus667 33 points 2 years ago +33 / -0

How could they know he would do exactly what everyone said he would?!

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– Smith1980 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

I just listened to my cousin rant. I’m beyond the point of trying to argue with them.

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– ghostfox1_ 29 points 2 years ago +29 / -0

Tell them they voted for it, and to shut the fuck up. I don't have patience for retardation like that.

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– Vivs3rdSock 29 points 2 years ago +29 / -0

Every time they bitch about this remind them how they voted. If the complain remind them again. Keep reminding them until they get the message this is their own fault and you are not their agony aunt.

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– Smith1980 31 points 2 years ago +31 / -0

When I want to be a smart Alec I just say “but at least there are no mean tweets”. Similar situation with a Christian cousin who complained about the lgbt agenda being pushed. I said you voted for it. He was like well I didn’t vote for that.

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– deleted 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0
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– Smith1980 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Thanks.

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– yvaN_ehT_nioJ 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

I just smile and nod. What else can you do?

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– smokeypanda 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

If I'm chatting a complete stranger but I have to stick around for more than 5 minutes, sure I'll validate their nonsense before leaving for the bathroom. I'm not usually evasive but I have a visceral distaste for pedestrian gossip and template banter, especially when it seeps into serious topics.

Friends or family (younger than 65), I'll let them dig a hole before countering.

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– Smith1980 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Exactly.

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– BlueDrache 22 points 2 years ago +22 / -0

Chicongo to Chicommie ... Giant Meteor when?

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– deleted 20 points 2 years ago +20 / -0
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– current_horror 19 points 2 years ago +19 / -0

They will use federal tax dollars to pave over any funding shortfalls, and the government can just print more money right up until total currency collapse. No one is insulated from this.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

They will blame big business.

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– deleted 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0
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– ArtemisFoul 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Chi-na lol

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– MargarineMongoose 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

When someone finally finds the black materia.

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– BlueDrache 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Knock knock ... Hello, we are from the Church of the Jenova's Witnesses

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

I'd be fine with this so long as they weren't using Federal money.

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– Lurker404 25 points 2 years ago +25 / -0

As if the feds wouldn't install even worse people.

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– GiveThemNothing 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

Yes, more government will fix it.

Keep voting blue.

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– DemolitionsPanda 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

You think NO government will fix it? Then move to Somalia!

Government is an evil necessity. Without government we can't have a state.

You want an honest, transparent government that is (relatively) efficent and gives good value. It happens that smaller governments are easier to oversee.

If there is anything that the last decade has shown us, it is that corporate governance isn't any better, and it is a whole lot less accountable. Do you think it is a better idea to replacing publicly elected and publicly funded government with giant private corporations? I don't.

And again we are back to "fix the government" or "Move to Somalia"

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– GiveThemNothing 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

Don't be dense, Panda. I said more government, not no government.

Also, something something "giant private corporations", inane babble "Somalia", where the fuck are you getting that from?

What kind of fucked up bamboo shoots are they feeding you at the zoo?

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– Gizortnik 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

No government would be better. Somalia has dozens of governments, that's actually the problem. Africa is actually well known for having almost nothing but highly centralized, leftist, factional, governments.

No government, and mechanisms that prevent them from forming are not the same as multiple governments vying for control over a region with unlimited political violence at their disposal.

You'll never get down to no government, but it's best to limit it as strictly as possible.

Which is farther than anything OP said because you made a ridiculous false dichotomy.

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– DemolitionsPanda 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

So we can't have No Government. You agree with me!

One of the alternatives to Government is privatization, which would be corporations. That is very popular in China. You don't agree?

Do you realize you basically restated my reply?

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– Gizortnik 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

One of the alternatives to Government is privatization, which would be corporations

No. Privatization is not the establishment of legal fictions

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– Assassin47 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

You're a statist liar or an NPC generating anti-libertarian strawmen. Do you know anything about what actual limited government advocates believe? GiveThemNothing never implied Chicago needed "NO GOVERNMENT", Gizortnik never suggested Chicago should be run by corporations. (how the fuck are corporations an alternative to government when they require government to exist?) That came from your demented mind.

I'm surprised you didn't invoke "muh roads".

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– DemolitionsPanda 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Wow. Revel in that ignorance. Semantic arguments are a winner, right? Because if you can argue about definitions then you can't possibly lose!

Fascism is literally the merger of state and corporations. A partnership between corporations and the interests of the Government. It is literally the political model that is in use in China today. There is a member of the CCP on every single company board AND the state can, and does nationalize any company at will. The difference between a corporation and the CCP government (in china) is literally one of semantics.

As another example: In the 2000s the Chinese Department of Defense also raised revenue through owning a CD pressing factory to press and distribute pirate CDs and DVDs to the west. At the point where the Defense Department is self funding the difference between a Government Agency or Service and a corporation is ... what exactly?

Governments are governments because they have the monopoly on force and taxation. The government uses that force to ensure that revenue is raised to fund the state. That line can (and does) get very, very blurry. For example it is common for Oil Companies employ mercenaries to enforce their interests. That is just a single example of corporate governance.

So if you are looking to an alternative to government, then you might a private corporation that acts in the role of a government to do the things that governments do. You know, like "muh roads". As I have stated in my initial post; It isn't a good alternative.

Which puts us right back to: "Government reform please."

The thing that is so irritating about this conversation is that you actually agree with my position. You are just too fucking stubborn to make any concessions to facts or logic, in spite of your ignorance of the history of governance. Fascism was kind of a big deal, and remains the only (moderately) successful form of socialism.

So you win! Congratulations. You are the last man standing and get all the internet points! Have a great day.

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– deleted 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0
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– censorthisss 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

They'll never acknowledge the root cause of the problem (which in this case is rampant crime, which makes it unprofitable to operate stores in these locations) let alone do anything to address it.

Anything to avoid accountability for black people.

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– SparkMandrill83 [S] 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

The root cause is government interference, which allows the crime to happen then viciously prosecutes anyone who tries to stop it. This is a problem that would have been solved ages ago if they didnt exist

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– BlueDrache 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

if they didnt exist

You might be on to something.

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– SoctaticMethod1 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Enjoy the bread lines suckers! Next time pay attention to who you vote for not HOW your masters tell you to vote

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– Gizortnik 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Chicago has bread lines

Bernie Sanders: "And that's a good thing!"

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– Decrixxx 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

prediction, these will turn out to be precursors to breadlines.

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– SparkMandrill83 [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Duh. 50 social credits for your daily meal, which you can't afford because you liked a problematic tweet 10 years ago

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– BlueDrache 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Nothing feeds a revolution like a starving population. Ahem ... stares at France

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– bloodguard 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Amazing. We all know how this is going to turn out.

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– ParadigmShift2070 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Lol not so fast ypipo, breadline is for the blacks

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– GeronimoJackson 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

One more step towards a total bribe economy. Slip the govt cashier a few bucks, walk out with a case of Cheerios. Stores will be empty except for produce types nobody wants and circus peanut candies.

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– covok48 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

This is your future.

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– MargarineMongoose 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Or, and hear me out here, we just imprison/hang the niggers who keep committing all the crime instead of turning them loose?

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– deleted 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

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