No government would be better. Somalia has dozens of governments, that's actually the problem. Africa is actually well known for having almost nothing but highly centralized, leftist, factional, governments.
No government, and mechanisms that prevent them from forming are not the same as multiple governments vying for control over a region with unlimited political violence at their disposal.
You'll never get down to no government, but it's best to limit it as strictly as possible.
Which is farther than anything OP said because you made a ridiculous false dichotomy.
You're a statist liar or an NPC generating anti-libertarian strawmen. Do you know anything about what actual limited government advocates believe? GiveThemNothing never implied Chicago needed "NO GOVERNMENT", Gizortnik never suggested Chicago should be run by corporations. (how the fuck are corporations an alternative to government when they require government to exist?) That came from your demented mind.
Wow. Revel in that ignorance. Semantic arguments are a winner, right? Because if you can argue about definitions then you can't possibly lose!
Fascism is literally the merger of state and corporations. A partnership between corporations and the interests of the Government. It is literally the political model that is in use in China today. There is a member of the CCP on every single company board AND the state can, and does nationalize any company at will. The difference between a corporation and the CCP government (in china) is literally one of semantics.
As another example: In the 2000s the Chinese Department of Defense also raised revenue through owning a CD pressing factory to press and distribute pirate CDs and DVDs to the west. At the point where the Defense Department is self funding the difference between a Government Agency or Service and a corporation is ... what exactly?
Governments are governments because they have the monopoly on force and taxation. The government uses that force to ensure that revenue is raised to fund the state. That line can (and does) get very, very blurry. For example it is common for Oil Companies employ mercenaries to enforce their interests. That is just a single example of corporate governance.
So if you are looking to an alternative to government, then you might a private corporation that acts in the role of a government to do the things that governments do. You know, like "muh roads". As I have stated in my initial post; It isn't a good alternative.
Which puts us right back to: "Government reform please."
The thing that is so irritating about this conversation is that you actually agree with my position. You are just too fucking stubborn to make any concessions to facts or logic, in spite of your ignorance of the history of governance. Fascism was kind of a big deal, and remains the only (moderately) successful form of socialism.
So you win! Congratulations. You are the last man standing and get all the internet points! Have a great day.
No government would be better. Somalia has dozens of governments, that's actually the problem. Africa is actually well known for having almost nothing but highly centralized, leftist, factional, governments.
No government, and mechanisms that prevent them from forming are not the same as multiple governments vying for control over a region with unlimited political violence at their disposal.
You'll never get down to no government, but it's best to limit it as strictly as possible.
Which is farther than anything OP said because you made a ridiculous false dichotomy.
So we can't have No Government. You agree with me!
One of the alternatives to Government is privatization, which would be corporations. That is very popular in China. You don't agree?
Do you realize you basically restated my reply?
No. Privatization is not the establishment of legal fictions
You're a statist liar or an NPC generating anti-libertarian strawmen. Do you know anything about what actual limited government advocates believe? GiveThemNothing never implied Chicago needed "NO GOVERNMENT", Gizortnik never suggested Chicago should be run by corporations. (how the fuck are corporations an alternative to government when they require government to exist?) That came from your demented mind.
I'm surprised you didn't invoke "muh roads".
Wow. Revel in that ignorance. Semantic arguments are a winner, right? Because if you can argue about definitions then you can't possibly lose!
Fascism is literally the merger of state and corporations. A partnership between corporations and the interests of the Government. It is literally the political model that is in use in China today. There is a member of the CCP on every single company board AND the state can, and does nationalize any company at will. The difference between a corporation and the CCP government (in china) is literally one of semantics.
As another example: In the 2000s the Chinese Department of Defense also raised revenue through owning a CD pressing factory to press and distribute pirate CDs and DVDs to the west. At the point where the Defense Department is self funding the difference between a Government Agency or Service and a corporation is ... what exactly?
Governments are governments because they have the monopoly on force and taxation. The government uses that force to ensure that revenue is raised to fund the state. That line can (and does) get very, very blurry. For example it is common for Oil Companies employ mercenaries to enforce their interests. That is just a single example of corporate governance.
So if you are looking to an alternative to government, then you might a private corporation that acts in the role of a government to do the things that governments do. You know, like "muh roads". As I have stated in my initial post; It isn't a good alternative.
Which puts us right back to: "Government reform please."
The thing that is so irritating about this conversation is that you actually agree with my position. You are just too fucking stubborn to make any concessions to facts or logic, in spite of your ignorance of the history of governance. Fascism was kind of a big deal, and remains the only (moderately) successful form of socialism.
So you win! Congratulations. You are the last man standing and get all the internet points! Have a great day.