Peterson has been a bit of a retard (especially) lately, but it's still nice to have more high-profile people pointing out how evil and dystopic Canada is.
I don't know why all the comments are bashing the guy. This is an interesting tweet, no matter how you feel about Peterson. There are only so many Canadians who aren't total cucks, and there are some things Peterson probably won't cuck on. So that's something.
Too many people want a symbol and not a human being. I've seen that happen to way too many kids who want to 'become famous'. They end up going a little crazy with all the pressure.
Instead, I see Peterson as a guy who is a bit burnt out, and unable to keep up the symbol as much as he wants to be. He's human, and should be treated as such.
People want a political messiah, so they turn viciously on anyone at the first sign of imperfection. The guy's just a Psychologist who knows enough about Marxism to despise it.
I hate the purity tests that people place on others, and anyone who fails the purity tests are automatically assumed to be “controlled opposition” or some such nonsense. Half the idiots here inventing these purity tests probably voted for Obama twice and now have the gall to consider themselves the gatekeepers of the “correct” political opinions. It’s childish and pedantic.
Yeah, I think what he did in 2017 and 2018 was really great. I just treat him as if he had died when he went into that coma; nothing since has really been of the same strength, bravery, or character.
I think there is a hidden optimism that some people tend to have, the desire for that one standout representative of their views and a lot of us sympathized with Jordan Peterson in the beginning. For a lot of people, in the days of milk and honey, it was him, he was thee guy.
Turns out the slippery slope is real and shit escalates, views change, and you begin to realize he's actually very lukewarm. Resentment builds as he illustrates himself as a cuck who smooches the feet of your enemy and all the people making the world shitty for you and yours - then you see that his philosophy inasfar as we're concerned is to stand and get slapped around for the sake of individuality and a completely misguided idea of assertive decorum instead of collectivizing where all our enemies are tagging in, fist bumps all around, shaking hands, and sharpening their knives loudly while having a laugh between themselves about what quarter they're going to take off us. But hey at least we've got clean bedrooms! Atleast we're not nazis! Yowza! Imagine if the roles were reversed! Don't they know how noble and complete we are?!
Then comes the demoralizing realization that all of the real heros died squealing like the boxcutter ukranian and you stand on the shoulders of cuckolds, that pretty much all of what you previously thought about red vs blue was a fucking lie sold to you as a nice little designer opinion - that all of this was inevitable and basically pointless and that to even be a noticeable player in the game you have to grovel and kiss the rings. Money only likes the middling.
There are no heroes and people ought to stop placing them on a pedestal out of naivety.
Well said. I think that's spot on. I'd love if Peterson, or Trump, or any of those "influencer" grifters like Milo, or celebrities like Kanye or Elon, and so on, were who I wanted them to be...or even who they themselves claimed to be. But they're often good on at most a couple issues, and then have massive character flaws elsewhere.
People are bashing him because you don't get to try and fuck people over, then come crying for their protection when your mutual enemies come for you.
Personally, this timing feels almost too perfect. He was getting roasted hard for being a retard, and now suddenly he is "under attack by the censoring government." You know, the thing that made him famous in the first place and got him all those supporters by looking like he was standing against it.
The anonymity debate is irrelevant in this case. JBPs criticism of government only has weight if his name is behind it. Anonymity would have completely neutered his criticism, so anonymity was never an option. People saying “what about anonymity now?” completely miss this critical point.
It never was, isn't, and never will be. Discourse was never meant to be this easily accessible, and anonymity allowed the wrong people to connect with each other to share their ideology with zero risk involved. No personal accountability is why the internet is in the state it's in.
I think you must have me confused with someone else. Try again.
You, forty-five minutes ago:
It [anonymity] never was [important], isn't, and never will be...anonymity allowed the wrong people to connect with each other to share their ideology with zero risk involved. No personal accountability is why the internet is in the state it's in.
I'm surprised I didn't have to register a flight plan with the FAA, given how far the point went over your head. I suppose the most embarrassing part about it is how you jumped ass-first into this discussion.
Or maybe your point isn't as clever as you think it is.
What is your point, that you want some outside authority to force you to put your name and address out there, to try to convince you not to be a retard on the internet, because you won't voluntarily hold yourself to account?
A Reddit-tier meme. Very nice. Not once was dial-up mentioned, or even hinted at, which leaves me to believe you're suffering from some sort of issue that affects your ability to perceive and process information. I'm no medical professional, but I think you should see someone about that.
Since you're a retarded faggot I'll spell it out for you.
You're a newcomer. You never dealt with dial up internet so you didn't experience the golden age of the internet when everyone on there understood very well that giving out your personal information online was a terrible idea and why.
Having a free market of ideas seems pretty important to me, and anonymity also seems like the only realistic way to achieve it. When I say anonymity, though, I am excluding something like twitter or here, where we all have recognizable usernames with trackable histories and number scores. Ideas should stand on their own merit, with no egos to weigh them down.
But sure, there is a sort of widespread problem of people lacking skin in the game. I just think it's a petty matter compared to letting people test ideas without the restraint of their own egos (also the restraint of tyrants, but that's the obvious point).
Anonymity isn't the only way to achieve it. It just seems that way because a bunch of losers who don't know how to actually communicate beyond memes, edgy remarks, and other low tier comments have made it seem like their identities need to be protected while they spew uselessness, and because unhinged leftists have fortified the various platforms for discussion by exploiting the very rules set in place to protect the people as a whole.
I'm aware it's too late to fix the problem at this point. The slate would have to be wiped clean and the entire foundation of the West would have to be laid again with the inclusion of very clear instructions and laws to prevent the filth from seeping in again.
I get the impression that you didn't get to see any of the good times in anonymous spaces, years ago. It's filled with lazy crap now, sure, but I think it could come back if feds and jannies could chill (they probably can't now). Some people still carry the cultural values that were hidden behind an abrasive front, and that gives me some hope in it.
What is another method to achieve it, though? Wiping the slate clean and restarting isn't a very convincing alternative.
I did. It was good while it lasted, but the internet is too easily accessible now. Part of the prestige back then was that there wasn't this nearly unanimous social pressure to be online during every waking hour. The general social degeneracy also hadn't set in yet. Boredom set in and began of cycle of deviance because a wealth of knowledge and educated discussions weren't interesting enough anymore. People are kept civil by the potential consequences of their actions. Those don't exist if everyone is given a platform to speak with no ties to who they actually are. This would work against those who would subvert our system before they've already seized it.
When has that ever happened? If anything, they'd claim he's not pro-Jewish enough because, despite being pro-Jewish, he's not on the right narratives overall, so they'll just use that anyway. He's "far right," so he hates the Jews.
Well if the "Ontario College of Psychologists" is an organization with any sort of enforcement authority, "social-media communication retraining" certainly sounds like a totally legitimate and important function and not at all like a reeducation struggle session.
Fortunately, at least prior to receiving the retraining, he can respond with an appropriate "fuck off."
I used to adore JBP and now I'm mostly just jaded about him. I don't hate him, but he's allowing himself to be maneuvered into the position of RW release valve he was always accused of being. He's not living up to the standard set by JBP circa 2018.
I'd love it if he didn't cuck this time. The dude practically alternates between boomer-level risk aversion and throwing it all to the wind.
JBP allowing his thot/midwit of a daughter to act as his POA/ SDM while he was ill and letting her manage and assume his social media presence was one of the first redflags.
This is so fucking Orwellian it's like the Libs are sniffing cocaine laced with shreded copies of 1984 every morning before going out to destroy the country.
Peterson has been a bit of a retard (especially) lately, but it's still nice to have more high-profile people pointing out how evil and dystopic Canada is.
I don't know why all the comments are bashing the guy. This is an interesting tweet, no matter how you feel about Peterson. There are only so many Canadians who aren't total cucks, and there are some things Peterson probably won't cuck on. So that's something.
Too many people want a symbol and not a human being. I've seen that happen to way too many kids who want to 'become famous'. They end up going a little crazy with all the pressure.
Instead, I see Peterson as a guy who is a bit burnt out, and unable to keep up the symbol as much as he wants to be. He's human, and should be treated as such.
People want a political messiah, so they turn viciously on anyone at the first sign of imperfection. The guy's just a Psychologist who knows enough about Marxism to despise it.
As everyone waits for their forever Jesus, we'll continue the Rat Utopia.
I think you hit the nail on the head.
I hate the purity tests that people place on others, and anyone who fails the purity tests are automatically assumed to be “controlled opposition” or some such nonsense. Half the idiots here inventing these purity tests probably voted for Obama twice and now have the gall to consider themselves the gatekeepers of the “correct” political opinions. It’s childish and pedantic.
Yeah, I think what he did in 2017 and 2018 was really great. I just treat him as if he had died when he went into that coma; nothing since has really been of the same strength, bravery, or character.
I think there is a hidden optimism that some people tend to have, the desire for that one standout representative of their views and a lot of us sympathized with Jordan Peterson in the beginning. For a lot of people, in the days of milk and honey, it was him, he was thee guy.
Turns out the slippery slope is real and shit escalates, views change, and you begin to realize he's actually very lukewarm. Resentment builds as he illustrates himself as a cuck who smooches the feet of your enemy and all the people making the world shitty for you and yours - then you see that his philosophy inasfar as we're concerned is to stand and get slapped around for the sake of individuality and a completely misguided idea of assertive decorum instead of collectivizing where all our enemies are tagging in, fist bumps all around, shaking hands, and sharpening their knives loudly while having a laugh between themselves about what quarter they're going to take off us. But hey at least we've got clean bedrooms! Atleast we're not nazis! Yowza! Imagine if the roles were reversed! Don't they know how noble and complete we are?!
Then comes the demoralizing realization that all of the real heros died squealing like the boxcutter ukranian and you stand on the shoulders of cuckolds, that pretty much all of what you previously thought about red vs blue was a fucking lie sold to you as a nice little designer opinion - that all of this was inevitable and basically pointless and that to even be a noticeable player in the game you have to grovel and kiss the rings. Money only likes the middling.
There are no heroes and people ought to stop placing them on a pedestal out of naivety.
Well said. I think that's spot on. I'd love if Peterson, or Trump, or any of those "influencer" grifters like Milo, or celebrities like Kanye or Elon, and so on, were who I wanted them to be...or even who they themselves claimed to be. But they're often good on at most a couple issues, and then have massive character flaws elsewhere.
That’s disingenuous, even the other week he wanted to make internet anonymity impossible because trolls.
Yeah, and it's a dumb opinion. Doesn't make him controlled opposition.
I would say having the same views as communist China about user interaction without being controlled opposition is worse
Or maybe it’s because he repeatedly has made these “blunders” and at the end of the day he’s still an academia liberal.
And it was clear sarcasm based on the recent events with Kanye. Get your head out of your ass.
JBP was always clear from the very start where he stood politically. No, it’s something else.
People are bashing him because you don't get to try and fuck people over, then come crying for their protection when your mutual enemies come for you.
Personally, this timing feels almost too perfect. He was getting roasted hard for being a retard, and now suddenly he is "under attack by the censoring government." You know, the thing that made him famous in the first place and got him all those supporters by looking like he was standing against it.
You have been invited to Lake LaoGai for retraining with our experts.
Greetings. I am Joo Dee. There is no war in Ba Sing Se.
I am honored to serve the Canadian empire
Jeez wonder why internet anonymity is important now Peterstein?
The anonymity debate is irrelevant in this case. JBPs criticism of government only has weight if his name is behind it. Anonymity would have completely neutered his criticism, so anonymity was never an option. People saying “what about anonymity now?” completely miss this critical point.
It never was, isn't, and never will be. Discourse was never meant to be this easily accessible, and anonymity allowed the wrong people to connect with each other to share their ideology with zero risk involved. No personal accountability is why the internet is in the state it's in.
Give me your name and address faggot
I think you must have me confused with someone else. Try again.
You, forty-five minutes ago:
Yeah, he surely confused you with someone else.
I'm surprised I didn't have to register a flight plan with the FAA, given how far the point went over your head. I suppose the most embarrassing part about it is how you jumped ass-first into this discussion.
Or maybe your point isn't as clever as you think it is.
What is your point, that you want some outside authority to force you to put your name and address out there, to try to convince you not to be a retard on the internet, because you won't voluntarily hold yourself to account?
I mean, hey, you do you.
Tell me when it finally lands, will you? Thanks.
Oh, anonymity is good for you?
Keep trying. I'm sure, given enough attempts, you'll get there eventually.
Tell me you never had dial up without telling me that you never had dial up.
A Reddit-tier meme. Very nice. Not once was dial-up mentioned, or even hinted at, which leaves me to believe you're suffering from some sort of issue that affects your ability to perceive and process information. I'm no medical professional, but I think you should see someone about that.
Since you're a retarded faggot I'll spell it out for you.
You're a newcomer. You never dealt with dial up internet so you didn't experience the golden age of the internet when everyone on there understood very well that giving out your personal information online was a terrible idea and why.
You're projecting pretty hard. Something you want to talk about?
Having a free market of ideas seems pretty important to me, and anonymity also seems like the only realistic way to achieve it. When I say anonymity, though, I am excluding something like twitter or here, where we all have recognizable usernames with trackable histories and number scores. Ideas should stand on their own merit, with no egos to weigh them down.
But sure, there is a sort of widespread problem of people lacking skin in the game. I just think it's a petty matter compared to letting people test ideas without the restraint of their own egos (also the restraint of tyrants, but that's the obvious point).
Anonymity isn't the only way to achieve it. It just seems that way because a bunch of losers who don't know how to actually communicate beyond memes, edgy remarks, and other low tier comments have made it seem like their identities need to be protected while they spew uselessness, and because unhinged leftists have fortified the various platforms for discussion by exploiting the very rules set in place to protect the people as a whole.
I'm aware it's too late to fix the problem at this point. The slate would have to be wiped clean and the entire foundation of the West would have to be laid again with the inclusion of very clear instructions and laws to prevent the filth from seeping in again.
I get the impression that you didn't get to see any of the good times in anonymous spaces, years ago. It's filled with lazy crap now, sure, but I think it could come back if feds and jannies could chill (they probably can't now). Some people still carry the cultural values that were hidden behind an abrasive front, and that gives me some hope in it.
What is another method to achieve it, though? Wiping the slate clean and restarting isn't a very convincing alternative.
I did. It was good while it lasted, but the internet is too easily accessible now. Part of the prestige back then was that there wasn't this nearly unanimous social pressure to be online during every waking hour. The general social degeneracy also hadn't set in yet. Boredom set in and began of cycle of deviance because a wealth of knowledge and educated discussions weren't interesting enough anymore. People are kept civil by the potential consequences of their actions. Those don't exist if everyone is given a platform to speak with no ties to who they actually are. This would work against those who would subvert our system before they've already seized it.
Damn, I would have thought they wanted him to go for retraining for being too pro-Jewish.
When has that ever happened? If anything, they'd claim he's not pro-Jewish enough because, despite being pro-Jewish, he's not on the right narratives overall, so they'll just use that anyway. He's "far right," so he hates the Jews.
It was sarcasm.
I think OP just wanted to insert the Jews into the conversation.
A day in the life of Ivan Denisovich
Controlled opposition. That's all he ever was.
That's what you call everyone.
Retard
I'm fairly certain that's the first time I've used that phrase.
That phrase can’t go out of style soon enough. At this point, the phrase “controlled opposition” is to the Right what “Fascist” is to the Left.
Well if the "Ontario College of Psychologists" is an organization with any sort of enforcement authority, "social-media communication retraining" certainly sounds like a totally legitimate and important function and not at all like a reeducation struggle session.
Fortunately, at least prior to receiving the retraining, he can respond with an appropriate "fuck off."
OCP, now where have I heard that before?
oh that's nice to see that faggot seething now as if anyone should give half a shit about him.
I used to adore JBP and now I'm mostly just jaded about him. I don't hate him, but he's allowing himself to be maneuvered into the position of RW release valve he was always accused of being. He's not living up to the standard set by JBP circa 2018.
I'd love it if he didn't cuck this time. The dude practically alternates between boomer-level risk aversion and throwing it all to the wind.
JBP allowing his thot/midwit of a daughter to act as his POA/ SDM while he was ill and letting her manage and assume his social media presence was one of the first redflags.
Stop using acronyms.
Take the course on the condition that you can video and release it. I wouldn't mind seeing them try to use their NPC tricks on him.
It’s not a ‘college’ as in school, it’s the professional body, the guild and accreditation board. The people who control if you have a license or not.
You accepted a little of their evil into your body, JP. Now they're going going to rape the rest in.
O Canada.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1610340730320429064
This is so fucking Orwellian it's like the Libs are sniffing cocaine laced with shreded copies of 1984 every morning before going out to destroy the country.
Looks like the Ontario School of Psychologists thinks Jordan is a bit of a demon troll who shouldn’t have the right to free speech.
Petersons recent anti anon stance has been dumb but this goes right back to what made him popular in the first place… Canadian tyrants
Retweeting Poilievre is pretty cringe though.