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– Lurker404 51 points 5 years ago +51 / -0

If it hurts Hollywood I approve.

Not like I'd want to go to theaters anymore anyway. Almost all of it is woke garbage. The overhead is just not worth it (I'd have to go to the nearest ultra-liberal city which adds at least 40-60 minutes of travel time in public transport plus fare cost). Tickets are too expensive for what you get. And that's without all the Wu Flu nonsense.

If the movie is really good I'll get a second hand physical copy. Otherwise ... I'd rather sing yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.

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– SupremeReader 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

You will hardly get the theatrical experience in your home without actually huge ass screen and super fancy speaker system that you can also go loud with.

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– tobeornotto 22 points 5 years ago +22 / -0

A projector and sourround sound system is much cheaper than you imagine.

Project the image on a white wall, you don't need a projector screen, and you can easily make it hundreds of inches. And buy a cheap surround system set and good front speakers (which you probably need anyway), don't build your own it's not worth it, or if you're watching alone just use a pair of quality headphones.

Yes I know you'll get 60% of the "qulity", but you'll get 99% of the experience. Screen size is that only metric that will produce a significant wow factor - everything else your brain will stop noticing after 2 minutes.

Don't let consumer culture make you into an android - who the fuck cares if the blacks aren't completely black or the contrast isn't high enough. You're watching fucking hollywood trash in a heavily compressed format. You don't need a ivory spoon to enjoy a bowl of cereal.

For games however you need 120hz+, reasonable response time, and OLED or CRT will make a significant difference to immersion, but for movies it makes no difference to your enjoyment.

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– ThunderSizzle 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

For example, some pricing:

Projector: ARTlii HD Projector 1080P - $120 AVR: Denon AVR-S960H - $700 (probably can find a cheaper one) Front Speakers: Polk S15 front speakers - $230 Subwoofer: Polk HTS 10 - $350 Total: $1400

Average family movie theater trip cost: ~$152, including tickets/snacks/drinks. That's 9 visits before you saved enough money to justify a basic home theater.

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– Adamrises 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Average family movie theater trip cost: ~$152, including tickets/snacks/drinks

I want to agree with your point but if you guys are paying this much for movie tickets then I feel like there is a bigger issue at hand.

My local theater is 8$ a ticket for a comfy recliner and like 12$ for a huge drink/snack. Drink so big its easy to share and who buys more than one popcorn?

So unless your family is Mexican sized and its the whole 10 person clan, there is a major issue somewhere in this scenario.

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– ThunderSizzle 0 points 5 years ago +0 / -0

I pretty much agree with you, and that $152 doesn't represent myself at all because I'm too frugal. But, I'm curious how this breaks down.

Family of 4 goes to Raya and the Last Dragon for a evening viewing tonight - assuming 2 teenagers. That's $12/ticket at a nearly AMC classic, with another $13 in taxes/fees, bringing it to $60. Assume we get 2 large popcorns and 4 drinks - that's $46 + $5 in taxes/fees, bringing it to $110 or so.

Let's assume this is a really stupid family, and the teens each get a candy snack - that brings it to $120 total. Which is insane. No wonder movie theaters are dieing.

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– Adamrises 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I suppose I'm just out of touch because my local movie theater is a 3rd party (nationwide but only like 20 total across the nation) that isn't Regal/AMC and charges that flat 8$ with no additional fees or anything.

And since I regularly double duo to the movies its around 30$ for 2 tickets and enough snack/drink for us both with one of their smaller combos. And a smaller combo here is still way too much popcorn to finish and enough soda to last the movie even with my gulping obsession.

Honestly, its a more complex problem than just theater vs consumer. Hollywood demands absurd % of ticket sales (especially companies like Disney) which means the theaters make almost nothing off them. Meaning the concession is almost their entire money flow, which leads to the markup. So I can't even hold it against them, as that stranglehold of Hollywood kills any other option.

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– Oppressinator 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Projectors are back? Shit, in the early 2000's my uncle got a projector instead of a tv and it went from being the hypest thing to a bit of a mockery. What's new about em that's good?

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– nankingRoastie 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

The problem is that the'y'll soon have tracking in your electronics and will triangulate who is with you while you watch movies, and charge/fine you for unauthorized use.

You thought the Federal Crimes For Copying movies was the end of the law?

No, they will come after you if you host a movie night with friends and family, and you're caught.

Movie theaters should be small and supported by conservatives to host movies older than 2000 era. Start a retro movie business and secure unsullied copies of movies that dont have SJW deletions or conversions.

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– deleted 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0
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– ClownTamer 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I liked going to the movies before all this, but have a really, really nice home setup. All together it wasn’t that much for what it is, top of the line 7.1.2 sound system with a giant top of the line OLED for around $3-5k. Great for games, but movies honestly look better on it too. Blacks are blacker and whites are whiter. I liked the theater going experience for good movies but movies do definitively look better on my setup than in the theater. We even have super nice Dolby Digital setups at our theaters in my area, some of the best in the world, and the movie’s still going to look better on my big screen that I’m not sitting very far from and the sound is seemingly better too because you get more precision with where you’re seated and can adjust it to your liking.

Being real, pirating movies you didn’t want to pay for is also great, and you can easily make up the cost of the setup in 1-2 years depending on how many people are watching alongside you. You can pause 4 hour movies too and put on sub titles if someone watching needs it. I still support ones I’d like to support, but I can now decide after the fact, which is nice. If a movie’s going to be woke garbage then fuck them.

I’m more interested in games at this point anyway. I don’t dislike movies but most movies now are focusing on things that even bad games do better. I can’t take movie action sequences seriously anymore because it’s a bunch of shitty jump cuts and nonsense that’s trying to be a video game while failing at it. Deep, character driven stories are great in film form. Most action movies now are like shitty video game trailers that go on for 3 hours. Any time I see movie action sequences in most films over the past 5 years now I almost roll my eyes and wonder what the point of it all is.

The new Justice League wasn’t all bad but it opened with all these big massive battles scenes that I flat out didn’t give a shit about and was not impressed by. Movies now focus on all the wrong things. They were better before politics and special effects when you had to try hard to tell a compelling story with relevant and wonderful characters played by great actors. A lot of actors now, especially younger ones, almost look like they’re just standing in front of a camera and saying random shit.

The new Godzilla vs Kong didn’t even make any sense. Just make a game.

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– MegoThor 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

The theatrical experience;

$15 ticket

$8 popcorn

$5 candy

$6 soda

People talking the whole time

No pause button

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– SupremeReader 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

12-30 zł (up to $7 for IMAX) here and that's all. (For a single person.)

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– onetruephilosoraptor 40 points 5 years ago +40 / -0

Some decent small business owners will sadly be hurt by this but in terms of reducing the rot of wokeness in society, the death of movie theaters will be useful.

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– StoicVampirePig 22 points 5 years ago +22 / -0

I've always really hated going to the pictures anyway, too many people making noise and otherwise being selfish pricks...plus I'm a lot of a hermit these days.

But cinemas are not the only casualty of this nonsense, by the end of it (no we are nowhere near it) they will be joined by the local shops, the local banks, the local anything really leaving people with the choice of Bezos or Bezos.

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– Lurker404 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

But cinemas are not the only casualty of this nonsense

What many don't realize is that retail stores aren't isolated parts of the economy. There are whole supply chains behind them that got fucked by lockdowns, too.

That's part of the reason you see inflation and empty store shelves. Supply chains got shut down and it's going to take a while to start them back up, assuming they're still there. Supermarkets around here have more and more empty shelves and they never had to close.

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– deleted 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0
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– MargarineMongoose 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

I'm not supporting local businesses that insist on vaccination or a mask for entry. I want those businesses to fail.

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– Knife-TotingRat 21 points 5 years ago +21 / -0

The price was getting out of hand, anyway. It never used to be "cheap", but the desperate changes they've made over the years have done little more than to drive prices up while really adding little to the theatre-going experience, and really, in some ways, making it worse.

Before VCRs, you went to the movies because it was basically the ONLY way to see a new movie. Television liked to show only really old movies, or really bad movies made especially for it. And you might even pay to go see it more than once while you could, because once it left the theatre, you didn't know if you'd ever see it again.

Even once VCRs and then DVDs became cheap, popular, and common, the movies were for seeing shit on a BIG screen. Star Wars (1977) ushered in a new era of big-bang special effects, that demanded a huge screen to enjoy properly (unfortunately, the cineplexing craze started about that time, too.)

Now, we've got these huge, flat sci-fi Back to the Future wall televisions with pictures better than anyone's ever seen before, and you can get some pretty good speakers to go with that, Dolby Surround and all, which you can buy with all the money you save from making your own popcorn and buying your pop by the two-four. And you can smoke all you like in your own living room, and be comfy.

So who the fuck needs theatres any more?

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– Lurker404 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

So who the fuck needs theatres any more?

3D movies maybe? Are they still a thing?

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– Knife-TotingRat 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

I have a feeling that VR equipment is going to take over that noise.

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– FreddyFingers 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

My Body is ready.

They're going to have to up their game though. I watched Tron 3d bluray in a VR game called "bigscreen" which simulates a movie theater. It's "3d" but since you're already in a 3d environment it's actually quite underwhelming.

Now if they could make movies where you feel like you're INSIDE the movie with VR. I would fucking pay money for that.

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– Knife-TotingRat 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Maybe third generation, or fourth. Depends on how quick they want to merge movies with VR, and that will depend on how popular VR gets. But my brief experience with it suggests that even current-gen VR blows all the previous attempts at 3D totally away.

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– FreddyFingers 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

It would be easier to pull off if they start with animated films. You already have the 3d data, just throw a camera in the middle and attach it to a VR headset!

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– cartoonericroberts 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

If you want it to be holographic rather than just 3d (which I assume since you do because non-holographic 3d is already trivial with VR) you either need to render in real time which means toning down the rendering requirements by a few orders of magnitude or use light fields which means much more prerendering and absolutely bonkers file sizes.

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– reidj 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

There's plenty of theaters around that can still outdo a VR headset with motion tech like D-box, which basically turns the theater into a version of a VR rides (Star Tours at Disney, Back to the Future/the Simpsons Ride at Universal).

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– ClownTamer 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I was okay with the movie membership times. $21-23ish a month for basically unlimited AMC in the nicest Dolby Digital theaters in my area. I was okay with that price. Realistically I’d see 2-5 movies a month like that but it was worth it to me. Normally 1 ticket to the nice theater is $23.

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– Adamrises 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

The price was getting out of hand, anyway.

That was only if you bought concessions. Movie tickets are cheap as shit in almost every theater I've went to.

It takes zero effort to have a drink in your pocket and eat dinner before you go, so its honestly a very inexpensive thing to partake in.

Especially since a huge amount of moviegoers are dates, where watching a movie at a theater is innocent easy sells and watching a movie at your house is shorthand for sex.

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– acp_k2win 21 points 5 years ago +21 / -0

Arcades heard chuckling from the afterlife

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– Oppressinator 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Malt shops nod in approval.

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– a_superior_man 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

Let it burn. The 80s were the peak of movie theater pizzazz. The 2000s saw some good flicks, but wokism and messaging got thicker and thicker until the movies are unbearably bad.

It notches away a bit of Hollywood’s influence. I hope it doesn’t just transfer to more home television viewing. That may be even worse

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– KekistanPM 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

Just wait until the new theater programming format begins with a message from the Democrat president followed by a two minute hate toward white males, Christians and minorities who became successful through hard work and no handouts. After that is a ninety minute propaganda feature; usually where heroic LGBTXYZs save morbidly obese families illegally crossing the border from gun-toting KKK clan members wearing Nazi armbands riding in gas-guzzling jeeps funded by the Republican party and big oil.

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– DictatorGerg 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

You basically just described the plot of the new purge

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– cccpneveragain 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

Pretty much all the reasons I haven't even thought about going to a movie. I mean I've heard Nobody is good. I might have gone to see it. Oh, but the movie theater website is full of mask rules and pictures of hand sanitizer dispensers. Nope, I've moved on from WuFlu world and I'm not going to go back, certainly not for entertainment purposes. I don't really mind though, I'm not sure movie theaters are a big loss anymore.

You're right about scared leftists. I sort of knew it a bit already that they were legitimately afraid. I mean what other reason could there be that I still see tons and tons of masks. When there's no sign on the door, no one is asking you to, and even the leftist government says it's ok, I can only conclude that these people are too afraid to take their mask off. I know some first hand that are very much afraid too.

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– Lurker404 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

I mean I've heard Nobody is good.

Oh yea that one's great. If 90s action movies and John Wick 1 had a baby it would be Nobody.

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– deleted 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0
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– acp_k2win 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

I've heard Nobody is good.

It is good, I even posted a review :) https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/12iNGllmwj/nobody-review/

But good movies/TV are endangered species. Even if a TV series starts good, like The Boys, it will eventually degenerate into wokeism sooner or later.

My anecdotal evidence is that I've consistently added content to my media library for the last 10 years. The annual storage usage added peaked at 2tb added in 2015 or so when everything become readily available in 1080. That number has been steadily decreasing since, to the point where I don't think I added 100gb in 2020.

There almost nothing being made that isn't in-your-face agenda pushing. To the point where the signal to noise ratio is bad enough that I don't bother to download anything that doesn't have low critic scores and higher audience scores.

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– FreddyFingers 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

There's also nothing interesting to watch, wokeism aside.

Used to be, at any given time, there were a small handful of movies I was interested in seeing.

These days, I scroll through Amazon's new release section and not a single one piques my interest.

Movies from the 90s that have a gimmick or fascinating hook are all but replaced with shitty rom-coms and throw-away horror flicks (oh no the door closes by itself, and look, there's a ghost! How novel!)

The only movies that still got my attention recently were the Marvel Avenger movies. And now that seems pretty well over since they're retiring the A-team.

I got HBO to try out the Snyder cut of Justice League and I can't get fuckin 10 minutes in I'm so bored by the idea. The mishandling of the DC properties were so bad I just can't even bring myself to watch anything related. That goes for the Birds movies and all.

What's left to fucking watch? I don't know. Where did good movies go? I really don't know.

This trend started well before covid, too. Friday nights used to be the night the family would sit down and pick a new release to rent. Now, it's so sparse and padded with low-budget and indie flicks, I just don't bother looking for new releases anymore.

We just watch reruns of impractical jokers now. Only thing worth a damn and it's (thank god) not woke.

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– acp_k2win 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I'm even fine with woke stories if they are well acted and written. One of my top 3 series is Black Sails which has ends up having a full on progressive fantasy plotline. But the production value is off the charts, the characters are interesting including the "diverse" characters which have flaws and aren't tokens, and the actors pour their heart into it.

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– FreddyFingers 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

If the diverse characters have flaws, then you don't have woke media on your hands, you just have normal stories.

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– LungPaoSicken 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Black Sails is pretty great. I lost momentum in the last season, because it veered into the GoT model of "Everything that happens to anyone anywhere is super bad and awful and depressing."

The keelhauling was graphic enough that I lost the will to watch much more past that.

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– Hand_Of_Node 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Believer is not too bad. But you have to be extremely picky with your choices or you're going to end up watching beastality with a negro.

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– send_it 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Even before covid and disregarding the hollywoke garbage - why would I ever want to go to a movie theater?

So I can pay 40+ bucks per person and evening to eat microwave popcorn and sit next to a sweaty guy who's chewing loudly, in front of some asshole who insists on placing his/her bare feet on the seat in front (i.e. next to my head) and be in the same room as a group of THOTs and black folk who just won't STFU and ruin the movie for everybody?

OR alternatively I can buy a decent TV (or even a beamer setup if I want to get the "real" theater experience) for the same cost as a year of going to the movies, invite some friends over and watch what ever movies we want, however we want, with as much food and booze of our own choosing as we want, take smoke breaks whenever - all that while NOT paying money to deal with the dregs of society for 3 hours.

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– FreddyFingers 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

In fairness, the popcorn is a real event.

Make it at home! 1 tbsp of Coconut oil + 1/4 tsp flavacol + 1/3 cup of popping corn.

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– yvaN_ehT_nioJ 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

I hope the movie theaters don't die out, there really is nothing like seeing one on the silver screen.

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– Fmantothemaxagain 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

I'm sure there will still be the nice places like Roadhouse Cinemas, where you can get dinner as well as see a movie, but I imagine just regular movie theaters will be relegated to city centers and places like that.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

The Cinerama in Seattle was the only theater I cared about. Quite clearly operated as a labor of love instead of as a business run by a bunch of MBAs. When Vulcan killed it after Paul Allen died, I lost any love for movie theaters I once had.

Watching both Lawrence of Arabia and 2001 the way they were intended to be watched back in the 60s was an experience I'll never forget, and unlikely to ever be duplicated.

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– Fmantothemaxagain 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

One thing I hope for is that the boom in business for Drive-in theaters continues even without the lockdown restrictions.

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– Oppressinator 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

I had a good enough time during my last two theater experiences, even though they were cape shit, to last me a life time. Going to Joker with a friend and shitposting about how we're spontaneously growing trench coats and AR15's. And bringing my mom to see Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (she's weirdly obsessed with that series, and no other capeshit.) and enjoying the strong theme of motherhood and good child rearing and stuff.

RIP to a middle aged part of American culture. But you outlasted malt shops and arcades while bringing FAR LESS to the table, so that P occasionally stands for piss.

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– SophiesBoyfriend 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

SWIM threatened to take off his 2 masks and cough covid21 over everybody watching woke movies

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– GreatAwakeCoach 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

If your main source of revenue is candy & popped corn at a 500% mark up, your you deserve to go out of business.

As someone living in the LA Metro area for 25 years, I can tell you that Hollywood is dead like I've never seen it before.

Good riddance.

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– TriumphoftheSwill 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Once they started showing commercials in front of (and in) movies while raising prices they lost me

Then the pedophilic actors thought they could tell us who to vote for?

Hollywood can go fuck itself

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– nautica 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Movie theaters are not dead, but they smell bad (I misquote Frank Zappa here). Being part of Hollywood, because my wife is Hollywood, my view is: Movie theaters will not recover. They will not die, but opera houses have not died either, but it will be a much smaller market.

Besides: Hollywood as part of mass propaganda is over. So many movies will not be produced that used to be. This is a good thing, because in a new world with people having a consciousness at higher frequencies, they will not like movies the kind we had.

The world will turn around any day, mass awakening, not good for movie theaters, who cares?

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– CZcowboy 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

I think you’re on to something here as I’ve heard from the industry that going foreword movies will barely be in theaters for a month before being straight released to streaming/blu ray compared to the original 120~ day template from before. The closest one near me even during the weekends has barely 1/3 of its parking lot filled when before they’d be packed.

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– PepesCovfefe 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I haven’t been to a movie theatre in seven years.

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– rfu12 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I don't enjoy special effects fests too much, so I don't think I will miss them. I watched Star Wars 7 in the cinemas and was disappointed. I watched Joker in the cinema - and it was good. But I rewatched it at home and I didn't feel like I missed out on anything. I enjoyed watching it privately more actually. Beyond that I don't watch live action stuff (outside of Youtube). Anime is fine on home screen, the lewder parts are always awkward in a cinema too.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Leftists are too scared to go out in public let alone sit next to some potentially unvaxxed stranger for 2 plus hours.

They'll forget about corona completely in about... 3 months.

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– tentonbudgie 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Maybe pickup sports will make a comeback. I for one will welcome our new exercise oriented overlords.

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– GhostBond 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Counterthought: With corps pushing a distopian "work from home" future of social isolation, people will be desperate for any excuse to go somewhere else for entertainment.

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