A projector and sourround sound system is much cheaper than you imagine.
Project the image on a white wall, you don't need a projector screen, and you can easily make it hundreds of inches. And buy a cheap surround system set and good front speakers (which you probably need anyway), don't build your own it's not worth it, or if you're watching alone just use a pair of quality headphones.
Yes I know you'll get 60% of the "qulity", but you'll get 99% of the experience. Screen size is that only metric that will produce a significant wow factor - everything else your brain will stop noticing after 2 minutes.
Don't let consumer culture make you into an android - who the fuck cares if the blacks aren't completely black or the contrast isn't high enough. You're watching fucking hollywood trash in a heavily compressed format. You don't need a ivory spoon to enjoy a bowl of cereal.
For games however you need 120hz+, reasonable response time, and OLED or CRT will make a significant difference to immersion, but for movies it makes no difference to your enjoyment.
Projector: ARTlii HD Projector 1080P - $120
AVR: Denon AVR-S960H - $700 (probably can find a cheaper one)
Front Speakers: Polk S15 front speakers - $230
Subwoofer: Polk HTS 10 - $350
Total: $1400
Average family movie theater trip cost: ~$152, including tickets/snacks/drinks. That's 9 visits before you saved enough money to justify a basic home theater.
Average family movie theater trip cost: ~$152, including tickets/snacks/drinks
I want to agree with your point but if you guys are paying this much for movie tickets then I feel like there is a bigger issue at hand.
My local theater is 8$ a ticket for a comfy recliner and like 12$ for a huge drink/snack. Drink so big its easy to share and who buys more than one popcorn?
So unless your family is Mexican sized and its the whole 10 person clan, there is a major issue somewhere in this scenario.
I pretty much agree with you, and that $152 doesn't represent myself at all because I'm too frugal. But, I'm curious how this breaks down.
Family of 4 goes to Raya and the Last Dragon for a evening viewing tonight - assuming 2 teenagers. That's $12/ticket at a nearly AMC classic, with another $13 in taxes/fees, bringing it to $60. Assume we get 2 large popcorns and 4 drinks - that's $46 + $5 in taxes/fees, bringing it to $110 or so.
Let's assume this is a really stupid family, and the teens each get a candy snack - that brings it to $120 total. Which is insane. No wonder movie theaters are dieing.
I suppose I'm just out of touch because my local movie theater is a 3rd party (nationwide but only like 20 total across the nation) that isn't Regal/AMC and charges that flat 8$ with no additional fees or anything.
And since I regularly double duo to the movies its around 30$ for 2 tickets and enough snack/drink for us both with one of their smaller combos. And a smaller combo here is still way too much popcorn to finish and enough soda to last the movie even with my gulping obsession.
Honestly, its a more complex problem than just theater vs consumer. Hollywood demands absurd % of ticket sales (especially companies like Disney) which means the theaters make almost nothing off them. Meaning the concession is almost their entire money flow, which leads to the markup. So I can't even hold it against them, as that stranglehold of Hollywood kills any other option.
Projectors are back? Shit, in the early 2000's my uncle got a projector instead of a tv and it went from being the hypest thing to a bit of a mockery. What's new about em that's good?
The problem is that the'y'll soon have tracking in your electronics and will triangulate who is with you while you watch movies, and charge/fine you for unauthorized use.
You thought the Federal Crimes For Copying movies was the end of the law?
No, they will come after you if you host a movie night with friends and family, and you're caught.
Movie theaters should be small and supported by conservatives to host movies older than 2000 era. Start a retro movie business and secure unsullied copies of movies that dont have SJW deletions or conversions.
I liked going to the movies before all this, but have a really, really nice home setup. All together it wasn’t that much for what it is, top of the line 7.1.2 sound system with a giant top of the line OLED for around $3-5k. Great for games, but movies honestly look better on it too. Blacks are blacker and whites are whiter. I liked the theater going experience for good movies but movies do definitively look better on my setup than in the theater. We even have super nice Dolby Digital setups at our theaters in my area, some of the best in the world, and the movie’s still going to look better on my big screen that I’m not sitting very far from and the sound is seemingly better too because you get more precision with where you’re seated and can adjust it to your liking.
Being real, pirating movies you didn’t want to pay for is also great, and you can easily make up the cost of the setup in 1-2 years depending on how many people are watching alongside you. You can pause 4 hour movies too and put on sub titles if someone watching needs it. I still support ones I’d like to support, but I can now decide after the fact, which is nice. If a movie’s going to be woke garbage then fuck them.
I’m more interested in games at this point anyway. I don’t dislike movies but most movies now are focusing on things that even bad games do better. I can’t take movie action sequences seriously anymore because it’s a bunch of shitty jump cuts and nonsense that’s trying to be a video game while failing at it. Deep, character driven stories are great in film form. Most action movies now are like shitty video game trailers that go on for 3 hours. Any time I see movie action sequences in most films over the past 5 years now I almost roll my eyes and wonder what the point of it all is.
The new Justice League wasn’t all bad but it opened with all these big massive battles scenes that I flat out didn’t give a shit about and was not impressed by. Movies now focus on all the wrong things. They were better before politics and special effects when you had to try hard to tell a compelling story with relevant and wonderful characters played by great actors. A lot of actors now, especially younger ones, almost look like they’re just standing in front of a camera and saying random shit.
The new Godzilla vs Kong didn’t even make any sense. Just make a game.
A projector and sourround sound system is much cheaper than you imagine.
Project the image on a white wall, you don't need a projector screen, and you can easily make it hundreds of inches. And buy a cheap surround system set and good front speakers (which you probably need anyway), don't build your own it's not worth it, or if you're watching alone just use a pair of quality headphones.
Yes I know you'll get 60% of the "qulity", but you'll get 99% of the experience. Screen size is that only metric that will produce a significant wow factor - everything else your brain will stop noticing after 2 minutes.
Don't let consumer culture make you into an android - who the fuck cares if the blacks aren't completely black or the contrast isn't high enough. You're watching fucking hollywood trash in a heavily compressed format. You don't need a ivory spoon to enjoy a bowl of cereal.
For games however you need 120hz+, reasonable response time, and OLED or CRT will make a significant difference to immersion, but for movies it makes no difference to your enjoyment.
For example, some pricing:
Projector: ARTlii HD Projector 1080P - $120 AVR: Denon AVR-S960H - $700 (probably can find a cheaper one) Front Speakers: Polk S15 front speakers - $230 Subwoofer: Polk HTS 10 - $350 Total: $1400
Average family movie theater trip cost: ~$152, including tickets/snacks/drinks. That's 9 visits before you saved enough money to justify a basic home theater.
I want to agree with your point but if you guys are paying this much for movie tickets then I feel like there is a bigger issue at hand.
My local theater is 8$ a ticket for a comfy recliner and like 12$ for a huge drink/snack. Drink so big its easy to share and who buys more than one popcorn?
So unless your family is Mexican sized and its the whole 10 person clan, there is a major issue somewhere in this scenario.
I pretty much agree with you, and that $152 doesn't represent myself at all because I'm too frugal. But, I'm curious how this breaks down.
Family of 4 goes to Raya and the Last Dragon for a evening viewing tonight - assuming 2 teenagers. That's $12/ticket at a nearly AMC classic, with another $13 in taxes/fees, bringing it to $60. Assume we get 2 large popcorns and 4 drinks - that's $46 + $5 in taxes/fees, bringing it to $110 or so.
Let's assume this is a really stupid family, and the teens each get a candy snack - that brings it to $120 total. Which is insane. No wonder movie theaters are dieing.
I suppose I'm just out of touch because my local movie theater is a 3rd party (nationwide but only like 20 total across the nation) that isn't Regal/AMC and charges that flat 8$ with no additional fees or anything.
And since I regularly double duo to the movies its around 30$ for 2 tickets and enough snack/drink for us both with one of their smaller combos. And a smaller combo here is still way too much popcorn to finish and enough soda to last the movie even with my gulping obsession.
Honestly, its a more complex problem than just theater vs consumer. Hollywood demands absurd % of ticket sales (especially companies like Disney) which means the theaters make almost nothing off them. Meaning the concession is almost their entire money flow, which leads to the markup. So I can't even hold it against them, as that stranglehold of Hollywood kills any other option.
Projectors are back? Shit, in the early 2000's my uncle got a projector instead of a tv and it went from being the hypest thing to a bit of a mockery. What's new about em that's good?
The problem is that the'y'll soon have tracking in your electronics and will triangulate who is with you while you watch movies, and charge/fine you for unauthorized use.
You thought the Federal Crimes For Copying movies was the end of the law?
No, they will come after you if you host a movie night with friends and family, and you're caught.
Movie theaters should be small and supported by conservatives to host movies older than 2000 era. Start a retro movie business and secure unsullied copies of movies that dont have SJW deletions or conversions.
I liked going to the movies before all this, but have a really, really nice home setup. All together it wasn’t that much for what it is, top of the line 7.1.2 sound system with a giant top of the line OLED for around $3-5k. Great for games, but movies honestly look better on it too. Blacks are blacker and whites are whiter. I liked the theater going experience for good movies but movies do definitively look better on my setup than in the theater. We even have super nice Dolby Digital setups at our theaters in my area, some of the best in the world, and the movie’s still going to look better on my big screen that I’m not sitting very far from and the sound is seemingly better too because you get more precision with where you’re seated and can adjust it to your liking.
Being real, pirating movies you didn’t want to pay for is also great, and you can easily make up the cost of the setup in 1-2 years depending on how many people are watching alongside you. You can pause 4 hour movies too and put on sub titles if someone watching needs it. I still support ones I’d like to support, but I can now decide after the fact, which is nice. If a movie’s going to be woke garbage then fuck them.
I’m more interested in games at this point anyway. I don’t dislike movies but most movies now are focusing on things that even bad games do better. I can’t take movie action sequences seriously anymore because it’s a bunch of shitty jump cuts and nonsense that’s trying to be a video game while failing at it. Deep, character driven stories are great in film form. Most action movies now are like shitty video game trailers that go on for 3 hours. Any time I see movie action sequences in most films over the past 5 years now I almost roll my eyes and wonder what the point of it all is.
The new Justice League wasn’t all bad but it opened with all these big massive battles scenes that I flat out didn’t give a shit about and was not impressed by. Movies now focus on all the wrong things. They were better before politics and special effects when you had to try hard to tell a compelling story with relevant and wonderful characters played by great actors. A lot of actors now, especially younger ones, almost look like they’re just standing in front of a camera and saying random shit.
The new Godzilla vs Kong didn’t even make any sense. Just make a game.