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It’s Official, Only Un-Vaccinated Need A Mask (archive.is)
posted 5 years ago by Ahaus667 5 years ago by Ahaus667 +48 / -0
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– Chillin_in_PNW 60 points 5 years ago +60 / -0

Oh how convenient, I identify as vaccinated.

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– TerpenoidTester 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0

No next they'll be tattooing their Vaccination ID on their bodies to show just how far down the rabbit hole they are willing to go for their overlords.

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– Hyponoeo 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

I just tell people I don't trust "Trump's Vaccine" and it shuts them up xD they never had to think before.

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– Booker 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Hahahahaha brilliant

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– current_horror 32 points 5 years ago +32 / -0

The CDC stopped counting breakthrough cases last week, and now they are claiming that these vaccines reduce infection and transmission based on...? Without that data, they literally cannot make that claim.

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– bobrobinson 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

and now they are claiming that these vaccines reduce infection and transmission based on...? Without that data, they literally cannot make that claim.

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-publication-results-landmark

Among 36,523 participants who had no evidence of existing or prior SARS-CoV-2 infection by the time of the immunizations, there were 170 cases of COVID-19 observed with onset at least 7 days after the second dose; 8 cases occurred in vaccine recipients, and 162 in placebo recipients, corresponding to 95.0% vaccine efficacy (95% credible interval [CI, 90.3, 97.6]). Among participants with and without evidence of prior SARS CoV-2 infection, there were 9 cases of COVID-19 among vaccine recipients and 169 among placebo recipients, corresponding to 94.6% vaccine efficacy (95% CI [89.9, 97.3]).

the vaccine skepticism is built on straight up lies. it costs you nothing more than 30 minutes of your life.

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– TheGreatFirewall 36 points 5 years ago +36 / -0

it costs you nothing more than 30 minutes of your life.

You forgot 10+ years of possible debilitating illnesses and infertility. Vaccines have their purpose. But when you rush them out the door to humans in less than a fucking year, it's gunna cause some rightful skepticism on the long-term effects.

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– bobrobinson 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

You forgot 10+ years of possible debilitating illnesses and infertility.

where are you getting this? im assuming pulled straight out of your ass. regular vaccines in general don't cause that, and mmr vaccines are much shorter lived than those.

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– 4gain4gain 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

They are a new technology which means that NO ONE has any real data about long term effects.

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– TheGreatFirewall 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I said "possible" debilitating illnesses and infertility. It could be that it is safe in the long run and we have our heads up our asses. It could also be damaging in the long run and fuck everyone over on those who took it. We just don't know because "long-term" requires time to pass, which there hasn't been enough for some of us to trust it.

And history has shown us that vaccines aren't always safe. So it's better to be safe than sorry. But you do you.

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– MegoThor 33 points 5 years ago +33 / -0

"Our product is absolutely, positively 100% safe and effective."

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– SR388-SAX 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

"Our product is absolutely, positively 100% safe and effective."

"We're so confident of this that we're going to hide behind legal immunity from all negative side-effects."

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– Paladin327 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

“We investegated our own product and found that it has no adverse effects whatsoever”

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– current_horror 32 points 5 years ago +32 / -0

Your counterpoint is to quote PR materials from the company that :

  1. just saw explosive profit growth on the back of these very injections

  2. famously received the largest fine in history for lying about their products

I believe vaccines have value. These aren't even vaccines.

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– BewareTheSuperman 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

Indeed they ain't.

They are a hastily-constructed fabrication, a poor facsimile of a vaccine using experimental gene therapy and sold to the public as a "return to normal", with poorly-understood side effects that may not even propagate for some time.

Greed is man's greatest foe, as much his greatest muse.

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– bobrobinson 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

ok go google literally any study about vaccine effectiveness.

and I swear to god if I see another natural """medicine""" site posted here, im gonna scream

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– Booker 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0

That's really good news. I guess we never did need 14 years to prove the safety and efficacy of all those other vaccines. Sometimes I think immediate data lacks context and accuracy over long-term retrospective analysis, but then I remember that vaccine skepticism is built on straight up lies. Thanks Bob.

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– bobrobinson 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

there is no evidence that these vaccines will cause any long term side effects.

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– Booker 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Well I'm pretty sure death is a long term side effect.

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– enevold 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

not trying to get into anything here, but read that sentence to yourself again aloud, then think about it.

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– bobrobinson 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

They bypassed the normal long term treating regimen

why do people keep repeating this/stuff like this? "untested", no, the vaccines are tested, and proven. they are emergency authorized, because there's a pandemic going around and the sooner these are available, the fewer people die.

the side effects are trivial. I had a sore spot on my arm the next day.

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– HighFrequency 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Plus in the animal trials that were started, all the animals died. So they halted the trials and buried the data.

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– ArtemisFoul 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

They did? Hahahaha what a clown show

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– current_horror 20 points 5 years ago +20 / -0

"Breakthrough case" describes any case of covid-19 infection that occurs in a person who has been fully vaccinated.

The CDC is officially using two wildly different standards for reporting covid-19 infections depending on wether or not the infected person is vaccinated or unvaccinated. This puts every claim of vaccine efficacy (with respect to preventing infection) in doubt.

The CDC have now turned around and claimed that masks are no longer necessary for vaccinated people because the vaccines prevent infection - a claim they logically cannot make given their admission that they no longer report the data that would support such a claim.

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– LesboPregnancyScare 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

they are reducing the PCR test cycles to confirm a "case" and they are only counting vaccinated cases as cases if the person ends up in the hospital or worse.

Literally what we should have been doing from the start. A "case" doesnt mean shit if there are no symptoms. Its like wearing a cast on your arm because there is a chance it is broken yet it is fully functional, doesnt hurt, doesnt move funny, or a bone isnt sticking out.

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– current_horror 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

Yes, they did admit this.

Then they stopped counting cases of infection among vaccinated people.

Then they claimed the the vaccines prevent infection.

Then they said masks aren't necessary for vaccinated people because the vaccines prevent infection.

Next up: we need vaccine passports because otherwise we can't prove who is and isn't allowed to go without a mask.

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– current_horror 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

It's more likely that they're going to shove them up our asses.

Red states tried to get out in front of this. It will be interesting to see how cucked businesses behave in those states. Likewise, how does a blue state enforce draconian vaccination measures when neighboring states do not? Especially if case and death rates are similar between both sets of states.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I remain skeptical that stores like walmart will be able to enforce vaccine passports. Especially when they have policies where they will not attempt to stop or prosecute shoplifting under certain dollar amounts. Even if the cashiers won't check you out, drop enough cash on the counter and walk out the door; and I'm pretty sure you can't be charged with shoplifting.

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– cartoonericroberts 31 points 5 years ago +31 / -0

No one needs a mask. Anyone who wants a vaccine has got one (you know if cotton masks worked which they don't).

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0

Is this one of those Star Trek-tier logic puzzles that causes people to blow a gasket from cognitive dissonance?

> Be vaccinated shitlib

> Still wear a mask "to be safe"

> People assume you aren't vaccinated, avoid you

> See guy wearing a MAGA hat and "COVID hoax" shirt but no mask

> People assume he's vaccinated, don't avoid him

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– current_horror 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

The solution to the puzzle is obvious: vaccine bracelets/passports, followed by "more convenient" implanted microchips.

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– lapalapa 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Give each individual vaccine an ID number to avoid false claims an tattoo the number on the arm.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

That will work for some industries where there are monopolies (eg. concerts, air travel). I remain skeptical walmart for example will enforce them. Is someone making minimum wage going to tell a Person of Walmart who in some cases is literally shitting on the floor that they need a vaccine passport to buy something? I doubt it.

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– KekistanPM 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

I think a lot of people will still be wearing for a while for various reasons: The media pushed the fear into their souls hard, they don't want people to think they're Republican, they don't trust the CDC...

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– current_horror 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

I don't believe this at all. I think the moment those CDC recommendations come down, everyone on the left is going to ditch their masks overnight. Remember when the CDC pivoted to recommending masks? We had instant adoption by every leftist in the country.

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– MrGiggles 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

I swear, the normies don’t even consider the “no masks needed” lie as a problem, they just say “well, they didn’t know much about it,” then they turn around and say “The senior leadership [Trump] knew how bad COVID was early on and downplayed it.”

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– MargarineMongoose 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Little gold stars for the second class citizens anyone?

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– cccpneveragain 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

So now every masker harass them as to why they haven't gotten the vaccine, right?

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– FreedomDeliveries 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

This is so hilariously un scientific.

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– alucard13mmfmj 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

So... the vaccine doesnt give you immunity. You can still get covid and pass it. Suddenly its safe? Lol.

Just magically, its safe.

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– Knife-TotingRat 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

So, how is one to know if someone without a mask isn't just walking around without a mask?

Will people have to, I dunno, wear some kind of mark somewhere to denote that they're vaxxed?

Maybe a collar with a big red tag on it might suffice.

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– CptLightning 46 points 5 years ago +46 / -0

Then don't wear it. It's that simple. I live in a blue shithole that's murdered all of its elderly and I haven't worn a mask into a store in months.

The worst that ever happens is some leftie coward might petulantly whine "where's your maaaaask". But they always do this in passing. They never actually have the balls to confront you

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– Booker 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Fauci admitted as much in an interview a few days ago - the question was raised if they're truly effective since COVID has been found to be an airborne disease. I don't recall the outlet though, sorry.

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– Megascandal 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

From my own understanding there is evidence of masks being effective in short term exposure to airborne Bacteria and Fungi based diseases.

For airborne viruses, there is no data to confirm it after 100 years of mask use in the surgery room, and plenty of people probably tried unethical experiments to confirm it and none did.

For long term exposure and using the same mask repeatedly, it won't even stop bacteria and fungi at that point.

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