It’s Official, Only Un-Vaccinated Need A Mask
(archive.is)
You're viewing a single comment thread. View all comments, or full comment thread.
Comments (60)
sorted by:
The CDC stopped counting breakthrough cases last week, and now they are claiming that these vaccines reduce infection and transmission based on...? Without that data, they literally cannot make that claim.
https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-publication-results-landmark
the vaccine skepticism is built on straight up lies. it costs you nothing more than 30 minutes of your life.
You forgot 10+ years of possible debilitating illnesses and infertility. Vaccines have their purpose. But when you rush them out the door to humans in less than a fucking year, it's gunna cause some rightful skepticism on the long-term effects.
where are you getting this? im assuming pulled straight out of your ass. regular vaccines in general don't cause that, and mmr vaccines are much shorter lived than those.
They are a new technology which means that NO ONE has any real data about long term effects.
I said "possible" debilitating illnesses and infertility. It could be that it is safe in the long run and we have our heads up our asses. It could also be damaging in the long run and fuck everyone over on those who took it. We just don't know because "long-term" requires time to pass, which there hasn't been enough for some of us to trust it.
And history has shown us that vaccines aren't always safe. So it's better to be safe than sorry. But you do you.
"Our product is absolutely, positively 100% safe and effective."
"We're so confident of this that we're going to hide behind legal immunity from all negative side-effects."
“We investegated our own product and found that it has no adverse effects whatsoever”
Your counterpoint is to quote PR materials from the company that :
just saw explosive profit growth on the back of these very injections
famously received the largest fine in history for lying about their products
I believe vaccines have value. These aren't even vaccines.
Indeed they ain't.
They are a hastily-constructed fabrication, a poor facsimile of a vaccine using experimental gene therapy and sold to the public as a "return to normal", with poorly-understood side effects that may not even propagate for some time.
Greed is man's greatest foe, as much his greatest muse.
ok go google literally any study about vaccine effectiveness.
and I swear to god if I see another natural """medicine""" site posted here, im gonna scream
That's really good news. I guess we never did need 14 years to prove the safety and efficacy of all those other vaccines. Sometimes I think immediate data lacks context and accuracy over long-term retrospective analysis, but then I remember that vaccine skepticism is built on straight up lies. Thanks Bob.
there is no evidence that these vaccines will cause any long term side effects.
Well I'm pretty sure death is a long term side effect.
not trying to get into anything here, but read that sentence to yourself again aloud, then think about it.
why do people keep repeating this/stuff like this? "untested", no, the vaccines are tested, and proven. they are emergency authorized, because there's a pandemic going around and the sooner these are available, the fewer people die.
the side effects are trivial. I had a sore spot on my arm the next day.
Plus in the animal trials that were started, all the animals died. So they halted the trials and buried the data.
They did? Hahahaha what a clown show
"Breakthrough case" describes any case of covid-19 infection that occurs in a person who has been fully vaccinated.
The CDC is officially using two wildly different standards for reporting covid-19 infections depending on wether or not the infected person is vaccinated or unvaccinated. This puts every claim of vaccine efficacy (with respect to preventing infection) in doubt.
The CDC have now turned around and claimed that masks are no longer necessary for vaccinated people because the vaccines prevent infection - a claim they logically cannot make given their admission that they no longer report the data that would support such a claim.
they are reducing the PCR test cycles to confirm a "case" and they are only counting vaccinated cases as cases if the person ends up in the hospital or worse.
Literally what we should have been doing from the start. A "case" doesnt mean shit if there are no symptoms. Its like wearing a cast on your arm because there is a chance it is broken yet it is fully functional, doesnt hurt, doesnt move funny, or a bone isnt sticking out.
Yes, they did admit this.
Then they stopped counting cases of infection among vaccinated people.
Then they claimed the the vaccines prevent infection.
Then they said masks aren't necessary for vaccinated people because the vaccines prevent infection.
Next up: we need vaccine passports because otherwise we can't prove who is and isn't allowed to go without a mask.