What I really want to know is what flipped on him with Israel. There's no way they like anything about any of this deal. If he cut them out they are going to have to respond with a vengeance right? I mean democrats plus enough MIGAcons and they've got what they need to kick him out of office.
Perhaps the people actually pulling the strings got tired of Bibi being a retarded idiot. Or it's just a 6 month break before they start bombing Iran again. Like last time.
Yeah I could totally buy the six month break. That was half of what pissed me off about this one. Don't declare, "we totally completed our mission, have set Iran back years if not decades," then run right back to the same reason for starting more war with them.
Another bombing campaign would be pointless. You're not penetrating the missile cities or killing enough leadership to topple the regime, and you'd just close the Strait of Hormuz again as well as potentially incur damages to Gulf infrastructure.
The only way they decide to go in again imo is with ground troops, either to take out their nuclear facilities or straight up invade the country. An invasion requires massive, obvious staging across the border, though. There would be no mystery about that.
Trump (and Israel) haven't touched the infrastructure like Clinton and Obama did in their wars, Serbia and Libya, eh?
That was the threat that got to this "deal". Bridges, water, power stations would destroy their internal economy, hitting the public hardest but maybe tipping them into revolution.
Destroying public infrastructure would 100% end the regime, no question about that. But that would mean Iran destroys the infrastructure of the whole Gulf as well. That's why they're not doing it.
Correct, it would harm the rest of the Gulf as well, but in the long run they'd be better off with a civilian-run Iran. I think they all know this by now.
The USA blew infrastructure up in their Serbian war under Clinton. It didn't actually help their side so they've avoided doing that since then. Even Obama's campaign in Libya didn't do that, and he's a stuttering clusterfuck who thinks he's Rommel. In fact he's Custer...
I think (((they))) thought that he'd be popular enough to keep this war going. As it stands, US soldiers are lighting their own ships on fire rather than be deployed.
He knows he is going to be impeached and removed from office within a year if he doesn't immediately change his tune is what flipped. The man can only be swayed by appealing to his ego, and there is no way to use that to get him to jump on a grenade for someone else.
Maybe some focus group’s report told him being the most obvious bestest goy for israel is making even the dumbest goyim wake up and he needs to change his act really soon.
Nobody is saying that. We're saying he should have been smart enough to know it was never going to work, especially without any international support. The goal wasn't just to stop Iran's nuclear program, it was outright regime change. When has the U.S. even been able to accomplish that in the past half-century? Who controls Vietnam today? Who controls Afghanistan today? Even in Venezuela, it's still all of Maduro's people.
This is literally what you are saying when you call him a flip flopper or TACO. You're saying that you don't want him to change his mind and instead stick with bad decisions.
Trump said no enrichment whatsoever. The original JCPOA was signed between the U.S. and the E.U and featured unprecedented, intrusive verification by the IAEA, which included continuous 24/7 monitoring and daily inspector access. Their entire energy program was an "open book" to the whole world and Trump unilaterally tore it up because he said they couldn't have ANY nuclear program whatsoever.
Satanyahoo doesn't want them to have nuclear tech and Trump did as he was told and parroted the same line. The facts are well-know at this point. Stop now before you embarrass yourself.
“Under our potential Agreement — WE WILL NOT ALLOW ANY ENRICHMENT OF URANIUM!” Trump said on his Truth Social network after the Axios news outlet said Washington’s offer would let Tehran enrich some of the nuclear fuel. Republican Trump also blamed predecessor Joe Biden for the impasse, saying the Democrat “should have stopped Iran a long time ago from ‘enriching.'”
Again, it is entirely possible for a civilian nuclear PROGRAM without the enrichment capacity to turn them into weapons.
Iran is also a signatory to the Non-Proliferation Treaty, so the rest of the world should get their thumbs out of their asses and slap sown the Mullahs for good.
You forget: under Obama the Russians offered to supply AND remove the fuel. It would have saved Iran a lot of money and gotten several Nuclear Power stations. Iran laughed and said no, of course.
So they could build N-power stations without being able to re-start a weapons program.
Same for 'ballistic missiles' which are relatively easy to build & mostly harmless without a Bomb on them.
It is unbelievably hard to make a nuke from scratch. Look how much time, effort and money Iran pumped into just making the enriched uranium. And they still don't have enough for a Bomb!
North Korea took a lot of time and made 3-4 very small nukes (with help from China) that they tested. Hard to say if they have any left over :/
Having a civilian (power) program would probably involve Russia. They previously (under Obama) offered to supply AND remove the fuel for them, saving Iran a pile of money overall. They laughed & said no, of course.
If it's so easy? Why haven't dozens of nations and even corporations done it by now? Most nations with nuclear weapons were given them by USA, Russia or China. Usually indirectly ofc.
If you have enough fissionable material and the right trigger mechanism? It's so easy! 😆 But getting those from scratch? Lolz! Do you know how HUGE the Manhattan Project was? They only had the material for 3 of the planned 4 bombs. They couldn't make another for months after. The bulk of their efforts went into making a working trigger and using 1100 Calutrons to enrich the materials.
India = A free Candu reactor from Canada that spits out highly enriched uranium as a by-product, plus triggers from America.
Pakistan = power station from Russia that shortens the enrichment cycle, plus more materials & the trigger from them too.
NK = China basically gave them everything except the final design. That would have been too blatant!
IDK where Israel got their Bombs from. South Africa helped, probably the UK too.
The sabotage of an illegal nuclear weapons program is "a bad thing" now? 🙄
Making nukes isn't hard. Refining U235 and prospecting the ore is. There is a reason so few countries had managed it even before the NNPT. Not to mention making a decent delivery mechanism, though Iran seems to have managed there.
I honestly think it could happen if he doesn't play ball. I think they've set the stage for Vance afterward -- who really would be Satanyahoo's president -- and all the MAGA shills are ready to drop their pants for him in exchange for a job and to go back to "the good ol' days" of Bush-era Neocon-ism. But I think plenty of young people are seeing that being a Republican doesn't mean what they've been told it means. Tons of young people are seeing that no matter who "wins" an election, there's always that small foreign cabal that always gets what they want.
I think he did that during the "Sumer of Love" when he refused to deploy the National Guard and let American cities burn. Democrats had organized everything to have him convicted by a stacked NYC jury before he called Miriam Adelson and "bent the knee" for Israhell. That was the deal: he'll give them the Oval Office in exchange for his freedom.
Adelson called off his political "execution" in exchange for war on Iran. That's absolutely what happened. How else did the charges just go up in smoke? It was a rigged trial with a stacked jury in a deep blue jurisdiction. They actually amended, wrote and passed new laws in Albany just to prosecute Trump. They had everything they needed after years of planning the outcome.
... but both sides work for Israhell and Trump bent the knee.
With all redistricting and the fact dems have done nothing to GAIN voters other than go 'orange man bad', they could still not have the numbers to take anything.
Now you can argue neocons and RINOs joining to impeach Trump, but they don't have the numbers with Democrats to follow through and the cost of doing so is too big
Democrats haven't had to gain any voters. Epstein and Iran have run off enough Republican voters that they will be just fine. And they were on the brink of total collapse after the 2024 election. All they had to do to dominate the upcoming midterms was nothing at all. They will have the numbers to do it after then.
You mean like the Dems have been doing for 10+ years now? 😋
Did the mayoral "vote" in LA escape your notice? The result after election day is impossible without cheating. Not even "one in a million" it's literally impossible. Same for the 120K votes for Biden "found overnight" eh?
Other LA returns saw big numbers for the 2 Dems and zero for the Repub. Not "a few" he got zero, 0.0, which again is impossible but oh well!
Epstein files was the most important thing to get rid of part of the tiny hats influence.. how many politicians, ceos, and etc are blackmailed for doing pedo stuff..
So far.. none of the pedos got sent to prison. Only one that got a stern talking to was prince andrew.
Some common sense. Better late than never. He also pointed out that it's bizarre to try to deny Iran ballistic missiles, and that it's their own damn money the neocons think they own.
Mossad controls Iran through puppets who agreed to send their bioweapons to other counties as rapefugees to accelerate the kalergi whilst speedrunning its nuclear program to then bomb a country or two for fun to get all teh blame for it and get bombed for oblivion.
Them having a peaceful program to make power was always "on the table". Russia would supply the fuel & also take back ALL the waste too.
Iran laughed about that deal, even though it gave them several nuclear power stations. They never intended to use it for power.
Russia would supply the fuel & also take back ALL the waste too.
Trump/ Israhell REJECTED that offer on it's face because they were intent on killing Iranians and confident they could flip the regime. They rejected it the same day it was proposed because the goal was always to kill Iranians and destroy their country.
Iran laughed about that deal ...
Another LIE. Iran welcomed the deal. Iranian negotiators were willing to send their uranium to Russia as a compromise, since they're close trade partners and BRIC members. It was Trump/ Israhell that blocked the transfer to Russia.
I know your content. You're a fuck jew, so slither back to the The_Zognald were you belong, you lying serpent!
Why would Trump "reject" a deal that was made by Obama when Obama was PotUS? He wasn't even in politics back then. That was supposed to be part of "The Obama Agreement" that gave Iran billions and guaranteed they'd get a nuclear weapon even if they had followed the terms. But they didn't.
NOW Iran wants to send their illegally (under the NPT which Iran signed & their Obama Agreement) enriched uranium to Russia for storage. Of course they do! They know they'll get it all back eventually. Trump rightfully said no to that, lolz!
Go suck Antonio's tiny cock, lolz! I'm a Jew? Says who? YOU? Retard.
What I really want to know is what flipped on him with Israel. There's no way they like anything about any of this deal. If he cut them out they are going to have to respond with a vengeance right? I mean democrats plus enough MIGAcons and they've got what they need to kick him out of office.
Perhaps the people actually pulling the strings got tired of Bibi being a retarded idiot. Or it's just a 6 month break before they start bombing Iran again. Like last time.
Yeah I could totally buy the six month break. That was half of what pissed me off about this one. Don't declare, "we totally completed our mission, have set Iran back years if not decades," then run right back to the same reason for starting more war with them.
Another bombing campaign would be pointless. You're not penetrating the missile cities or killing enough leadership to topple the regime, and you'd just close the Strait of Hormuz again as well as potentially incur damages to Gulf infrastructure.
The only way they decide to go in again imo is with ground troops, either to take out their nuclear facilities or straight up invade the country. An invasion requires massive, obvious staging across the border, though. There would be no mystery about that.
Trump (and Israel) haven't touched the infrastructure like Clinton and Obama did in their wars, Serbia and Libya, eh?
That was the threat that got to this "deal". Bridges, water, power stations would destroy their internal economy, hitting the public hardest but maybe tipping them into revolution.
Destroying public infrastructure would 100% end the regime, no question about that. But that would mean Iran destroys the infrastructure of the whole Gulf as well. That's why they're not doing it.
Dude, u/5Cats is a lying zionist kike with murder in their black heart.
The jews are a cursed people who only know trickery, thievery and murder.
I know 5cats is a zionist, but ease up on the rhetoric against other users
Correct, it would harm the rest of the Gulf as well, but in the long run they'd be better off with a civilian-run Iran. I think they all know this by now.
The USA blew infrastructure up in their Serbian war under Clinton. It didn't actually help their side so they've avoided doing that since then. Even Obama's campaign in Libya didn't do that, and he's a stuttering clusterfuck who thinks he's Rommel. In fact he's Custer...
I mean Netanyahu has almost singlehandedly united the world against Israel in less than a generation
6 month break theory is sound logic
ZOG needs to rearm
I think (((they))) thought that he'd be popular enough to keep this war going. As it stands, US soldiers are lighting their own ships on fire rather than be deployed.
And clogging the toilets.
I'd wager the "fires" are Pentagon code for missile hits. Same with all the "training accidents".
Wait, did that actually happen?
He knows he is going to be impeached and removed from office within a year if he doesn't immediately change his tune is what flipped. The man can only be swayed by appealing to his ego, and there is no way to use that to get him to jump on a grenade for someone else.
Maybe some focus group’s report told him being the most obvious bestest goy for israel is making even the dumbest goyim wake up and he needs to change his act really soon.
It’s all fake.
Why do you think they insisted on him taking a "Never Trumper" like Vance with him?
Vance is their insurance policy if Trump ever went off-script.
Too late to pry your lips off Bibi's diseased yid cock now Donny.
Trump is the biggest flip-flopper in American history.
Indeed, he's reversed course on everything he was ranting about when this shit show started AND now we have to pay 300 billion.
So... do you want him to continue in an unwinnable war? Sunk cost fallacy into another 20 year quagmire?
He shouldn’t have fucking started it in the first place like the kikeslave he is
Ok but hypothetically if we didn't have a time machine, what would your preferred outcome be?
Execute him for high treason
Nobody is saying that. We're saying he should have been smart enough to know it was never going to work, especially without any international support. The goal wasn't just to stop Iran's nuclear program, it was outright regime change. When has the U.S. even been able to accomplish that in the past half-century? Who controls Vietnam today? Who controls Afghanistan today? Even in Venezuela, it's still all of Maduro's people.
Trump wants to talk about "common sense" now?
>Nobody is saying that
This is literally what you are saying when you call him a flip flopper or TACO. You're saying that you don't want him to change his mind and instead stick with bad decisions.
If you're going to bomb a country into stone age then actually do it
Nuclear energy program.
What dishonest reporting to not include that word.
Sure it'll be easier to make nukes with more civilian nuclear engineers, but it's not that hard anyway.
Well, after years of saying they couldn't have any nuclear program, it's a legit headline.
And obviously they say as much in the first paragraph.
No, they did it because they're partisan hacks not because it's legitimate.
I've never heard Trump say they couldn't have a nuclear energy program, only nuclear weapons.
Trump said no enrichment whatsoever. The original JCPOA was signed between the U.S. and the E.U and featured unprecedented, intrusive verification by the IAEA, which included continuous 24/7 monitoring and daily inspector access. Their entire energy program was an "open book" to the whole world and Trump unilaterally tore it up because he said they couldn't have ANY nuclear program whatsoever.
Satanyahoo doesn't want them to have nuclear tech and Trump did as he was told and parroted the same line. The facts are well-know at this point. Stop now before you embarrass yourself.
Let him keep going. Watching these braindead cultists flail around is mildly amusing.
You refuse to admit misleading headline is misleading. "Stop now before you embarrass yourself."
If you want to argue some point about the Obama nuclear deal re Trump go ahead, but it's irrelevant.
Trump says Iran deal would not allow ‘any’ uranium enrichment ~ June 03, 2025
... I warned you! 🙄
/golfclap
Again, it is entirely possible for a civilian nuclear PROGRAM without the enrichment capacity to turn them into weapons.
Iran is also a signatory to the Non-Proliferation Treaty, so the rest of the world should get their thumbs out of their asses and slap sown the Mullahs for good.
How about we hang Satanyahoo first for the murder of millions of civilians, you lying kike?
You forget: under Obama the Russians offered to supply AND remove the fuel. It would have saved Iran a lot of money and gotten several Nuclear Power stations. Iran laughed and said no, of course.
So they could build N-power stations without being able to re-start a weapons program.
Same for 'ballistic missiles' which are relatively easy to build & mostly harmless without a Bomb on them.
No, you forget that I know you're a lying jew. I know who you are; I remember your content.
Slither back to The_Zognald, you lying jew!
FoxNews is speaking everyone.
FoxJews
Yes, they're partisan hacks.
That doesn't mean that you can't also be wrong.
Could be, but not. A college kid did it in the 70s.
Before your time I guess.
The only hard part is doing it without the Five Eyes and Mossad seeing you.
Nah Trump has been saying for decades that Iran cant have any nuclear at all
It is unbelievably hard to make a nuke from scratch. Look how much time, effort and money Iran pumped into just making the enriched uranium. And they still don't have enough for a Bomb!
North Korea took a lot of time and made 3-4 very small nukes (with help from China) that they tested. Hard to say if they have any left over :/
Having a civilian (power) program would probably involve Russia. They previously (under Obama) offered to supply AND remove the fuel for them, saving Iran a pile of money overall. They laughed & said no, of course.
It's only hard when you have nation-states sabotaging your equipment, as I alluded to.
As you said, some rice farmers in NK did it.
Where do you get this weird idea that it's difficult? Hollywood?
If it's so easy? Why haven't dozens of nations and even corporations done it by now? Most nations with nuclear weapons were given them by USA, Russia or China. Usually indirectly ofc.
If you have enough fissionable material and the right trigger mechanism? It's so easy! 😆 But getting those from scratch? Lolz! Do you know how HUGE the Manhattan Project was? They only had the material for 3 of the planned 4 bombs. They couldn't make another for months after. The bulk of their efforts went into making a working trigger and using 1100 Calutrons to enrich the materials.
India = A free Candu reactor from Canada that spits out highly enriched uranium as a by-product, plus triggers from America.
Pakistan = power station from Russia that shortens the enrichment cycle, plus more materials & the trigger from them too.
NK = China basically gave them everything except the final design. That would have been too blatant!
IDK where Israel got their Bombs from. South Africa helped, probably the UK too.
The sabotage of an illegal nuclear weapons program is "a bad thing" now? 🙄
Making nukes isn't hard. Refining U235 and prospecting the ore is. There is a reason so few countries had managed it even before the NNPT. Not to mention making a decent delivery mechanism, though Iran seems to have managed there.
You are still gonna get impeached, Donald boy. Nothing will change that now.
I honestly think it could happen if he doesn't play ball. I think they've set the stage for Vance afterward -- who really would be Satanyahoo's president -- and all the MAGA shills are ready to drop their pants for him in exchange for a job and to go back to "the good ol' days" of Bush-era Neocon-ism. But I think plenty of young people are seeing that being a Republican doesn't mean what they've been told it means. Tons of young people are seeing that no matter who "wins" an election, there's always that small foreign cabal that always gets what they want.
Vote red, vote blue, either way you get the jew. 🦨💨🇮🇱
Then he has really painted himself into a corner with no allies to watch his back. Serves him right. I hope they hang him.
I think he did that during the "Sumer of Love" when he refused to deploy the National Guard and let American cities burn. Democrats had organized everything to have him convicted by a stacked NYC jury before he called Miriam Adelson and "bent the knee" for Israhell. That was the deal: he'll give them the Oval Office in exchange for his freedom.
Adelson called off his political "execution" in exchange for war on Iran. That's absolutely what happened. How else did the charges just go up in smoke? It was a rigged trial with a stacked jury in a deep blue jurisdiction. They actually amended, wrote and passed new laws in Albany just to prosecute Trump. They had everything they needed after years of planning the outcome.
... but both sides work for Israhell and Trump bent the knee.
At this point, maybe not?
With all redistricting and the fact dems have done nothing to GAIN voters other than go 'orange man bad', they could still not have the numbers to take anything.
Now you can argue neocons and RINOs joining to impeach Trump, but they don't have the numbers with Democrats to follow through and the cost of doing so is too big
Democrats haven't had to gain any voters. Epstein and Iran have run off enough Republican voters that they will be just fine. And they were on the brink of total collapse after the 2024 election. All they had to do to dominate the upcoming midterms was nothing at all. They will have the numbers to do it after then.
They can just print voters.
You mean like the Dems have been doing for 10+ years now? 😋
Did the mayoral "vote" in LA escape your notice? The result after election day is impossible without cheating. Not even "one in a million" it's literally impossible. Same for the 120K votes for Biden "found overnight" eh?
Other LA returns saw big numbers for the 2 Dems and zero for the Repub. Not "a few" he got zero, 0.0, which again is impossible but oh well!
Most raped man alive.
Anyway, I support ICBMs being aimed at Tel Aviv no matter who holds the button. Maybe they'll finally behave.
The only way there will be anything even remotely resembling peace in the middle east is if pissrael no longer holds a monopoly on nukes.
WTF is going on here? Can we just worry about the US?
Cool it with the antisemitism Adolf.
Lol. I hope thats sarcasm.
It is fren. 👍
Epstein files was the most important thing to get rid of part of the tiny hats influence.. how many politicians, ceos, and etc are blackmailed for doing pedo stuff..
So far.. none of the pedos got sent to prison. Only one that got a stern talking to was prince andrew.
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHA yeah we lost
Well, Israhell lost. "We" were just the Shabbos goys doing their dirty work ... but yeah.
Some common sense. Better late than never. He also pointed out that it's bizarre to try to deny Iran ballistic missiles, and that it's their own damn money the neocons think they own.
Mossad controls Iran through puppets who agreed to send their bioweapons to other counties as rapefugees to accelerate the kalergi whilst speedrunning its nuclear program to then bomb a country or two for fun to get all teh blame for it and get bombed for oblivion.
Probably not but would be funny.
What are you going to do about it?
Sit here and type?
Mm-hmm.
What are you going to do about it?
Also sit here and type?
Mm-hmm.
Why would I?
I know it's going to work out.
You don't think so.
YOU do something about it.
The Left does.
Trust the Kracken, release the plan... 3,689,745D chess!
Then do something about it, lazy-bones.
Good idea! I'll tweet in impotent rage like Trump.
it'd be nice if true.
Them having a peaceful program to make power was always "on the table". Russia would supply the fuel & also take back ALL the waste too.
Iran laughed about that deal, even though it gave them several nuclear power stations. They never intended to use it for power.
Trump/ Israhell REJECTED that offer on it's face because they were intent on killing Iranians and confident they could flip the regime. They rejected it the same day it was proposed because the goal was always to kill Iranians and destroy their country.
Another LIE. Iran welcomed the deal. Iranian negotiators were willing to send their uranium to Russia as a compromise, since they're close trade partners and BRIC members. It was Trump/ Israhell that blocked the transfer to Russia.
I know your content. You're a fuck jew, so slither back to the The_Zognald were you belong, you lying serpent!
Why would Trump "reject" a deal that was made by Obama when Obama was PotUS? He wasn't even in politics back then. That was supposed to be part of "The Obama Agreement" that gave Iran billions and guaranteed they'd get a nuclear weapon even if they had followed the terms. But they didn't.
NOW Iran wants to send their illegally (under the NPT which Iran signed & their Obama Agreement) enriched uranium to Russia for storage. Of course they do! They know they'll get it all back eventually. Trump rightfully said no to that, lolz!
Go suck Antonio's tiny cock, lolz! I'm a Jew? Says who? YOU? Retard.