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After Months of War, Trump Says Iran Has Right to Nuclear Program; "You have to use a little common sense" (newrepublic.com)
posted 25 days ago by Prof_Chaos 25 days ago by Prof_Chaos +44 / -0
After Months of War, Trump Says Iran Has Right to Nuclear Program
Trump now says it’s just “common sense” for Iran to have a nuclear program.
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– fauxgnaws 3 points 25 days ago +3 / -0

It's only hard when you have nation-states sabotaging your equipment, as I alluded to.

As you said, some rice farmers in NK did it.

Where do you get this weird idea that it's difficult? Hollywood?

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– 5Cats 1 point 24 days ago +1 / -0

If it's so easy? Why haven't dozens of nations and even corporations done it by now? Most nations with nuclear weapons were given them by USA, Russia or China. Usually indirectly ofc.

If you have enough fissionable material and the right trigger mechanism? It's so easy! 😆 But getting those from scratch? Lolz! Do you know how HUGE the Manhattan Project was? They only had the material for 3 of the planned 4 bombs. They couldn't make another for months after. The bulk of their efforts went into making a working trigger and using 1100 Calutrons to enrich the materials.

India = A free Candu reactor from Canada that spits out highly enriched uranium as a by-product, plus triggers from America.
Pakistan = power station from Russia that shortens the enrichment cycle, plus more materials & the trigger from them too.
NK = China basically gave them everything except the final design. That would have been too blatant!

IDK where Israel got their Bombs from. South Africa helped, probably the UK too.

The sabotage of an illegal nuclear weapons program is "a bad thing" now? 🙄

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– fauxgnaws 2 points 23 days ago +2 / -0

The Manhattan Project had slide-rules for calculators and were inventing something new. Their "computers" were people.

The Iranians had modern centrifuges and control systems and designs known to work.

It's not at all comparable, it's laughable.

Lots of other countries haven't done it because they don't want to get bombed by America and don't feel under direct threat, not because it's hard to do. Duh.

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– 5Cats 1 point 21 days ago +1 / -0

So all those billions spent, 10s of them at a minimum, maybe 100s. All those decades passing, all those research & production sites... Iran has 0.0 bombs to show for it. Because 🎵 it's so easy to build a bomb! 🎵

Again: it's easy to put the pieces together. It's hard to build them from scratch.

The Manhattan bombs were relatively simple. They used a lot of material to hit critical mass. Modern bombs are far more technical and use way less material so they can be shot into space & stuff. Refining all that material is a physical challenge: one has no choice but to use brute force & lots of time when starting with Yellowcake.

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– fauxgnaws 1 point 21 days ago +1 / -0

This is retarded liberal 'logic', starting with your conclusion and then grasping at straws to 'prove' it. Effect therefore cause.

In their case they say 90% of arrests are black therefore discrimination. In your case you say no bombs so it must be hard to do. It might be discrimination, it might be hard, but that's not how this works.

But liberals are actually smarter because in their case they know the stat, but you don't even know whether Iran has a bomb or how much material they have; they might have ten bombs or enough enriched for fifty - all we know is they haven't detonated a bomb because that's nearly impossible to hide from seismic sensors and would become public. So you're basing your (false) belief about it being hard on another belief not evidence.

Think about how retarded that logic is, you could just as well say high speed rail is extremely hard because CA is spending hundreds of billions and only have like a mile done - hard for CA, not hard for China. It's not the thing itself that's difficult.

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