I expect an apology from every single Trump sycophant (which I'll most likely never get). I pointed out the fact, many times, that it would be impossible for someone like Trump, a billionaire real estate mogul, to repeatedly make "bad" choices for his cabinet picks, unless it was by intention to undercut his campaign promises, and the only conceivable possibilities are that Trump is on the list, or he's defending people on the list, both of which means that Trump is corrupt and actively covering up a massive crime ring involved with human trafficking, child rape, torture, and murder.
The argument "if Trump was on the list it would've been released" assumes that Trump is genuine, not corrupt, and not playing a part as a false savior to placate the dissident right.
This is an either/or issue. Either you (government official) prosecute that crime ring and everyone on it, and nuke it from orbit to stop it entirely, or you're an enemy of the people. There is zero middle ground, and it's well beyond time that everyone realizes it.
I will apologize for them. Trump and his administration have been a huge disappointment lately. If he isn't completely owned by Israel, he sure isn't doing anything to show it.
I'm not a trump fan but I will say at least the deportation talk has gotten the local illegals to start acting better. They haven't blasted music until 2am lately.
Uh huh. Sure. Yeah. Okay. Billionaires = impotent! I guess, relative to trillionaire bankers, sure, billionaires are "impotent" by comparison. I guess all that lobbying of Congress and politicians by multi millionaires and billionaires just doesn't happen, and they're completely powerless in society.
Bondi's from Florida. She's a compromise with Ron and his people. I thought this was obvious.
Are you so into the Trump derangement syndrome (the other side of it) that you're afraid of admitting to yourself that you were wrong, and will conjure all manner of excuse to cover for that mistake? You have free will. You're not a machine. If you make a mistake, you can admit it, move on, and stop making that mistake.
How many bad picks does Trump have to make for you to get it? How many bad AGs has Trump appointed? All of them. How many pro Israel/jew picks has Trump made? All of them. It's a repeated pattern of behavior.
Let me spell it out for you really simply. Trump is a billionaire real estate mogul. That would mean he'd get all manner of leeches and fake friends, who only get close to him so they can get a share of his wealth, or get sweet heart deals for easy money. If Trump was a genuinely good person, he would've learned to spot the warning signs of such leeches and disingenuous people really quickly. Even normal guys learn really quickly to protect themselves when their "friends" backstab them. Trump, a billionaire, would (should) have his guard up a lot more to protect himself from these people, and would be able to spot them even moreso than the average guy. So, why then does Trump repeatedly pick people who constantly undermine and sabotage his campaign promises? That's not indicative of genuine behavior, or even incompetence. If the pattern of behavior always points toward one outcome, especially with regard to specific beliefs, then it's intentional.
Which list? The sex trafficking list or the money laundering list?
I guess it's easier to obfuscate an extremely clear issue than admit to being wrong.
The details you've ignored are far more important than the ones you've admitted. It seems like you want it to be an either or issue. Why?
So...when it comes to abducting, trafficking, raping, torturing, and murdering kids, helping to cover it up, and not punishing anyone responsible, you're arguing there's a grey area? Please, enlighten us to this "grey" area on that subject.
No, I said "real estate billionaires." Thank you for demonstrating your lack of honesty or capability to manage arguments. As if the wall of text wasn't a hint.
The problem with real estate and with real estate companies is they are extremely vulnerable to lawfare. Not that this ever happened to Trump. And not that it pushed him into the arms of isreali donors.
Let me spell it out for you: You're dishonest and stupid.
The problem with real estate and with real estate companies is they are extremely vulnerable to lawfare.
And? Guess he needs to decide if he wants to be a real estate mogul or the President of the United States.
And not that it pushed him into the arms of isreali donors.
Poor Trump. He's got no choice but to fuck his supporters in the ass. But fortunately despite how bloody their assholes get they don't realize they're getting fucked in the ass.
Thank you for more gaslighting and logical fallacies.
I'll ask the pertinent question, again. I want a direct answer, and everyone here deserves to be enlightened by your mountainous intellect:
When it comes to abducting, trafficking, raping, torturing, and murdering kids, helping to cover it up, and not punishing anyone responsible, you're arguing there's a grey area? What is this "grey" area?
You neither deserve one nor should expect one. You're dishonest and stupid. Why would I waste my time? You don't read, you don't listen, you just badger. Get fucked.
you're arguing there's a grey area?
No where did I do that. You can't win arguments so this is what you do? You dissembling loser. Thank you for reminding me I should have just blocked you. You're too retarded to be able to handle basic conversation.
You use words like "gaslighting" because that's all you know how to do. So you assume everyone else does. You are in fact very stupid.
Thank you for confirming that you still support Trump, after he's proven to be an active enabler and defender of pedophiles, human traffickers, and murderers, and that you too are a supporter of such politicians.
It's moreso for being maligned by the Trump sycophants for trying to open their eyes and break them out of the spell, so they're no longer fooled by false saviors.
You think everyone is stupid but you or something?
If people still support Trump, then yes they're stupid.
Yea but you were just guessing and they knew that.
To a certain degree, I suppose. Reality doesn't come to us in notarized government documents with 10,000 authorities in lab coats testifying to it. We have to figure it out on our own, so there will always be some level of "guessing", because we can't be 100% sure on things outside of fundamental truths (like math and logic).
When things don't make sense, we have to theorize different possibilities, and judge the merits of those possibilities based on future events, which will prove or disprove the theories, if those theories predicted those future events. When people's words don't match their actions, when a politician's actions in office don't match their campaign promises, you have to pay attention to what they do, not what they say, to determine who they really are. If a pattern repeats continually, that's a really good indicator for truth, even if someone is lying to you about it, claiming it isn't true (like crime statistics and racial disparities).
So, yes, I was "guessing", but it was a really well informed guess that keeps being proven right, matches Trump's behaviors perfectly, matches his cabinet picks perfectly, and matches the repeated pattern of behavior and results.
I pointed out the fact, many times, that it would be impossible for someone like Trump, a billionaire real estate mogul, to repeatedly make "bad" choices for his cabinet picks, unless it was by intention to undercut his campaign promises, and the only conceivable possibilities are that Trump is on the list, or he's defending people on the list, both of which means that Trump is corrupt and actively covering up a massive crime ring involved with human trafficking, child rape, torture, and murder.
The argument "if Trump was on the list it would've been released" assumes that Trump is genuine, not corrupt, and not playing a part as a false savior to placate the dissident right.
How would it be impossible for him to have "bad" picks?
And how does the assassination attempt fit into this?
By "bad" picks, I mean that Trump 100% of the time (or nearly so) picks people who don't enact his campaign promises, who actively sabotage those campaign promises. This gives him plausible deniability with his more gullible supporters who are blinded by cult hero worship. Those "bad" picks are entirely intentional, which is why the pattern of behavior and results align 100% (or nearly so). Campaign promises like "lock her up", draining the swamp, which necessarily requires prosecuting criminals and traitors, building the wall, deporting illegals, no more foreign wars, no more foreign aid, stopping weapons to Ukraine, fixing voting, releasing the Epstein list and evidence, these are all campaign promises that Trump has reneged on, and not just a little bit, but sometimes in complete antithesis to the campaign promise.
As for the assassination attempt, there's still the very real possibilities that it was faked (the part where Trump's ear was grazed) or that it was a competing group in globohomo who tried to kill him.
Trump participated in pro wrestling, which often uses sly ways to produce cuts and injuries. It wouldn't be difficult for Trump, or one of his secret service to do that, while an actual shooter hit people around him. The supposed assassin was 200 yards away. I, and many of my friends and family, have shot at 200 yards. Even with 1x scopes, it's quite easy and repeatable to get head shots at 200 yards. If this event was staged, with the supposed assassin as a patsy, while the real shooters killed and injured people in the audience, then we can assume that they hit their intended targets. Dedicated snipers can hit very specific and small targets really, really easily at 200 yards, and much further out depending on gear.
People make the mistake that globohomo is monolithic and unfractured. It's simply not true. These are the kinds of people who hold every anti-virtue possible. They're violent, vengeful, fracturing, and greedy by their very nature. They have disparate plans and ways to go about their agreed upon plans (like the Kalergi plan). They disagree with each other all the time, it's just not advertised in the news. So, it's entirely conceivable that one faction who didn't want Trump tried to assassinate him, while a different faction was supporting him. The campaign contributions to Trump supports the latter position, and the virulent anti-Trump hatred among many leaders supports the former.
Is that hatred of Trump by the people in power purely theater, for our sakes, to keep the false political dichotomy going? Was the assassination staged or real? Was Trump in on it? We don't have enough information to definitively say one way or another, and given the amount of false flags perpetrated by our own government over decades, it would be incredibly foolish to believe the official story. Always entertain plausible alternatives, especially when it comes to politicians being corrupt, screwing us over, and lying.
What I can say, based on the evidence at hand, is that Trump has reneged on all of his most important campaign promises. Trump is a false savior, meant to placate the dissident right while globohomo progresses for another 4 years, while we "trust the plan" and do nothing to stop it. False saviors are another control mechanism to get political dissidents, who escaped the false dichotomy of politics (the controlled mainstream left and right), to condense support onto that false savior, who then shepherds those political dissidents back into the false dichotomy fold. Trump did this, explicitly, by working through the extremely corrupt Republican party, and working with those corrupt Republicans, while attacking and threatening to primary the very few Republicans who aren't (or less) corrupt. Trump is also a staunch zionist, and all of his cabinet picks are zionists, who instead of pushing his campaign promises, the very first things they did and pursue are punishing antisemitism. You can't be America First and be a zionist, be pro jew, or punish antisemitism (desecrating the 1st Amendment and Christian doctrine). These are extremely good indicators for who Trump actually is.
Don't listen to what people say. Pay attention to what they do, because that is who they really are. This is even more important in politics.
Seriously though, I still want to believe there is some kind of secret infiltration op going and that's why they've suddenly gone dark on this. Throw the enemy off until the last minute and then you pounce and bring everyone down at the same time. This is not only from me liking Trump, but from actions of the other players involved too. For example Bongino's recent statements before this been that there's a lot more going on than we know, and we can't talk about it yet. Also she's probably just another influencer who heard what she wanted to hear from an "inside source", but Megyn Kelly did this weird segment last year where she said "We're not done with Jeffrey Epstein... We're going to hear a lot more about Jeffrey Epstein in the coming year - and you may be hearing from him 'directly' - more on that as I'm allowed to tell you."
Wtf does that mean???
But I don't really believe all that, any more than I believe in UFO/UAP conspiracies. I'm not holding my breath or anything, and I'm not going to try to convince anyone IT'S HAPPENING. Whatever. He's got 3 years. Happy to see Trump's fans ain't having it either and aren't going to let it go. This time we won't accept any "well he tried but the swamp was too deep" or "he made bad picks" excuses.
Epstein is like a 95-5 issue. I don't think I've ever met anyone who legitimately believes he killed himself. Many leftoids were happy to be quiet about it for years while Biden was in power, but now that it's Trump in power they will absolutely be loud about it.
And if Trump thinks his supporters will be quiet about it, he is sorely mistaken. The concept of the world being ruled by a cabal of elite pedophiles is a notion many on the right have had before Trump even came on the scene. People won't stop believing that, especially under such sketchy circumstances, at this point.
That all being said, the way this has all gone down is very curious to me. If they had truly planned to cover it up all along, I don't think they would have made a fuss about the fact that they would release it. And I don't think Bondi would have said things like "the list is on my desk" and "there are 10s of thousands of hours of footage of children being abused." Seems way too uncoordinated for it to have been the plan to cover it up from the start.
Makes me wonder if they were legitimately clueless and ignorant to the nature of the Epstein operation and then got approached by Mossad like "don't blow our cover or X, Y, and Z will happen." Indeed, videos have surfaced of Kash and Bongino doing the standard Israel dick sucking routine, so it would make sense.
Just a shit sandwich all around, and supports the notion that there may be no political solution to this, or that if there is, much more control is needed to enact it. Also does more to show that our so-called greatest ally is anything but, but the people who still live in that fantasy land would never believe the obvious fact that Epstein was connected to Mossad anyway.
That all being said, the way this has all gone down is very curious to me. If they had truly planned to cover it up all along, I don't think they would have made a fuss about the fact that they would release it.
This is the only part that makes the "coverup" seem less done and dusted as it would otherwise be. They keep bringing it up, long after people have given up hope and just moved on and doing so in a way that is so absolutely bad that they have to know it will make people talk about it more.
So that's the new question, what is the actual angle being played? If it was just a mere bury it to protect the people involved, they had already done that and most people had let it fall off the main wagon. So why keep doing this kind of play? If its a simple humiliation ritual, its way too close to the sun.
I don't think I've ever met anyone who legitimately believes he killed himself.
I think it's plausible, if he believed he wasn't going to get the same kid gloves treatment as last time. It's not even incompatible with him being silenced - the most plausibly deniable way of killing a prisoner would be to convince him that you're going to throw him to the wolves so that suicide looks like the easy way out.
The Deep State isn't like a cancer on the system that you can remove to improve everything, it is the system. And the system protects itself.
Trump isn't the wrecking ball everyone hoped he would be. But he was never going to actually destroy the system by working with it to make a deal or whatever he does.
Welp, I was optimistic, but still didn't expect it to ever be released. That is, if any of the documents even exist any more. They're almost certainly squirreled away and in the hands of the next blackmail gathering op.
That said, nobody else would have ever released it either so it's not worse than any alternatives.
In the miraculous event that we had gotten Matt Gaetz, some men in sunglasses would have shown up with pictures of his family and their homes and say, "sure would be terrible if something happened to these people" and he'd be singing the same tune as Bongino and Patel now.
All we can really hope for at this point is some meaningful FBI reform. Which we also probably won't get.
That is, if any of the documents even exist any more.
If they even existed in the first place. If I were Mossad, I would have been shredding those things the second Epstein got in trouble with the law. I don't know why people expected deep state officials to keep records of their own crimes.
All we can really hope for at this point is some meaningful FBI reform. Which we also probably won't get.
The fact that the entire FBI wasn't fired on day one is a big sign that nothing is going to change. Anything positive that Trump wants done with the FBI is going to get stonewalled, and they are just going to figure out ways to entrench themselves even further.
The FBI destroyed or altered all of the incriminating files years ago. If anything is left its probably a paper hardcopy kept in Hillary's bathroom or something. Bondi and Patel were never going to find anything.
Here's the thing. I could have potentially believed (but still been skeptical of) that excuse if they immediately went with that from the outset. Instead we got "the list is on my desk" and "there are 10s of thousands of hours of video of children being abused." They've long missed their chance to credibly claim that all the evidence had been destroyed before they got in.
Hell, Kash and Bongino are both trying to assert he killed himself. That is not a "they destroyed the evidence before we could see it" issue. That is a "they are deeply compromised" issue. Or being blackmailed. Functionally the same.
Agree that all 3 of them have thoroughly destroyed their credibility. It was almost as if, by saying they had all the evidence, they were hoping someone magically dropped it on their desk.
While its possible they are compromised, the deep state put up a hell of a fight to keep them out. I think they are just incompetent, fixated bulldogs who walked into a viper's den of snakes far more intelligent then they are.
This is by far the worst black mark on the Trump administration.
Did the deep state really put up much of a fight to keep them out? Hegseth is really the only one I would say a big fight was put up over. Multiple instances where they tried to sink him with contrived scandals, both before and after his confirmation.
The deep state desperately did not want Gaetz and they got their wish there. Bondi I don't recall any significant opposition aside from democrat partisan stuff.
The lack of power was obvious when Chris Wray made an obvious call to assassinate Trump, and nothing at all happened to him.
There will be no arrests, no files, and not only does the government bureaucracy want you to know that, they will rub your face in it.
I've said this before, but it needs to be crystal clear: No FBI reform is possible without firing everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, above the rank of ASAIC, Assistant Special Agent in Charge. If you cannot fire them, build a giant building on some island in the Pacific and move all of them there, and the only way they can leave is to resign. Adak, Alaska is a good candidate for this. Port and airfield already built, just needs repairs.
Personnel is policy, and you cannot change policy without changing personnel.
It's almost impossible to do that. It's not as if the agency doesn't do backups. The data is around. You can never assume you're in a position where you don't actively have to guard it. Destroying the data makes you vulnerable.
Which is why information flows and even project names are so tightly controlled. You can route the information to the wrong department. You can mislabel it. You can attach improper security labels to it. You can make the files inaccessible other than to the director.
No sane agency destroys anything. See: The Kennedy Assassination.
Queer timing what with the BBB squeaking to passage recently.
I wonder if getting the last few votes was contingent on the agreeing to not release "the list".
Quite a few uniparty republicans have been pretty vocal about there being nothing more to say about the whole PedoGate thing and to just (pretty please) drop it.
Well that's 3 careers dead and buried. NOTHING short of finding ALL the missing children from trafficking, actually prosecuting rouge judges and gutting both organisations within THIS month would justify them having their jobs.
The blackmail materials just have a new handler now. No way they destroyed them. They are just being enforced by a different manager.
Bondi, Kash, Bongo all got a talking to, and got in line.
Israel trying to shore up foundations before shit gets worse. Their global PR is at an all time low. They are gonna make us scrape and bow like good little minions until their anxiety is eased a bit.
Pam Bondi needs to be jailed and trump needs to be investigated for the first time, legitimately. This is definitely a trump cover up and he is definitely guilty.
israel first lol
I expect an apology from every single Trump sycophant (which I'll most likely never get). I pointed out the fact, many times, that it would be impossible for someone like Trump, a billionaire real estate mogul, to repeatedly make "bad" choices for his cabinet picks, unless it was by intention to undercut his campaign promises, and the only conceivable possibilities are that Trump is on the list, or he's defending people on the list, both of which means that Trump is corrupt and actively covering up a massive crime ring involved with human trafficking, child rape, torture, and murder.
The argument "if Trump was on the list it would've been released" assumes that Trump is genuine, not corrupt, and not playing a part as a false savior to placate the dissident right.
This is an either/or issue. Either you (government official) prosecute that crime ring and everyone on it, and nuke it from orbit to stop it entirely, or you're an enemy of the people. There is zero middle ground, and it's well beyond time that everyone realizes it.
I will apologize for them. Trump and his administration have been a huge disappointment lately. If he isn't completely owned by Israel, he sure isn't doing anything to show it.
I'm not a trump fan but I will say at least the deportation talk has gotten the local illegals to start acting better. They haven't blasted music until 2am lately.
Cope and seethe
Idk that's what a JEWpac supporter would say
Which are a traditionally impotent class.
Bondi's from Florida. She's a compromise with Ron and his people. I thought this was obvious.
Which list? The sex trafficking list or the money laundering list?
The details you've ignored are far more important than the ones you've admitted. It seems like you want it to be an either or issue. Why?
LOL
Uh huh. Sure. Yeah. Okay. Billionaires = impotent! I guess, relative to trillionaire bankers, sure, billionaires are "impotent" by comparison. I guess all that lobbying of Congress and politicians by multi millionaires and billionaires just doesn't happen, and they're completely powerless in society.
Are you so into the Trump derangement syndrome (the other side of it) that you're afraid of admitting to yourself that you were wrong, and will conjure all manner of excuse to cover for that mistake? You have free will. You're not a machine. If you make a mistake, you can admit it, move on, and stop making that mistake.
How many bad picks does Trump have to make for you to get it? How many bad AGs has Trump appointed? All of them. How many pro Israel/jew picks has Trump made? All of them. It's a repeated pattern of behavior.
Let me spell it out for you really simply. Trump is a billionaire real estate mogul. That would mean he'd get all manner of leeches and fake friends, who only get close to him so they can get a share of his wealth, or get sweet heart deals for easy money. If Trump was a genuinely good person, he would've learned to spot the warning signs of such leeches and disingenuous people really quickly. Even normal guys learn really quickly to protect themselves when their "friends" backstab them. Trump, a billionaire, would (should) have his guard up a lot more to protect himself from these people, and would be able to spot them even moreso than the average guy. So, why then does Trump repeatedly pick people who constantly undermine and sabotage his campaign promises? That's not indicative of genuine behavior, or even incompetence. If the pattern of behavior always points toward one outcome, especially with regard to specific beliefs, then it's intentional.
I guess it's easier to obfuscate an extremely clear issue than admit to being wrong.
So...when it comes to abducting, trafficking, raping, torturing, and murdering kids, helping to cover it up, and not punishing anyone responsible, you're arguing there's a grey area? Please, enlighten us to this "grey" area on that subject.
No, I said "real estate billionaires." Thank you for demonstrating your lack of honesty or capability to manage arguments. As if the wall of text wasn't a hint.
The problem with real estate and with real estate companies is they are extremely vulnerable to lawfare. Not that this ever happened to Trump. And not that it pushed him into the arms of isreali donors.
Let me spell it out for you: You're dishonest and stupid.
And? Guess he needs to decide if he wants to be a real estate mogul or the President of the United States.
Poor Trump. He's got no choice but to fuck his supporters in the ass. But fortunately despite how bloody their assholes get they don't realize they're getting fucked in the ass.
Thank you for more gaslighting and logical fallacies.
I'll ask the pertinent question, again. I want a direct answer, and everyone here deserves to be enlightened by your mountainous intellect:
When it comes to abducting, trafficking, raping, torturing, and murdering kids, helping to cover it up, and not punishing anyone responsible, you're arguing there's a grey area? What is this "grey" area?
You neither deserve one nor should expect one. You're dishonest and stupid. Why would I waste my time? You don't read, you don't listen, you just badger. Get fucked.
No where did I do that. You can't win arguments so this is what you do? You dissembling loser. Thank you for reminding me I should have just blocked you. You're too retarded to be able to handle basic conversation.
You use words like "gaslighting" because that's all you know how to do. So you assume everyone else does. You are in fact very stupid.
Thank you for confirming that you still support Trump, after he's proven to be an active enabler and defender of pedophiles, human traffickers, and murderers, and that you too are a supporter of such politicians.
You dont deserve an apology for guessing right lol wtf?
It's moreso for being maligned by the Trump sycophants for trying to open their eyes and break them out of the spell, so they're no longer fooled by false saviors.
Yea but you were just guessing and they knew that.
You think everyone is stupid but you or something?
If people still support Trump, then yes they're stupid.
To a certain degree, I suppose. Reality doesn't come to us in notarized government documents with 10,000 authorities in lab coats testifying to it. We have to figure it out on our own, so there will always be some level of "guessing", because we can't be 100% sure on things outside of fundamental truths (like math and logic).
When things don't make sense, we have to theorize different possibilities, and judge the merits of those possibilities based on future events, which will prove or disprove the theories, if those theories predicted those future events. When people's words don't match their actions, when a politician's actions in office don't match their campaign promises, you have to pay attention to what they do, not what they say, to determine who they really are. If a pattern repeats continually, that's a really good indicator for truth, even if someone is lying to you about it, claiming it isn't true (like crime statistics and racial disparities).
So, yes, I was "guessing", but it was a really well informed guess that keeps being proven right, matches Trump's behaviors perfectly, matches his cabinet picks perfectly, and matches the repeated pattern of behavior and results.
How would it be impossible for him to have "bad" picks?
And how does the assassination attempt fit into this?
By "bad" picks, I mean that Trump 100% of the time (or nearly so) picks people who don't enact his campaign promises, who actively sabotage those campaign promises. This gives him plausible deniability with his more gullible supporters who are blinded by cult hero worship. Those "bad" picks are entirely intentional, which is why the pattern of behavior and results align 100% (or nearly so). Campaign promises like "lock her up", draining the swamp, which necessarily requires prosecuting criminals and traitors, building the wall, deporting illegals, no more foreign wars, no more foreign aid, stopping weapons to Ukraine, fixing voting, releasing the Epstein list and evidence, these are all campaign promises that Trump has reneged on, and not just a little bit, but sometimes in complete antithesis to the campaign promise.
As for the assassination attempt, there's still the very real possibilities that it was faked (the part where Trump's ear was grazed) or that it was a competing group in globohomo who tried to kill him.
Trump participated in pro wrestling, which often uses sly ways to produce cuts and injuries. It wouldn't be difficult for Trump, or one of his secret service to do that, while an actual shooter hit people around him. The supposed assassin was 200 yards away. I, and many of my friends and family, have shot at 200 yards. Even with 1x scopes, it's quite easy and repeatable to get head shots at 200 yards. If this event was staged, with the supposed assassin as a patsy, while the real shooters killed and injured people in the audience, then we can assume that they hit their intended targets. Dedicated snipers can hit very specific and small targets really, really easily at 200 yards, and much further out depending on gear.
People make the mistake that globohomo is monolithic and unfractured. It's simply not true. These are the kinds of people who hold every anti-virtue possible. They're violent, vengeful, fracturing, and greedy by their very nature. They have disparate plans and ways to go about their agreed upon plans (like the Kalergi plan). They disagree with each other all the time, it's just not advertised in the news. So, it's entirely conceivable that one faction who didn't want Trump tried to assassinate him, while a different faction was supporting him. The campaign contributions to Trump supports the latter position, and the virulent anti-Trump hatred among many leaders supports the former.
Is that hatred of Trump by the people in power purely theater, for our sakes, to keep the false political dichotomy going? Was the assassination staged or real? Was Trump in on it? We don't have enough information to definitively say one way or another, and given the amount of false flags perpetrated by our own government over decades, it would be incredibly foolish to believe the official story. Always entertain plausible alternatives, especially when it comes to politicians being corrupt, screwing us over, and lying.
What I can say, based on the evidence at hand, is that Trump has reneged on all of his most important campaign promises. Trump is a false savior, meant to placate the dissident right while globohomo progresses for another 4 years, while we "trust the plan" and do nothing to stop it. False saviors are another control mechanism to get political dissidents, who escaped the false dichotomy of politics (the controlled mainstream left and right), to condense support onto that false savior, who then shepherds those political dissidents back into the false dichotomy fold. Trump did this, explicitly, by working through the extremely corrupt Republican party, and working with those corrupt Republicans, while attacking and threatening to primary the very few Republicans who aren't (or less) corrupt. Trump is also a staunch zionist, and all of his cabinet picks are zionists, who instead of pushing his campaign promises, the very first things they did and pursue are punishing antisemitism. You can't be America First and be a zionist, be pro jew, or punish antisemitism (desecrating the 1st Amendment and Christian doctrine). These are extremely good indicators for who Trump actually is.
Don't listen to what people say. Pay attention to what they do, because that is who they really are. This is even more important in politics.
No no, he's saving Israel for last. ;)
Seriously though, I still want to believe there is some kind of secret infiltration op going and that's why they've suddenly gone dark on this. Throw the enemy off until the last minute and then you pounce and bring everyone down at the same time. This is not only from me liking Trump, but from actions of the other players involved too. For example Bongino's recent statements before this been that there's a lot more going on than we know, and we can't talk about it yet. Also she's probably just another influencer who heard what she wanted to hear from an "inside source", but Megyn Kelly did this weird segment last year where she said "We're not done with Jeffrey Epstein... We're going to hear a lot more about Jeffrey Epstein in the coming year - and you may be hearing from him 'directly' - more on that as I'm allowed to tell you."
Wtf does that mean???
But I don't really believe all that, any more than I believe in UFO/UAP conspiracies. I'm not holding my breath or anything, and I'm not going to try to convince anyone IT'S HAPPENING. Whatever. He's got 3 years. Happy to see Trump's fans ain't having it either and aren't going to let it go. This time we won't accept any "well he tried but the swamp was too deep" or "he made bad picks" excuses.
Great Awakening is a mental disease.
If only you knew how many two week intervals there really are
God I fucking hate them.
Epstein is like a 95-5 issue. I don't think I've ever met anyone who legitimately believes he killed himself. Many leftoids were happy to be quiet about it for years while Biden was in power, but now that it's Trump in power they will absolutely be loud about it.
And if Trump thinks his supporters will be quiet about it, he is sorely mistaken. The concept of the world being ruled by a cabal of elite pedophiles is a notion many on the right have had before Trump even came on the scene. People won't stop believing that, especially under such sketchy circumstances, at this point.
That all being said, the way this has all gone down is very curious to me. If they had truly planned to cover it up all along, I don't think they would have made a fuss about the fact that they would release it. And I don't think Bondi would have said things like "the list is on my desk" and "there are 10s of thousands of hours of footage of children being abused." Seems way too uncoordinated for it to have been the plan to cover it up from the start.
Makes me wonder if they were legitimately clueless and ignorant to the nature of the Epstein operation and then got approached by Mossad like "don't blow our cover or X, Y, and Z will happen." Indeed, videos have surfaced of Kash and Bongino doing the standard Israel dick sucking routine, so it would make sense.
Just a shit sandwich all around, and supports the notion that there may be no political solution to this, or that if there is, much more control is needed to enact it. Also does more to show that our so-called greatest ally is anything but, but the people who still live in that fantasy land would never believe the obvious fact that Epstein was connected to Mossad anyway.
This is the only part that makes the "coverup" seem less done and dusted as it would otherwise be. They keep bringing it up, long after people have given up hope and just moved on and doing so in a way that is so absolutely bad that they have to know it will make people talk about it more.
So that's the new question, what is the actual angle being played? If it was just a mere bury it to protect the people involved, they had already done that and most people had let it fall off the main wagon. So why keep doing this kind of play? If its a simple humiliation ritual, its way too close to the sun.
I think it's plausible, if he believed he wasn't going to get the same kid gloves treatment as last time. It's not even incompatible with him being silenced - the most plausibly deniable way of killing a prisoner would be to convince him that you're going to throw him to the wolves so that suicide looks like the easy way out.
But all that does is establish a potential motive for him to do it. It doesn't overcome all of the circumstances surrounding it.
"Oh, we just happened to take him off suicide watch."
"Oh, the guy in the cell over heard him screaming."
"Oh, the cameras happened to be malfunctioning and the guards were asleep."
Riiiight....
Until it’s released, all leaders, politicians, and the rich in the world should be assumed on that list and pedo.
Absolutely pathetic.
The Deep State isn't like a cancer on the system that you can remove to improve everything, it is the system. And the system protects itself.
Trump isn't the wrecking ball everyone hoped he would be. But he was never going to actually destroy the system by working with it to make a deal or whatever he does.
So no more pathetic than everything else
Welp, I was optimistic, but still didn't expect it to ever be released. That is, if any of the documents even exist any more. They're almost certainly squirreled away and in the hands of the next blackmail gathering op.
That said, nobody else would have ever released it either so it's not worse than any alternatives.
In the miraculous event that we had gotten Matt Gaetz, some men in sunglasses would have shown up with pictures of his family and their homes and say, "sure would be terrible if something happened to these people" and he'd be singing the same tune as Bongino and Patel now.
All we can really hope for at this point is some meaningful FBI reform. Which we also probably won't get.
If they even existed in the first place. If I were Mossad, I would have been shredding those things the second Epstein got in trouble with the law. I don't know why people expected deep state officials to keep records of their own crimes.
The fact that the entire FBI wasn't fired on day one is a big sign that nothing is going to change. Anything positive that Trump wants done with the FBI is going to get stonewalled, and they are just going to figure out ways to entrench themselves even further.
No, if that's what's happening here, this is far worse. Should be obvious why.
Best I can give you is a shiny new building.
They are trying to throw the midterms.
The FBI destroyed or altered all of the incriminating files years ago. If anything is left its probably a paper hardcopy kept in Hillary's bathroom or something. Bondi and Patel were never going to find anything.
Yeah. I have no idea what they were thinking with that. Some people just need to stay off fucking twitter.
Here's the thing. I could have potentially believed (but still been skeptical of) that excuse if they immediately went with that from the outset. Instead we got "the list is on my desk" and "there are 10s of thousands of hours of video of children being abused." They've long missed their chance to credibly claim that all the evidence had been destroyed before they got in.
Hell, Kash and Bongino are both trying to assert he killed himself. That is not a "they destroyed the evidence before we could see it" issue. That is a "they are deeply compromised" issue. Or being blackmailed. Functionally the same.
Agree that all 3 of them have thoroughly destroyed their credibility. It was almost as if, by saying they had all the evidence, they were hoping someone magically dropped it on their desk.
While its possible they are compromised, the deep state put up a hell of a fight to keep them out. I think they are just incompetent, fixated bulldogs who walked into a viper's den of snakes far more intelligent then they are.
This is by far the worst black mark on the Trump administration.
Did the deep state really put up much of a fight to keep them out? Hegseth is really the only one I would say a big fight was put up over. Multiple instances where they tried to sink him with contrived scandals, both before and after his confirmation.
The deep state desperately did not want Gaetz and they got their wish there. Bondi I don't recall any significant opposition aside from democrat partisan stuff.
The lack of power was obvious when Chris Wray made an obvious call to assassinate Trump, and nothing at all happened to him.
There will be no arrests, no files, and not only does the government bureaucracy want you to know that, they will rub your face in it.
I've said this before, but it needs to be crystal clear: No FBI reform is possible without firing everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, above the rank of ASAIC, Assistant Special Agent in Charge. If you cannot fire them, build a giant building on some island in the Pacific and move all of them there, and the only way they can leave is to resign. Adak, Alaska is a good candidate for this. Port and airfield already built, just needs repairs.
Personnel is policy, and you cannot change policy without changing personnel.
It's almost impossible to do that. It's not as if the agency doesn't do backups. The data is around. You can never assume you're in a position where you don't actively have to guard it. Destroying the data makes you vulnerable.
Which is why information flows and even project names are so tightly controlled. You can route the information to the wrong department. You can mislabel it. You can attach improper security labels to it. You can make the files inaccessible other than to the director.
No sane agency destroys anything. See: The Kennedy Assassination.
lol, lmao, actual shitshow.
Phase 1 LOLOLOLOLOL
checks files
Queer timing what with the BBB squeaking to passage recently.
I wonder if getting the last few votes was contingent on the agreeing to not release "the list".
Quite a few uniparty republicans have been pretty vocal about there being nothing more to say about the whole PedoGate thing and to just (pretty please) drop it.
Well that's 3 careers dead and buried. NOTHING short of finding ALL the missing children from trafficking, actually prosecuting rouge judges and gutting both organisations within THIS month would justify them having their jobs.
The blackmail materials just have a new handler now. No way they destroyed them. They are just being enforced by a different manager.
Bondi, Kash, Bongo all got a talking to, and got in line.
Israel trying to shore up foundations before shit gets worse. Their global PR is at an all time low. They are gonna make us scrape and bow like good little minions until their anxiety is eased a bit.
Pam Bondi needs to be jailed and trump needs to be investigated for the first time, legitimately. This is definitely a trump cover up and he is definitely guilty.
Yeah, I think it’s funny how people are so quick to blame Kash and Bondi when it’s obvious that the scandal extends to Trump as well.
Two more weeks!
Glad that got sorted out!
Now, move along folks. Nothing to see here.
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