"Attorney general seeks death penalty for Luigi Mangione."
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It's premeditated murder, were people expecting community service and probation?
They were outraged when a man was given five years for running down and killing a Trump supporting teenager with his car. I think they are expecting an acquittal.
Hell, look at that guy in Georgia that got convicted of murder for holding a cell phone while someone else shot a guy.
Why not?
How many people did the CEO purposely let die for profit?
When else would justice have been doled out to someone like him?
How long are the plebeians supposed to wait for people who operate above the law to be held accountable by that same law?
United HealthCare, the insurance company in question, has a profit margin of less than 4%. Now you could argue, it should be zero, but the answer to your question would still be: "less than you think".
Since most of the rejections are because they genuinely can't pay for it. So it's not the insurance company that lets people die, it's the hospitals that charge about $3000 on average for a bandaid.
Got any proof to go along with that statement?
It's easy to calculate.
Take the total paid into the company from insurance premiums, then subtract the amount paid out for claims. Divide that amount by the Value of Statistical Life, and you get the equivalent number of people killed by the insurance company.
Since the company has profits of $14.4 billion, then they have killed more than 1920 people equivalent. And that of course is a very conservative underestimate, since profits don't include non claims overhead such as wages and rent.
I don't get the calculation. If I'm generally healthy and will not need much in terms of health coverage but I do have a good insurance payed by my employer - would the extra money I put in go towards the number of people killed?
What is the ideal insurance company from the perspective of the customer? What is the ideal insurance company from the perspective of the stockholder?
What is the purpose of an insurance company from the perspective of the customer? What is the purpose of an insurance company from the perspective of a stockholder?
Also, how do you calculate the expected value of a bet?
It depends, are we calculating for a business that actually has an incentive to exist, or a magical altruism portal that runs on fairy dust?
The former. Money doesn't come from nothing, but all overhead is taking from the money that should be going back to the customer. The ideal insurance company from the perspective of the customer is one which has zero employees, zero rent, and zero stockholders. All premiums go right back to the customers.
From the perspective of the Stockholders the opposite is true. They want absolutely nothing to go back to the customers. In their ideal world everyone would be required to buy insurance and they never have to pay out.
Thus the CEO's job is to maximize taking money from the customers that would otherwise be spent on keeping said customers alive, thus killing them in part.
I was just asking about the formula. I understand the idea of being in the best interest of the company to not pay insurance but the formula would need to be how many claims for life saving are being denied that caused the person to die do to either poor care or debt.
The point would be that the insurance needs to be useful, bad insurance policies can tank a company. So ideal would be one that offers good / great service while also being expensive enough as to bring in profits.
You didn't answer his question
Solvency is a prerequisite. I know the ACA tried to create Healthcare via insurance companies, but its an idiotic approach even if you're an advocate for "free" healthcare (especially if, really).
Of course it is, and you are retarded for implying otherwise. An insurance company that doesn't exist after you pay into it is the same as an insurance company that doesn't pay out.
As for not answering his question, I already gave it more respect than it deserves by giving him some questions to think about to get to the answer. He wasn't asking in good faith because he is one of those "Won't you think of the poor CEO's" type.
That's retarded.
It's a rhetorical question.
We'll never know because under the current system people like him are never held accountable.
That’s the irony of this forum, we say time to hang the traitors and then some guy does for real and we are all clutching pearls saying “well he’s a murderer!”. We don’t even really know his politics or his motive or anything except he was a silver spooner who blasted another wealthy man. For all we know the ceo could’ve been sexting mangiones gf.
None? Dead people don't pay premiums. Health insurance wants you alive and perpetually sick, but never dead.
That's not true at all. Death is very big business.
Health insurers definitely DON'T want you perpetually sick, they would rather pay for the lethal injection instead of forever treatments. Hospitals do because they can charge an arm and a leg perpetually either you or your insurer until you gracelessly expire. Insurers want you perfectly healthy until retirement then you die of a heart attack or stroke so the only thing they pay is the funeral.
That's a good point right up until the end. Health insurance doesn't pay for funerals.
You got a list of all their patients?
Do you faggot
So you're blindly defending a rich CEO who died running a company in an industry that profits off scamming the proletariat (newsflash: insurance companies are scams).... the question is, why?
Mangione is a fucking trust fund baby you retarded faggot. You're defending him murdering a dude that's lower class than him because you have a commie boner
Ad hominems don't change the facts.
One person's class status doesn't change another person's transgressions.
I think the Attourney General has better things to worry about right now.
This is a state crime. It doesn't rise to the federal level. The defendant is rather pathetic and no serious movement has formed around him.
Anything to avoid Epstein I guess.
WHERE'S THE EPSTEIN LIST, PAM?
Of course they were
And all the killings in Chicago are what exactly?
Climate change.
socioeconomic factors
Covid
systemic racism
Mutual combat
A good start
Self-cleaning oven.
This only further convinces me that he didn't do it.
On the one hand, screw Luigi. This was a case of premeditated murder, and a politically motivated killing at that. Yes, the whole health insurance situation is a mess (though not nearly as bad as redditors and related constantly make it out to be), but what did killing this guy possibly accomplish?
On the other hand, I have very serious reservations about the death penalty. Anyone who trusts the DoJ to actually care about justice is just retarded, and giving them the power to kill in the name of their "justice" is frankly scary.
It sends a message.
As I stated above, people like the CEO will never be brought to justice otherwise.
Insurance is a scam industry, it always has been. Anyone still blindly following the system as if it works or that the two-tier justice for the haves and have-nots deserve the crumbling society they are given.
Justice was served. Plain and simple. People like Brian Thompson will never see the gavel of justice in any other capacity, and people too pacifist to do anything about it will just let the rotting justice system continue to give leeway to the profiteers and kakistocrats..
It's the medical industry itself. There's plenty of problems with socialised medicine that lethally scam people in a different way.
Exactly.
A CEO dying as a symbol of a broken system at least puts the broken system in the spotlight... it's better than everyone silently marinating in corruption.
Well, exactly, Luigi is clearly mentally ill.
Its not about the CEO, its about sending a message. The US deserves a better class of criminal Luigi Malone is going to give it to them.
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I'm including both because the archive cuts off text.
Shame, since a whole lot more of the Medical Industrial Complex C-Level and Board members need the Mangione Massage.
Gotta keep the plebs in line.
Will the people chimp out if they go through with it or is that only for Soros funded niggerriots?
Prediction:
If he is put to death, several child molesting women will make Tik Toks about how much it hurts them. Then they will take their victim arousal and beat their clits like a speedbag.
Let him go, then one night have a plainclothes cop shoot him in the back of the head and have every right wing influence celebrate the cop as a hero and talk about how handsome he is.
Justice.
Frankly i think this is a bad idea as I believe it would martyr him
Death should be the default for premeditated murder.
good. Fuck murderers.
Funny, I felt the same way about Brian Thompson
Correction: Attorney general seeks immortal martyrdom for Luigi Mangione.
post an actual source next time
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney-general-pamela-bondi-directs-prosecutors-seek-death-penalty-luigi-mangione
I posted my sources on a comment.
yup, I didn't look hard enough. I stand corrected
It happens, man. No worries.
This is the only win where people mock others for posting screenshots.
PDW gets them posted all the time and they never get this.
They also get shit done instead of sitting around and complaining.
Then again, it's only ever you and that fake-butter snake-eater who are so stuck up your own asses about it.