Reddit is a case example of how when you empathy too thin by caring about everyone and everything, you become less in touch with humanity than a psychopath.
...of course that's the generous take, the other take is that they're all malicious actors that don't care how many children are raped so long as THEIR side wins.
Yeah that is a really weird way to try to graph that data. It doesn't make sense to have a circular graph represent a distribution across a linear scale like 0-20. And then they wrote a whole paragraph just to explain it because they couldn't label the axes. Anyway, they're saying liberals allocate compassion towards universal/global things like world over your own country, nonhumans are as important as humans, compassion for aliens and paramecium, etc.
Angle really doesn’t mean anything except help give the map a rounded figure. The deeper reds and bigger the mass represents the number of people who have empathy in that specific ring. Green just means only a few of those people have empathy in that ring while red means more.
Reddit was never empathetic. Reddit has always been a toxic shithole meant to condition you into craving internet validation over real world accomplishments.
THAT'S why I said generous take, to be honest the former really applies to SOME of the leftist activist, there's a few in that brainwashed mass that are just so stupid with how they apply empathy that they wind up working for the bad guys.
I'm pretty sure that Reddit is just meant to make money, even if it doesn't. It probably did have the result you mention. Apparently, there are enough people who care about karma that accusations of 'karmafarming' are a thing.
Reddits NET income 12 months running is like NEGATIVE -$500M. Reddit has never had a money making business model. And it has no business being a publicly traded company.
"Empathy" is just a made up word* women introduced into Psychology to champion their superior "emotional intelligence" narrative. Because too many times they got hit back for trying to sympathize with someone with lines like "how could you possibly understand what I'm going through."
So they created this super awesome power to just be able to emotionally resonate with people on everything regardless of their privilege or identity. When in reality it was just sympathy repackaged to pretend it wasn't 1st World White Women crying about pain they couldn't understand to begin with.
*It was originally a translation for some German word used to project your desires onto objects, like a mountain stretching upwards. It got complete redefined around WW2, coincidentally once Karen Horney had been poisoning the well with her feminist superiority psychology across America.
To be fair, a dirty little secret is that the vast majority of people don't have the ability to actually sympathize either, which is why it got its bastardized watered down definition of "I feel bad that you feel bad". But being able to actually place yourself in someone else's shoes, understand their point of view, how they arrived at it, why it seems right to them, what data led them to that conclusion, etc is a skill that I would wager less than 5% of humans actually have. Virtually everyone is only able to view the world through the lens of their own experience, even if they think they can do otherwise.
Men are better at literally everything on earth except for raising children from birth until about 4 years old. Even after that age, fathers are better than mothers at raising kids.
I think most people can sympathize, but its not an absolving feeling either. I can sympathize with the hard life a single mom is going through. This doesn't mean I approve of her actions nor believe that the blame isn't still squarely on her regardless. I'm certain almost anyone can manage that level of sympathy, as its basic human morality.
But that's what people want. They want your positive emotions, but without any judgement. Which is what "empathy" means to them. Its a woman explaining how she cheated but wants you to think of her as a victim anyway and tell her her reasonings as valid.
Interestingly enough, the word "indo-european" didn't start appearing until after WWII. They used to use the word "aryan" dating all the way back to the sumerians
You could probably spend a lifetime going through the list of all the deliberate cultural engineering done under the shadow of WW2. Most of which has been bred so deep into our minds that we'd not even think to question it.
Reddit is a case example of how when you empathy too thin by caring about everyone and everything
I can assure you that they care about themselves and only themselves.
...of course that's the generous take, the other take is that they're all malicious actors that don't care how many children are raped so long as THEIR side wins.
Ah, you are aware. But it's not even their side, like it's not their opinions. They've been conscripted into the side of the establishment with propaganda. We give them too much credit by pretending that they have empathy, a side, or opinions.
Absolutely. They worship power and will obey what power tells them. That said, they are passive as it is, because they're simply following instructions. Ingsocians were not active simply because they shook their fists at Goldstein for two minutes when they were told to.
Translation: He's ass mad about the Starmer Government making fantastic progress in an energy transition that he and Trump will never be able to overturn. Get fucked.
"We've killed the energy infrastructure for the UK permanently! The whole of Britain will be powered by solar farms with cloudy skies and an a density of wind farms greater in density than the number of Pakistani child rapists in Rotherham! CRY HARDER REPUBLITURDS"
Britain must be liberated from these savages by any means available to us.
It also ignores that most of Europe is actually behind the US on green tech. But that is because Americans typically care about energy, not political correctness around energy, so we will still produce oil and gas and then find ways to make both cleaner while also investing in wind farms and solar panels.
It is why my home state of Kansas can get 40% of its power from wind turbines and not have to worry about blackouts (because the gas turbines can cover the slow days). It is also why the US is one of the only Western nations that decreased their CO2 emissions at the same time Europe was still increasing even though they virtue signal so hard about their green stances (compared to Americans screaming "Drill, baby, drill!").
America is a big diverse land, it has prime locations for basically every type of energy production and if everyone got on the same page in government we could probably make massive strides in it by investing in all of them.
But instead we do things like Dam up the Colorado River to ship it off to California to prevent them from literally dying based on some ancient agreement, and let all that hydropower go to waste.
It is definitely overwhelmingly Germans/Prussians (as Kansas has a similar climate and geography to eastern Germany, almost 35% of the state has this lineage). But there was/are sizable amounts of Swedes, Dutch, Irish, English, and French. And in recent years, it is a lot of Mexicans, Guatemalans, and Vietnamese.
Another interesting one to note is the so called "Exodusters" communities, where were founded by former slaves from the South who didnt believe the US Governments claims of "40 acres and a mule", and were brought to better land by other blacks like Booker T. Washington to start building new communities in new land doing what they knew how to do already until they could build themselves up.
But that is because Americans typically care about energy, not political correctness around energy, so we will still produce oil and gas and then find ways to make both cleaner while also investing in wind farms and solar panels.
France gets most of its electricity from nuclear, which is a far better source of power than these ridiculous wind and solar - of which anything more than a token number is not cost-effective. It also happens to be cleaner.
It is also why the US is one of the only Western nations that decreased their CO2 emissions at the same time Europe was still increasing even though they virtue signal so hard about their green stances (compared to Americans screaming "Drill, baby, drill!").
You wouldn't believe how many people in Europe scream about Drumpf withdrawing from the Paris climate accord. It's the one thing that people who don't dislike him dislike. While the insanity of Europeans is grossly overestimated in America, one place where it's underestimated is the whole 'climate change' thing. And I say that as someone who thinks that it's real and in significant part caused by human activity.
France gets most of its electricity from nuclear, which is a far better source of power than these ridiculous wind and solar - of which anything more than a token number is not cost-effective. It also happens to be cleaner.
True, but they are the exception rather than the rule. The UK only just now is starting to talk about nuclear after blowing it off for decades, and I dont think I need to tell you about the unhinged self own that is Germany's nuclear situation. And furthermore, the one that really yanks my chain is that they did finally start admitting they needed gas turbines to make it work, but for entirely political reasons they utterly refuse to buy American gas, to the point they still try to find ways around their own sanctions to get Russian gas to offset what Norway cant fulfill. And when Trump told them this would be a problem, they laughed at him (a moment that will forever live rent free in my head as a sign of "European Arrogance").
I guess to be fair though, the US is also behind the ball on nuclear and only recently has been making moves to increase its use (one of the few topics of bipartisanship between Biden and Trump). But we have at least made up for it with widespread adaption of gas to the point it is even replacing oil in some cases.
While the insanity of Europeans is grossly overestimated in America, one place where it's underestimated is the whole 'climate change' thing. And I say that as someone who thinks that it's real and in significant part caused by human activity.
Yeah, agreed. I have no problem admitting climate change is influenced by human behavior, and even if it isnt getting rid of pollution is a good thing. But I (and I think most Americans) have an issue with the solutions rather than the issue itself. And the Europeans and their attitude is why I have long described myself as a conservationist rather than an environmentalist, because sometimes the actually good for the environment and humanity option is to drill the oil and use it.
On a related note, I do find it funny that so many Europeans seem to treat America as some desolate hellscape compared to them, yet like I pointed out we are the one actually reducing our pollution output in comparison, and there are very few equivalents to the National Park Service or Forestry Service that the US has in Europe (both of which are some of the only universally popular parts of the US government).
The UK only just now is starting to talk about nuclear after blowing it off for decades, and I dont think I need to tell you about the unhinged self own that is Germany's nuclear situation.
Quite merciful of you.
Although you always need to keep into account that what seems like a bad decision from the POV of public interest may be very good from the self-interest of the parties involved. E.g. the German environmentalists were bribed by Gazprom to support the Nord Stream pipeline. Their argument was that given that nuclear is a no-go for them, natural gas would be needed for the transition to supposedly clean sources of energy.
for entirely political reasons they utterly refuse to buy American gas, to the point they still try to find ways around their own sanctions to get Russian gas to offset what Norway cant fulfill.
I'm not sure what you're talking about. What I see is Germany and the rest of Europe committing economic suicide by buying heavily marked-up American LNG, instead of cheap Russian natural gas... and that was before the imperial puppet ceased the transit of all Russian natural gas entirely.
Remember that this is a 'country' that didn't raise a peep of protest or even comment when its critical infrastructure was targeted by sabotage and terrorism by the US. They are puppets.
And when Trump told them this would be a problem, they laughed at him (a moment that will forever live rent free in my head as a sign of "European Arrogance").
Let's be real, Trump was wrong. He was trying to foist expensive American energy on Europe vs. cheap Russian energy. It's good for you. It's very bad for us. But the interests of the mercillessly exploited periphery doesn't matter much to the imperial center.
I have no problem admitting climate change is influenced by human behavior, and even if it isnt getting rid of pollution is a good thing.
And that is why I am more enthusiastic about replacing coal with natural gas than with replacing natural gas by so called 'renewables' - even if it were practical.
I do find it funny that so many Europeans seem to treat America as some desolate hellscape compared to them
When Greece was conquered by Rome, they had to pull up their noses for Rome, because otherwise they'd have nothing. All things considered, I'd rather live in Europe than in the US, but that may be because I've always lived here.
yet like I pointed out we are the one actually reducing our pollution output in comparison
They don't care. They care about symbolism. Or rather, they care about what they're told to care about, which are solely symbolic things. With immigration, they experience in their daily lives that it is a disaster, so they don't buy what they are told - contrary to what Americans here will tell you, even leftists Europeans generally aren't PC. With climate change, they don't know much, so it's easy to buy into hypes that are in the media or ambient.
They chose wrong. At a certain point, we are the hegemon, they are our cousins, and their choice was irreconcilable with human civilization. Thus, their choice must be corrected.
Not a very Libertarian thing for me to say, but when your choice demands the violation of the NAP against the defenseless, I don't think any autistic lolbert arguments are persuasive.
You're making the claim about this thread, that he's trying to act like this or that. But you're obviously wrong, as he's not talking about white people at all.
I don't remember the context of this conversation. I assume that, like always, you ignore everything I said and made up your own context, and are now misapplying it here.
See, child rape is bad, m'kay? I don't really care whether or not you like the English. I don't care whether you consider them Capital W White or not. I don't care if you think of them as cousins or as an intractable foe.
The mass child rape is a problem that is so extreme it is an anathema to civilization and a crime against humanity. I don't really care what post-hoc rationalization you are making to respond to institutionally supported mass child rape as a weapon of conquest with "good", but no, it's not good.
I guess I just want to reach out to whatever sliver of humanity you have left to try and convince you that no: not good.
Bullshit. More than anything, my problem is being easily distracted by new arguments in order to change the context of the argument at had.
Like how you're pushing me to defend myself with this distraction, rather than focusing back on the fact that child rape is bad, and stopping it is good, even someone is pursuing the end of child rape for self-serving reasons.
They're constantly choosing not to act. If they want to kill themselves and let their kids get raped, we're better off without them in the gene pool. They're just pissing in it, along with the Muslims.
I hate retards and don't want to support them. Europe voted for this shit, and hasn't stopped it. They need to do something themselves. They aren't, so they aren't worth saving.
Britain has no value to the US. They are the dead. I would not send a valuable american life to save the cuckistanians - only to confiscate their nuclear devices to deny the inevitable islamic state nuclear weaponry.
It's not our ground to cede, the brits were our enemy for longer than they've been an "ally " (parasite) and our government would never actually win that war, only waste lives pointlessly like the last 20 years.
Destroying the jihadis is a different conversation than saving the brits, too. If we were actually going to do it, the former is good policy. The latter is a waste of time. We don't want them as a state and allowing them self governance leads to their current problems. The britfags sending agents to meddle in our elections recently also marks them as hostile.
Britain was not our ally until we bailed them out in the world wars. They were a threat the entire 19th century and have provided net negative value as an ally. Their government is corrupt - so is ours. We have million strong protests against government corruption and threats of rebellion frequently. They roll over and beg to be stepped on by their "lords". Their nation is culturally dead and all that's left is the willing serfs. They have no value. I will not support spending the lives of my people on serfs that will never stand for themselves - either we save them and they let it happen again, and again, or we conquer them and they bring negative value culturally because they are cowardly serfs.
British people that want to live free can pick their shit up and move (all ten of them left).
They'll never stand for themselves - the only way to save them would be to essentially invade. You could call it many things, but american troops fighting in bongistan would be an invasion.
This is precisely why it is okay to support Elon in calling out the mass, institutionally supported, rape of children as a hate crime. Even if it's disingenuous virtue signaling, the apologetics for child rape that has been normalized is a crime against humanity.
We need a way to separate the "good" things jews say from the bad. They always worm their way in by siding with us, before trying to use us as their pawns or cattle. If we could use the momentum of their words which help us, but deny their tactics which harm us, we may gain something.
But then this is akin to making a deal with the devil. Maybe we could deny them first? Say something like:
"Even the genocidal jews can see mass raping young girls is bad."
He went to jewish school when young, first name is jewish, etc. Aspriationally jewish means he works for them and their culture.
Ironically, I have lots of first-hand experience with jews. I went to jewish school when young since family converted after I was born. But, I noticed the lies and inconsistencies young and rejected jewry. Even at 13 I realized I had to live honestly and in the light, so I refused to convert and got basically excommunicated from the society I was living in. I'd be willing to discuss more with you if you're interested.
The live chat comes off the back of weeks of controversy surrounding Musk’s rhetoric on his social media platform X and accusations of antisemitism running unchecked on the site.
He's clearly trying to defend himself against unfounded accusations.
first name is jewish,
Wait till you find out where 'Mike', 'Joe' and other Amerimutt names come from.
Aspriationally jewish means he works for them and their culture.
LOL. He works for them? You got all that from him telling Ben Shapiro that despite MSM smears, he doesn't hate the Jews?
I went to jewish school when young since family converted after I was born
Well, I'm sorry for your family and your bodily integrity. One thing I don't understand is people who convert to Judaism, or Islam for that matter. What?
Even at 13 I realized I had to live honestly and in the light, so I refused to convert and got basically excommunicated from the society I was living in.
This does make it more understandable. This is basically the Judaism equivalent of the Reddit r-atheism people who really hate Christianity because they were raised in the religion.
The thing is, it's one thing to reject a religion, and quite another to have racial hatred for people. One is defensible, the other is not. And if you step out of your bubble for just one moment, you will probably realize that using such phrases as "the genocidal Jews" will to everyone make you appear as though you are completely whacked in the head... especially when you're not even talking about a Jew!
I think you are an Israeli agent, a jew, or a fool.
Why not all three? Israel doesn't recruit fools as agents?
You claim lies about me to try and discredit me.
My friend, you don't need discrediting. Also, I don't claim "lies" about you. I didn't say anything about you at all.
I see your tactics and they aren't working.
I'll report back to Mossad that my orders to stop the Cattle Goyim from using 'the genocidal Jews' failed. Crap! He didn't buy my claim that it makes him look nuts. He will continue to use this silver bullet of an argument, and totally destroy Israel...
You are a one note robot. You get halfway to acknowledging that human beings are capable of individual thought, not collective hivemind ants, in your post and then pivot straight back to "reee jews" low iq goblin posting.
You are the behavior you call jewish. And musk isn't even a jew, you retard.
I don't care who says mass child rape is bad. If the Hamas supporting jews demand an end to Pakistani Labour Rape Gangs, then I will say 'at least we agree on that'.
I don't think they read past the headline, to be 'fair.' I would also assume (perhaps wrongly) there would have been a separate post in the sub about the released rape figures.
Also also, tHaT wUz LiKe, A bUzZiLlIoN yEaRs AgO, bRuV. They likely believe the rape scandal is an irrelevant, political attack angle in the midst of a national power struggle.
Their top post begins with: "Probably not related..." Pretty much admitting flat out the post is a distraction designed to turn the entire thread into a two-minute Trump-Elon hate.
R/Europe and practically all subs for European countries have long since been taken over by the predictable left-progressive lunatic crowd. They're all trigger-happy, stealth banning compulsive neurotics. And they all lean in the same political direction.
The entirety of Reddit is one big social engineering farm by Big Tech and you're the farm animals.
Reddit is a case example of how when you empathy too thin by caring about everyone and everything, you become less in touch with humanity than a psychopath.
...of course that's the generous take, the other take is that they're all malicious actors that don't care how many children are raped so long as THEIR side wins.
Yeah, 'The heatmap' explains a lot.
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Heatmaps-indicating-highest-moral-allocation-by-ideology-Study-3a-Source-data-are_fig6_336076674
Can you help me understand how to read that? I sort of get the rings and color, but the angle and shape of the data confuse me.
Yeah that is a really weird way to try to graph that data. It doesn't make sense to have a circular graph represent a distribution across a linear scale like 0-20. And then they wrote a whole paragraph just to explain it because they couldn't label the axes. Anyway, they're saying liberals allocate compassion towards universal/global things like world over your own country, nonhumans are as important as humans, compassion for aliens and paramecium, etc.
Angle really doesn’t mean anything except help give the map a rounded figure. The deeper reds and bigger the mass represents the number of people who have empathy in that specific ring. Green just means only a few of those people have empathy in that ring while red means more.
Reddit was never empathetic. Reddit has always been a toxic shithole meant to condition you into craving internet validation over real world accomplishments.
THAT'S why I said generous take, to be honest the former really applies to SOME of the leftist activist, there's a few in that brainwashed mass that are just so stupid with how they apply empathy that they wind up working for the bad guys.
I'm pretty sure that Reddit is just meant to make money, even if it doesn't. It probably did have the result you mention. Apparently, there are enough people who care about karma that accusations of 'karmafarming' are a thing.
Reddits NET income 12 months running is like NEGATIVE -$500M. Reddit has never had a money making business model. And it has no business being a publicly traded company.
After it was revealed that Saudi Arabia employed thousands to “shape the narrative”
I always viewed reddit as a Karachi-based open borders manipulation organization. .
"Empathy" is just a made up word* women introduced into Psychology to champion their superior "emotional intelligence" narrative. Because too many times they got hit back for trying to sympathize with someone with lines like "how could you possibly understand what I'm going through."
So they created this super awesome power to just be able to emotionally resonate with people on everything regardless of their privilege or identity. When in reality it was just sympathy repackaged to pretend it wasn't 1st World White Women crying about pain they couldn't understand to begin with.
*It was originally a translation for some German word used to project your desires onto objects, like a mountain stretching upwards. It got complete redefined around WW2, coincidentally once Karen Horney had been poisoning the well with her feminist superiority psychology across America.
To be fair, a dirty little secret is that the vast majority of people don't have the ability to actually sympathize either, which is why it got its bastardized watered down definition of "I feel bad that you feel bad". But being able to actually place yourself in someone else's shoes, understand their point of view, how they arrived at it, why it seems right to them, what data led them to that conclusion, etc is a skill that I would wager less than 5% of humans actually have. Virtually everyone is only able to view the world through the lens of their own experience, even if they think they can do otherwise.
The dirtier secret is that men are better at empathy than women due to their solipsistic nature.
Men are better at literally everything on earth except for raising children from birth until about 4 years old. Even after that age, fathers are better than mothers at raising kids.
I think most people can sympathize, but its not an absolving feeling either. I can sympathize with the hard life a single mom is going through. This doesn't mean I approve of her actions nor believe that the blame isn't still squarely on her regardless. I'm certain almost anyone can manage that level of sympathy, as its basic human morality.
But that's what people want. They want your positive emotions, but without any judgement. Which is what "empathy" means to them. Its a woman explaining how she cheated but wants you to think of her as a victim anyway and tell her her reasonings as valid.
Its pure woman logic behind the word.
Interestingly enough, the word "indo-european" didn't start appearing until after WWII. They used to use the word "aryan" dating all the way back to the sumerians
You could probably spend a lifetime going through the list of all the deliberate cultural engineering done under the shadow of WW2. Most of which has been bred so deep into our minds that we'd not even think to question it.
It’s a linguistic term dating back centuries.
Einfühlung.
But there is a valuable distinction to be drawn between feeling others’ pain and understanding that others feel pain.
There is, but I don't think the majority of people who ever utter the word "empathy" could even fathom it.
I can assure you that they care about themselves and only themselves.
Ah, you are aware. But it's not even their side, like it's not their opinions. They've been conscripted into the side of the establishment with propaganda. We give them too much credit by pretending that they have empathy, a side, or opinions.
You think we can reprogram them to just be non violent passive NPCs then? This current patch is just broken..
Absolutely. They worship power and will obey what power tells them. That said, they are passive as it is, because they're simply following instructions. Ingsocians were not active simply because they shook their fists at Goldstein for two minutes when they were told to.
"We've killed the energy infrastructure for the UK permanently! The whole of Britain will be powered by solar farms with cloudy skies and an a density of wind farms greater in density than the number of Pakistani child rapists in Rotherham! CRY HARDER REPUBLITURDS"
Britain must be liberated from these savages by any means available to us.
It also ignores that most of Europe is actually behind the US on green tech. But that is because Americans typically care about energy, not political correctness around energy, so we will still produce oil and gas and then find ways to make both cleaner while also investing in wind farms and solar panels.
It is why my home state of Kansas can get 40% of its power from wind turbines and not have to worry about blackouts (because the gas turbines can cover the slow days). It is also why the US is one of the only Western nations that decreased their CO2 emissions at the same time Europe was still increasing even though they virtue signal so hard about their green stances (compared to Americans screaming "Drill, baby, drill!").
Wind turbines are a net loss after running numbers on their costs and the cost of constantly firing up coal plants to cover their weak periods.
I suppose being literally flatter than a pancake makes Kansas actually ideal for wind turbines.
America is a big diverse land, it has prime locations for basically every type of energy production and if everyone got on the same page in government we could probably make massive strides in it by investing in all of them.
But instead we do things like Dam up the Colorado River to ship it off to California to prevent them from literally dying based on some ancient agreement, and let all that hydropower go to waste.
We have a tradition of wind power dating back to our founding for a reason.
Which is why there is also a surprising amount of Dutch-designed mills dating back to the 1800's here.
Yup, that makes perfect sense. Wasn't it also the settlement of a large number of Germans?
It is definitely overwhelmingly Germans/Prussians (as Kansas has a similar climate and geography to eastern Germany, almost 35% of the state has this lineage). But there was/are sizable amounts of Swedes, Dutch, Irish, English, and French. And in recent years, it is a lot of Mexicans, Guatemalans, and Vietnamese.
Another interesting one to note is the so called "Exodusters" communities, where were founded by former slaves from the South who didnt believe the US Governments claims of "40 acres and a mule", and were brought to better land by other blacks like Booker T. Washington to start building new communities in new land doing what they knew how to do already until they could build themselves up.
Stop making me want to move to Kansas.
That history all sounds great except for the recent events.
France gets most of its electricity from nuclear, which is a far better source of power than these ridiculous wind and solar - of which anything more than a token number is not cost-effective. It also happens to be cleaner.
You wouldn't believe how many people in Europe scream about Drumpf withdrawing from the Paris climate accord. It's the one thing that people who don't dislike him dislike. While the insanity of Europeans is grossly overestimated in America, one place where it's underestimated is the whole 'climate change' thing. And I say that as someone who thinks that it's real and in significant part caused by human activity.
True, but they are the exception rather than the rule. The UK only just now is starting to talk about nuclear after blowing it off for decades, and I dont think I need to tell you about the unhinged self own that is Germany's nuclear situation. And furthermore, the one that really yanks my chain is that they did finally start admitting they needed gas turbines to make it work, but for entirely political reasons they utterly refuse to buy American gas, to the point they still try to find ways around their own sanctions to get Russian gas to offset what Norway cant fulfill. And when Trump told them this would be a problem, they laughed at him (a moment that will forever live rent free in my head as a sign of "European Arrogance").
I guess to be fair though, the US is also behind the ball on nuclear and only recently has been making moves to increase its use (one of the few topics of bipartisanship between Biden and Trump). But we have at least made up for it with widespread adaption of gas to the point it is even replacing oil in some cases.
Yeah, agreed. I have no problem admitting climate change is influenced by human behavior, and even if it isnt getting rid of pollution is a good thing. But I (and I think most Americans) have an issue with the solutions rather than the issue itself. And the Europeans and their attitude is why I have long described myself as a conservationist rather than an environmentalist, because sometimes the actually good for the environment and humanity option is to drill the oil and use it.
On a related note, I do find it funny that so many Europeans seem to treat America as some desolate hellscape compared to them, yet like I pointed out we are the one actually reducing our pollution output in comparison, and there are very few equivalents to the National Park Service or Forestry Service that the US has in Europe (both of which are some of the only universally popular parts of the US government).
Quite merciful of you.
Although you always need to keep into account that what seems like a bad decision from the POV of public interest may be very good from the self-interest of the parties involved. E.g. the German environmentalists were bribed by Gazprom to support the Nord Stream pipeline. Their argument was that given that nuclear is a no-go for them, natural gas would be needed for the transition to supposedly clean sources of energy.
I'm not sure what you're talking about. What I see is Germany and the rest of Europe committing economic suicide by buying heavily marked-up American LNG, instead of cheap Russian natural gas... and that was before the imperial puppet ceased the transit of all Russian natural gas entirely.
Remember that this is a 'country' that didn't raise a peep of protest or even comment when its critical infrastructure was targeted by sabotage and terrorism by the US. They are puppets.
Let's be real, Trump was wrong. He was trying to foist expensive American energy on Europe vs. cheap Russian energy. It's good for you. It's very bad for us. But the interests of the mercillessly exploited periphery doesn't matter much to the imperial center.
And that is why I am more enthusiastic about replacing coal with natural gas than with replacing natural gas by so called 'renewables' - even if it were practical.
When Greece was conquered by Rome, they had to pull up their noses for Rome, because otherwise they'd have nothing. All things considered, I'd rather live in Europe than in the US, but that may be because I've always lived here.
They don't care. They care about symbolism. Or rather, they care about what they're told to care about, which are solely symbolic things. With immigration, they experience in their daily lives that it is a disaster, so they don't buy what they are told - contrary to what Americans here will tell you, even leftists Europeans generally aren't PC. With climate change, they don't know much, so it's easy to buy into hypes that are in the media or ambient.
That last sentence makes you sound gay.
Well, substantiate it.
They can do it themselves or die out. And they're choosing the latter.
We're only about 10% of the world's population, and shrinking. The time is coming where we stand together or let ourselves continue to go extinct.
Letting retards live is how we got to this point.
Decadence is how we got to this point. And you're not far behind, unfortunately.
They chose wrong. At a certain point, we are the hegemon, they are our cousins, and their choice was irreconcilable with human civilization. Thus, their choice must be corrected.
Not a very Libertarian thing for me to say, but when your choice demands the violation of the NAP against the defenseless, I don't think any autistic lolbert arguments are persuasive.
I’ve been told this doesn’t matter.
By you.
It's pretty funny he's trying to act like he gives a shit about White people acting in their interest.
He didn't mention "White" [sic] people.
He did in another thread. Don't butt in if you don't have context.
You're making the claim about this thread, that he's trying to act like this or that. But you're obviously wrong, as he's not talking about white people at all.
I don't remember the context of this conversation. I assume that, like always, you ignore everything I said and made up your own context, and are now misapplying it here.
See, child rape is bad, m'kay? I don't really care whether or not you like the English. I don't care whether you consider them Capital W White or not. I don't care if you think of them as cousins or as an intractable foe.
The mass child rape is a problem that is so extreme it is an anathema to civilization and a crime against humanity. I don't really care what post-hoc rationalization you are making to respond to institutionally supported mass child rape as a weapon of conquest with "good", but no, it's not good.
I guess I just want to reach out to whatever sliver of humanity you have left to try and convince you that no: not good.
Dude, that's what you do in nearly all of your long-winded slap fights.
Bullshit. More than anything, my problem is being easily distracted by new arguments in order to change the context of the argument at had.
Like how you're pushing me to defend myself with this distraction, rather than focusing back on the fact that child rape is bad, and stopping it is good, even someone is pursuing the end of child rape for self-serving reasons.
It'd be pretty easy for you to not get distracted by them if you stopped bringing new ones up.
They're constantly choosing not to act. If they want to kill themselves and let their kids get raped, we're better off without them in the gene pool. They're just pissing in it, along with the Muslims.
Stop trying to fracture us even more. If you hate a member of the European races just say so.
I hate retards and don't want to support them. Europe voted for this shit, and hasn't stopped it. They need to do something themselves. They aren't, so they aren't worth saving.
As if there is a voting choice.
Then sack up and do something.
This was never an issue until 1997. The English are occupied by people that hate them. That's not a good enough reason not to try and help.
Why would Elon Musk, the Solar Home and electric car guy, give a shit about Europoors energy?
Eurofags really do live in another reality.
Freezing and starving in the dark while migrants rape your children. This is the future the British Empire died for.
Britain has no value to the US. They are the dead. I would not send a valuable american life to save the cuckistanians - only to confiscate their nuclear devices to deny the inevitable islamic state nuclear weaponry.
I reject this out-right, and I will not cede ground to the Mohammedians, when we didn't cede Spain either (and that took 400 years).
It's not our ground to cede, the brits were our enemy for longer than they've been an "ally " (parasite) and our government would never actually win that war, only waste lives pointlessly like the last 20 years.
Destroying the jihadis is a different conversation than saving the brits, too. If we were actually going to do it, the former is good policy. The latter is a waste of time. We don't want them as a state and allowing them self governance leads to their current problems. The britfags sending agents to meddle in our elections recently also marks them as hostile.
Britain was only an "enemy" for a few decades. The Special Relationship has been going on for 130 years or so.
I don't think there is a difference between destroying Jihadism and saving Britain.
And yes, the Labour Party is the enemy, obviously. But not all random British people.
Britain was not our ally until we bailed them out in the world wars. They were a threat the entire 19th century and have provided net negative value as an ally. Their government is corrupt - so is ours. We have million strong protests against government corruption and threats of rebellion frequently. They roll over and beg to be stepped on by their "lords". Their nation is culturally dead and all that's left is the willing serfs. They have no value. I will not support spending the lives of my people on serfs that will never stand for themselves - either we save them and they let it happen again, and again, or we conquer them and they bring negative value culturally because they are cowardly serfs.
British people that want to live free can pick their shit up and move (all ten of them left).
They have been our vassal since the 2nd World War, and The Special Relationship starts in the late 1800's.
I'm not saying invade Britain. I'm saying help them.
They'll never stand for themselves - the only way to save them would be to essentially invade. You could call it many things, but american troops fighting in bongistan would be an invasion.
Who's this "we" business? You're suddenly taking the White collectivist position?
What? No.
I'm talking about the West generally.
You're a race communist. I don't even consider you part of the West.
Who you consider part of the West is irrelevant.
Pot kettle, fagbot. Go be a gay race commie on the gay race commie board you came from.
Your magic words are ineffective.
R/Europe are the ones raping the kids probably. Why do you think they'd care?
This is precisely why it is okay to support Elon in calling out the mass, institutionally supported, rape of children as a hate crime. Even if it's disingenuous virtue signaling, the apologetics for child rape that has been normalized is a crime against humanity.
We need a way to separate the "good" things jews say from the bad. They always worm their way in by siding with us, before trying to use us as their pawns or cattle. If we could use the momentum of their words which help us, but deny their tactics which harm us, we may gain something.
But then this is akin to making a deal with the devil. Maybe we could deny them first? Say something like:
"Even the genocidal jews can see mass raping young girls is bad."
How did you manage to connect this to the Jews?
He admits he's at least aspirationally jewish, but doesn't admit being a racial jew.
https://www.thejc.com/news/elon-musk-im-aspirationally-jewish-and-pro-semitic-vje4j531
He went to jewish school when young, first name is jewish, etc. Aspriationally jewish means he works for them and their culture.
Ironically, I have lots of first-hand experience with jews. I went to jewish school when young since family converted after I was born. But, I noticed the lies and inconsistencies young and rejected jewry. Even at 13 I realized I had to live honestly and in the light, so I refused to convert and got basically excommunicated from the society I was living in. I'd be willing to discuss more with you if you're interested.
Admits?
He's clearly trying to defend himself against unfounded accusations.
Wait till you find out where 'Mike', 'Joe' and other Amerimutt names come from.
LOL. He works for them? You got all that from him telling Ben Shapiro that despite MSM smears, he doesn't hate the Jews?
Well, I'm sorry for your family and your bodily integrity. One thing I don't understand is people who convert to Judaism, or Islam for that matter. What?
This does make it more understandable. This is basically the Judaism equivalent of the Reddit r-atheism people who really hate Christianity because they were raised in the religion.
The thing is, it's one thing to reject a religion, and quite another to have racial hatred for people. One is defensible, the other is not. And if you step out of your bubble for just one moment, you will probably realize that using such phrases as "the genocidal Jews" will to everyone make you appear as though you are completely whacked in the head... especially when you're not even talking about a Jew!
I think you are an Israeli agent, a jew, or a fool. You claim lies about me to try and discredit me. I see your tactics and they aren't working.
Why not all three? Israel doesn't recruit fools as agents?
My friend, you don't need discrediting. Also, I don't claim "lies" about you. I didn't say anything about you at all.
I'll report back to Mossad that my orders to stop the Cattle Goyim from using 'the genocidal Jews' failed. Crap! He didn't buy my claim that it makes him look nuts. He will continue to use this silver bullet of an argument, and totally destroy Israel...
He sounds like that retard that told me I must be a jew because I hate Islam
Calling everyone under the sun who doesn't want to gas the Jews a 'Jew' is the least stupid thing these people do.
Lol i don't even like Israel and left wing jews in America are a scourge but apparently you gotta deep throat Mohammed or you're Jewish
You are a one note robot. You get halfway to acknowledging that human beings are capable of individual thought, not collective hivemind ants, in your post and then pivot straight back to "reee jews" low iq goblin posting.
You are the behavior you call jewish. And musk isn't even a jew, you retard.
I don't care who says mass child rape is bad. If the Hamas supporting jews demand an end to Pakistani Labour Rape Gangs, then I will say 'at least we agree on that'.
I don't think they read past the headline, to be 'fair.' I would also assume (perhaps wrongly) there would have been a separate post in the sub about the released rape figures.
Also also, tHaT wUz LiKe, A bUzZiLlIoN yEaRs AgO, bRuV. They likely believe the rape scandal is an irrelevant, political attack angle in the midst of a national power struggle.
In the immortal words of Joe Biden: that was like four days ago, five days ago.
Power is all that matters. It is naive to think that people would care about rape or child rape.
I stopped reading after the third post because it was all Orange Man Bad.
Their top post begins with: "Probably not related..." Pretty much admitting flat out the post is a distraction designed to turn the entire thread into a two-minute Trump-Elon hate.
he IS the government.
He has the explicit power to remove members from parliament. That makes him in charge.
You sure? He can dissolve parliament, but that doesn't remove members. It just means that new elections will be held.
Which is what Elon is hoping for, seeing that Nigel Farage's party is gaining traction in the polls.
Tbf, they're all pinko faggots who don't have kids, and jeets who want someone else's kids.
I didn't click but I assume I'm at least 85% correct.
R/Europe and practically all subs for European countries have long since been taken over by the predictable left-progressive lunatic crowd. They're all trigger-happy, stealth banning compulsive neurotics. And they all lean in the same political direction.
The entirety of Reddit is one big social engineering farm by Big Tech and you're the farm animals.
European-type environmentalism is mostly just a loud, performative suicide note.
R/Europe has been denying it since Rotherham broke
They’re disappointed that they weren’t the ones doing all the raping.
How DARE you embarrass our Stunning And Brave Globalist Fuckshit?!?!?