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R-Europe reacts to the news that their kids have been mass raped. See if you can find anyone concerned about the kids. (old.reddit.com)
posted 1 year ago by SophiesBoyfriend 1 year ago by SophiesBoyfriend +78 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

But that is because Americans typically care about energy, not political correctness around energy, so we will still produce oil and gas and then find ways to make both cleaner while also investing in wind farms and solar panels.

France gets most of its electricity from nuclear, which is a far better source of power than these ridiculous wind and solar - of which anything more than a token number is not cost-effective. It also happens to be cleaner.

It is also why the US is one of the only Western nations that decreased their CO2 emissions at the same time Europe was still increasing even though they virtue signal so hard about their green stances (compared to Americans screaming "Drill, baby, drill!").

You wouldn't believe how many people in Europe scream about Drumpf withdrawing from the Paris climate accord. It's the one thing that people who don't dislike him dislike. While the insanity of Europeans is grossly overestimated in America, one place where it's underestimated is the whole 'climate change' thing. And I say that as someone who thinks that it's real and in significant part caused by human activity.

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– TheModernDaVinci 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

France gets most of its electricity from nuclear, which is a far better source of power than these ridiculous wind and solar - of which anything more than a token number is not cost-effective. It also happens to be cleaner.

True, but they are the exception rather than the rule. The UK only just now is starting to talk about nuclear after blowing it off for decades, and I dont think I need to tell you about the unhinged self own that is Germany's nuclear situation. And furthermore, the one that really yanks my chain is that they did finally start admitting they needed gas turbines to make it work, but for entirely political reasons they utterly refuse to buy American gas, to the point they still try to find ways around their own sanctions to get Russian gas to offset what Norway cant fulfill. And when Trump told them this would be a problem, they laughed at him (a moment that will forever live rent free in my head as a sign of "European Arrogance").

I guess to be fair though, the US is also behind the ball on nuclear and only recently has been making moves to increase its use (one of the few topics of bipartisanship between Biden and Trump). But we have at least made up for it with widespread adaption of gas to the point it is even replacing oil in some cases.

While the insanity of Europeans is grossly overestimated in America, one place where it's underestimated is the whole 'climate change' thing. And I say that as someone who thinks that it's real and in significant part caused by human activity.

Yeah, agreed. I have no problem admitting climate change is influenced by human behavior, and even if it isnt getting rid of pollution is a good thing. But I (and I think most Americans) have an issue with the solutions rather than the issue itself. And the Europeans and their attitude is why I have long described myself as a conservationist rather than an environmentalist, because sometimes the actually good for the environment and humanity option is to drill the oil and use it.

On a related note, I do find it funny that so many Europeans seem to treat America as some desolate hellscape compared to them, yet like I pointed out we are the one actually reducing our pollution output in comparison, and there are very few equivalents to the National Park Service or Forestry Service that the US has in Europe (both of which are some of the only universally popular parts of the US government).

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

The UK only just now is starting to talk about nuclear after blowing it off for decades, and I dont think I need to tell you about the unhinged self own that is Germany's nuclear situation.

Quite merciful of you.

Although you always need to keep into account that what seems like a bad decision from the POV of public interest may be very good from the self-interest of the parties involved. E.g. the German environmentalists were bribed by Gazprom to support the Nord Stream pipeline. Their argument was that given that nuclear is a no-go for them, natural gas would be needed for the transition to supposedly clean sources of energy.

for entirely political reasons they utterly refuse to buy American gas, to the point they still try to find ways around their own sanctions to get Russian gas to offset what Norway cant fulfill.

I'm not sure what you're talking about. What I see is Germany and the rest of Europe committing economic suicide by buying heavily marked-up American LNG, instead of cheap Russian natural gas... and that was before the imperial puppet ceased the transit of all Russian natural gas entirely.

Remember that this is a 'country' that didn't raise a peep of protest or even comment when its critical infrastructure was targeted by sabotage and terrorism by the US. They are puppets.

And when Trump told them this would be a problem, they laughed at him (a moment that will forever live rent free in my head as a sign of "European Arrogance").

Let's be real, Trump was wrong. He was trying to foist expensive American energy on Europe vs. cheap Russian energy. It's good for you. It's very bad for us. But the interests of the mercillessly exploited periphery doesn't matter much to the imperial center.

I have no problem admitting climate change is influenced by human behavior, and even if it isnt getting rid of pollution is a good thing.

And that is why I am more enthusiastic about replacing coal with natural gas than with replacing natural gas by so called 'renewables' - even if it were practical.

I do find it funny that so many Europeans seem to treat America as some desolate hellscape compared to them

When Greece was conquered by Rome, they had to pull up their noses for Rome, because otherwise they'd have nothing. All things considered, I'd rather live in Europe than in the US, but that may be because I've always lived here.

yet like I pointed out we are the one actually reducing our pollution output in comparison

They don't care. They care about symbolism. Or rather, they care about what they're told to care about, which are solely symbolic things. With immigration, they experience in their daily lives that it is a disaster, so they don't buy what they are told - contrary to what Americans here will tell you, even leftists Europeans generally aren't PC. With climate change, they don't know much, so it's easy to buy into hypes that are in the media or ambient.

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– covok48 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

That last sentence makes you sound gay.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Well, substantiate it.

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