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They're really trying to push ana kasparian to the right arent they (twitter.com)
posted 1 year ago by evilplushie 1 year ago by evilplushie +77 / -0
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– Kienan 36 points 1 year ago +36 / -0

Which I love. I'm no fan of Ana, and I don't feel any need for her to be on my side of any argument...but I'll certainly still take it, because it's funny as hell.

I'm fully in favor, for meme value alone.

Also, not sure what it says about the Young Turks, one of the top leftist channels, when they keep churning out dissidents. Jimmy Dore was on TYT too, and is now probably considered 'far right' by the lunatics who watch TYT.

We just need Chunk, for full meme value.

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– exarch 27 points 1 year ago +27 / -0

probably considered 'far right'

Everyone who isn’t a leftist is called “far right”

I heard some retard in a bar ranting about politics and he called Dr Phil “far right” so I asked him for an example of someone who is on the right but not far right. It was as if he couldn’t even understand the question.

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– AcidOverlord 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

I use a variant of this to short circuit some NPCs. "Give me a couple policies that are explicitly right wing, but not far right."

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– MargarineMongoose 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

They'll probably just hamster it by saying that the entire right has become far right and refuse to acknowledge the existence of a moderate right, be it past, present, or future.

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– AntonioOfVenice 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Everyone who isn’t a leftist is called “far right”

Way back when, on Reddit, I supported Hillary Clinton (like most idiots here in Europe) but said that Trump supporters should not be assaulted. They called me a Nazi for that.

Meanwhile, Trump supporters sent me messages saying they understood I was not pro-Trump but thanking me.

It should be obvious to everyone who the good guys and the bad guys are.

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– I_Bent_My_Wookiee 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

Jimmy Dore, Dave Rubin and now, Ana Kasparian. Chunk has a way of driving people to the right with his pompous bloviating

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– Dialectic 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

She probably had to choose from leaning right or starting an onlyfans to pay bills

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– TheMerleOfHaggard 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

I feel like this is probably the most correct idea. Their viewers dropping hard in the last 3 years. Going 'right' gets you an instant social media bump. If she starts promoting gold and health supplements the transition will be complete.

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– Ender910 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I dunno, much as I am loath to give any positive feedback on TYT, back during the Hillary-Trump election there were a few reporters (Bernie supporters) who were just tearing into Hillary with their questions and investigations.

Which doesn't exactly clarify what their general political or ideological angle is, other than for that it adds to a history of at the very least being very much against the establishment left (which is still very much calling the shots today).

Also reminds me of how, if we didn't have such conflicting views on what solutions to pursue, both political extremes could conceivably overpower, knock out, and oust out a lot of corruption in the current establishment of both mainstream parties. In a more ideal world anyway. Which of course leads us back to the post-Occupy Wallstreet response theory.

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– subbookkeeper 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

I was listening to Jimmy Dore on Tucker recently, he's essentially a left wing Alex Jones.

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– Kienan 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

I like Jimmy because it's good to get the other perspective, but from someone who is sane. There's tons of stuff I disagree with him on, but I can at least see where he's coming from, even if I think he's wrong. Sane leftists are rare. And, as mentioned, hilariously get lumped in with the Far Right.

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– SR388-SAX 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Exactly.

He talks about the news and tells the fucking truth and does it in a humorous way.

I roll my eyes when he goes on yet another, "this gigantic failure of government and corporate corruption is why we need socialism!" but at least he doesn't simply ignore that the corruption is happening.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

It's not left vs. right, it's the people at the top (and their useful idiots) vs. the rest of us.

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– deleted 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0
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– GoofTroop186 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Sometimes he sticks to his bits to the detriment of the like perception of his sanity, but he’s got a great show going

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– Gizortnik 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

The TYT reaction to the election is probably going to get good. Especially if Anna goes from telling the right "I'm better than you", to telling the Left "I told you so!"

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– Gizortnik 28 points 1 year ago +28 / -0

Literally none of that is a true description of Fascism.

Fascism explicitly bans a militarized citizenry. Only the politically favored members of the party enforcers are allowed to have weapons in order to ensure that rebellion doesn't occur.

Fascism explicitly doesn't eliminate governing bodies. It requires that anyone in government be a member of the party, and the party governs all politics internally, but legislatures and judiciaries still exist, but only with party members that are towing the party line.

Fascism explicitly does not call for a master race. Fascism, assuming we take it out of it's primarily Italian context, is a Civic Nationalist construct. In Italy, this was the idea that regardless of ethnicity, anyone within the Italian Fascist state was Italian, this includes jews, and about 45,000 of them were directly members of Italy's Fascist Party.

The concept of a "master race" really only existed under German National Socialism. And even that was a reference to the Aryan race, which didn't really exist anymore under the understanding of Aryanism, where Aryans are a hyperborean race that founded Atlantis, this is why they were a "master" race. It would be better to frame the Aryans as a "Precursor" or "Forerunner" race. The reason they're called "master" is based on the misapplication of Nietzsche's description of a Master Morality, and claiming that the Aryan precursor race would have required a Master Morality. Hence, a Master Race. The point is, you don't really see it in Italian Fascism, Spanish Falangism, the Portuguese Estado Novo, or Japanese Militarism. It's a very particular German concept. You do see something like it in Black National Socialism (because W.E.B. DuBois was a race communist that tried to appropriate the Volkish movement for his own purposes). This is why you see so many Black National Socialists espousing retarded "Wakanda" and "Yakub" nonsense.

Even with all that being said, German National Socialism pushes mostly for deportations of non-Germanic races within a National Socialist state (excluding Jewish Germans who are part of a bourgeoise race that need to be exterminated wholly, and Gypsies who won't go anywhere and won't "synchronize" with the German nation). Where this becomes extermination (of non-Jews and non-Gypsies) is when Germany's Socialist economy fucks up food production, gives itself a famine, and then choses to intentionally starve occupied territories rather than let any Germans go hungry; including among Greeks, Poles, and Slavs who are considered inferior races anyway.

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– exarch 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

Interesting writeup. It's always been weird to me that fascism is associated with nazis and not with the italians who invented it.

Something I learned recently: the chair the Lincoln sits on in his memorial monument is made of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasces

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– Adamrises 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

It's always been weird to me that fascism is associated with nazis and not with the italians who invented it.

That's because people who discuss WW2 in such simplistic and accusatory tones don't actually know shit about it, and probably couldn't even name Italy as a major part of the Axis powers, if they even knew that name.

They just know nazi=bad and fascism=bad so nazi=fascist, and that's basically their entire belief system.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

it's the generation raised on Star Wars, Marvel slop, Harry Potter, Pokemon, etc. the world is made up of good guys and bad guys, and bad guys must always be fought. no need to understand why the bad guys are bad, or why they even do what they do.

it poisons our history classes too. through Middle School and high school, I remember being taught that we rebelled against the British because the British were bad. we defeated the Confederates because the Confederates were bad. we defeated the Nazis because the Nazis were bad (no need to pay attention to weimar Germany!). Every explanation for why the bad guys did the bad things they did was because they were bad.

hardly anyone focuses on what drove people to do bad things in the first place, or why the things they do are even bad. I firmly believe this key missing piece is why history keeps repeating itself.

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– Theacefospades 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

What's double weird is that that's one of their favorite themes when they can use it for subversion.

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– Adamrises 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

What's funny is that in all the examples you listed, I can think of clear examples of "good guys doing bad things" that get called out for it and even "bad guys doing good things" and showing to be misguided and in need of help.

Shit that's the entire story of Pokemon Black and White (ironic naming), that bad guys use good and worthy ideas ideas to recruit naive people to help their evil plans and then discard them.

Which shows that even the guys who scream "media literacy" don't know shit about their own nonsense.

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– yeldarb1983 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Fun fact: linguistically speaking, all fascists are faggots.

Language is fun sometimes.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

That's correct. The Fasces was always understood as a symbol of collectivism, but prior to the early 20th century, it had no negative connotation. In the US the fasci was actually a common symbol for American collectivism, and a lot of collectivists in the Progressive era used it repeatedly. It used to be on the US Dime.

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– BollocksToBolsheviks 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I've been waiting for years for urinalists to start griping about the huge pair of fasces on either side of the American flag behind the Speaker's Well in the US House of Representatives.

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– Ender910 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I'd chock it up to the usual dumbassery that could be expected from the average war-time propaganda. Rushed propaganda that's at least partially fueled via guilt by association.

We saw a lot of the same shit play out on repeat with leftists targeting anyone and anything connected with Russia. Except when the Soviet Union comes up of course. Then Communists have to do a will check saving throw for confusion.

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– realerfunction 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

lincoln needs to be demolished and replaced with a standing statue. you ain't zeus, bitch. stand up.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

lincoln needs to be demolished

FTFY

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– Sumsuch 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Fascism, as it was taught in ancient times while I was in school, was described as the same people running both the government and the economy. Little wonder why they keep trying so hard to redefine such a thing these days.

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– LastRights 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0

Not really. Kasparian is a holier-than-thou and better-than-thou personality. She's just asserting her 'natural superiority' over other people. This chick is, of course, superior to no one, with her amateur hour left-progressive 'yer the racist!' temper tantrums and histrionic outbursts.

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– AnAmishWithATude 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

Fascism requires a militarized citizenry

???

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Possibly referring to the SA and the Brownshirts.

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– subbookkeeper 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

"Fascism" as a political topic is bizarre. I can understand a topic like marxism or communism having a woolly definition as it's been around for hundreds of years/millions of dead, and had multiple "versions" and "updates" each 100 mil dead or so.

But fascism is literally a 6page pamphlet explaining what it is. "The Doctrine of Fascism" takes about 10 minutes to read, it's the state being the ultimate arbiter or everything, literally nothing outside of the state.

If you think of the political quadrant, it's not so much left or right, as it is the entire top border of it.

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– Hellsbells00 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

The political quadrant bullshit is a scam to push horseshoe theory.

There is no left wing libertarianism. There is no right wing socialism. Those are fundamentally opposing concepts. The left and right is statism vs anarchism and everything in between. Aka an actual measurable scale, no culturally relative moral bullshit - just "more state" vs "less state".

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– ModsAreAIDS 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

The left and right is statism vs anarchism

Or collectivism vs individualism.

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– nuggetpatrol 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

You don't really go right, you just get pushed continually more and more that way by everyone.

Then when you're there, you get to see the left for what it truly is.

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– blyat56 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Nah. We don't need any more leftist women trying to grift their way into the right. You picked your leopard, it ate your face, get fucked.

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– OmegaBird 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

None of those things are fascism. A demilitarized population with extreme government overreach and control that dictates accepted speech is fascism.

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– deleted 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0
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– Hellsbells00 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

You are a mongoloid retard. That is an absolutely pointless, empty "(insert enemy here) bad" propaganda line. If you can't make real posts like a real human and not a fed, then shut up.

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– deleted 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0
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– Hellsbells00 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I'm a federal disinfo agent

Yes.

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– RoulerBleu 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Is this another instance of ''a Liberal is a Conservative who hasen't been mugged yet''?

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– current_horror 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

I think it’s more “woman who helped create hard times doesn’t enjoy hard times”.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

She was sexually battered by two random homeless people, and was attacked for racism and slandering "our unhoused neighbors" for complaining about it (the attackers were white and were not punished).

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– acp_k2win 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Women can't be "right wing" because a woman having political opinions is a revolutionary concept.

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– deleted 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0
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– Hellsbells00 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

It is important to enforce the fact that words have meanings that cannot be changed by faggots.

You would allow for more of the corruption of language that turns politics into screaming retard soup to be easily manipulated by the globalists.

Rethink that.

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– Guy_Incognito76 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Classic "liberal mugged by reality."

There's a trailer park near my house overflowing with Trump signs. In theory those people should all be democrats. I feel like the existing parties are going to collapse into just locals vs. Globalists.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

The left is alienating people. Take the W.

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