Or rather why do people care about Hamas at all? Their activities are contained in the Middle East, they aren't the West's problem, , they are mostly israel's problem and their main goal is to get Palestinian land back , so they are mostly Palestinian nationalists. Im not sure what is the problem with that exactly. The only people who should logically have a problem with hamas are israeli shills but even they should only really blame themselves because Netenyahu admitted that he helped to fund hamas.
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Because they’re mortal enemies of oUr GrEaTeSt AlLy.
But yes, in reality, we should let them annihilate each other and then probably throw a party when it’s over.
Normal people don't, jews do. Because they stand in the way of israel's territorial ambitions.
Oh I don't give a shit at all, only reason I even consider the middle east at all is three reasons:
Oil
Architecture, there's still some ancient buildings and ruins the Muslims haven't blown up
If we could get some Whites to go full crusader and take the land over but colonise it to turn desert areas into produce providing land like they did in Africa.
Hamas isn't even in the equation of that so I really don't give a shit if Israel nukes them at this point.
Every conflict there means more migrants moving in the west.
It's why I promote guarding the West's borders with automotive turrets like they have in South Korea and predator drones for the Mediterranean.
They don't move to the west if you just shoot them when they show up at your border.
Hamas in particular? Couldn't care less.
Islam in general? Inarguably evil, not to mention guilty of crimes against Western Civilization for the last fourteen centuries.
In fact that's a big part of why my official position on this conflict can be summed up as "raucous laughter". Because the two greatest enemies of Christendom are busily killing each other, while trying to strike noble poses and act aggrieved all the while. Crocodile tears and performative bullshit.
I hate both sides, I hate how we are pushed in some retarded conflict I have NOTHING in common with. I am not pro Israel, nor pro Palestinian or hamas or what the fuck ever, leave me out of this. That's why I don't like them and everyone else in that region.
So I can actually break this down. Years ago I did a big study on the tech and tactics used by Islamic militants (and others) around the world as a research project, which led to learning basically everything else about them too.
The two most important ME militant groups are Hamas and Hezbollah. But to understand why Hamas is "hated" I'll compare and contrast the two.
Hezbollah: Functions and organized like a small, but professional army. Recruitment, uniforms, budget, access to modern weapons, and makes a reasonable effort to follow the international rules of warfare. They basically function like Lebanon's de-facto National Guard, working alongside and complimenting their existing army and usually following the orders of its government whern told to do or not to do something. Notably while they're quite active (and effective) in actually conducting operations against muh Israel, they do so like a professional army. When Israel attacked Lebanon back in 2006, Hez fucked them up pretty good, doing more damage than the actual Lebanese army did and forcing the Israelis to withdraw much earlier than they had planned. Because of this Israel hates their guts and is desperate to paint them with the same brush as Hamas so the world will help destroy them.
Hamas on the other hand: These guys are almost a mirror of the 1970s IRA. They're small, pretty unprofessional, and fight dirty. They don't function like a cohesive force but rather a loose network of cells made up of friends and relatives, and so the right hand often doesn't know what the left hand is doing, and there's no central authority who can truly control all of them beyond going on TV and asking them nicely. If your cell wants to fight clean against Israeli military targets but Ahkmed down the block's cell wants to go all out suicide bombing civilians, you're both still "Hamas" and you're both despised by most of the world because of Ahkmed. Hamas's political "organization" does everything from collecting the garbage off your street to delivering your mail (and ran for, and won, the election for government in Palestine), but other parts of it are out there shooting anti-tank missiles at school busses (literally happened) whether their government likes it or not, so the whole group gets written off as terrorists. Hamas also has the problem if being trapped in a walled off open-air prison, so most of their weapons are whatever shit they can cobble together out of whats lying around. Much gets made of their constant rocket attacks, but nobody ever mentions that they're using perfectly valid tactics suited to the World War 1-2 level of their tech. "Haifa is a military port? Shoot 10,000 rockets at its direction and hope one hits something important to their military." WW2 Russia would shed a tear of pride. Someone who wanted to could easily draw a distinction between the "legitimate" Hamas and the "evil" Hamas, but that doesn't serve anybody's political purposes so it never happens.
The comments here tell the story pretty well. Amazing thread, well done, OP.
It really is amazing how deranged some of these people are, and how indistinguishable from parody. It's why that one "pro" Israel troll, the name sadly escapes me, was my favorite; that guy who'd go on - right after the weird NY Jew tunnels - about how Muslims were "tunnelers" and stuff. He'd just take everything, and flip it around to blame everyone else.
It was obvious parody (I hope!), but was practically indistinguishable from how some of these people behave.
Gopower followed by some numbers.
Right, good ol' Gopower.
I've actually never heard anyone else in RL talk about Hamas. The internet blew up for a bit after Oct 7th but otherwise I think most normal people stopped caring shortly afterward.
because the situation is a mess, and declaring someone an enemy is easier than trying to figure shit out, especially when you're not the one who will have to do the fighting.
they're fundamentalists, and their extremists do oppose some western values, even the real western values, not just the woke ones.
they have reasons to be hostile to the west because of the west's support to Israel(and the resulting acts of hostility).
that support seems to result in a general strategy of keeping the Muslim world divided. often through active, violent and not really covert interference.
some Muslim extremists are expansionists, believing the world should submit to their way of life. the divide-and-conquer strategy often encourages these groups, as they tend to also fight other middle eastern powers.
if extremism happens to result in terror events in the west, it constitutes a good excuse to roll back those pesky constitutional barriers we have.
hence migration from those territories into the west is encouraged, in order to increase the chance of the terror event proc. Which would, as an added bonus, increase hostility towards muslims, and support for their current big enemy. creating a positive feedback loop into some of the previous points.
so yeah, building a big beautiful wall around the whole region, and letting yhem sort it out without further interference, would probably be to almost everyone's benefit.
I don't really care about Hamas except inasmuch as there are rabid leftists and some of the rapefugees we let in that I'm sure would attack people in Hamas' name in the right circumstances. Of course, I don't really doubt that Israel would be willing to false flag a Hamas attack on the US in the right circumstances, either.
Basically, both Israel and Hamas are potential problems that I would love to ignore but can't entirely. One is probably worse than the other, though.
My hatred of them is directly proportional to how many munitions they are firing at my friend when he is deployed. He's currently state side so I no longer give a fuck about Hamas. This same principle applies to all the other Muslim bandit groups that keep showing up in the news.
The simple solution is for us to just not be in the middle east making trouble. Everybody wins.
I'd be mad too if my next door neighbor blew my house up and killed my family. Anything Hamas does is justified retaliation against Israel for their crimes.
I just want Israel and Palestine to wipe each other out. Same with India and China.
Because the PLO is an international terror organization that wants to literally bring the Final Prophet to unify the world under Islam, one way or the other (and they prefer 'the other').
There's no "Palestinian People before the 60's. It's just a name they came up with. If they are real, they live in Jordan, which is their half of the division of Trans-Jordan aka Judea.
Because they blow up kids.
I have some bad news for you Tony, you're gonna need to become a lot more hateful if that's your standard. Do you have room for that much hate in your heart?
Chad Yes
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For the most part this just a bad faith 'baby bird' post, where OP is pretending he doesn't know anything about Hamas while supporting them.
im pretty sure my main point was that hama's are not the West's problem so we shouldn't care about them at all. But sure go ahead and keep trying to mind read people. We already know you have a pro jew bias.
Wow, I gotta say I did Nazi this coming.
Because they're Leftist, genocidal, terrorists you stupid jew-hating faggot.
"Palestine" isn't a legitimate nation of people, it wasn't a nation before Israel either. It is a Leftist Pan-Arabist construct, no different from Black Nationalism in the US. The Palestinian Movement was constructed because Israel stopped supporting the USSR in the Cold War. That's all it is. Jordan has a better claim to the land of Israel than the "Palestinian" movement does. There is no Palestine, there is no Palestinian Nation. Show me a Jordanian Nationalist who wants to take over Israel, then we can talk about legit Nationalism.
Beyond that, they have always dedicated themselves to genocide. They engage in genocide. They explicitly support the mass murder of innocent civilians. They engage in the mass murder of civilians.
You're so blinded by your retarded jew-hatred, you literally can't see the threat that these people are to western countries, when western kids at universities are chanting "we are hamas!". Leftwing terrorism should not be given space to operate in the west.
But no no, you're right, there's no danger from Hamas. Leftwing terrorism is double-plus good now because it's killing innocent people you don't like. We gotta keep jihadist and takfirist immigration up as high as we possibly can to rape our kids and celebrate our public spaces with trucks of peace. We can fix the lame-stream media by letting Qatar run it. It's not white replacement if you convert the whites to Islam. That'll teach those dumb jooz.
You're no different from the retarded "Queers for Palestine" faggots who are stunned at the idea they won't be killed last.
“Everyone I hate is a leftist, but the people who vote 85% left wing and are wildly overrepresented in left wing movements and institutions are not.”
The problem with Muslims is that they are Muslims. But they don’t control American elections. AIPAC does.
---Gizortnik
Whites are over-represented in Leftist movements, and yet I still don't hate whites. So why would I hate jews for the same thing?
Are you sure? On either count?
There are four counts in that sentence. I guess you're wondering if Whites are over-represented in Leftism? Yes. Whites invented it. Specifically the French.
Out of curiosity, how would you characterize over-represented in this case?
From where I'm sitting we can use Democrat/Republican as a rough proxy for Left/Right and Whites are closer to a 50/50 split in that regard than other races, who tend to skew left to varying degrees.
You're doing Disparate Impact Theory backwards. You don't look at the population, and see it's breakdown. You take the percentage within the sub-category you are wining about, and you compare it to a population. That's the whole point of "despite being 13% of the population, blacks make up 51% of homicide offenders"
I'm going to ignore some major problems with the idea of using an American false political dichotomy to graft races onto, regardless of actual values aligning with those parties, and just focus on the population of Leftists themselves.
The majority of politically active and ideologically committed people that associate with Marxist descendent ideologies are going to be white. They're also going to be predominantly upper-middle to upper-class (so somewhere over $100,000 family income). The class segment is pretty traditional for the Left, though the elites of Leftism are certainly well within the upper class, even ones that seemed impoverished (like Marx & Stalin) were quite posh, and were just horrifically incontinent with money. Most Leftists would have lavish lifestyles if they weren't lazy and had "diarrhea of the wallet". Given how the protestors themselves are able to avoid problems with work scheduling, and are able to maintain and attend protests for weeks at a time, and even have no issues going to court afterwards, nor have issues paying bail, they are either significantly wealthy, or have significant funding. That should be more than enough to justify the class segment of Leftism being disproportionately wealthy.
As for disproportionately White, it's the same people. Especially at the higher echelons of leadership; most Leftist organizations are going to be headed by Whites, and then the vast number of Leftist-friendly captured institutions are going to be White as well. Marketing, Advertising, Public Relations, Finance, Telecom, IT, Science, Academia, Medicine, Government, etc., are all predominantly white industries.
In fact, there was an organization that was studying diversity (read: race control and displacement) within multiple industries. They were lamenting and celebrating different things in their reports. What they lamented was that C-Suite, Upper, and Upper-middle management were predominantly all the same racial mixture of mostly white, and that hadn't moved in several years of activism, despite almost universal support for the diversity (race control) programs in these very management sectors and industries. Instead, what the racialists were celebrating was that they had had massive success at lower and lower-middle management. Normally cutting white populations in all industries by 15-45% in only a few years.
The vast and sweeping majority of upper-class whites promised to purge lower class whites out of their jobs for the alleged crimes of their race, and succeeded. It was whites that approved the programs, and whites that approved the firing, and whites that complied, and whites that control the industries, and whites that continue to be the dominant race in all of these industries in the west.
This is something that you're just gonna have to accept. That's why I call them "Voluntary Sonderkommandos".
Keep making shit up as you go along idiot.
The history of Hamas & the PLO has always been explicitly, ideologically, Leftist.
It is not that everyone I hate is a Leftist. It is that I hate all Leftists. Your historical ignorance of leftwing causes and movements changes nothing. Perhaps you're gonna tell me that BLM isn't a Leftist organization either?
than you must really hate the vast majority of western jews, welcome to the club adolph
I hate Leftist jews because their Leftist. Now, go sit over there faggot, we're not friends.
hey if you are a jew that hates leftist jews you can’t be all that bad
Yet again, you still can't figure out that I'm not a jew.
To be fair, anyone who deepthroats that much jew jizz would show up as a jew on the jewdar.
They're wastes of oxygen.
They can't conceive of a world that isn't hyper focused on their jew fetish, because that's all they have in their lives.
Stopped reading here.
I don't care. I'm calling a spade a spade, and I don't care that I'm required by the rules of good internet conduct to assume that someone who believes that jews are an inherent racial enemy engaged in a vast racial conspiracy dedicated to ending civilization doesn't hate jews while I'm called a foreskin munching jew by said individual.
If being called a jew hater upsets him, and he'd rather be called a sophisticated, third-positions, intellectual; he should probably stop being a jew-hating freak. It shouldn't matter, it's a statement of fact. It's like calling him a racist, his answer is yes, so why cry about it?
I never understood this talking point. The most meaningful reality of "Palestine" is that it's a bunch of Arabs who lived there for 2000 years or more, whatever they call themselves.
They haven't lived there for 2000 years. That whole narrative is just false. Jews and Muslims haven't been in a perpetual civilizational war for thousands of years. It's been a war between jewish progressives and arab progressives for a about a century. Any violence before that was just standard violence than any separate community would find living in an Islamic state.
Of the people that have lived there, some are Syrian, some are Jordanian, some are Egyptian, some are Bedoin. All moved in and out at different times. But it was never a nation of people, and it isn't one now. Palestinians are as legit of a nationality as Queers are.
The Romans kicked out the Jews in 70 AD. My point is that people other than Jews have been living there ever since, up until recent Jewish settlement.
Whether they are a homogenous people is beside the point in my eyes. They have houses, and they don't like getting kicked out of them any more than the Jews who were booted from the Second Temple.
It's not like the jews didn't live in the same general area, so did the romans, so did the arabs. I'm not talking about what version of semitic they are. These populations just haven't been perfectly static
Yeah I know but that's kind of a minor point. I'm willing to grant that most of the people there don't have 2000 year long lineages, but they don't need to. Even the longest American lineages only go back 400 years.
2000 years ago the place was called Judea. Jews lived there centuries before islam was a thing.
Not when Hadrian got done with them.
Who do you think moved into the area after the Romans kicked out the Jews in 70 AD? I said 2000 years ago for a reason.
Ok buddy.
Americans aren't inherently Leftist.
Have you been under a rock?
Hamas has been running the United States government. The Social Justice Warriors are Hamas. Anti-Gamergate censoring the Internet is Hamas. Antifa is Hamas. "The Jews" are evil because they are sponsoring Hamas (on orders from the CIA). The Homos For Hamas are, obviously, Hamas. Hamas is not contained, they are everywhere.
That is going in the archive. I'm going to post it under every single one of your future posts because people deserve to know what the person they are arguing with believes.
Just like leftists (who are led by jews) call everything "nazis", the jews on the right are calling everything "Hamas". Really funny.
They are Hamas! Stop laughing and do some research!
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It would actually count as Harassment if you posted this on every single one of his posts. You're not doing it now, but if you carried it out and kept reply posting everything he does, that would count.
I not only believe it, I have proven it. Read the links and follow up with your own digging.
Thanks for the laugh. I needed that this morning.
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I think it's more of a stretch regarding what is effectively Leftism recognizing an ally in Hamas, and that Hamas allies (whom are Leftists) are doing all the other things. It's over-broadening the umbrella of Hamas, but it's mostly just an opinion, silly or otherwise.
I don't see it.
Because they're a bunch of goat raping terrorists who hate us, and will come after us next (ignore the sleeper agents that got let in out borders because half the US population is pro open borders).
i have yet to see any evidence that Hamas would come after us next. The Taliban didn't . They stayed in Afghanistan once they took over it. However israel HAS taken over tons of Western institutions and is a bigger problem than both Hamas and the Taliban.
I submit to you literally the entirety of history, where Islam is about taking over the world. New Somalia (sorry, Minnesota, for now) where they've started taking over nicely. Europe, with the trucks of peace and gentle stabbings. Etc.
You're so hyper fixated on "muh jews" it's not funny. It's just pathetic.
Who opened the gates of Toledo?
Who's instrumental in the flooding of the US with immigrants again? Oh right, the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society boasts about being instrumental in the passage of the 1965 immigration act and is vehemently open borders. A very Muslim organization.
The communist left. You can tell because the entire dnc platform enables it, and half the population votes for them.
The shortbus brigade rides again!
Better not look too closely at the leadership of the Russian and attempted German communist revolution.
yet it’s always the jews promoting immigration, no borders, multiculturalism, and diversity here in america and doing the exact opposite for israel
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Comment Approved: Doesn't do that yet. Just standard jew-hate pretending that different jews with different opinions in different places are actually the same one jew.
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Very possibly, but he may be simply ignorant. The Barbary Slave Trade is a valid example of Islam waging war against Christians, as it was a long time practice of the Barbary Islamic Caliphate. It was standard practice for centuries that all Islamic countries around the Mediterranean would kidnap, enslave, and castrate Kuffar (Christians) from Europe.
This aggression was religiously based in Islamic supremacism, and the US attempted to negotiate with the Caliphate that as a country with no official state religion, attacks on US ships were inappropriate. This did not work, and led to the war, and President Jefferson's attempt to depose the government.
These were religiously motivated attacks by a religion that saw non-Muslims as inherently inferior and deserving of slavery.
And American Whites saw Blacks as inherently inferior. Was slavery in the US also religiously motivated or perhaps rather racially and financially motivated? The Berbers were pirates and slave traders that targeted Europeans and also Subsaharan Africans if they could get their hands on them. This was their lifestyle. They weren't a unified entity but a collection of pirate cities and states. This was a piracy/slave trader conflict. Not a religious war.
Just because religions plays/played a huge role in the life of people doesn't mean everything single thing is solely or primarily motivated by that religion. Religion isn't everything.
If you think that's me defending Islam as a religion then you're a fool. Unlike you I can and will separately judge the people and their religion and will not pretend that someone becomes an entirely different person just because they've changed their religion.
I'm afraid none of this is true. First and foremost Islam is a totalitarian religion, so yes it is the primary motivation for anything done by a Muslim. Second, you are defending Islam by rejecting it's history, but that's not my primary concern. Third, the Barbary States is a misnomer by the United States because they did not understand the political construction of the Caliphate. It wasn't a random assortment of pirate coves (like the coast of South Carolina in the 1600's). It was a Caliphate. Fourth, the Barbary Caliphate did not extend it's operations to Sub-Saharan Africa because it would have been too far away and impassible, when Christians were already near, were by definition inferior, and were regularly in conflict with the Ottoman Empire. The Portuguese and Spanish were the ones getting Sub-Saharan slaves.
Religion absolutely motivated the access to Christians as slaves due to the fact that they were considered a morally inferior people by definition. Islam never opposed slavery, but any Kufar or Infadel defying Islam should be killed or enslaved. Islam even played a role in how ships were attacked. The reason US Marines are called "leather necks" was because of the conflict with the Barbary Caliphate. Unlike any conflict with any Christian state, Sailors, Marines, and civilians would constantly be beheaded both in combat and during capture as a Islamic tradition. To avoid this fate during combat, the marines began wearing thick leather straps across their necks on their uniforms. This is how the term "Leatherneck" originates.
My primary issue, again, is that your talking like a Leftist, and I'm not sure you can help it. You've now made a philosophically Liberal-Atheist statement about the separation of a person from their religion, assuming that most societies even tolerate agnosticism.
Your comments, perspectives, and assumptions are all explicitly Leftist.
Simply be honest about what you are, and I'll drop it.
Ask him if he can do the separation of religion with Jews too, even considering that Judaism is also an ethnicity. I doubt he will be able to.
You're going to pretend that Islam manages to supersede nationalistic ambitions? That was true in the past, same for Christianity but not today. Religion is a tool for population control that will be used either my religious institutions like the Vatican or by national governments like Iran.
The Islamic world always has been deeply divided just like the Christian world. You can pretend that anything any Islamic or Christian nation ever did was motivated primarily by their religious beliefs because they liked to use religious gospel as an excuse for their political and financial ambitions but it's just not that simple.
I'm not. I'm simply not seeing Islam as unified singular entity.
You had several different Barbary states. Algiers, Tunis and Tripoli were officially part of the Ottoman empire but mostly autonomous. Alawi Sultanate (Morocco) was independent.
They were not a united entity under a singular leadership. They were a collection of several states and city states that worked together at times.
And there you have the reason why the Berber pirates targeted primarily Europeans. Subsahara Africa wasn't a realistic target and North Africa belonged to the Ottoman Empire which most of them were officially part of or had friendly relations with. Going after subjects of the Ottoman Empire would have been suicidal. So what's left to target? Europeans.
They were pirates. Not utterly retarded suicidal idiots.
I don't care how I sound like. I don't care if you call me leftist, right-wing extremist, a nazi, a communist, a libtard, homophobic, Islamist, islamphobic, transphobic, anti-semitic, racist, a conspiracy theorist, a Jew or whatever else you can think of.
A lot of what I believe isn't tolerated by a majority of my own society. I don't give a fuck. Where I can speak my mind I will speak my mind.
I'm actually a member of the JIDF. Wait, no. I'm a member of a Russian troll farm. Or was it Chinese?
Perhaps I'm simply what I present myself as. A non-conforming anonymous idiot with his own beliefs who wastes his time with discussions on the internet.
It was a caliphate, and Thomas Jefferson worked to overthrow the government with a rebellion by the Caliph's brother.
In any case, I don't believe you yet. I think you're doing a lot of back-rationalization. I'm going to treat you as a troll going forward. Don't violate the rules or you'll get yeeted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moro_conflict
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American%E2%80%93Algerian_War_(1785%E2%80%931795)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Barbary_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_Expedition_(1882)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine%E2%80%93American_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I
And?
Proves you wrong. Especially because Israel, the country we know today, did not exist back then and America was attacked by Islam in those occasions.
Attacked by Islam? Are you shitting me? Those were localized geopolitical conflicts and had shit all to do with religion. By that retarded logic you can define any European/American invasion/attack of any country any time in the last 500 years as an attack by Christianity.
I forgot it was Israel that forced the barbers to capture white Americans and make them slaves. Which then caused all of Islam to hate America before Israel was a thing. Time travel!
So literally all of history where Muslims never invaded anyone didn't happen? Iran calling us the great satan and calling for "death to America" doesn't happen?
Did you toss your pager away in fear?
I know you guys can't feel shame because you're in a cult, but damn.
After the second siege of Vienna in 1683 the Ottoman empire stopped being a threat to Europe and lost all it's conquering ambitions and abilities towards Euope. Since then it was just another nation doing the usual nation stuff.
Don't pretend to know history if you obviously don't.
Yeah and when exactly did Iran go that route? Was it before or after Israel popped up? Was it before or after the US/CIA did their shenanigans in Iran and the Middle East? Exactly.
Funny how terrorism is suddenly a good thing. By the way do you know who first started committing terrorist attacks to achieve political goals in the Middle East? I bet you do.
Ah, yes, sending millions of rapefugees to the west is clearly normal nation stuff.
When religious fanatics got into power.
Hamas are legitimate military targets.
You're just mad your goat molesting friends got killed.
It's quite amazing really how dumb you guys are. But the inferiority complex makes sense, as apparently the jews as super powerful and nobody can stop them (even the superior white man). But nobody said cult ideology has to make sense.
The Ottoman Empire that hasn't existed for over a century send millions of rapefugees to the west since 2015?
"BUT TURKEY DID!"
Who destabilized Syria and killed Gadaffi? Who bombed Iraq back to the stone age? Who destabilized Afghanistan?
Hamas didn't have pagers.
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Actually, this is getting suspicious. These are almost entirely Leftist talking points. Literally, Progressive ones. That and Hamas, did have pagers. We can see them going off. This was a military operation by Israel.
Alright, if you're a Communist or a Islamist, just say so man. Don't hide as White Nationalist. You're entirely welcome to be here as a Communist or an Islamist. Even as a White Nationalist, you can be here. But, do NOT impersonate them to sew discord.
Every middle east shithole has
Sorry, I get goat rapists mixed up. It's tricky to remember when they're all exactly the same.
Islam is definitely terrible. The muslims want to conquer the world eventually and will use extreme violence to do so. Right now most are focusing on the tumor growing in the heart of the "land of peace" which is Israel.
If they succeed freeing Palestine from the river to the sea then they will become expansionist again and seek to conquer Western countries.
Right now pretty much every NGO that is sending Muslims to Western countries is founded, funded,or staffed primarily by jews.
The Jews want to "fix" the world. They have a vision for it that involves destroying european countries by forcibly blending in people from the global south.
Muslims and Jews are both enemies of the west. Muslims are just willing to do the dirty work and are currently doing it on the behest of globalist Jews while fighting Zionist jews in the middle east.
Hamas fighters will only come after us after hias imports them as refugees. Besides, muzzies are generally inbred retards thanks to centuries of following the example of their 1st cousin-fucking pedophile false prophet. It's not like they're still the intelligent and dangerous enemies our ancestors fought on crusade anymore.