The first two felt fine and just classic Deadpool dumbassery.
Then the third one feels actually malicious and part of a very odd trend where superheroes across the spectrum must lose their girlfriend and be dating someone else.
Like, it felt awful when Spiderman was doing it 20+ years ago and no one liked it there. Its continued commonplace really feels like a humiliation ritual, a way to tear down "heroes" people look up to.
And it's always either A. Some bullshit offscreen thing that happened and so they have to write this stupid ass awkward dialogue "uou KNOW what you did" "I did know. But could never admit to her that I did... THAT" so they can string along a fake mystery.
Or B. They have litterally the most abrupt breakup of all time. I think of the Fear Itself one where Kitty and Piotr break up. Like literal child sweethearts that make Emma Frost sick and she dumps him at the drop of at hat because he "sacrifices himself to save the world to much"
Where his wife is brought back from the dead, just to call his crusade stupid and selfish and him evil, that she had already sold all of his houses and possessions so she can then divorce him and give his half to gay charities (while keeping her own), that it was what she intended to do all along and she hated him before she died, and then leaves while pregnant with a child he will never see.
Of course that one doesn't even have half the "excuses" for its existence, its a clear actual humiliation ritual to tear down a character that the Right loves.
According to her soapbox rant, where its literally just pages of her attacking him while he sits silently looking sad, she was in the park that day just to tell him that when she died before getting to.
Clearly, just like when they killed Pepe in his comic, this means the Punisher was always wrong and everyone will abandon him.
Which only works through their own lack of ability to not project. They are obsessed with "canon" and the intentions of the author, to the point where it dictates their own understanding of the world and the works.
People like what Punisher stands for and that's why he is so popular. 95% of the people putting his Emblem up haven't read a single comic book other than a page someone shared on Facebook. The canon change does nothing to deter that, and that's what they'll never understand.
Plus its a comic book, so its almost certain to be double retconned in a few years anyway so they can milk the well.
People like what Punisher stands for and that's why he is so popular. 95% of the people putting his Emblem up haven't read a single comic book other than a page someone shared on Facebook.
When you are military, you can tell that there is no justice in anything in war. War is inherently unjust. The mechanisms of justice can only exist in peace, and in the worst cases, it looks like even God might have abandoned man. In such a case, where justice can only come from power, and power can only come from the barrel of a gun, then the only justice is to kill the bad guy before he makes another victim. Bringing his unrelenting terror and slaughter to an end is the closest thing to justice you can achieve. As such, this is the mentality of the Punisher, which is why so many sympathize with it.
Well don't you get it he was always a violent far-right extremist at heart and "justice" was only an excuse to live out his vigilante fantasies. He never loved her he just took the opportunity to unleash the inner nazi.
Where "The Shadow" was effectively God's wrath, "The Punisher" is effectively man's wrath.
I suppose that it's not true justice, it's compromised justice in a fundamentally unjust world.
Where Batman hoped to destroy the corruption of Gotham with Harvey Dent and Commissioner Gordon; the Punisher would just shoot the cops. If your system won't tolerate ethical men, then an unethical man is the blowback against the system that it can't control.
This seems like actual parody and this is for real? Are they actually high? Honest to God these people just hate everything about comics and should never ever be allowed to write for any publication or movie or whatnot, sounds like a bad fanfiction maybe.
It is actually for real. Its entirely designed to ruin the character and show him to be a weak pathetic man who can't stand up to his boss bitch wife who always hated him anyway.
Ironically, within a year they brought back the series with a near identical copycat character (didn't even bother to make it a chick or black) who is so similar people in universe just assume its Frank too. So they couldn't even commit to the bit, they just wanted the controversy and headlines of it.
They did the same thing to Ash in the Ash vs. Evil Dead TV series.
The Army of Darkness ending they chose to continue from (Ash coming back to present day, kicking some more deadite ass and kissing the hot chick in the store while saying "hail to the king, baby.") gets completely thrown out so that he can be a pathetic loser living in a trailer park and having sex and getting high with a cheap prostitute. For his birthday.
I gotta imagine being nearly indestructible and having rapid healing would lead to some type of lucrative career. If nothing else, he'd have to be a pretty good stuntman, drug tester, or any physically dangerous job.
He’s be the best fireman in the world. Active firing dummy for policeman, Hell, any company that works with chemicals, electricity, or any other materials would be running to Deadpool for basic material movement. He might be incompetent in some instances but with enough money, he’ll probably do it.
3 reasons why this tweet isn't exactly convinving me of anything.
First, it's spelled "hocking", not "hawking" which is to do with the actual bird.
Second, Vanessa has never been used well in the two previous films since she's meant to be a mutant shapeshifter and the first film dropped the ball hard not going that route when she was put in the power chamber. Also she spent most of the second movie dead. So her character isn't really that prominent despite her role.
Third, the trailer shows the TVA trying to grab Deadpool so any and all semblance of normality being lived is nonexistent.
The time travel thing at the very end undid that, it's in the middle of the credits though, so probably easily missed and forgotten about as most things in that sequence were done even more so for laughs.
Even if it wasn't an attempt at demoralization, it's just forced lazy drama because the writer can't come up with something that builds on the previous movie
You knew Disney was going to find a way to cuck Deadpool. The surprising thing is that Reynolds let them. But I guess they own the IP and told him it was their way or nothing.
The whole "multiverse" plot is pure cesspool chunky sewage too. No real consequences. Everything can be a do over.
Logan had multiple retarded scenes, a minority girl boss taking over for the white male protagonist, and pro-immigration messaging. It was actually woke trash.
Hugh Jackman is so cool that it was possible to overlook the fact that they were replacing Wolverine with a 10 year old Mexican girl and still enjoy the movie.
It's hardly a replacement when that was literally the only movie with X23. Hugh Jackman wanted to quit being the Wolverine so he needed a sendoff and Logan was a great way to do it.
The first two felt fine and just classic Deadpool dumbassery.
Then the third one feels actually malicious and part of a very odd trend where superheroes across the spectrum must lose their girlfriend and be dating someone else.
Like, it felt awful when Spiderman was doing it 20+ years ago and no one liked it there. Its continued commonplace really feels like a humiliation ritual, a way to tear down "heroes" people look up to.
And it's always either A. Some bullshit offscreen thing that happened and so they have to write this stupid ass awkward dialogue "uou KNOW what you did" "I did know. But could never admit to her that I did... THAT" so they can string along a fake mystery.
Or B. They have litterally the most abrupt breakup of all time. I think of the Fear Itself one where Kitty and Piotr break up. Like literal child sweethearts that make Emma Frost sick and she dumps him at the drop of at hat because he "sacrifices himself to save the world to much"
I think the recent Punisher one takes the cake.
Where his wife is brought back from the dead, just to call his crusade stupid and selfish and him evil, that she had already sold all of his houses and possessions so she can then divorce him and give his half to gay charities (while keeping her own), that it was what she intended to do all along and she hated him before she died, and then leaves while pregnant with a child he will never see.
Of course that one doesn't even have half the "excuses" for its existence, its a clear actual humiliation ritual to tear down a character that the Right loves.
If his wife was going to do that, he would never have become the Punisher when she died.
According to her soapbox rant, where its literally just pages of her attacking him while he sits silently looking sad, she was in the park that day just to tell him that when she died before getting to.
Clearly, just like when they killed Pepe in his comic, this means the Punisher was always wrong and everyone will abandon him.
That is the goal. Then they try to make it cannon to maintain the conquest of the medium.
Which only works through their own lack of ability to not project. They are obsessed with "canon" and the intentions of the author, to the point where it dictates their own understanding of the world and the works.
People like what Punisher stands for and that's why he is so popular. 95% of the people putting his Emblem up haven't read a single comic book other than a page someone shared on Facebook. The canon change does nothing to deter that, and that's what they'll never understand.
Plus its a comic book, so its almost certain to be double retconned in a few years anyway so they can milk the well.
That's basically the entire US military.
It's from that kind of cynical view I mentioned. "Man's Wrath" rather than "God's Wrath". When there can be no real justice, and there are no real heroes, all that can be done is punishment.
When you are military, you can tell that there is no justice in anything in war. War is inherently unjust. The mechanisms of justice can only exist in peace, and in the worst cases, it looks like even God might have abandoned man. In such a case, where justice can only come from power, and power can only come from the barrel of a gun, then the only justice is to kill the bad guy before he makes another victim. Bringing his unrelenting terror and slaughter to an end is the closest thing to justice you can achieve. As such, this is the mentality of the Punisher, which is why so many sympathize with it.
It's demoralization
Well don't you get it he was always a violent far-right extremist at heart and "justice" was only an excuse to live out his vigilante fantasies. He never loved her he just took the opportunity to unleash the inner nazi.
Where "The Shadow" was effectively God's wrath, "The Punisher" is effectively man's wrath.
I suppose that it's not true justice, it's compromised justice in a fundamentally unjust world.
Where Batman hoped to destroy the corruption of Gotham with Harvey Dent and Commissioner Gordon; the Punisher would just shoot the cops. If your system won't tolerate ethical men, then an unethical man is the blowback against the system that it can't control.
This seems like actual parody and this is for real? Are they actually high? Honest to God these people just hate everything about comics and should never ever be allowed to write for any publication or movie or whatnot, sounds like a bad fanfiction maybe.
It is actually for real. Its entirely designed to ruin the character and show him to be a weak pathetic man who can't stand up to his boss bitch wife who always hated him anyway.
Ironically, within a year they brought back the series with a near identical copycat character (didn't even bother to make it a chick or black) who is so similar people in universe just assume its Frank too. So they couldn't even commit to the bit, they just wanted the controversy and headlines of it.
Already done! She got shot and died in the second film!
Did she? I don't remember that movie particularly.
He already lost her in the second one when she died!
The second one was already massively woke, which is why I won't even bother with the 3rd.
I skipped it because its wokeness in production literally killed a woman. She didn't sound like a good person, but still.
Just take a look at the newest Dr Strange movie. His love interest is suddenly getting married to this:
https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Charlie_(Husband)
It's deliberate.
Luke skywalker and indiana jones treatment? Even though ryan reynolds isnt geriatric yet. Lol.
They did the same thing to Ash in the Ash vs. Evil Dead TV series.
The Army of Darkness ending they chose to continue from (Ash coming back to present day, kicking some more deadite ass and kissing the hot chick in the store while saying "hail to the king, baby.") gets completely thrown out so that he can be a pathetic loser living in a trailer park and having sex and getting high with a cheap prostitute. For his birthday.
"Subverting expectations" lawl. Even though its been done 100 times and its a predictable trope.
White Man Bad.
I gotta imagine being nearly indestructible and having rapid healing would lead to some type of lucrative career. If nothing else, he'd have to be a pretty good stuntman, drug tester, or any physically dangerous job.
Or just go back to doing what he was doing at the beginning of the first movie, some kind of vigilante social worker I believe?
He’s be the best fireman in the world. Active firing dummy for policeman, Hell, any company that works with chemicals, electricity, or any other materials would be running to Deadpool for basic material movement. He might be incompetent in some instances but with enough money, he’ll probably do it.
He'll have to apologize for having his wedding at an old plantation house.
I blame Michael Jordan for inventing this trope in real life.
Still better than LeBron.
why would deadpool, a guy who kills people for a living and is quite good at it, start working as a used car salesman?
3 reasons why this tweet isn't exactly convinving me of anything.
First, it's spelled "hocking", not "hawking" which is to do with the actual bird.
Second, Vanessa has never been used well in the two previous films since she's meant to be a mutant shapeshifter and the first film dropped the ball hard not going that route when she was put in the power chamber. Also she spent most of the second movie dead. So her character isn't really that prominent despite her role.
Third, the trailer shows the TVA trying to grab Deadpool so any and all semblance of normality being lived is nonexistent.
Both
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/hawking
hawk is just selling
hock is specifically pawning
you cannot pawn blood pressure meds so hawking is correct here
So she's a whore, got it.
She was working as a prostitute when he meet her in the first movie... So yeah.
Lmao she's literally a prostitute
Yeah I seem to have forgotten about it all. It was pathetic from the start I guess.
But Vanessa died in the second film 🤔
The time travel thing at the very end undid that, it's in the middle of the credits though, so probably easily missed and forgotten about as most things in that sequence were done even more so for laughs.
Even if it wasn't an attempt at demoralization, it's just forced lazy drama because the writer can't come up with something that builds on the previous movie
You knew Disney was going to find a way to cuck Deadpool. The surprising thing is that Reynolds let them. But I guess they own the IP and told him it was their way or nothing.
The whole "multiverse" plot is pure cesspool chunky sewage too. No real consequences. Everything can be a do over.
This is like the Rocky 5 of Deadpool.
Wow that's depressing
I mean, Logan was basically that trope, but it was also phenomenal and one of the best superhero movies.
Logan had multiple retarded scenes, a minority girl boss taking over for the white male protagonist, and pro-immigration messaging. It was actually woke trash.
How does a character 'take over' when that was literally the only movie with X23, never to return, except Hugh Jackman is back as Wolverine?
Hugh Jackman is so cool that it was possible to overlook the fact that they were replacing Wolverine with a 10 year old Mexican girl and still enjoy the movie.
It's hardly a replacement when that was literally the only movie with X23. Hugh Jackman wanted to quit being the Wolverine so he needed a sendoff and Logan was a great way to do it.