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I'm so sick of the hero is shit later on in life trope. I'm not watching Deadpool 3 in cinemas just cause of this (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 1 year ago by evilplushie 1 year ago by evilplushie +59 / -0
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– Adamrises 21 points 1 year ago +21 / -0

I think the recent Punisher one takes the cake.

Where his wife is brought back from the dead, just to call his crusade stupid and selfish and him evil, that she had already sold all of his houses and possessions so she can then divorce him and give his half to gay charities (while keeping her own), that it was what she intended to do all along and she hated him before she died, and then leaves while pregnant with a child he will never see.

Of course that one doesn't even have half the "excuses" for its existence, its a clear actual humiliation ritual to tear down a character that the Right loves.

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– Gizortnik 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

If his wife was going to do that, he would never have become the Punisher when she died.

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– Adamrises 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

According to her soapbox rant, where its literally just pages of her attacking him while he sits silently looking sad, she was in the park that day just to tell him that when she died before getting to.

Clearly, just like when they killed Pepe in his comic, this means the Punisher was always wrong and everyone will abandon him.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

That is the goal. Then they try to make it cannon to maintain the conquest of the medium.

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– Adamrises 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Which only works through their own lack of ability to not project. They are obsessed with "canon" and the intentions of the author, to the point where it dictates their own understanding of the world and the works.

People like what Punisher stands for and that's why he is so popular. 95% of the people putting his Emblem up haven't read a single comic book other than a page someone shared on Facebook. The canon change does nothing to deter that, and that's what they'll never understand.

Plus its a comic book, so its almost certain to be double retconned in a few years anyway so they can milk the well.

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– MattTheBlack 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

It's demoralization

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– Assassin47 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Well don't you get it he was always a violent far-right extremist at heart and "justice" was only an excuse to live out his vigilante fantasies. He never loved her he just took the opportunity to unleash the inner nazi.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Where "The Shadow" was effectively God's wrath, "The Punisher" is effectively man's wrath.

I suppose that it's not true justice, it's compromised justice in a fundamentally unjust world.

Where Batman hoped to destroy the corruption of Gotham with Harvey Dent and Commissioner Gordon; the Punisher would just shoot the cops. If your system won't tolerate ethical men, then an unethical man is the blowback against the system that it can't control.

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– AnotherSchwarzesMark 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

This seems like actual parody and this is for real? Are they actually high? Honest to God these people just hate everything about comics and should never ever be allowed to write for any publication or movie or whatnot, sounds like a bad fanfiction maybe.

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– Adamrises 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

It is actually for real. Its entirely designed to ruin the character and show him to be a weak pathetic man who can't stand up to his boss bitch wife who always hated him anyway.

Ironically, within a year they brought back the series with a near identical copycat character (didn't even bother to make it a chick or black) who is so similar people in universe just assume its Frank too. So they couldn't even commit to the bit, they just wanted the controversy and headlines of it.

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