From the 'women's fantasy literature' I see and the crazy way women's minds work, I wouldn't be surprised if this is them WANTING men to lash out and 'dominate' them in retaliation.
Not realising that in reality that creates serial killers because when men are pushed to lashing out, there's no fucking off switch to stop..
TERFs most certainly do. The mother of TERFs, Bindel is one of the most rabid man haters in existence. If you think any feminist doesn’t support this, you’ve already lost the plot.
The Queen TERF is JKR. Idk who that other woman is, but I'm not in the same generation of idiots you're referring to. I'm from the, " I'm not helpless" type of feminism. And, everyone can open doors for each other out of kindness.
And Rowling hates men just as much as Bindel does, being “political” to get your way with troons and maintaining the status quo of the “future is female” isn’t what any sane person would call equality.
I sure am glad that TERF has been around as a word for so long that people forgot that the RF means Radical Feminist, aka the exact people who spend decades pushing for this exact thing and worse until they got knocked off the podium by their own creation, Intersectionality, pushing them down.
Go get a degree in feminism, then we'll talk. Even doing a wiki search would have shown you there's much more material. It's not as simplistic as you're pretending.
I bet you I have more understanding of feminism than any doctorate of “gender studies”. Your entire “movement” was created by a faggy group of socialists whose stated goal was the destruction of western society to implement socialism. Now tell me pookie, why would they so vehemently support and push through the 19th amendment if their stated goal was destroying western civilization?
However. You'll notice that some of your arguments were with Brigands. In the future, don't feed trolls or you will be mistaken for one (as this lot tends to intentionally argue with itself in order to drive up engagement on their favorite topics.)
Basically, men who dare to look out for the best interests of men. It's not a term you see often anymore, but it was the common root of trp, pua, mgtow, and mra.
You're probably one of the most inferior and deluded strays we've had here. No arguments, no evidence, just genuine empty-headed NPCness. You have to look at yourself in the mirror? Fucking lawl.
The demographics of Boston, MA, as of 2020, was 44.7% White, 22% black, 19.5% Hispanic/Latino, 9.7% Asian, and 3.4% other. Let's see where the demographics and crime maps overlap:
Using this "debunking" article, we see that 62% of the crime in Boston is caused by black people (who make up 22% of the population), whereas White people commit 30% of the crime (but are 45% of the population, according to that link). This also assumes that the crime reporting is being honest, and not clumping up Hispanic/Latino crime into the White category, which is common place all over the U.S., and massively inflating the White crime stats because of it.
Changing behavior like taking better care of themselves through exercise and a better diet? Right? Or is this a very late April Fools?
Joking aside, this is so miserably stupid. Even if it goes no where, the fact that it was tried at all speaks loud and clear to the arrogance and foolishness of those in charge.
I'm out and about in the community all the time doing things. Like 3 days a week I'm out meeting people and doing things. I can say without a doubt, it's women that need their behavior changed. Men in general are way more friendly and contribute far more. In general, women are highly egotistical and especially the ones involved in the community. I imagine the well behaved women are just at home with their kids.
I do believe men do in fact need to change their behavior around women. Men and women are different. The kinds of things men do with other men to build respect/comradery and to test the men are not things men should be doing to women. Too many men make the mistake of treating women as equal to men when women are not equal to men at all. Men should be treating women as if the women cannot handle confrontation, conflict or anything too disruptive to their feelings. Men should be aware that women internalize everything and that women don't understand how to separate themselves from generalizations. This means men should in fact be "softer" around women because women can't handle men being truly men around women.
This is why it's very very important for men to get involved in male only activities that have 0 women. Men need these all boys clubs so men can be men. With women invading men's spaces and trying to make sure everything is mixed, it has made it more difficult for men to truly be men but this is very important. Men can't be tippy toeing around women's sensitivities their whole life, they need an opportunity to be men. Try to join some sort of sport, group, activity, etc... that is men only and focus on developing male only comradery without women. Then the times you do engage with women, make sure to treat the women differently because women cannot truly handle being treated the same way men treat men because they are women and they are different.
Equality is an entirely false notion and the men who keep trying to treat women as equal to men are going to keep fucking up. Women are not equal to men, the end. You don't treat a dog the same way you treat a cat because you know they're different. You expect different behaviors and you accomodate the differences. That is how you must treat women. Don't treat them as equal to men, treat women like women.
We can already see the negative consequences of absolute equality and the lack of delineated male and female spaces in action. It's not that men need to treat women softer to protect those women - it's that if forced into mixed spaces long enough, men will subconsciously alter their behavior to fit in with the needs of women, and not realizing they've done that, our entire culture changes to be more feminized or matriarchal.
For example...
women don't understand how to separate themselves from generalizations
Obviously not true for all women, but if we assume it's generally true, to avoid unnecessarily conflict men will learn not to generalize ever. To be politically correct and avoid hurting the other person's feelings. They won't intentionally do this around women only - they'll simply do it naturally with everyone. They'll be less honest and direct, something which makes us all worse off over time. Not to mention other examples of "toxic femininity" which are not conducive to a health society. That behavior needs to be kept isolated to female-only spaces.
Correct and the men who realize what's going on and try to act what's in their nature, end up vilified by the groups which makes them feel alienated and secluded leading to depression and other problems.
I understand what you are saying and don't disagree with your overall comment, but I have to take issue with this:
I do believe men do in fact need to change their behavior around women. Men and women are different. The kinds of things men do with other men to build respect/comradery and to test the men are not things men should be doing to women. Too many men make the mistake of treating women as equal to men when women are not equal to men at all. Men should be treating women as if the women cannot handle confrontation, conflict or anything too disruptive to their feelings. Men should be aware that women internalize everything and that women don't understand how to separate themselves from generalizations. This means men should in fact be "softer" around women because women can't handle men being truly men around women.
Then the times you do engage with women, make sure to treat the women differently because women cannot truly handle being treated the same way men treat men because they are women and they are different.
I think you have misdiagnosed the issue and have things the wrong way around. Men don't and have never treated women the same way they treat men. As we know, feminism isn't really about 'equality' at all. So, feminism itself does not actually advocate for men to treat women like they do other men, but rather feminism advocates for men to treat women the way women want to be treated. This is as opposed to men treating women as men themselves want to treat women, based on the men's own principles.
To give you a mundane example to illustrate my point, a woman asks a man "Does this dress make me look fat?" The dress does indeed make her look fat. The woman values her feelings more than the truth, therefore expects the man to say "No, it doesn't" regardless of reality. Men, however, tend to value truth above preserving 'feelings'. He is inclined to simply say "Yes, it does make you look fat" (and then is mystified when she gets upset - he was just being honest after all).
The feminist solution is for the man to adopt the female value and thus dishonestly tell the woman she doesn't look fat. This is, after all, what the woman's girlfriends would tend to tell her. The proper answer, however, is that male principle here was the the correct one. The principle of honesty is more important than protecting the woman's feelings (in the mundane example above, the man, if he doesn't want an argument, might have to find a way to tiptoe around her feelings while still being honest). This is what men would do among each other - tell it like it is rather than worry about each other's feelings.
Therefore, to overcome feminism, men need to treat women more like they treat men, not less so. Assassin47 has makes a similar point - the issue is feminization of society, in which men are adopting female values, instead of sticking to their own male values. Men need to stick to their own principles, treating women differently for sure, but treating women differently according to their own male values. Not treating women differently according to female values.
Oh, yes. We are in agreement. I didn't mean men should treat women how women want to be treated because women want to be treated better than they deserve without earning the proper respect to be treated that way. I do in fact mean it more in the misogynistic way. A mosquito wants you to stand around and do nothing so it can suck your blood. Equality dictates you treat a mosquito like a human which obviously is stupid. I'm saying you shouldn't treat a mosquito like a human as per "feminism" but you should treat the mosquito as a mosquito ought to be treated which is to squash it. Never treat the mosquito how the mosquito wants to be treated or you'll just be setting yourself up to be exploited like a worthless simp. Treat the mosquito how it deserves to be treated based on how it engages with you. It sucks your blood then squash it.
But what I am saying too is sometimes guys do treat women too much like ones of guys when she really isn't and that causes a lot of issues with both men and women when guys do this.
Anyone who rules over you should be able to at least hold their own against you in a boxing ring. Look at this absolute faggot. Never taken a punch in his life.
Oh look, subjugation fetish. Women truly need a new hobby.
From the 'women's fantasy literature' I see and the crazy way women's minds work, I wouldn't be surprised if this is them WANTING men to lash out and 'dominate' them in retaliation.
Not realising that in reality that creates serial killers because when men are pushed to lashing out, there's no fucking off switch to stop..
"Omg, more true crime podcasts. Yay!"
Why can't women's fetishes NOT be self destructive?
Just be like guys as our two main fetishes are life giving: boobs and butts (which usually imply birth giving hips)
GC, and TERFs don't agree with this bullshit either.
TERFs most certainly do. The mother of TERFs, Bindel is one of the most rabid man haters in existence. If you think any feminist doesn’t support this, you’ve already lost the plot.
The Queen TERF is JKR. Idk who that other woman is, but I'm not in the same generation of idiots you're referring to. I'm from the, " I'm not helpless" type of feminism. And, everyone can open doors for each other out of kindness.
Perhaps YOU lost the plot.
JKR is Bindels acolyte you pedantic retard
Not a single person on this planet agrees with everything. Thinking such probably means you're the one Redman would be telling everyone to check out.
And Rowling hates men just as much as Bindel does, being “political” to get your way with troons and maintaining the status quo of the “future is female” isn’t what any sane person would call equality.
Point to where JKR says she hates men.
Because you believe all men are rapists and murders?
I sure am glad that TERF has been around as a word for so long that people forgot that the RF means Radical Feminist, aka the exact people who spend decades pushing for this exact thing and worse until they got knocked off the podium by their own creation, Intersectionality, pushing them down.
Go get a degree in feminism, then we'll talk. Even doing a wiki search would have shown you there's much more material. It's not as simplistic as you're pretending.
AND
Not being a pickmesha has become radial.
I bet you I have more understanding of feminism than any doctorate of “gender studies”. Your entire “movement” was created by a faggy group of socialists whose stated goal was the destruction of western society to implement socialism. Now tell me pookie, why would they so vehemently support and push through the 19th amendment if their stated goal was destroying western civilization?
When you found pookie, let me know
No answer? Figures. Maybe learn to read before you type.
I don't have time to go back to 570. You should have known that with your know it all bragging.
https://www.pacificu.edu/magazine/four-waves-feminism#:~:text=The%20wave%20formally%20began%20at,movement's%20ideology%20and%20political%20strategies.
I got a degree in Psychology, which thanks to Karen Horney is basically the same thing.
Try again, homie.
I'm not the one out of touch from listening to woke whiners all day.
Full goalpost move huh? Dang, I was hoping for a little better.
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Not clear that he is given his post history.
However. You'll notice that some of your arguments were with Brigands. In the future, don't feed trolls or you will be mistaken for one (as this lot tends to intentionally argue with itself in order to drive up engagement on their favorite topics.)
Just wait until a certain rapidly growing demographic reaches critical mass. These women will wish they could go back to what they had.
Women evolved to rapidly adapt to conquerors. Sure, they'll bitch, but women always bitch, no matter how good they've got it.
The manosphere isn't doing anyone any favors.
Compared to who? Who is doing us favors?
Who owes you favors?!
You literally brought up favors out of nowhere. Then act like anyone asked for a favor. Take your meds.
Basically, men who dare to look out for the best interests of men. It's not a term you see often anymore, but it was the common root of trp, pua, mgtow, and mra.
No, male feminists are desperate simps who think if they white knight hard enough and act like a doormat to girls it'll get them laid.
Not a who, a trend / thought process.
The question really should be "why is the "manosphere"?"
This is giving me flashbacks to Avengers:Endgame, when the GOTG run into the Avengers while looking for Gamora
Why guess? Go learn.
You're probably one of the most inferior and deluded strays we've had here. No arguments, no evidence, just genuine empty-headed NPCness. You have to look at yourself in the mirror? Fucking lawl.
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I'm going to need some evidence that you are human Michalusmichalus
I always assumed she was a mentally ill women. For some reason it didn't occur to me that it was a bot.
I grew out of boob pics.
Pretty racist as the violent men are usually not White guys.
Someone’s never been to Boston
Are you suggesting White people are the cause of crime in Boston?
If you are, let's check the stats...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston
The demographics of Boston, MA, as of 2020, was 44.7% White, 22% black, 19.5% Hispanic/Latino, 9.7% Asian, and 3.4% other. Let's see where the demographics and crime maps overlap:
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ma/boston/demographics
With that link, click on the "crimes" tab to see where crime is the worst.
https://bestneighborhood.org/race-in-boston-ma/
Now check out this link, and see how the black and Hispanic distribution almost perfectly overlays the more crime prone areas from the previous link.
https://www.wbur.org/news/2021/04/23/boston-police-street-investigations-racial-disparity-data
Using this "debunking" article, we see that 62% of the crime in Boston is caused by black people (who make up 22% of the population), whereas White people commit 30% of the crime (but are 45% of the population, according to that link). This also assumes that the crime reporting is being honest, and not clumping up Hispanic/Latino crime into the White category, which is common place all over the U.S., and massively inflating the White crime stats because of it.
Do the Irish really count?
Changing behavior like taking better care of themselves through exercise and a better diet? Right? Or is this a very late April Fools?
Joking aside, this is so miserably stupid. Even if it goes no where, the fact that it was tried at all speaks loud and clear to the arrogance and foolishness of those in charge.
Personally I'm more in favor of Australian men changing their MPs' behaviors.
Cuck.
here we can see a most pristine example of cuck face
He looks half-retarded to me, like if it was possible to have 50% Down's.
I'm out and about in the community all the time doing things. Like 3 days a week I'm out meeting people and doing things. I can say without a doubt, it's women that need their behavior changed. Men in general are way more friendly and contribute far more. In general, women are highly egotistical and especially the ones involved in the community. I imagine the well behaved women are just at home with their kids.
I will say one other thing.
I do believe men do in fact need to change their behavior around women. Men and women are different. The kinds of things men do with other men to build respect/comradery and to test the men are not things men should be doing to women. Too many men make the mistake of treating women as equal to men when women are not equal to men at all. Men should be treating women as if the women cannot handle confrontation, conflict or anything too disruptive to their feelings. Men should be aware that women internalize everything and that women don't understand how to separate themselves from generalizations. This means men should in fact be "softer" around women because women can't handle men being truly men around women.
This is why it's very very important for men to get involved in male only activities that have 0 women. Men need these all boys clubs so men can be men. With women invading men's spaces and trying to make sure everything is mixed, it has made it more difficult for men to truly be men but this is very important. Men can't be tippy toeing around women's sensitivities their whole life, they need an opportunity to be men. Try to join some sort of sport, group, activity, etc... that is men only and focus on developing male only comradery without women. Then the times you do engage with women, make sure to treat the women differently because women cannot truly handle being treated the same way men treat men because they are women and they are different.
Equality is an entirely false notion and the men who keep trying to treat women as equal to men are going to keep fucking up. Women are not equal to men, the end. You don't treat a dog the same way you treat a cat because you know they're different. You expect different behaviors and you accomodate the differences. That is how you must treat women. Don't treat them as equal to men, treat women like women.
We can already see the negative consequences of absolute equality and the lack of delineated male and female spaces in action. It's not that men need to treat women softer to protect those women - it's that if forced into mixed spaces long enough, men will subconsciously alter their behavior to fit in with the needs of women, and not realizing they've done that, our entire culture changes to be more feminized or matriarchal.
For example...
Obviously not true for all women, but if we assume it's generally true, to avoid unnecessarily conflict men will learn not to generalize ever. To be politically correct and avoid hurting the other person's feelings. They won't intentionally do this around women only - they'll simply do it naturally with everyone. They'll be less honest and direct, something which makes us all worse off over time. Not to mention other examples of "toxic femininity" which are not conducive to a health society. That behavior needs to be kept isolated to female-only spaces.
Correct and the men who realize what's going on and try to act what's in their nature, end up vilified by the groups which makes them feel alienated and secluded leading to depression and other problems.
I understand what you are saying and don't disagree with your overall comment, but I have to take issue with this:
I think you have misdiagnosed the issue and have things the wrong way around. Men don't and have never treated women the same way they treat men. As we know, feminism isn't really about 'equality' at all. So, feminism itself does not actually advocate for men to treat women like they do other men, but rather feminism advocates for men to treat women the way women want to be treated. This is as opposed to men treating women as men themselves want to treat women, based on the men's own principles.
To give you a mundane example to illustrate my point, a woman asks a man "Does this dress make me look fat?" The dress does indeed make her look fat. The woman values her feelings more than the truth, therefore expects the man to say "No, it doesn't" regardless of reality. Men, however, tend to value truth above preserving 'feelings'. He is inclined to simply say "Yes, it does make you look fat" (and then is mystified when she gets upset - he was just being honest after all).
The feminist solution is for the man to adopt the female value and thus dishonestly tell the woman she doesn't look fat. This is, after all, what the woman's girlfriends would tend to tell her. The proper answer, however, is that male principle here was the the correct one. The principle of honesty is more important than protecting the woman's feelings (in the mundane example above, the man, if he doesn't want an argument, might have to find a way to tiptoe around her feelings while still being honest). This is what men would do among each other - tell it like it is rather than worry about each other's feelings.
Therefore, to overcome feminism, men need to treat women more like they treat men, not less so. Assassin47 has makes a similar point - the issue is feminization of society, in which men are adopting female values, instead of sticking to their own male values. Men need to stick to their own principles, treating women differently for sure, but treating women differently according to their own male values. Not treating women differently according to female values.
Oh, yes. We are in agreement. I didn't mean men should treat women how women want to be treated because women want to be treated better than they deserve without earning the proper respect to be treated that way. I do in fact mean it more in the misogynistic way. A mosquito wants you to stand around and do nothing so it can suck your blood. Equality dictates you treat a mosquito like a human which obviously is stupid. I'm saying you shouldn't treat a mosquito like a human as per "feminism" but you should treat the mosquito as a mosquito ought to be treated which is to squash it. Never treat the mosquito how the mosquito wants to be treated or you'll just be setting yourself up to be exploited like a worthless simp. Treat the mosquito how it deserves to be treated based on how it engages with you. It sucks your blood then squash it.
But what I am saying too is sometimes guys do treat women too much like ones of guys when she really isn't and that causes a lot of issues with both men and women when guys do this.
I'm guessing there are quite a few pictures of this poor cuck in a gimp suit floating around.
I’d say we need to hire a Parliamentary Secretary for Women’s Behavior Change but we all know it would take a committee or department at least
fake job
Not that it's much of a consolation but this is at the state level, victoria which had the longest covid lockdowns in the world I believe.
*Victoria, aka one of the wokest places on Earth…
This is a state thing, not federal…
But yeah, it’s still shit, and representative of broader trends in this country as a whole, unfortunately…
Though we’re not all complete cucks, so please don’t think we are/tar as with the same brush, lol.
My own state (which most of you probably know by now, anyway) is almost equally as fucked as Victoria, I must admit…
Is that a tranny?
it never enters their brains that it might be women's behavior that caused all of this. like voting and being allowed to speak in public.
anyway whatever. enjoy your slavery, "men".
Anyone who rules over you should be able to at least hold their own against you in a boxing ring. Look at this absolute faggot. Never taken a punch in his life.