Warhammer goes woke. Tries to rewrite history
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You have to actually stand your ground and fight Marxists. You can’t just check out and retreat into your hobbies because the lefties are coming for those, too.
why not go further? why not make exclusion explicit in your lore? why not enshrine the dangers of female nature in the stories making up the lore?
holding the line sounds good but it is in fact a losing strategy. like any good negotiation or battle, go on the offensive.
Good point. The hour is late enough that defense is probably futile. I stand corrected.
Bingo. Even if not stated in world ,there can be an official appendix that states "All these people are men/white/straight/hate orcs" etc so that decades later when you're dead some purple haired fag can't buy the IP and try to bastardize it.
Turns out a totalitarian evil ideology is totalitarian and wants to control everything. Who knew?
"A moment of laxity spawns a lifetime of heresy."
Gatekeep like a mother fucker.
The worst is having to sit and watch all the flood of smug, sanctimonious tourists do their victory laps and celebrations while anyone pointing out otherwise is shouted down or harassed.
I fucking hate these people.
As you should, as all good men should. In fact, we don't hate them enough. Good men are supposed to hate degeneracy, corruption, lies, and evil.
This feminized (globalist) push to demonize hate is meant to neuter us, so we don't speak up against it or act to stop it.
This hits the (yet another) nail on the head. Hatred, anger, and violence have become universally stigmatized, when all three are in fact proper, natural, and appropriate responses to wrongdoing in different degrees.
It is okay to hate people who wish ill upon you.
It is okay to be angry when they violate things you love.
It is okay to use violence to defend yourself and those in your care.
Whether the law allows it is another issue.
Let him have their make-believe victory lap. The company was going in a death spiral for a few years now. This is the end of the flush. Between the shitty kid’s books, the Games Workshop+ shitstorm, the ever-expanding prices of the minis, and the dumbifying of rules, this is nothing. It shows we need to make our own now table-top game. For us, by us.
It'd be simple and straightforward to clone the core setting & rules of 40k and just make your own. There's literally nothing stopping people now, easier than ever. A council of high-profile 40k guys who agreed to stop promoting 40k and supported a fan-made & fan-curated alternative could succeed.
I don't think ceding ground and abandoning a cultural outpost is the right call, even if it's lost. This fosters the mindset that it's ok to lose ground because we'll just make our own 40k with blackjack and hookers. There's decades of creation and cultural capital infused into that cultural outpost and the enemy should at least have to sacrifice something in order to take it. Make it hurt instead of handing it over for free.
Getting people to stop supporting GW is the only way to hurt them. Replacing WH40K with a better product and getting people to switch is the only way to do it. That and a lot of gate keeping.
That's exactly what abandoning official 40K would do if a significant enough chunk of the playerbase jumped off to their own system & setting.
If you have a different proposal, I'm open to hearing what alternatives you think exist. But from where I stand the reason that all this happens is that the fans don't really have any leverage because GW owns the game + setting. They can screw people over and unless fans are willing to walk away and play something else (even if that something else is the same w/ filed off serial numbers) then GW holds all the cards.
How?
That leaves them with a cultural institution that flies their flag. They don't care that you aren't there anymore, they took what was yours, which was the goal. The fact that you retreated elsewhere just means they have a new target and you've lost cultural significance.
This. Plus it's just a matter of time before they come for the thing you created. It happens all the time. This is why Niemöller's poem is so significant: they will eventually come for you, even in retreat.
The "how" is easy. If you slice off even a small-ish fraction (10 - 20%) of GamesWorkshop's profit & market share then the bean counters start asking if it's worth it.
If you make them bleed, they might backtrack. In the current environment, there is literally no other option that fans of 40K have.
As far as the principle of "ceding ground" -- You're assuming that fans of 40K have any ground to begin with. Simply put, they don't. There are guys who played the game for decades, grew up with the hobby, painted, competed, taught their sons how to play. But none of that matters.
The people with the actual power work at GamesWorkshop, and those people are either too cowardly to steward the game correctly or ideological enemies. The only real way to prevent this from happening is to have ownership of the game & IP and strictly gatekeep any role of authority from subversive elements. The process of decay and corruption is ultimately inevitable for any insitution and 40K franchise is no exception. The solution to decay is rebirth in new creation.
This is retarded. You can't vote with your wallet. They are backed by the infinite supply of fiat currency of Blackrock and Vanguard. More to the point the goal is power, not money.
Everyone's still stuck in the archaic headspace that you can create financial incentives that will stop this and alter the behavior of religious zealots.
Loudly and determinedly announcing why you're boycotting. It worked with Bud Light until people cucked and took one (1) cowboy commercial as a good enough apology.
The company has to see financial pain and know exactly why if you want any hope of enacting change. But again this is ideological driven and not financial, so it likely won't do much if it isn't deafening
And how do you suppose you do that?
Pirating minis seems to be the way most people are going.
Nobody's going to make a successful 40k knockoff, though. Space King by Flashgitz is a pretty funny series, actually a great product with a lot of potential, but that's a parody "TV" show, not an entire tabletop and lore experience. There is an insane amount of time invested into the 40k world at this point.
Yeah it's obviously true that 40K has a huge amount of lore and it's not possible to easily replace that. What I'd suggest is simply having a group of lore nerds sit down with the 40K lore and agree to an approach of either time-skipping forward (aka 45K) or freezing the timeline at a certain point (pre-Primaris marines for example) and agree to that.
Then you work on developing basically a set of interchangeable terms e.g.
Space Marine = Space Marine (Not copyrightable)
Imperium of Man = The Galactic Dominion
Chaos = Ruin
Demons = Demons
Warp = Nethereum
Eldar = Sylvani
Tyranids = Raveners
Start with the big concepts and work your way down. Stuff would feel different even if you did a perfect 1:1 copy to start with, and that's assuming no one wants to add or subtract something.
I ran this through ChatGPT just to present how this could look:
The Galactic Dominion (Imperium of Man) The Galactic Dominion is a vast, galaxy-spanning empire of humans led by a powerful, god-like figure known as the Celestial Sovereign. The Dominion is a highly militaristic and religious society, with a strong emphasis on loyalty, obedience, and the eradication of all threats to humanity.
The Eternal Forgemasters (Adeptus Mechanicus) The Eternal Forgemasters are a faction of tech-priests who worship ancient technology and machines. They are responsible for maintaining and producing the advanced weaponry and equipment used by the Galactic Dominion's military forces.
The Astral Warriors (Space Marines) The Astral Warriors are genetically engineered super-soldiers who serve as the elite fighting force of the Galactic Dominion. They are organized into chapters, each with its own unique culture, traditions, and specialties.
The Devouring Swarm (Tyranids) The Devouring Swarm is an extragalactic race of insectoid aliens that consume all organic matter in their path. They are driven by an insatiable hunger and are capable of rapidly evolving and adapting to new threats.
The Ethereal Crafters (Aeldari/Eldar) The Ethereal Crafters are an ancient, psychically-gifted race of aliens who once ruled a vast empire. They are now divided into distinct sub-factions, each with its own agenda and goals. The Crafters are known for their mastery of advanced technology, psychic abilities, and their ability to manipulate the threads of fate.
The Necro Continuum (Necrons) The Necro Continuum is an ancient race of mechanical beings who once ruled the galaxy. After a long period of dormancy, they have awakened to reclaim their lost empire. The Necro Continuum possesses advanced technology and the ability to self-repair, making them a formidable force.
The Verdant Tide (Orks) The Verdant Tide is a race of green-skinned, warlike aliens who live for the thrill of combat. They are known for their brutal tactics, ramshackle technology, and their ability to grow stronger and larger as they fight.
The Immaterial Realm (Chaos) The Immaterial Realm is a parallel dimension of raw psychic energy and chaotic entities. It is home to the Chaos Gods, powerful beings who seek to corrupt and control the mortal realm. The Immaterial Realm's influence seeps into the material world, twisting the minds and bodies of those it touches.
The Ethereal Collective (Tau) The Ethereal Collective is a young, technologically-advanced race that seeks to unite the galaxy under its banner of the "Greater Good." The Collective is known for its advanced plasma weaponry, sleek armor, and its use of diplomacy and coercion to expand its influence.
The Dread Kindred (Dark Eldar/Drukhari) The Dread Kindred are a sadistic offshoot of the Ethereal Crafters who revel in causing pain and suffering. They are masters of fast-paced, hit-and-run tactics and use advanced weaponry and technology to terrorize their enemies.
The Unyielding Vigil (Sisters of Battle/Adepta Sororitas) The Unyielding Vigil is an all-female military order dedicated to the worship of the Celestial Sovereign and the protection of the Galactic Dominion. They are known for their unwavering faith, their powerful armor, and their use of flame-based weaponry.
Not great for 1 try, but some aren't bad (I like "Dread Kindred" for Dark Eldar as it has some vampire vibes).
Yeah Dread Kindred isn't too bad of a name. I'm always amazed at how closely AI can hit the target with the right prompts. I'm not sure how kindly copyright law will look on a 1:1 ripoff though considering the Blurred Lines decision etc.
I'm not nearly invested enough in 40k to claim to be anything more than a tourist and even I'm pissed off about this. I'm so fucking tired of it all. I want these people publicly subjected to corporal punishment for their vile behavior.
Already had this video from Sargon showing the membership cancellations have already started to pour in.
It's not a financial decision as this WILL lose them money, the only unless on that is if this was required for the Amazon show everyone talked about..
Absolutely is not a financial decision. Even if it was GW would be the absolute worst one to make it given that a decent 3D printer nowadays costs less than a full army
Nothing that has happened in the last ten years has been a financial decision. This is 100% about power and influence. Money is not part of the equation. At all.
You cannot vote with your wallet.
I follow a guy that does just that. GW is attacking it's own ankle because it was stabbed by a spear.
I assume they will have less profit but GW is raking in a lot of money. They can afford it. At most they will blame Ukraine/ Russia for the reduce sales. Kind of sucks but average consumers don't care
I question their ability to weather the storm. The whole point of Warhammer is unapologetic excess. Femstodes carves out the heart of the setting. The core customers are the guys who buy all the stuff and attract normie attention, so if you lose them, you're killing the golden goose.
I wish that to be true but I doubt it. They will move slowly, will let this simmer for a while and do nothing with female custodes for a year and then push something else. They're already branching out in to games and soon movies. They're moving away from war games as their main thing.
I understand AOS is a success despite having the equivalent of female space marines.
The Stormcast in AoS are hardly important compared to space marines. Warhammer is swimming with female warriors anyway, both in fantasy and 40k. The problem with femstodes is that they're messing with a male niche that has been explicitly male forever.
As for games and movies, lol. GW is historically clumsy with game development and production. Without goodwill from the lore, they've got nothing competitive. TV and movie wise they're even worse. Outside of that you're looking at Henry Cavill's 40k show, and he is a true fan so he'll hold their feet to the fire if necessary.
It's all so tiresome
Gotta stay strong brother
judeo-commie whack-jobs going hard after him, apparently
https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/1779706784728621557
Alinsky 101, right? Target people, not ideas.
Rules for Radicals is a great way to win political and cultural victories right up until you trip a shooting war.
Pretty sure commies are Russian in origin. The only Judeo I know is Juedeo Christians.
Again stupid, shit is public knowledge
Marx - Jew Lenin -Jew
"Iron" Felix (head of the Cheka)- Jew.
And something like 90 percent of the Bolsheviks were Jewish.
No such thing as Judeo Christian.
Can't wait for them to release the big titty necrons.
I also think as its current year, eldar need to be plus size, sisters need burquors and the emperor was actually a lesbian.
So that's why he's dying...
Fat-ass, purple haired Tyranid Hive Tryant in a wheel chair.
Great Unclean One with cornrows for the black representation
They already have tranny representation with Slaanesh.
Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future
We need a genuine Inquisition at this point. It's Chaos cults all the way down.
Anime figurines surprisingly is highly resistent to woke.
Gunpla is cheaper and better anyways
Wheres the mobile suits with boobas?
It's called the Super Fumina.
the gay commies already have slaanesh, they (the one time its actually proper to use the indeterminate sex pronoun) and their minions are everything the gay commies stand for and aspire to be
Gatekeeping is no longer enough.
Heavy flamer time?
Whats that company that did that hyena game that was canceled last minute by SEGA? Cost like 100million and was in the works for half a decade. The company laid off like 80% of its staff after it got canceled. It also did some warhammer staff.
I haven't followed GW canon in WHF for years, we have our own home brew post end times. Well just stick to that and GW can just fuck right off, along with WOTC.