If it is enemy action, then who is doing this? What is the end game here? Might be an enemy, but could also be like the train derailments. If memory serves, everyone made a big hoopla about some recent train derailments, but it turned out to be a fairly common occurrence in an empire built on cut costs, DIE and broken infrastructure.
Yep. Can confirm derailments happen constantly, you just only heard about them more after east Palestine. Tbf, that one was especially bad, but over 1k happen a year. Usually just grain cars or similar though.
Wasn't that a pretty misleading stat, though? As in, most of them "derailed" in the station at low speed, and didn't even flip or anything?
Similar to "school shootings" including NDs in the parking lot next door with no injuries, the stats were trotted out to conveniently fit the narrative.
Not saying train derailments don't happen, and we don't hear about them...but I think the mainstream stats they pulled up were also bogus.
That's the fra definition of derailments. There's probably 80+ a year with cars on the ground, though I don't have exact numbers and I'm on vacation and not digging through fra reports right now.
most of them "derailed" in the station at low speed
This much is true. BUT... a disproportionately high percentage of THOSE derails will be hazmat, BECAUSE safety derailleurs are required in hazmat terminals.
Most of the "in the wild" derails occur because of flash flood damage, or from rotted ties with bolted rail.
DEI proponents. Things like this are just a symptom of the disease rather than the end goal. Things are going to get wild due to the competency crisis they are creating.
This is either deliberate or something that happens A LOT without major incident usually and we are just noticing it now.
The latter could be worse as that implies a critical failure in standards that shit is casually breaking down or people don't know how to operate equipment properly implying we are in an Atlas Shrugged environment.
If - emphasis on if - this is an attack, I'd give an uneducated guess that it's hacking, not EMPs. Everything's so connected nowadays, seems like the simpler explanation.
Yes, the CHAMP system was publicly demonstrated in 2012 and it's successor HIJENKS is probably already functional. However, they would permanently disable targeted computers, thus leaving evidence.
Also, disabling a ship as it approaches a bridge and hoping it hits would be a pretty unreliable way to destroy the bridge, especially if you're an org capable enough to get an EMP.
I personally worked that ship earlier in the week.
The difference between the ships exiting the ports in NY/NJ, as opposed to Baltimore. Is that we have tugs escorting the ships until they are completely clear of all infrastructure. (Like Bridges) In Batimore, the tugs disengage early, and let the ships go under a bridge on their own. Hence, when they lost power - They could do nothing.
As a side note: This has absolutely nothing to do with DEI.
Out there hypothesis: They're testing remote access contol of things for use later. A little here, a little there. Then suddenly, it's a distant memory, and you're in your self driving car, and it can be remote taken over, and they can end you because you had the nerve to have the bad thoughts and speak them in public or type them online.
I really don't want to be right. Please, do not make me right about this.
I'd be very interested how often these lose power. Do they operate on different power in port like some sort of battery versus fuel? I mean these boats go over huge distances regularly and I can't imagine they are often stranded in the middle of the ocean causing massive cost and delay, or something would be changed about them.
First, its massive vertical supports are positioned much closer to land than the Key Bridge's—1,000 feet away from the harbor's navigation channel—making them considerably less likely to be hit by an errant vessel. The towers also are surrounded by rock islands, which would force any ship heading toward the supports to run aground before striking the tower. Additional safety projects have further hardened protections, even adding an air gap sensor system that detects vertical clearances between the bridge and large vessels passing underneath.
Maybe this should have been a thing everywhere too. Sure, it's not going to be perfect, but it sure seems that the one in Baltimore ran into the bridge without any hinderance.
It could be the boat's wiring being corroded to shit by sea water, and none of the Pajeet crew know how to use a toilet, much less maintain electrical equipment.
The only reason why this even made the news, is because of what happened in Baltimore. Prior to that, it's a non-story. "Container Ship briefly loses power, tugboats do their job and stabilize it." isn't much of a headline.
Yeah, my first thought when I started reading into maritime/port SOP regarding Baltimore was where were the tugboats, why did they leave, and if they were supposed to leave why is it procedure to let the ship go free near a difficult bridge.
“Mr Bond, they have a saying in Chicago: 'Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action'.” Does this make it 2/3?
If it is enemy action, then who is doing this? What is the end game here? Might be an enemy, but could also be like the train derailments. If memory serves, everyone made a big hoopla about some recent train derailments, but it turned out to be a fairly common occurrence in an empire built on cut costs, DIE and broken infrastructure.
DIE adherents are also self-declared enemies of the US. They just go about destruction in a different way.
Me. I'm doing this. I am the hacker known as 4chan.
Yep. Can confirm derailments happen constantly, you just only heard about them more after east Palestine. Tbf, that one was especially bad, but over 1k happen a year. Usually just grain cars or similar though.
Wasn't that a pretty misleading stat, though? As in, most of them "derailed" in the station at low speed, and didn't even flip or anything?
Similar to "school shootings" including NDs in the parking lot next door with no injuries, the stats were trotted out to conveniently fit the narrative.
Not saying train derailments don't happen, and we don't hear about them...but I think the mainstream stats they pulled up were also bogus.
That's the fra definition of derailments. There's probably 80+ a year with cars on the ground, though I don't have exact numbers and I'm on vacation and not digging through fra reports right now.
Yes and no.
This much is true. BUT... a disproportionately high percentage of THOSE derails will be hazmat, BECAUSE safety derailleurs are required in hazmat terminals.
Most of the "in the wild" derails occur because of flash flood damage, or from rotted ties with bolted rail.
Define "east Palestine"? Is that supposed to be a joke delegitimizing the state of Israel?
Are you actually retarded?
That cretin is either a fed or larping wehraboo deliberately playing a strawman to incite wehraboo shit / forum slide. His posting history proves it.
Except he actively baits anti-Jew comments to report those users and get them banned, removing the comments.
That's forum sliding.
DEI proponents. Things like this are just a symptom of the disease rather than the end goal. Things are going to get wild due to the competency crisis they are creating.
The same enemies who have been running the show on Capitol Hill
3/3, actually.
In Oklahoma a bridge on the Arkansas River was hit by a barge about a week ago.
That one doesn't count.
Anyone who's lived along the Mississippi long enough knows barges get lose all the fuck time.
A month before Baltimore, a bunch of barges hit a bridge on the Ohio and nobody batted an eye. And that same week on the Mississippi three broke free and ran into the shallows by lock & dam 25. Crazy barge shit just happens. Across all the navigable US rivers there's probably one barge incident a week.
But I'm willing to grant you 2/2, because the NYC one fits the M.O. of the Baltimore incident.
barges are made of the boat equivalent of toilet paper.
oh it's a cohencidence, alright
This is either deliberate or something that happens A LOT without major incident usually and we are just noticing it now.
The latter could be worse as that implies a critical failure in standards that shit is casually breaking down or people don't know how to operate equipment properly implying we are in an Atlas Shrugged environment.
I am thinking the latter, but cannot rule out the former.
Are directed EMPs a thing? Maybe I've been watching too much X-Files.
I love how the top comment is a Goldfinger quote and this comment touches on the Goldeneye weapon system.
Which is real, by the way. That one is based on a known weapon system developed by us and the reds during the cold war.
It would be more likely someone on the inside is flipping a switch or something
If - emphasis on if - this is an attack, I'd give an uneducated guess that it's hacking, not EMPs. Everything's so connected nowadays, seems like the simpler explanation.
TFW the boat was made by hewlitt packard, and the reason it crashed is because they didn't pay their monthly subscription fee.
You can't use the helm when you're out of magenta ink.
Yes, the CHAMP system was publicly demonstrated in 2012 and it's successor HIJENKS is probably already functional. However, they would permanently disable targeted computers, thus leaving evidence.
Also, disabling a ship as it approaches a bridge and hoping it hits would be a pretty unreliable way to destroy the bridge, especially if you're an org capable enough to get an EMP.
I personally worked that ship earlier in the week.
The difference between the ships exiting the ports in NY/NJ, as opposed to Baltimore. Is that we have tugs escorting the ships until they are completely clear of all infrastructure. (Like Bridges) In Batimore, the tugs disengage early, and let the ships go under a bridge on their own. Hence, when they lost power - They could do nothing.
As a side note: This has absolutely nothing to do with DEI.
Good on the NYC port authority for having tugs on standby for such situations and double good on the tug captains and crews that got it sorted.
Twice this happen on an election year?
Some fuckery is afoot.
Three times, at least.
Out there hypothesis: They're testing remote access contol of things for use later. A little here, a little there. Then suddenly, it's a distant memory, and you're in your self driving car, and it can be remote taken over, and they can end you because you had the nerve to have the bad thoughts and speak them in public or type them online.
I really don't want to be right. Please, do not make me right about this.
I'd be very interested how often these lose power. Do they operate on different power in port like some sort of battery versus fuel? I mean these boats go over huge distances regularly and I can't imagine they are often stranded in the middle of the ocean causing massive cost and delay, or something would be changed about them.
Maybe this should have been a thing everywhere too. Sure, it's not going to be perfect, but it sure seems that the one in Baltimore ran into the bridge without any hinderance.
It could be the boat's wiring being corroded to shit by sea water, and none of the Pajeet crew know how to use a toilet, much less maintain electrical equipment.
More often than you think.
The only reason why this even made the news, is because of what happened in Baltimore. Prior to that, it's a non-story. "Container Ship briefly loses power, tugboats do their job and stabilize it." isn't much of a headline.
Yeah, my first thought when I started reading into maritime/port SOP regarding Baltimore was where were the tugboats, why did they leave, and if they were supposed to leave why is it procedure to let the ship go free near a difficult bridge.
Klaus Schwab warned us about imminent cyber attacks like these! We should have listened!
Anyone remember when that engine fell off a plane right over NYC right after 9/11? It's Bader-Meinhof until proven otherwise.